Looks like they've had enough of "I'd rather crash into you" Ide. The stewarts are threatening to suspend his Superlicense and Super Aguri is very displeased. Word on the street is he won't be driving at the European Grand Prix at the Nurburgring.


http://f1.racing-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/060424104821.shtml

Ide is driving the worst car in the entire field by FAR and is a first time rookie in F1. I dont expect anything more of him....if he did have a new chassis and a good experienced team behind him yet still managed to do so bad then i would agree with this argument

He's a piss poor driver, he's no concience of who is around him, or what he's doing. Hell he's run over his own crew twice, caused atleast two incidents and almost wrecked himself more than a few times. Get him AND Sato off the grid.

Ide is driving the worst car in the entire field by FAR and is a first time rookie in F1. I dont expect anything more of him....if he did have a new chassis and a good experienced team behind him yet still managed to do so bad then i would agree with this argument

Dumbest post of the year.

How many people has Scott Speed, also a first-time rookie, run into?

Case closed.

Dumbest post of the year.

How many people has Scott Speed, also a first-time rookie, run into?

Case closed.
Not really.
Speed got more experience in open wheel racing than Ide. I understand that Ide got more of a touring background than Speed. Scott has been racing open wheel since he started, and he's more talented too.
Speed drives a better car and has a better team. Super Auguri teams sucks. They were allowed to run very late. The whole team should be suspended. Why are they running a car that is not competitive in the top racing series of the world?

Midlands AKA Minardi also ran sucky cars for years, and yet none of their drivers in recent memory have behaved like Ide.

It's the DRIVER making all those moronic moves, not the CAR.

Such a dumb post i think not.

Obviously we have contradicting views about things. Ide is by no means a good driver, i never said that, but his team and his vehicle are not helping him by ANY means to be competitive. Theres only so much you can do in the seat until you catch up on the limits of the car (Ide is not so near it).

Minardi is out of the question, how many years have they been in F1?! This is SAF1's 1st year with 4 year old chassis, terribly little developmental time etc etc.

Super-Aguri should have entered F1 in 2007 and had Ide/Sato get track time throughout the year.

Dude, it was not the car that punted Albers off into multiple barrel rolls.

It was Ide's idiocy.

According to Ide's webpage, he has 16 years of open wheel racing experience. He is in over his head. *Edit: He has been racing since 1990 (Karts), but started racing Formula F3 (open-wheel) in 1994.*

http://www.yuji-ide.com/index_e.html

Not really.
Speed got more experience in open wheel racing than Ide. I understand that Ide got more of a touring background than Speed. Scott has been racing open wheel since he started, and he's more talented too.
Speed drives a better car and has a better team. Super Auguri teams sucks.



Ooooh, that totally excuses his performance in the cockpit.


:rolleyes

Ooooh, that totally excuses his performance in the cockpit.


:rolleyes
No, he sucks.
I'm saying he is not doing it on purpose. He's not at the same level as the rest of the teams/drivers. Sato is holding a little better.
From F1 official site.
Super Auguri
Japanese team's first season after being granted a late entry by the FIA. Fronted by ex-Formula One driver Aguri Suzuki, with engines supplied by Honda.
Ide:
2005 Formula Nippon, runner-up. Japanese Super GT Championship.
2004 Formula Nippon, third overall. Japanese Super GT Championship.
2003 Formula Nippon, seventh overall. Japanese Super GT Championship.
2002 French Formula 3.
2001 Japanese Formula 3, fifth overall. Japanese Super GT Championship.
2000 Japanese Formula 3, runner-up.
1999 Formula Dream, series champion.
1994 -1998 Japanese Formula 3.
Last time he was in a Formula car was a "local" series in 2002 and he didn't even win the championship. He's totally over his head.

F1 is not a fawking training series for drivers. Get up to speed safely or get the fawk out.

For example:
ROSBERG FTW X1000

Or in the case of an uncompetitive car:

Raikkonen circa Sauber 01

I want to see Ide race Gaston Mazzacane.


Yeah that's right.

Shiaza. I really have to pull the plug on this one and concur with everything being said.


...its just that i wish he would pull his shit together and do something!

I want to see Ide race Gaston Mazzacane.


Yeah that's right.
To see who's worse?

good hes a terrible driver.

Franck Montagny just signed as third driver.....does this mean the initial "phasing" out of Ide??

good hes a terrible driver.


better than you :stickoutt

Ide is driving the worst car in the entire field by FAR and is a first time rookie in F1. I dont expect anything more of him....

I do expect him not to kill anyone, please. Ok, I don't quite expect... but I wish he didn't.


Midlands AKA Minardi

STR is/was Minardi. Midland is/was Jordan.

Funny I remember another F1 driver (still in the field) that in few occasion rammed into or try to do so rather than loosing a title or a place and yet know one was asking for his head??

Ide will have the next friday to proove himself and F. montagny will be rthe reserve driver who will step in for Ide in case of bad performances.

Funny I remember another F1 driver (still in the field) that in few occasion rammed into or try to do so rather than loosing a title or a place and yet know one was asking for his head??

Still, Ide is not fighting for a title. He is fighting for finishing each lap.

I want to see Ide race Gaston Mazzacane.


Yeah that's right.
Who is that?

Still, Ide is not fighting for a title. He is fighting for finishing each lap.

better to be a d*ck than a bad driver then? :D

better to be a d*ck than a bad driver then? :D

Nop, but at least the dick ( :confused :D ) has a reason for it to happen :stickoutt

Who is that?
i think he is talking about Shumacher, senna did it also, its been done a few times in the past. but it was done by drivers that had something to loose. ide and the car dont belong in F1 they should be removed from the grid.

Not really.
Speed got more experience in open wheel racing than Ide. I understand that Ide got more of a touring background than Speed. Scott has been racing open wheel since he started, and he's more talented too.
Speed drives a better car and has a better team. Super Auguri teams sucks. They were allowed to run very late. The whole team should be suspended. Why are they running a car that is not competitive in the top racing series of the world?


Dont they keep saying that the super aguri cars were engine-less displays in an Australian airport (or some random airport). So arent they running on like 5 yr old technology.

side note: Schumi is brilliant

good hes a terrible driver.


better than you :stickoutt


Uhhhhhhh. I've seen Ide drive, so I think youre statement was a stretch. In my view, Ide is guilty until proven innocent:stickoutt

I think super Aguri just need time to find some speed. You have to remember that they've been granted an entry very late last year and that 6 months ago the project didn't even exist. Only for honda wanting to get rid of Sato without seeing him go in a toyota powered car we wouldn't have seen this team.
I think they might be able to close the gap with Toro Rosso pretty fast, mid season.They have guys who know there stuff about racing cars (well apart from the drivers that is! :)), just a matter of time for them to get sorted.

I think super Aguri just need time to find some speed. You have to remember that they've been granted an entry very late last year and that 6 months ago the project didn't even exist. Only for honda wanting to get rid of Sato without seeing him go in a toyota powered car we wouldn't have seen this team.
I think they might be able to close the gap with Toro Rosso pretty fast, mid season.They have guys who know there stuff about racing cars (well apart from the drivers that is! :)), just a matter of time for them to get sorted.

It's not so much Super Aguri's speed, as Sato runs times at least as close to the pack as last year's Minardi team did. But Ide is another 4+ seconds behind him per lap in a similar car and not paying attention to traffic so he's nothing but a liability out there.

They will have new cars by mid season. The Team was back doored by Honda to pacify the homeland since Sato was persona non grata at BAR and had not other ride for '06. Acting Swiftly Honda got the team going with back door push, bought a facility, some old cars while the team back home works on the new ones. They just annouced they hope to have them for the French GP I think....don't remember.

They will have new cars by mid season. The Team was back doored by Honda to pacify the homeland since Sato was persona non grata at BAR and had not other ride for '06. Acting Swiftly Honda got the team going with back door push, bought a facility, some old cars while the team back home works on the new ones. They just annouced they hope to have them for the French GP I think....don't remember.

Actually, that's almost a scarier thought. Ide in a fast, developed car. He's dangerous enough starting at the back of the pack.

Actually, that's almost a scarier thought. Ide in a fast, developed car. He's dangerous enough starting at the back of the pack.

:lol

Well that's official, Ide is now the 3rd driver for super aguri on FIA request. to replace him it will be, at least for this WE Frank Montagny (ex-world series by nissan/renault champion and ex Renault F1 test pilot). :buttrock

Woot.

tight

Such a dumb post i think not.

Obviously we have contradicting views about things. Ide is by no means a good driver, i never said that, but his team and his vehicle are not helping him by ANY means to be competitive. Theres only so much you can do in the seat until you catch up on the limits of the car (Ide is not so near it).

Minardi is out of the question, how many years have they been in F1?! This is SAF1's 1st year with 4 year old chassis, terribly little developmental time etc etc.

Super-Aguri should have entered F1 in 2007 and had Ide/Sato get track time throughout the year.

Whether or not he's competitive isn't the problem. It's the driver's errors in judgment which are causing massive financial loss and huge risk to phsyical safety that people are up in arms about. You could put that freak in Schumacher's seat and he'd still crash and take someone with him.

I loved Ide, so much fun so see him getting lapped in like 15 laps. hahaha....good times.

His replacement is 11 seconds off the pace this weekend.

he had a spin in his first fast lap and then red flag on his second and final attempt. overwhise he was on the same pace as sato for the free practice sessions. he is also totally new on bridgestone and didnt drive an F1 for a good while. I am pretty sure he will be able to follow sato during the race. ;)

Ah, that explains it. I missed the first session this morning, and only saw the posted time.

Here's hoping he finishes well.

Done Deal.

FIA has revoked Ide's Super License and Montagny is confirmed as the race driver for the next 2 races.

yep, he'll be in for the 2 races he has the best chance to perform:Barcelona, he has done thousands of miles on this one testing for Renault and Monaco, nobody gets much practice here but from his years racing in F renault, F3, Formule Nissan he got some experience. He needs $3M to secure the ride for the rest of the season.

Is Ide the first to get thrown out of F1 for being a bad/dangerous driver?

Is Ide the first to get thrown out of F1 for being a bad/dangerous driver?


F1 has been around for a while. Its likely that this isn't the first time.

Ide is driving the worst car in the entire field by FAR and is a first time rookie in F1. I dont expect anything more of him....if he did have a new chassis and a good experienced team behind him yet still managed to do so bad then i would agree with this argument

WOW...just wow:confused

F1 has been around for a while. Its likely that this isn't the first time.


OT but is McLaren really sponsored by Johnnie Walker, as in the alcohol?

Wow what?

I agree that Ide doesnt belong in F1 (yet maybe?)....but i just dont rule him out as quickly as others do.

OT but is McLaren really sponsored by Johnnie Walker, as in the alcohol?

Yes.

Wow what?

I agree that Ide doesnt belong in F1 (yet maybe?)....but i just dont rule him out as quickly as others do.

I was being a little sarcastic...but I'm assuming that if it were just an inferior car then he would just be at the back of the pack, or just fail to qualify. And I'm sure the FIA takes this into consideration...And I believe if he was capable of driving at this level, then he could stay out of everyone's way and finish last...So I put it back on driver's skill level that's in question, not the car or the team.

However, if he is capable of driving at this level and being safe, I would welcome him back.

Ide needs to go into GP2 and stay there for a year or two. Depending on his level of success, it would be a pretty good gauge "meter" of what his true potential is.

I know of a great driver, who has never had the chance to go to F1 only due to a poor year in F3000 when hes team was crap, his car control is awsome on cold tyres or warm, drives on slicks when other go to intermidiats and in the first 4 years in driving in the local touring car championship he won all titles! he has carisma never blames the car when he loses or has a crash (once said Quote Car was fine today driver was crap, after crashing out) well his name is Craig Lowdness. Talent wich has been over look too many times

I know of a great driver, who has never had the chance to go to F1 only due to a poor year in F3000 when hes team was crap, his car control is awsome on cold tyres or warm, drives on slicks when other go to intermidiats and in the first 4 years in driving in the local touring car championship he won all titles! he has carisma never blames the car when he loses or has a crash (once said Quote Car was fine today driver was crap, after crashing out) well his name is Craig Lowdness. Talent wich has been over look too many times

From what I've read...to become f1 Pilot you need money, sponsorship, self promotion, and business savy...But it should only be based on getting the best drivers in the world.

yes thats true you need money and lots of it just look at these drivers, the best in the world? don't think so if one can buy himself a seat while the talented one gets to sit on the side line, yes these are the best drivers of the world, (ups sorry richest drivers)

I believe the bottom feeders are pay to play. But the top teams are pulling up the best they can get (and paying them mucho dinero to stay put).

That said, the price to play and be noticed is not insignificant. A sponsor (or a large inheritance) certainly makes it easier to get noticed.

Better question, whose wheaties did Sebastian Bourdais piss in? That guy is so far and away the best driver in the Champ Car series you would have thought he would have got a look. I know he feels he has been snubbed.

Better question, whose wheaties did Sebastian Bourdais piss in? That guy is so far and away the best driver in the Champ Car series you would have thought he would have got a look. I know he feels he has been snubbed.

He was F3000 champ before he came over here to NASCAR I mean champ car. I guess he wanted to be a big fish in a small pool rather than be a pissant test driver waiting his turn for an F1 seat. I believe he's had a couple tests with F1 teams but I can't document it.

He says he should be in f1 by 07

He was F3000 champ before he came over here to NASCAR I mean champ car. I guess he wanted to be a big fish in a small pool rather than be a pissant test driver waiting his turn for an F1 seat. I believe he's had a couple tests with F1 teams but I can't document it.
He has tried with F1 teams before but never picked up a ride. He WANTS to be in F1, Champ was just a way to show how good he is. Champ is nothing like NASCAR though I suppose that was a dig at Champ.

Course as I say that we lose 3 cars on the first lap at the Milwaukee Mile...just trying to prove me wrong :)

2 Drivers fighting for the same piece of real estate on cold tires on the beginning laps of the race....it happens everywhere in any form of motorsport. Even in F1.

2 Drivers fighting for the same piece of real estate on cold tires on the beginning laps of the race....it happens everywhere in any form of motorsport. Even in F1.Yep, yep. I think that is the second time that Dominguez has taken out his teammate this season and also the second time he has taken out Junqueira...bet he wont be getting a Christmas card from either. :)

Better question, whose wheaties did Sebastian Bourdais piss in? That guy is so far and away the best driver in the Champ Car series you would have thought he would have got a look. I know he feels he has been snubbed.

because in europe he is considered as a pretty average driver. He was in the running for a spot as test driver for renault 3 years ago but F montagny got the job. He was also in discussion with Williams a couple of time but nothing happened. He tested for arrows too and was supposed to be their race driver, but they went burst before he had a chance to race.
The maion problem for him now is that (and I can understand that) he doesnt want to pay for a shitty race seat in F1 while he is very well paid to race in a competitive car in the US.

byl, he finished second in Formula Renault in 1997 after the last 3 races were a disaster or he would have won that series, he then won the French F3 championship in 1999, in 2002 he won the F3000 series. If he is considered average then some people just arent looking. He actually had a contract with Arrows that they broke when they went under.

There might be a racing reason but it has to do more with is attitude than his skill. With all the crappy F1 teams out there someone would be willing to take the chance otherwise.

byl, he finished second in Formula Renault in 1997 after the last 3 races were a disaster or he would have won that series, he then won the French F3 championship in 1999, in 2002 he won the F3000 series. If he is considered average then some people just arent looking. He actually had a contract with Arrows that they broke when they went under.

There might be a racing reason but it has to do more with is attitude than his skill. With all the crappy F1 teams out there someone would be willing to take the chance otherwise.

I have a friend racing in GP2, what I said is just the general concensus around the paddock. His personnality didn't help him either. remember how he won the F3000 title too?

As for the crappy team they are the team looking for money from their drivers, which he desnt want to do. ;)

I hear you. I also think he has improved dramatically in the last 2 seasons here. I dont bet on motorsports but you can pick him to win every race and be fairly accurate.