3 different races at different times, but thought I'd post them all up at the same time. mods i have are denso irdiums, Cosmos CAI, m50 manifold, software, UUC UDPs, fan delete

mazda 3, from a 40mph, 2nd gear and pretty much put buslengths, nothing special.

mazda 6, from a dig, pulled about 4CL by the end of 3rd...no sweat.

mazda rx8...highway run, just cruising when i see this car tailgating me, he gets over to the left lane and guns it . i downshift to 3rd gear at about 65mph, walked him about 2CL at end of 3rd before shutting it down, he does a flyby and weaves in and out of traffic and i lose sight of him

it seems the majoirty of mazda rx8 owners, atleast around here are assholes since ive encountered 2 before and they just like to drive really fast and piss people off, i try to race them but they never line up and just take off by themselves.

ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM FTL

Niiiice...what kinda hp did you get outta your m50 manifold and how much did it cost?

m50 manifold conversion cost $650 total

$100 for manifold
$350 for kit

$300 for labor, should've done it myself

Was there a noticible gain in hp?

m50 manifold conversion cost $650 total

$100 for manifold
$350 for kit

$300 for labor, should've done it myself

WOW, you got hosed. Nice runs though

nice kills, also did those m sidemarkers fit right in? Or did you have to do anything to the body to make it fit

very noticeable gains from the manifold and software, others were not so noticeable.

sidemarkers come standard on 96 up and these just bolt right on as replacements for ambers

I've never like the look of those RX8's, the RX7 TT on the otherhand is a nice looking car IMO, and performance wise take's the RX8 too. Those apex seals still problems for both though! Good kill(s). :)

That RX-8 driver obviously sucked royally at driving, but BMW's are beasts as far as highways speeds go. Their main selling point is not the straightline speed, but its intense handling characteristics. I would think a BMW enthusiast would respect this, seeing as that is its main selling point as well. Nice kills.

the problem with the rx 8 as with all mazda vehicles is they are extreme piles of shit. this lends me to spit on their cars if they are looked at as anything other than very basic transportation tool.

WOW, you got hosed. Nice runs though


+ 1...300 for installation...crrazy. Hot looking 328 though

the problem with the rx 8 as with all mazda vehicles is they are extreme piles of shit. this lends me to spit on their cars if they are looked at as anything other than very basic transportation tool.

That's a pretty ignorant post, What about the 3rd Gen RX-7? I am pretty sure that's a highly sought-after car for enthusiasts. Until you can base your claims on anything other than BMW fanboy'ism (which is fine as this IS a BMW forum). The RX-8 got great reviews on Top Gear, who I would consider an accurate source. You have a lot of posts, which could either mean you are just having a bad day, or you have made 1,716 mistakes of pressing the "Submit Reply" button.

Good Day.

rx8 is like a high end miata, handles awesome but not great on straightline speed.

respect for that but the looks are a bit too crazy for my taste

rx8 is like a high end miata, handles awesome but not great on straightline speed.

respect for that but the looks are a bit too crazy for my taste

It does look pretty outlandish, but it is enjoyable.

the problem with the rx 8 as with all mazda vehicles is they are extreme piles of shit. this lends me to spit on their cars if they are looked at as anything other than very basic transportation tool.

:rolleyes

It's just my opinion, but the Mazda3 and Mazda6 out class ANYTHING available right now in their respective markets and price range. I've had my 6 for two years now and not had a single thing wrong with it...NOTHING! Excellent steering and braking, very nice interior (for the price), good exterior styling, and more than adequate power for most people.

http://www.members.shaw.ca/d_chan328/Rx8/IMG_2628resize.jpg
http://www.members.shaw.ca/d_chan328/Rx8/IMG_2697resize.jpg

My brother drives this RX-8. they just lack torque but when they get up in the high rpm range they are pretty quick. and they outhandle my 328 big time. handles like crazy. and i think they look good... :confused he gets way more stares and thumbs up than me :(

My brother drives this RX-8. they just lack torque but when they get up in the high rpm range they are pretty quick. and they outhandle my 328 big time. handles like crazy. and i think they look good... :confused he gets way more stares and thumbs up than me :(

Yeah. I have to agree with the fast in the high rpm range comment I raced one last Thursday on the highway from a 100mph roll all the way up to 150. I pulled him pretty damn hard and I had 4 people in the car. But it wasn't the slaughter I thought it was going to be.

My brother drives this RX-8. they just lack torque but when they get up in the high rpm range they are pretty quick. and they outhandle my 328 big time. handles like crazy. and i think they look good... :confused he gets way more stares and thumbs up than me :(

doesnt look bad, cool kit but needs bigger wheels like 19 inches

RX8s aren't that slow in straight-line speed, stock for stock they should be faster than the 328.

http://www.members.shaw.ca/d_chan328/Rx8/IMG_2628resize.jpg
http://www.members.shaw.ca/d_chan328/Rx8/IMG_2697resize.jpg

My brother drives this RX-8. they just lack torque but when they get up in the high rpm range they are pretty quick. and they outhandle my 328 big time. handles like crazy. and i think they look good... :confused he gets way more stares and thumbs up than me :(

I've never seen an rx-8 look better. That ones very clean. Stock i honestly hate their looks..

I've driven my buddy's rx8 and it is fun to drive, but is no freeway monster. Stock for stock it will handily outperform an e36 m3 on a track.

RX8s aren't that slow in straight-line speed, stock for stock they should be faster than the 328.

He's got an m50 mani. From a dig I can take out my buddy's rx8 and keep a 1-2 CL until 110 or so, because they have like 140 or so TQ. Now when I install my schrick mani I should pull a tad bit more. 328's are gay from mid 3rd gear on, its like they stop working (pulling)

Now, I remember the trouble I got in last time about bashing the RX-8 so I'll keep it clean this time. But from my experience in my friends RX-8 he gets looks from kids 10 years old or below, not really my crowd to impress. Now I will admit, its what your into but, just not my cup of tea. And it certainly doesn’t seem like it belongs in the Euro scene regardless of handling. Looks to much like a toy to me, but hey, that’s one mans opinion.

O yeah and brownsound, specify that its the 6spd that would beat a 328. Auto would get murdered.

O yeah and brownsound, specify that its the 6spd that would beat a 328. Auto would get murdered.

Yes, sorry that's what I meant.

the problem with the rx 8 as with all mazda vehicles is they are extreme piles of shit. this lends me to spit on their cars if they are looked at as anything other than very basic transportation tool.

I usually refrain from posting, but this is the most ignorant statement I have ever heard. What do you mean by pile of shit? They don’t break down, the RX-7, RX-8, and Miata handle better than any BMW I’ve been in, they’re cheap to run, and extremely quick around a track. If you think they’re piles of shit just because they can’t keep up with an M3 in a straight line then I think you’ve missed then entire premise behind every mildly sporty road car Mazda has manufactured. Just because a car isn’t wearing a blue and white propeller doesn’t make it inferior, hell, put an RX-8 against an M3 on a track and it will get raped six ways to Sunday.

What impresses you more, an M3 pulling away from an RX-8 at highway speeds, or a Miata passing a Corvette in turn 10 at Sebring? I have seen the latter, and it was damn impressive.

Fun fact: Mazda is the most popular race platform in America, and the Miata is the most popular road racing car.

Fun fact: Mazda is the most popular race platform in America, and the Miata is the most popular road racing car.
I agree with all the other stuff, But just cause its popular does not make it a good car.
Fun Fact: 50% of the people you meet are below average intelligence.:D

Heres what Ive noticed...

The manual RX-8's are for people who actually know a little about cars, and want to make them fast.

The auto RX-8's are for two people: Dumb ricers, and the rich girls that think they are fast, because they have some racey looks.

the problem with the rx 8 as with all mazda vehicles is they are extreme piles of shit. this lends me to spit on their cars if they are looked at as anything other than very basic transportation tool.

Wow, your posts get dumber and dumber.

Mazdas, while not my cup of tea, are excellent vehicles that are incredibly low-maintenance. Not to mention that people who buy an RX8 are not buying it for straightline speed, they buy it to listen to the rotary climb to 8500 rpms, to go around a track with incredible handling prowess, and have a car civilized enough to drive every day.

Don't be jealous that an RX8 will beat your e36 m3 around a track and gets more glances from people than your car.

I used to have a 328is, and I had a friend with an RX8 with Greddy exhaust-I beat him every time we raced, but he wasn't a very good driver. Due to the lack of tq, the RX8 isn't very forgiving to bad drivers-similar to the s2000-it takes a good driver who knows what they are doing to drive those cars to full potential.

3 different races at different times, but thought I'd post them all up at the same time. mods i have are denso irdiums, Cosmos CAI, m50 manifold, software, UUC UDPs, fan delete

mazda 3, from a 40mph, 2nd gear and pretty much put buslengths, nothing special.

mazda 6, from a dig, pulled about 4CL by the end of 3rd...no sweat.

mazda rx8...highway run, just cruising when i see this car tailgating me, he gets over to the left lane and guns it . i downshift to 3rd gear at about 65mph, walked him about 2CL at end of 3rd before shutting it down, he does a flyby and weaves in and out of traffic and i lose sight of him

it seems the majoirty of mazda rx8 owners, atleast around here are assholes since ive encountered 2 before and they just like to drive really fast and piss people off, i try to race them but they never line up and just take off by themselves.

ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM FTL

Those 3's and 6's you should have blown away, just wait till you line up against the mazdaspeed version though :redspot

With your mods the rx8 race sounds about right. My brother (captain) and I had a little go a few months back, nothing legit or anything but it was pretty even and he's got cams as well. But his car is faster then mine for sure now that he's got a diff and stuff.

Nice kills :evil2

I've never like the look of those RX8's, the RX7 TT on the otherhand is a nice looking car IMO, and performance wise take's the RX8 too. Those apex seals still problems for both though! Good kill(s). :)

Apex seals are not a problem on newer non-boosted rotaries.

That RX-8 driver obviously sucked royally at driving, but BMW's are beasts as far as highways speeds go. Their main selling point is not the straightline speed, but its intense handling characteristics. I would think a BMW enthusiast would respect this, seeing as that is its main selling point as well. Nice kills.

Nah, that race sounds about right. He's pretty modded.

the problem with the rx 8 as with all mazda vehicles is they are extreme piles of shit. this lends me to spit on their cars if they are looked at as anything other than very basic transportation tool.

:rolleyes

:rofl

:rolleyes

It's just my opinion, but the Mazda3 and Mazda6 out class ANYTHING available right now in their respective markets and price range. I've had my 6 for two years now and not had a single thing wrong with it...NOTHING! Excellent steering and braking, very nice interior (for the price), good exterior styling, and more than adequate power for most people.

Agreed, we also have a mazda3 and I just cannot believe how much car you get for the money. The thing handles like it's on rails and on top of that has leather/moonroof and all kinds of fun stuff. Best car purchase i've ever made.

http://www.members.shaw.ca/d_chan328/Rx8/IMG_2628resize.jpg
http://www.members.shaw.ca/d_chan328/Rx8/IMG_2697resize.jpg

My brother drives this RX-8. they just lack torque but when they get up in the high rpm range they are pretty quick. and they outhandle my 328 big time. handles like crazy. and i think they look good... :confused he gets way more stares and thumbs up than me :(

:drool:

The 8 gets me more looks then any other car i've ever owned. Granted some of the looks are probably like "WTF IS THAT A MAZDA AZTEC?" but most of them are guys/gals drooling, and mine is stock looking.

RX8s aren't that slow in straight-line speed, stock for stock they should be faster than the 328.

Stock for stock they are faster, but in it's class it's the slowest, however i'd never call the car slow. That's just my opinion though.

the problem with the rx 8 as with all mazda vehicles is they are extreme piles of shit. this lends me to spit on their cars if they are looked at as anything other than very basic transportation tool.

Go drive the following:
Mazda 6 V6
RX8
Mazdaspeed Miata
Mazdaspeed Protoge
Mazda 3
Mazdaspeed 5

Mazda RX8

and if you don't think that those cars aren't very good at their RESPECTIVE tasks/intentions, then you may be the most obnoxious elitist who happens to drive a car worth no more than 20k.

:rolleyes

:rofl
Actually I can't believe I just wasted a post on that hnoppenburger douche.

I agree with all the other stuff, But just cause its popular does not make it a good car.
Fun Fact: 50% of the people you meet are below average intelligence.:D
Which 50% are you on? :confused

;)

doesnt look bad, cool kit but needs bigger wheels like 19 inches
NO, that'll kill it.

It just needs to run 13's if it looks that good:stickoutt

It just needs to run 13's if it looks that good:stickoutt

agreed.

agreed.

do you have any pics of like rx8's with really good looking aftermarket wheels? cause i personally think you need 19s or bigger and then the rx8 will look like sex.

I didnt blow my buddies RX8 away on the highway in my E46...i mean i walked...but yeah, if the RPM's are up there, they will run pretty well. His is identicle to the blue one pictured.....

do you have any pics of like rx8's with really good looking aftermarket wheels? cause i personally think you need 19s or bigger and then the rx8 will look like sex.

browse this http://www.rx8club.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6

RX-8's look best with stock wheels. AND no body kit. My friend more or less RUINED his with the kit. If you lose the kit and just lower it, It will look MUCH better. and to cleonet, how old were the guys/gals? Maybe 12? The RX-8 is a little kids dream car, until they realize "Hey, this car only sounds fast!"

AND before you start flaming me saying "BLABLA you dont know that!" Im talking about the automatics. !!! ^^^AUTOMATICS ONLY^^^
AND I also know about the little kid stares because I ride in his RX-8 all the time. Ive never seen anyone over 14 give him a "drooling stare" Well, i guess some ricers, but their opinion shouldnt really count.

RX-8's look best with stock wheels. AND no body kit. My friend more or less RUINED his with the kit. If you lose the kit and just lower it, It will look MUCH better. and to cleonet, how old were the guys/gals? Maybe 12? The RX-8 is a little kids dream car, until they realize "Hey, this car only sounds fast!"

that sucks Cleonet. To me the RX8 sounds like a weedwacker stuck inside a hood, and reguardless of 8000rpms, it obviously doesn't help the straitline speed (against the cars in its class that is).

RX-8's look best with stock wheels. AND no body kit. My friend more or less RUINED his with the kit. If you lose the kit and just lower it, It will look MUCH better. and to cleonet, how old were the guys/gals? Maybe 12? The RX-8 is a little kids dream car, until they realize "Hey, this car only sounds fast!"

Right, the guy with the civic would know about cars that turn heads. I'm sure you've got lots of stickers and "VTECH ROCKS YO" decals on your car! COOL!

Yep, along with my invader body kit, hood scoop, and double stack wing. Cant forget the wing.

Obviously because I drive a civic i dont know anything about cars? I know enough to know that i can beat my friends auto rx-8 in a straight line down my street, even with his CAI.

And dude, your one step above many RX-8 owners. I see no kit. +1

Right, the guy with the civic would know about cars that turn heads. I'm sure you've got lots of stickers and "VTECH ROCKS YO" decals on your car! COOL!

actually, he wasnt given a nicer car like some of us here, maybe his parents couldn't afford it, or maybe they just thought he didnt deserve it. NONE the less he'll be getting a BMW soon that I'd take FAR before any RX8 I've ever seen. So yes, he does know about cars, and he drive a civic because he has no choice (its entirely stock and he dosnt talk about "VTECH" or anything like that), anything else you care to be a dick about?

And for the record, it's true that his stock civic beats a very lightly modded auto RX8.... kinda sucks huh?

Yep, along with my invader body kit, hood scoop, and double stack wing. Cant forget the wing.

Obviously because I drive a civic i dont know anything about cars? I know enough to know that i can beat my friends auto rx-8 in a straight line down my street, even with his CAI.

And dude, your one step above many RX-8 owners. I see no kit. +1

:rofl

Yeah the auto rx8's do about 17s in the quarter mile, and the best part is bragging about dragging one down your street! You my friend are teh winnar!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111oneoneone

You know nothing about cars because you are a dolt, it has nothing to do with the car you drive ;)

actually, he wasnt given a nicer car like some of us here, maybe his parents couldn't afford it, or maybe they just thought he didnt deserve it. NONE the less he'll be getting a BMW soon that I'd take FAR before any RX8 I've ever seen. So yes, he does know about cars, and he drive a civic because he has no choice (its entirely stock and he dosnt talk about "VTECH" or anything like that), anything else you care to be a dick about?

Ahhh how cute Sifl has a boyfriend :icon23

The point I am trying to get across to the people is, that the only good RX-8 is the MANUAL one. Automatic ones are overpriced for the power. Please read my posts thouroughly. Im sick of people acting like all the RX-8's are amazing.

The point I am trying to get across to the people is, that the only good RX-8 is the MANUAL one. Automatic ones are overpriced for the power. Please read my posts thouroughly. Im sick of people acting like all the RX-8's are amazing.

Before your post this thread was filled with nothing but praise for the auto rx8 so I'm glad you did us a favor and cleared that up with us... since that's the point you were trying to make.


And if you really think the rx8 auto is over priced, you have cemented your place on the "wall of people who know nothing about cars but like to pretend they do."

You sir, are my hero and inspiration in life.

actually, he wasnt given a nicer car like some of us here, maybe his parents couldn't afford it, or maybe they just thought he didnt deserve it. NONE the less he'll be getting a BMW soon that I'd take FAR before any RX8 I've ever seen. So yes, he does know about cars, and he drive a civic because he has no choice (its entirely stock and he dosnt talk about "VTECH" or anything like that), anything else you care to be a dick about?

And for the record, it's true that his stock civic beats a very lightly modded auto RX8.... kinda sucks huh?

Haha, the guy with the 325ci is calling RX8s slow.:lol

I would take an RX8 so fast over your 325ci I wouldn't even have to think twice about it. I think a 325ci is quite a chick car, but if you like it, and you think it's fast, then that's cute. If you sink enough $$ into your car and can somehow get it into the 14s, then maybe you can start calling other cars slow.

Haha, the guy with the 325ci is calling RX8s slow.:lol

I would take an RX8 so fast over your 325ci I wouldn't even have to think twice about it. I think a 325ci is quite a chick car, but if you like it, and you think it's fast, then that's cute. If you sink enough $$ into your car and can somehow get it into the 14s, then maybe you can start calling other cars slow.

If you were able to read, which isnt the case. You'd realize that me and Sifl have tried countless times to say that it's the Automatic only, that we're displeased with. So yes, me saying my car is way faster then an Automatic would be entirely true (its just a fact I've observed). NOW for the Manual, I'll admit its faster then my car. I ADMIT it, I've never denied the 6spd being faster then my car all around(thats around the track and all). All I've said is that the looks of it reach out to the younger crowd (thats my expirence with the car). And if you into the looks of the RX8, hey, there's nothing I can do there it's your taste. I respect it, but in my opinion it really bothers me. And if you are bothered by my opnion of the looks well then theres nothing I can do for you cause it really wont change. I'll say this, if the 6spd RX8 is your type of car, well then, thats nice, its what your into. BUT the auto, is just one of the worst cars for the price that you could get, its got very low preformance for the look it gives off (racing) and it seems pretty cheap in terms of quality, and you sure dont get the heritage or luxury you get from a BMW, what you get is a car born for the track, that dosn't belong on the track. (mind you that was the auto)

As for my car being a girls car, I have to disagree as I've seen plenty of business MEN driving my car, and yes I've seen plenty of women in my car too. On the other hand, The majority of RX8 drivers (in my area, and auto) are girls. Of the two people at my school that have RX8s... their both girls. Of the 3 kids in my area that have my car... their all guys. And I forgot to say, as for my car being fast, thats the last thing I think, I KNOW MY CAR ISNT FAST! I dont pretend to have a fast car, because well.... I don't. But I'm fine with that because at the end of the day I picked this car out over many that would have been much faster. So you have to ask youself, if I had really thought it was "cute" to have a fast then I woudl have gotten a car that were much faster. And also, as for saying I cant call cars slow, well I think I have the full right as everyone who know ANYTHIGN about cars does. Take today for example, I raced a 2.0t audi, and it was pretty tight but he had the upper hand. But I believe I have the right to say "hey compaired to other cars, this really isn't impressive." I dont undersand how you can be ignorant enough as to say I cant call other cars slow just because mine isnt anything to brag about.

If you were able to read, which isnt the case. You'd realize that me and Sifl have tried countless times to say that it's the Automatic only

It's very hard to keep up with all the edits :rolleyes :rofl


, that we're displeased with. So yes, me saying my car is way faster then an Automatic would be entirely true (its just a fact I've observed).

I dont know why you and your LP felt you needed to enlighten us about auto rx8's where no one but your LP brought it up. Go ahead and re-read the thread, there's no mention of the auto rx8, i think most like to pretend it doesn't exist.


NOW for the Manual, I'll admit its faster then my car. I ADMIT it,


good because i wasn't sure until you admitted it.


I've never denied the 6spd being faster then my car all around(thats around the track and all). All I've said is that the looks of it reach out to the younger crowd (thats my expirence with the car). And if you into the looks of the RX8, hey, there's nothing I can do there it's your taste. I respect it, but in my opinion it really bothers me.


I have no problem with your opinion.

And if you are bothered by my opnion of the looks well then theres nothing I can do for you cause it really wont change.

see above.

I'll say this, if the 6spd RX8 is your type of car, well then, thats nice, its what your into.

Thanks for the approval. My life hopefully can get back to normal now.

BUT the auto, is just one of the worst cars for the price that you could get, its got very low preformance for the look it gives off (racing) and it seems pretty cheap in terms of quality, and you sure dont get the heritage or luxury you get from a BMW, what you get is a car born for the track, that dosn't belong on the track. (mind you that was the auto)

seems you and your LP are really not informed about the auto rx8. There is a base model auto, that doesn't have a sport package, and comes with 16" wheels that would still eat your 325ci (with all it's heritage and luxury) around a track. You still get the legendary rotary heritage, and you still have a car that is superbly well balanced. Or you pay 1000 bucks more and get the exact same suspension the 6spd has and the same wheels.

You say low performance, i assume your definition of performance is solely based on 0-60 times, nice, like i've said earlier, you and your LP are just bursting with automotive knowledge and I only hope i can learn more from you.

As for my car being a girls car, I have to disagree as I've seen plenty of business MEN driving my car, and yes I've seen plenty of women in my car too. On the other hand, The majority of RX8 drivers (in my area, and auto) are girls. Of the two people at my school that have RX8s... their both girls. Of the 3 kids in my area that have my car... their all guys.

There you have it then. It's obvious that your study of 5 drivers has proven it to be a fact that rx8's are for girls (oh.. auto rx8's) and 325ci's are for men.

Nice.

Alright cleoent, First off I wasnt saying you needed my approval for an RX8, that was just stupid to say that. As for the an RX8 beating my car on a track, well someone of my age dosn't make it out to the track to often as you think... And nor do the girls who drive auto RX8's. Who would buy an auto rx8 for racing, thats just retarded. An as for the rotary heritage, it dosnt really mean much under the name of Mazda. And dont come back and tell me, "thats wrong, just because its a mazda dosnt mean..." because Im aware of it being a new way to get more RPM's out of such a small engine, I'll admit its pretty neat. But a lot of people (including me) cant get past the Mazda symbol, end of story.

So can we just leave it at I don't like auto RX8's and the looks of the RX8 in general? And that I respect the 6spds preformance as Im sure its far great then mine.
And that you dislike my car and are too pleased with your 6spd to even hear my argument against the auto?

If you were able to read, which isnt the case. You'd realize that me and Sifl have tried countless times to say that it's the Automatic only, that we're displeased with. So yes, me saying my car is way faster then an Automatic would be entirely true (its just a fact I've observed). NOW for the Manual, I'll admit its faster then my car. I ADMIT it, I've never denied the 6spd being faster then my car all around(thats around the track and all). All I've said is that the looks of it reach out to the younger crowd (thats my expirence with the car). And if you into the looks of the RX8, hey, there's nothing I can do there it's your taste. I respect it, but in my opinion it really bothers me. And if you are bothered by my opnion of the looks well then theres nothing I can do for you cause it really wont change. I'll say this, if the 6spd RX8 is your type of car, well then, thats nice, its what your into. BUT the auto, is just one of the worst cars for the price that you could get, its got very low preformance for the look it gives off (racing) and it seems pretty cheap in terms of quality, and you sure dont get the heritage or luxury you get from a BMW, what you get is a car born for the track, that dosn't belong on the track. (mind you that was the auto)

As for my car being a girls car, I have to disagree as I've seen plenty of business MEN driving my car, and yes I've seen plenty of women in my car too. On the other hand, The majority of RX8 drivers (in my area, and auto) are girls. Of the two people at my school that have RX8s... their both girls. Of the 3 kids in my area that have my car... their all guys. And I forgot to say, as for my car being fast, thats the last thing I think, I KNOW MY CAR ISNT FAST! I dont pretend to have a fast car, because well.... I don't. But I'm fine with that because at the end of the day I picked this car out over many that would have been much faster. So you have to ask youself, if I had really thought it was "cute" to have a fast then I woudl have gotten a car that were much faster. And also, as for saying I cant call cars slow, well I think I have the full right as everyone who know ANYTHIGN about cars does. Take today for example, I raced a 2.0t audi, and it was pretty tight but he had the upper hand. But I believe I have the right to say "hey compaired to other cars, this really isn't impressive." I dont undersand how you can be ignorant enough as to say I cant call other cars slow just because mine isnt anything to brag about.

First off, I wouldn't say I am ignorant, considering I can only imagine what you consider "fast" when driving a 325ci.:rolleyes

I love how you say that the RX8 is more of a girls car because 2 girls at your school drive one...all your talk about being ignorant when you're the one saying that an RX8 is a girl's car based on 3 people.

Frankly, you can have your opinion, that's fine-but when you are driving a 325ci it seems as if you hardly have room to call a car slow. An automatic RX8 will still murder your 325ci around a track, too.

I'll still stand by my previous statement that a 325i/325ci is much more of a girl's car than the RX8 is.

An as for the rotary heritage, it dosnt really mean much under the name of Mazda. And dont come back and tell me, "thats wrong, just because its a mazda dosnt mean..." because Im aware of it being a new way to get more RPM's out of such a small engine

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA


I'll admit its pretty neat. But a lot of people (including me) cant get past the Mazda symbol, end of story.

Your wannabe elitist attitude is growing old. But you are probably in high school and dont know any better. Cute. I hope you thank your folks daily for allowing you to drive the cheapest car bmw makes that makes you feel good about yourself.


So can we just leave it at I don't like auto RX8's and the looks of the RX8 in general? And that I respect the 6spds preformance as Im sure its far great then mine.
And that you dislike my car and are too pleased with your 6spd to even hear my argument against the auto?

I dont dislike your car at all. I dislike you, your LP, your ignorance, your wannabe elitest attitude, your lack of car knowledge, and a few other things that i will just leave alone.

Like i've said, no one ever spoke about the auto, no one cares that your car is faster then the auto, honestly, no one does.

Alright cleoent, First off I wasnt saying you needed my approval for an RX8, that was just stupid to say that. As for the an RX8 beating my car on a track, well someone of my age dosn't make it out to the track to often as you think... And nor do the girls who drive auto RX8's. Who would buy an auto rx8 for racing, thats just retarded. An as for the rotary heritage, it dosnt really mean much under the name of Mazda. And dont come back and tell me, "thats wrong, just because its a mazda dosnt mean..." because Im aware of it being a new way to get more RPM's out of such a small engine, I'll admit its pretty neat. But a lot of people (including me) cant get past the Mazda symbol, end of story.

So can we just leave it at I don't like auto RX8's and the looks of the RX8 in general? And that I respect the 6spds preformance as Im sure its far great then mine.
And that you dislike my car and are too pleased with your 6spd to even hear my argument against the auto?


So, you are now an elitest.:rolleyes I would try to stop while I was ahead if I were you.

The rotary engine certainly isn't new, either, which furthers the fact that you prove to know nothing of which you are speaking.

The RX7, for starters, a 1990s car, had the rotary engine, so it's been around for quite a while.

You saying that the rotary engine doesn't mean much because it's a Mazda is also completely ignorant.

alright, I'm done trying to state my position on the cars. Cause I'm just a stupid High school Jr. You win. And as for thinking the things I do are cute, I think some people call that gay... I dont know.

"Your wannabe elitist attitude is growing old. But you are probably in high school and dont know any better. Cute. I hope you thank your folks daily for allowing you to drive the cheapest car bmw makes that makes you feel good about yourself."
and as for that quote, theres a car called the 323, and 318. And I dont know why you would get mad at me enjoying my car because its what my parents got me... now THATs ignorant. And I do thank my parents... isnt that kinda normal to do? not every kid has my car, Or a car period.

alright, I'm done trying to state my position on the cars. Cause I'm just a stupid High school Jr. You win. And as for thinking the things I do are cute, I think some people call that gay... I dont know.

Do me a favor, save this thread (file save as) and in a couple years when your balls have dropped and you dont squeak when you talk open it up and laugh at what you used to write when you were a child.

I mean that in a fun way, i'm serious. I look back at some of the shit i wrote when i was young and naive and I wonder how i ever made it.

alright, I'm done trying to state my position on the cars. Cause I'm just a stupid High school Jr. You win. And as for thinking the things I do are cute, I think some people call that gay... I dont know.

I understand you don't find the RX8 appealing, that's fine. But saying that they are slow and so on and so forth is another thing.

The RX8 is a phenominal car at what it was built to do-be daily driveable with a rotary engine that screams to 8500 rpm, good gas mileage, a track monster with incredible steering feel and suspension, and be able to carry 4 passengers.

Like I said, it's not my cup of tea, but I can give credit where it's due.

The auto RX8 is an embarassment, and I don't think many will disagree with that. The 6 speed is pure driving enjoyment.

I understand you don't find the RX8 appealing, that's fine. But saying that they are slow and so on and so forth is another thing.

The RX8 is a phenominal car at what it was built to do-be daily driveable with a rotary engine that screams to 8500 rpm, good gas mileage, a track monster with incredible steering feel and suspension, and be able to carry 4 passengers.

Like I said, it's not my cup of tea, but I can give credit where it's due.

The auto RX8 is an embarassment, and I don't think many will disagree with that. The 6 speed is pure driving enjoyment.

9400 rpms is when the limiter kicks in :redspot

The gas mileage is good if you're comparing it to a army tank, 16mpg out of a 1.3L is nothing really to brag about :rofl

The 2006 auto has 20 more horses or so, and a 6spd auto tranny, hopefully it'll be a bit better.

I understand you don't find the RX8 appealing, that's fine. But saying that they are slow and so on and so forth is another thing.

The RX8 is a phenominal car at what it was built to do-be daily driveable with a rotary engine that screams to 8500 rpm, good gas mileage, a track monster with incredible steering feel and suspension, and be able to carry 4 passengers.

Like I said, it's not my cup of tea, but I can give credit where it's due.

The auto RX8 is an embarassment, and I don't think many will disagree with that. The 6 speed is pure driving enjoyment.

WOW that last line is what I've been trying to say ALL this time.

Do me a favor, save this thread (file save as) and in a couple years when your balls have dropped and you dont squeak when you talk open it up and laugh at what you used to write when you were a child.

I mean that in a fun way, i'm serious. I look back at some of the shit i wrote when i was young and naive and I wonder how i ever made it.

yeah.... I just saved it....

9400 rpms is when the limiter kicks in :redspot

The gas mileage is good if you're comparing it to a army tank, 16mpg out of a 1.3L is nothing really to brag about :rofl

The 2006 auto has 20 more horses or so, and a 6spd auto tranny, hopefully it'll be a bit better.

Ahh, it's been a while since I've driven an RX8. I thought they had better gas mileage than 16 mpg-hell that's what my 540i gets when I'm driving aggressively.

Next topic: displacement.





r26b ftmfw.

2.6 liters of pure sex.

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

at this thread. I like how you (Chester) claimed there are lesser cars than your 325 by mentioning the 323. HA! The 325 is the 323 you silly monkey. They simply had it badged the 323 for a while to separate it better from the 328 and also to say "hey, this thing is slower than the old 325". When the 330 came out, they were safe naming it 325 (for which the displacement properly indicates)

And as much as I HATE auto RX8s (it just seems retarded to lose HP on top of the driveline losses already caused by autos) I still find it hard to believe that a piggie E46 325 could beat one at anything. Maybe 0-30.

What's really funny is they're arguing about a Mazda on a Bimmer forum.

Fucking dolts..

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

at this thread. I like how you (Chester) claimed there are lesser cars than your 325 by mentioning the 323. HA! The 325 is the 323 you silly monkey. They simply had it badged the 323 for a while to separate it better from the 328 and also to say "hey, this thing is slower than the old 325". When the 330 came out, they were safe naming it 325 (for which the displacement properly indicates)

And as much as I HATE auto RX8s (it just seems retarded to lose HP on top of the driveline losses already caused by autos) I still find it hard to believe that a piggie E46 325 could beat one at anything. Maybe 0-30.
my e36 325 did it, but then again, my car isnt a little piggie :oinkoink (needs to be a smilie)

Edit, PS, Chester what the hell is this:
I too had this choice, it was down between a 325Ci, 330Ci, G35, and a 350z....
you got pwned when you chose cars

Ok... I don't consider myself a stupid person. But I just read this thread and I cannot for the life of me figure out where this argument came from. Just, "all of a sudden" people started posting angrily about the automatic transmission RX8. :eyecrazy WHAT?!?!? WHERE!??!? WHY!?!? I'm confused...

But I do think the RX8 is kinda dumb looking. When I look at it, it just doesn't seem to have enough hood for some reason. It's like the entire car is taken up by the passenger compartment and then a super long rear windshield. That's just an opinion though and I do like what the fellow with the blue RX8 has done with his. Oh... And that rev limit is darn awsome.

By the way, I believe the first rotary engine was invented in 1924 and I think (although this second part is just me trying to remember off the top of my head) the first automobile usage of it was in a post WWII Euro VW beatle.

Leo wins.

Ok... I don't consider myself a stupid person. But I just read this thread and I cannot for the life of me figure out where this argument came from. Just, "all of a sudden" people started posting angrily about the automatic transmission RX8. :eyecrazy WHAT?!?!? WHERE!??!? WHY!?!? I'm confused...

Dude, we all are. :eyecrazy

And as much as I HATE auto RX8s (it just seems retarded to lose HP on top of the driveline losses already caused by autos) I still find it hard to believe that a piggie E46 325 could beat one at anything. Maybe 0-30.

Well, it does. The kid that drives the auto RX-8 thought he was hot shit, and wanted to film the kill-to be from his car, so we did. Well in the end at about 110 mph the 325ci was ahead by at least 4 car lengths. If you want the video, I can post it on streetfire or something.

And once you see his RX-8, I think you guys can see where some of our dislike for the car comes from. Its got a terrible kit, and an intake that makes it sound like a ricer. I guess some of our dislike comes from his bad display of RX-8 owners and cars. Sorry for flaming, but hes so cocky, it just wears thin on us, and we dont want to hear any more about RX-8's being fast.

Edit, PS, Chester what the hell is this:

you got pwned when you chose cars

I don't understand, I choose the car I liked, and between the 330 and 325, I got the slower, cheaper one as I'm not a big time speed guy. I see no point as to why you'd question my choice. As for everyone else, sorry I got so excited over the whole thing, but further trying to prove me wrong isn't going to help anything. I know a lot of you would be happy to see gone so, I think I'll find another site. And as for the last post, that was not me, but someone signed on as me. So dont think I'm saying two differnet things at once. I thought this was a bmw forum, not a place where people with mazda's would flame your ideas. See ya.

This is hilarious. I have owned many cars in the 3 years I have been driving. I had an e39 540i, 360rwhp s/c m3, lexus sc400 but, I must say the most comfortable mext to my 540i is by far the rx8. obviously most if you havent driven one or sat in one. The damn thing has the tightest chasis and it handles better than my e36 M which I dumped HUGE money in all around it. Dont dog a car you dont know anything about please. The car has been out for a short time so aftermarket is real small for it but I know someone around town now putting down 320rwhp and he is laying down drag times in the high 12s and super low 13s. Like I said dont dog a car you know nothing of. Honestly from what I have read from this stupid thread is a bunch of BMW elitist opinions. Sorry brothers, BMW is not the fastest make and its far from it. With 1/5 the price you can put a rx8 in the high 200s unlike a bmw e36 takes roughly 8-10k for a professionally done job. Keep the lips shut if you know nothing is all I have to say.

r26b ftw.

325i's are terrible.

/thread

I don't understand, I choose the car I liked, and between the 330 and 325, I got the slower, cheaper one as I'm not a big time speed guy. I see no point as to why you'd question my choice. As for everyone else, sorry I got so excited over the whole thing, but further trying to prove me wrong isn't going to help anything. I know a lot of you would be happy to see gone so, I think I'll find another site. And as for the last post, that was not me, but someone signed on as me. So dont think I'm saying two differnet things at once. I thought this was a bmw forum, not a place where people with mazda's would flame your ideas. See ya.

Dude there is no need to be so dramatic and leave the forum. You didn't know what you were talking about, you got called out, take it like a man, and learn from it. There's a lot you can learn from this site and from the people on here. I think the biggest thing you'll learn is that the "elitist" attitude you have is not shared by the majority of people here save for the few high schoolers who think they are cool cuz they have a bmw.

There was a video on google video that showed an RX-8 staying with a C5 Corvette (Corvette gaining some ground on straights, but then losing it at the turns). Mazda knew exactly what they were doing when they made this car, it is 50/50 wieght distribution, and it handles better than M3's (with M owner a few posts back vouching for that). Once Mazdaspeed introduces lower compression, turbo RENISIS Rotaries, the RX-8's will be making the same power the RX-7's do.

my car pwns the bseries trucks

A friend of mine down the street has a rx7, with a huge supercharger, $6500 rims, widebody, the whole deal...hes all into rotarys, i know very little about them, well he said the motors start to go after 100k? is that true? do the rotarys last long? keep in mind i dont know much about rotarys so dont call me an idiot lol...

Pimp, unfortunately prior rotaries have not faired to well with forced induction (s/c, t/c etc). However, the renesis was designed to last as long or longer then a normal piston engine.

I'm guessing i'll get about 150-200k out of mine before i need to rebuild it.

Cleoent, thank you for saying most of what's needed to be said.

Who thinks this is a bad looking car?
BTW, this is MY car, photos shot by an amateur photographer.
The flames are REAL, as a result of removing the cat and revving the car near redline. It runs really rich.:buttrock

Oh, and I have plenty of video on my (temporarily disabled) website proving the RX-8's worth on a race track.

From my experience, E36 M3s (even gutted race cars) can't hang with me on the track. I've never had a problem with E46 M3s, either.
Here's a pic of a surprised E46 M3 owner, wondering what that ugly, underpowered car is doing passing him...

Oh, and I have plenty of video on my (temporarily disabled) website proving the RX-8's worth on a race track.

From my experience, E36 M3s (even gutted race cars) can't hang with me on the track. I've never had a problem with E46 M3s, either.
Here's a pic of a surprised E46 M3 owner, wondering what that ugly, underpowered car is doing passing him...

can you pass them on the straights at all?

my $.02 in defense of the RX-8:

Where to start? First off, the RX-8 is not about it's power. If that's what you're in for when you buy that car, you're way off base. Go buy a Camaro.

Secondly, why would someone be proud of beating an AUTOMATIC RX-8 in an acceleration contest? You might as well start bragging on how you beat a stock Miata the other day, too.

Regarding the 6-speed (which I have), it's funny how some people consider <$30,000 a sports car that does 0-60 in 5.9sec and the 1/4 in 14.6 to be "slow". That's faster than 90% of the cars on the road. Besides that, I can't really respect someone as a driver who can't appreciate any performance aspect of a car other than it's straight line acceleration. The RX-8 is not slow in a straight line, yet it's borderline FAST, OVERALL.

Bone stock, an RX-8 is JUST AS FAST IN A STRAIGHT LINE AS A STOCK E36 M3. 238hp and under 3000lbs vs 240hp and just under 3000lbs. Right off the line, the M3 will get ahead because of it's torque, but other than that, they accelerate equally, for all intensive purposes.

If you can't appreciate this car for what it is, then I think you lose some credit as a true enthusiast of sports cars.

An E36 M3 is not as fast as an RX-8 on a road course. What the RX-8 "lacks" in power it MORE than makes up for in handling, braking, and overall balance. I tracked my former 325is, with M3 suspension and brakes, and have driven plenty of E36 and E46 M3s. Just so you all understand, I LOVE them. However, the RX-8 is much faster than the E36 M3 on a road course. In fact, Top Gear ran IDENTICAL times in an RX-8 and an E46 M3 on their course, with the Stig driving! In my experience, E36 M3s haven't even posed a challenge on the track and I've never had much trouble getting by an E46 M3. Sure, I'll take some of that credit, but the RX-8 is just fantastic on the track, and quick enough around town to get it's driver in plenty of trouble!

So, you want some evidence? Ok... wait till my website is up and running again:stickoutt

can you pass them on the straights at all?

We're not racing, so all I can say is that I'm faster than the E36 M3s around the entire course. In order to pass them while racing, I'd need to come out of the turn with more speed, which does occur. So, Yes, I COULD pass them on the straights. In a real race situation, it would likely be getting next to them in the straights and the pass occuring under braking and into the turn.

As for the E46 M3s, it'd take a real pro to pull off a pass on the straight if the M3 had a pro driver, too. In DE we back off the gas to let a passing car go by.

Besides that, I can't really respect someone as a driver who can't appreciate any performance aspect of a car other than it's straight line acceleration.

No kidding.

I mean, from American muscle car owners who want to talk trap times and all that, sure, fine, whatever. I guess I can understand that. But this is a BMW board, and what makes BMWs very nice cars is the driving experience, the handling, stuff like that. If you're just driving in a straight line, everything that makes your car special is pretty much neutralized.

Regarding the 6-speed (which I have), it's funny how some people consider <$30,000 a sports car that does 0-60 in 5.9sec and the 1/4 in 14.6 to be "slow".
I had a bone-stock '92 SUV that was way faster than that.

I had a bone-stock '92 SUV that was way faster than that.
Cool. How was it in the turns?

What was it? A GMC Typhoon?

Bone stock, an RX-8 is JUST AS FAST IN A STRAIGHT LINE AS A STOCK E36 M3.

I have no reason to doubt your roadcourse findings but I do not see this as being realistic. I have had more than a few run-ins with 6 speed RX-8's; from stop lights, 40MPH pulls, to freeway blasts. It was never even a contest, the M3 pulled on them hard.

But I do respect the RX-8 for what it can do well. In fact, I was going to buy one long ago. I was excited for years before it came out as I followed Mazda's progress on the new rotary. I sat in the RX-8 at the LA auto show before it's debut and I was IMPRESSED! But alas, Mazda's power drops, then the disappointing fuel economy EVERYONE reports kept me from biting the rotary bullet. As much as I want to confide in their tech marvel, if they couldn't get the power and economy right from the get-go I have my doubts as to whether they have solved all the rotaries self-destructing tendencies either.

the rx8 is a turqueless pos

the rx8 is a turqueless pos

Speaking of POS, did you fix the problem where you car (BMW) wouldn't go into gear?

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I have no reason to doubt your roadcourse findings but I do not see this as being realistic. I have had more than a few run-ins with 6 speed RX-8's; from stop lights, 40MPH pulls, to freeway blasts. It was never even a contest, the M3 pulled on them hard.

But I do respect the RX-8 for what it can do well. In fact, I was going to buy one long ago. I was excited for years before it came out as I followed Mazda's progress on the new rotary. I sat in the RX-8 at the LA auto show before it's debut and I was IMPRESSED! But alas, Mazda's power drops, then the disappointing fuel economy EVERYONE reports kept me from biting the rotary bullet. As much as I want to confide in their tech marvel, if they couldn't get the power and economy right from the get-go I have my doubts as to whether they have solved all the rotaries self-destructing tendencies either.

Same hp and weight, for all intensive purposes. When the RX-8 is pushed to it's max, it has similar acceleration to the E36 M3, stock to stock. The 0-60 time for the RX-8 is 5.9 sec. I believe it was about the same for the E36 M3. If you've been pulling on RX-8 6-speeds HARD, then the drivers either didn't know what they were doing, they were in too low of a gear, or you have mods.

I also have followed the RX-8 since the RX-EVOLV concept. It just made sense to me. A 4-door, 4-seat coupe with extraordinary handling, decent power, and good looks for under $30k? I didn't expect to get one, but a deal came along that I could afford and couldn't refuse.

I remember when i first started following the evolv they were talking about how it would have some cool key that would lower the HP if you programmed the key for one of your kids. I wonder what ever happened to that idea :(

I remember when i first started following the evolv they were talking about how it would have some cool key that would lower the HP if you programmed the key for one of your kids. I wonder what ever happened to that idea :(

If you ask most people here, they'd probably tell you that we DID get the key... They just forgot to include a way to release the FULL hp!

:lol

If you ask most people here, they'd probably tell you that we DID get the key... They just forgot to include a way to release the FULL hp!

:lol

:rofl

Zoom Zoom.

Zoom Zoom.
Yes sir, passing any e36 on the twisties!

Sweet Ride Nice kills

Same hp and weight, for all intensive purposes. When the RX-8 is pushed to it's max, it has similar acceleration to the E36 M3, stock to stock. The 0-60 time for the RX-8 is 5.9 sec. I believe it was about the same for the E36 M3. If you've been pulling on RX-8 6-speeds HARD, then the drivers either didn't know what they were doing, they were in too low of a gear, or you have mods.

Most good RX-8 drivers pull low 15's and some dip to high 14's. Most good M3 drivers pull low 14's with some dipping to 13's. That full second is a big deal. Not to mention that to pull of those times in the 8 you have to really wind it up and launch perfectly. The M can launch at relatively low RPMs and with ease. Out on the road, where you aren't always in the right gear, need to downshift, etc...the M prevails again with the torque giving it the ability to pull even when in the wrong gear.

so yeah, pulling HARD is a good description. My old 170hp intergra was about a 15 sec car and godddamn was it slower than the M.

I agree with almost everything you said trav, except for the 15's and good drivers. Good drivers in the rx8 are pulling mid 14's to mid-high 14's, the average joe is getting 15's.

13'9's in a stock e36 m3 while possible takes an expert like Dave.

But i'll also agree that a stock m3 in a straight line is noticebly quicker then a rx8.

I agree with almost everything you said trav, except for the 15's and good drivers. Good drivers in the rx8 are pulling mid 14's to mid-high 14's, the average joe is getting 15's.

13'9's in a stock e36 m3 while possible takes an expert like Dave.

But i'll also agree that a stock m3 in a straight line is noticebly quicker then a rx8.

Didn't Dave pull a high 13 in a 330i?

Didn't Dave pull a high 13 in a 330i?

I thought he only mustered like a 14.1 but did high 13's with his CL type s... :dunno

I thought he only mustered like a 14.1 but did high 13's with his CL type s... :dunno


Screw Honda. :shiftbomb

Bro,
Read and ridiculous!

But now i'm mad you had me read this since i have so much work to do. :mad

:stickoutt

Bro,
Read and ridiculous!

But now i'm mad you had me read this since i have so much work to do. :mad

:stickoutt

Funny as hell though right?

:rofl

Alright, a few qualifiers...

I DID say that an RX-8 needs to have a good driver that knows what gear to be in. Well, I actually said, "When the RX-8 is pushed to it's max, it has similar acceleration to the E36 M3, stock to stock.", but it means the same thing.

The M3 has better 1/4 mile times because it launches so much better and has better torque. Line the two cars up rolling in their power bands in 2nd gear, though, and there won't be much difference. On the track, the cars are pretty equal in the straights.

So, you want some evidence? Ok...

www.scottbarton.net/anthony/PutnamPark/Videos

"LastSessionPart1.wmv" starts out with me going past an E36 M3. I don't know if it had any mods, but my car was BONE stock, except for Hawk HP+ brake pads and Ate SuperBlue fluid. The only reason it had the edge on me down the straight was because he jumped back to full throttle before me when we were slowed by the car in front of us.

Help yourself to some of the other vids, too.
If you go back to scottbarton.net/anthony and then go to BeaveRun and Videos, "EliseChase.wmv" is a good comparison between the 2 cars. I just went to Mid-Ohio and there are good vids there. And for fun, under The Glen and then Videos, "FastMachinery.wmv" is pretty sweet. Turn up the volume!

Just make sure you "Right-Click" and "Save-As" to your desktop.;)

Take me for a ride on Bankhead. My roommate and I can show you =)

It's not incredible, but it works.

Ftw

He's got an m50 mani. From a dig I can take out my buddy's rx8 and keep a 1-2 CL until 110 or so, because they have like 140 or so TQ. Now when I install my schrick mani I should pull a tad bit more. 328's are gay from mid 3rd gear on, its like they stop working (pulling)

haha the flywheel helps the revs in 4th gear a bit... but yeah our cars dont work after 3rd gear hahaha! sadly...

I usually refrain from posting, but this is the most ignorant statement I have ever heard. What do you mean by pile of shit? They don’t break down, the RX-7, RX-8, and Miata handle better than any BMW I’ve been in, they’re cheap to run, and extremely quick around a track. If you think they’re piles of shit just because they can’t keep up with an M3 in a straight line then I think you’ve missed then entire premise behind every mildly sporty road car Mazda has manufactured. Just because a car isn’t wearing a blue and white propeller doesn’t make it inferior, hell, put an RX-8 against an M3 on a track and it will get raped six ways to Sunday.

What impresses you more, an M3 pulling away from an RX-8 at highway speeds, or a Miata passing a Corvette in turn 10 at Sebring? I have seen the latter, and it was damn impressive.

Fun fact: Mazda is the most popular race platform in America, and the Miata is the most popular road racing car.


You couldnt have said it any better. :cool

the rx8 is a turqueless pos


you're car really looks like a pos... that thing is nasty... seriously. ZHP bumper on an e36?
i might as well put my moms MDX bumper on my E36... it'll probably look phat. litterly.

i really didnt feel like reading the whole thread but i wanted to give my opinion on RX8's.

I really like them, actually for the past few monthes i have been considering trading the 330 for one. i think with the mazdaspeed kit it is one of the coolest looking cars on the road and they are SO much fun to drive.

I was driving past a local Mazda dealer and noticed a black Evo8 and a silver RX8 parked out front. the evo was modded ~400awhp and the RX8 was bone stock. i test drove both and even though the 400+hp evo made the rx8 feel as slow as a turtle i still liked the RX8 better. they are very nice cars and i want one.

that is all.

thats what i like to hear 328 wuppin on some mazdas i like

i really didnt feel like reading the whole thread but i wanted to give my opinion on RX8's.

I really like them, actually for the past few monthes i have been considering trading the 330 for one. i think with the mazdaspeed kit it is one of the coolest looking cars on the road and they are SO much fun to drive.

I was driving past a local Mazda dealer and noticed a black Evo8 and a silver RX8 parked out front. the evo was modded ~400awhp and the RX8 was bone stock. i test drove both and even though the 400+hp evo made the rx8 feel as slow as a turtle i still liked the RX8 better. they are very nice cars and i want one.

that is all.

I've had the same experience in modded Evos and still don't want one. I don't like AWD or turbos, though, so that may be part of it.
I test drove a 330i ZHP for comparison. It's a great road car, but isn't as fast in acceleration, didn't have a LSD, and wasn't as sharp in the handling. That opinion is coming from someone who loves BMWs, I used to sell them, and I've liked the ZHP in particular, since it came out. My RX-8 just suits ME better.

I love my RX8 buts its for sale now....I need the money to finally get my NSX!!!

you're car really looks like a pos... that thing is nasty... seriously. ZHP bumper on an e36?
i might as well put my moms MDX bumper on my E36... it'll probably look phat. litterly.


Must say, his Ti looks just as good as your car.

Plus he's got shower power. :devillook

I got to mess around with my friend's RX-8 stick before he sold it, i did various launches to 60 and autox'd it, and it really isn't that impressive in terms of handling or power. I think it's way overrated, and everyone just keeps believing what the magazines say. I've driven over 70 cars including the RX-8 competitors i.e. s2k and 350z, and the RX-8 isn't as great as everyone says. compared to my stock 328 back when it was stock, i still liked it better than the RX-8, just more solid, and more fun to drive. BMW makes a very solid car; suspension, transmission, power. sorry, just my .02 although it's kind of off topic since the thread is purely on racing.

I got to mess around with my friend's RX-8 stick before he sold it, i did various launches to 60 and autox'd it, and it really isn't that impressive in terms of handling or power. I think it's way overrated, and everyone just keeps believing what the magazines say. I've driven over 70 cars including the RX-8 competitors i.e. s2k and 350z, and the RX-8 isn't as great as everyone says. compared to my stock 328 back when it was stock, i still liked it better than the RX-8, just more solid, and more fun to drive. BMW makes a very solid car; suspension, transmission, power. sorry, just my .02 although it's kind of off topic since the thread is purely on racing.

If you don't think that an RX-8 would smoke a 328i in handling, you have no idea what you're talking about or how to drive the RX-8 (if not the 328, as well).

The more I drove the RX-8, the more impressed I was with it. I liked it, initally, but it grew on me even more with time. Now, if you have any experience in performance cars, you really wouldn't be too impressed with it's power and you wouldn't care much about doing 0-60 runs in it, because that is probably it's least-strong point in terms of it's overall package and it's not at all the point of the car! But if you think that a car that domintates B-Stock in autocross does not handle well, then you're on crack.

I have probalby driven more cars than you (owned a 325is w/ M3 suspension and brakes before the RX-8) and I've spent a good amount of time in each of the cars you mentioned, including autocross (I've driven hard, but not autoxed a 350Z, though). Add to that having autocrossed Porsche 911s, MR-2s, Lotus Elise (Sport 190), modded WRX, Corvettes, M3s (E36 and E46), Z3/M Roadster/Coupe, and Z4... Oh, and I've been an autocross instructor for the past few years with SCCA, BMWCCA, and PCA, so I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that I have an idea as to what I'm talking about.

More credentials? I sold cars for 5 years throughout college. Mostly in Honda and BMW, but we also had Mazda, Porsche, Audi, and Acura, all of which I spent time in. (We had M-B and LR, too, but who cares?). I've had the opportunity to drive (hard or autocross) more cars than I can even recall.

Here's the video of the autocross in my friend's Elise Sport 190 (S1, 1400 lbs and 190 hp Rover motor). The spin is AFTER the finish line, which is hard to see, and it was for show. (btw, this was my 1st run in the Lotus)

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Nice run! Guess the Mazdas were looking for spankings that day.

WOW, you got hosed. Nice runs though
QFT - $300 for labor with a kit? Couple hours should be charged, tops! That's giving the mechanic four 15 minute smoke breaks.

I thought he only mustered like a 14.1 but did high 13's with his CL type s... :dunno
He mustered a 14.01, so more or less a 14 flat.

IIRC e36 M3's have been as quick as 13.7x, but more commonly run around 14 flat.