I haven't been a race in a long time. I actually met him at the Autozone and we started talking about our cars. He's running 12 lbs of boost at 274 rwhp. I'm running now 10 lbs strong and probably at 300 rwhp. We didn't get a chance to line up, but we did a roll from about 50 mph and I pretty much just kept pulling. Almost to a point where it seemed like he wasn't even trying, but he's pretty cool. I've seen him plenty of times, so I'm sure we'll get a chance to line up eventually and see how things go. Those cars are damn quick though from a stop!

nice run. isn't 12 psi stock on an EVO 8?

and they're AWHP :D

thought stock is like 18-20

thought stock is like 18-20
I'm thinking of my gvr4. my bad.

why would you drop your boost 6-8 psi from stock?

why would you drop your boost 6-8 psi from stock?
who are you asking? the evo driver?

well jordan said that stock was 18-20, but the evo guy said he was running 12... doesn't make sense to drop your boost by 6-8 psi. so to answer your question, i guess i was talking to myself :dunno

thought stock is like 18-20

I'm not sure, but that wouldn't make sense. I'm guessing 12 is stock. He didn't have any guages on his A-pillar, so I'm guessing he hasn't bumped it up or down?

well jordan said that stock was 18-20, but the evo guy said he was running 12... doesn't make sense to drop your boost by 6-8 psi. so to answer your question, i guess i was talking to myself :dunno
oh ok. :)

Stock boost for the evos is 19 psi.

why would he lower his boost by 7 psi then?

If he didn't have any gauges and he can't drive, I'd say he doesn't know his own specs.

Well...maybe he upgraded the turbo and had to drop to a lower boost?

doesn't sound like much of an upgrade...

Well...maybe he upgraded the turbo and had to drop to a lower boost?
That would be a downgrade then. When I was stock my stock '05 Evo VIII would spike to 22psi and hold 19psi to redline.

would it be possible to drop it for maybe gas mileage? that seems like the only logical explanation unless there was something wrong with his car... maybe he's running 22 psi and misspoke?

I dont think its that easy to control boost like other cars with a boost controller....its done within the ECU, remapping or piggy back computer....correct me if im wrong steiner

That would be a downgrade then. When I was stock my stock '05 Evo VIII would spike to 22psi and hold 19psi to redline.

I have a 20g and run 10lbs of boost. If I went to a T60-1 or GT35r I would have to run less than 10lbs safely I believe, but I would still make more power.

I'd say it would be impossible to run 12psi on the stock turbo/wg. Unless the actuator spring set there or lower stock.

BMWmaniac- go find this dude and ask him what's up...

The EVO could not have been running 12psi., seems too low considering stock EVO 8s run 19psi. Nice kill. I've always wondered about the outcome of a race with a Turbo M3 and an EVO.

There is no difference in power between the MR and any other Evo trim.

Next time I see him, I'll get the whole scoop.

Wrong...the MR is 300lbs lighter than the base evo 8 model, thus making the power to weight ratio help but more work force to the road...weight was saved by the roof being aluminum, 1-peice forged alloy wheels, aslo the suspension was upgraded which included MacPherson struts, coil springs, tube shocks and an anti-roll bar up front and a multilink setup with forged aluminum links, coil springs, tube shocks, and an anti-roll bar in the rear, also features specially calibrated Bilstein shocks to iron out the rough stuff at high speeds. And last of all the MR was a six speed maual where as the base evo was only a 5- speed. Do ur homework next time before u make a comment again....

And personally and extra 3 tenths of a second in the quarter and a couple grand in suspension mods really seperates the MR from the regular EVO :redspot

Holy crap, that's the most elaborate bunch of bs Ive ever read. :eek: The MR is the 2nd heaviest of the Evos (behind the regular VIII with the SSL package). The roof is aluminum (so is the one on the RS) vs. steel on the VIII and it saves a whopping 8 lbs. The wheels are 1 lb. lighter each. The suspension has different shocks and it does have a 6-speed so you got those parts right.

As far as running 12 lbs. unless he's breaking in a new motor I cant think of any reason to drop boost that low. Even with a larger turbo you need to run closer to stock boost levels (19-21psi) to get decent power. He sure as hell wouldnt be making 274whp running that much boost.

Wrong...the MR is 300lbs lighter than the base evo 8 model, thus making the power to weight ratio help but more work force to the road...weight was saved by the roof being aluminum, 1-peice forged alloy wheels, aslo the suspension was upgraded which included MacPherson struts, coil springs, tube shocks and an anti-roll bar up front and a multilink setup with forged aluminum links, coil springs, tube shocks, and an anti-roll bar in the rear, also features specially calibrated Bilstein shocks to iron out the rough stuff at high speeds. And last of all the MR was a six speed maual where as the base evo was only a 5- speed. Do ur homework next time before u make a comment again....

And personally and extra 3 tenths of a second in the quarter and a couple grand in suspension mods really seperates the MR from the regular EVO :redspot


yea uh the guy said theres no difference in power..... you did not list one thing that made a difference in horsepower all weight and suspension. maybe you should read the whole post before responding.:lol

Holy crap, that's the most elaborate bunch of bs Ive ever read. :eek: The MR is the 2nd heaviest of the Evos (behind the regular VIII with the SSL package). The roof is aluminum (so is the one on the RS) vs. steel on the VIII and it saves a whopping 8 lbs. The wheels are 1 lb. lighter each. The suspension has different shocks and it does have a 6-speed so you got those parts right.

As far as running 12 lbs. unless he's breaking in a new motor I cant think of any reason to drop boost that low. Even with a larger turbo you need to run closer to stock boost levels (19-21psi) to get decent power. He sure as hell wouldnt be making 274whp running that much boost.

I was wondering when someone who knows what they're talking about would chime in.

The guy with the Evo was either:

1) an idiot and didn't know the first thing about his car.

OR

2) like Mikey52 said - he may be breaking in a new motor, but he wouldn't even be close to the HP figure he was quoting if running boost that low. FWIW stock boost on the 05's is 20 - 21 psi.

FYI - for about $1200 you can get ~ 300 - 330 awhp in the Evo VIII. The new Evo's (IX) are getting approx. 330 - 350 awhp with just a flash and turbo back exhaust.

Maybe u should have read what i wrote...cause the difference of 300 lbs allows for that 274 hp to do more work than a car thats 300 lbs heavier thus making the car faster which is the same as adding about 20 hp at the wheels or so.

And i guess Mistu, Car and Drive, Road & Track and Test Drive all lied about the MR.

And the only lighter version of the EVO was the Rally edition one, but that removed the AC and Anti-lock brake system and a couple of other non-essential components.

He was talking about 'power', as in crank/wheel horsepower, which IS roughly the same. You mis-interpreted it, and talked about power-weight ratio.
Comparing apples to oranges don't teach a thing.
Clearer references + better comprehension ftw

Should be an interesting outcome when I get my turbo installed and race my buddies Evo 8 with a GT3076 and a bunch of other mods (HKS cams, Ti exhaust, boost controller, etc). He says he is in the neighborhood of 400rwhp, but hasn't been dyno verified.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/slcook54/MeTommy.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/slcook54/TommysEvo.jpg

Wrong...the MR is 300lbs lighter than the base evo 8 model, thus making the power to weight ratio help but more work force to the road...weight was saved by the roof being aluminum, 1-peice forged alloy wheels, aslo the suspension was upgraded which included MacPherson struts, coil springs, tube shocks and an anti-roll bar up front and a multilink setup with forged aluminum links, coil springs, tube shocks, and an anti-roll bar in the rear, also features specially calibrated Bilstein shocks to iron out the rough stuff at high speeds. And last of all the MR was a six speed maual where as the base evo was only a 5- speed. Do ur homework next time before u make a comment again....

And personally and extra 3 tenths of a second in the quarter and a couple grand in suspension mods really seperates the MR from the regular EVO :redspot
Wow. Where to start? For one I've never come across a bigger moron on these forums. Do YOUR homework, read this link and come back and apologize to myself and everybody else for spouting of multiple posts full of BS and mininfo.

http://www.mitsubishicars.com/MMSA/jsp/lancerevolution/features_specs.jsp?t=all

You honestly have no clue. Please pay carefull attention to the fact that the MR is the heaviest USDM Evo by about 20lbs and it SHARES the aluminium roof with the LIGHTEST of Evos, the RS. I could go on trying to make you look bad but, honestly, it's too easy. You've done a much better job with your own words than I could have ever done. A final word of advice. Don't argue Evo specs with an Evo owner. :rolleyes

:lol, Evowned

Should be an interesting outcome when I get my turbo installed and race my buddies Evo 8 with a GT3076 and a bunch of other mods (HKS cams, Ti exhaust, boost controller, etc). He says he is in the neighborhood of 400rwhp, but hasn't been dyno verified.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/slcook54/MeTommy.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/slcook54/TommysEvo.jpg


Should be a good race.

With those mods he SHOULD be near, if not, right at that power output.

The Evo's take extremely well to mods.

Let us know the outcome...

Well, hopefully, next time we race, I'll be upwards of the 400rwhp mark:devillook

Wow, no idea my thread would turn into an EVO discussion....I neve saw the rear of his car...it looked like an EVO VIII because of the intercooler in front and huge rear wing and the recaro seats....all I know is what he told me. Relax guys, we're all friends here!

Yup, could be an Evo IX also I believe since they received a few minor cosmetic changes? Someone else will have to verify that.

Yup, could be an Evo IX also I believe since they received a few minor cosmetic changes? Someone else will have to verify that.

Trying to add fuel to the fire:stickoutt

wow u pulled specs from the new evo whereas we were all talking about the 05, and i did my homework... pulled up every article on the damn thing and read em all to make sure the info i presented was acurrate. And i dont give a damn what the difference in hp is, cause a car wit 274 hp weighing in at 2100 lbs stomped all of its challengers that had up to 3 times the power, maybe u remember it, it was the colbot on the Tuner Challenge on speed channel....and why u ask, cause of the power to weight ratio not the overall hp number, so quite being an idiot american and always thinking more is more when in realty less is more in the world of cars, less weight = greater work force. More work force = more speed and More speed = win
Dude you are lost. I drive an '05 Evo. I've forgot more things about this car then you'll ever know. Please just delete your posts and go away. You're so out of your tree on this discussion. I'm done arguing. Please see the link below. Motortrend compared all of the '05 Evo trims (MR, GSR, RS) in a track test last year at Willow Springs. Pay carefull attention to the following quote on page 3...

...It's not so easy to simply ascribe the RS's acceleration advantage to just lower curb weight. Illogically, the MR, 10 pounds heavier than the VIII, nipped the Evo VIII to the same point (and, in retrospect, was quicker during our earlier quarter-mile runs as well)...

Please read this story from front to back and then apologize to myself and every other person subscribed to this thread for posting information you've pulled directly from your ass.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_0503_2005_lancer_comparison/index.html

wow u pulled specs from the new evo whereas we were all talking about the 05, and i did my homework... pulled up every article on the damn thing and read em all to make sure the info i presented was acurrate. And i dont give a damn what the difference in hp is, cause a car wit 274 hp weighing in at 2100 lbs stomped all of its challengers that had up to 3 times the power, maybe u remember it, it was the colbot on the Tuner Challenge on speed channel....and why u ask, cause of the power to weight ratio not the overall hp number, so quite being an idiot american and always thinking more is more when in realty less is more in the world of cars, less weight = greater work force. More work force = more speed and More speed = win

You need to stop posting misinformation, the RS is the lightest evo (comes with AC), followed by the GSR or base model evo and then the MR. This has been the trend from 03-06 and it won't change.

05 MR with 1/4 gas + ~200 pound driver should way btw. 3400-3500 pounds on the scale.

The 03-05 MR gear ratios in the 6 speed actually hinder 1/4 times and are not any faster than the other evos. The gearing in the 03-05 base model gsr's or RS are actually more suited for 1/4 racing, and in actuallity the rs + gsr models gives a good advantage in the 1/4 once modified. In the handling department the RS is going to take the win because its lighter and will be more responsive.

Do you think that lightweight rims + room, and lightened suspension components can drop 300 pounds?

Once again do not argue evo facts with an evo driver x2.

on topic:

12 PSI doesn't sound right, he must be confused, b/c even a GT35 can run 19-20 psi on 93 gas with a decent tune. An evo IX won't run 12 PSI either, even in stock configuration it should hit 20.3 psi at peak boost. Good kill :)

Didn't know there were so many m3 + evo drivers...

You need to stop posting misinformation, the RS is the lightest evo (comes with AC), followed by the GSR or base model evo and then the MR. This has been the trend from 03-06 and it won't change.

05 MR with 1/4 gas + ~200 pound driver should way btw. 3400-3500 pounds on the scale.

The 03-05 MR gear ratios in the 6 speed actually hinder 1/4 times and are not any faster than the other evos. The gearing in the 03-05 base model gsr's or RS are actually more suited for 1/4 racing, and in actuallity the rs + gsr models gives a good advantage in the 1/4 once modified. In the handling department the RS is going to take the win because its lighter and will be more responsive.

Do you think that lightweight rims + room, and lightened suspension components can drop 300 pounds?

Once again do not argue evo facts with an evo driver x2.

on topic:

12 PSI doesn't sound right, he must be confused, b/c even a GT35 can run 19-20 psi on 93 gas with a decent tune. An evo IX won't run 12 PSI either, even in stock configuration it should hit 17-18 psi at peak boost. Good kill :)


pwned!

12??? My 05 runs 22psi stock easily...??

Hey fellow evo owners, my car is 300lbs lighter than yours!:alright :woot: BTW.....I'm only running 1psi of boost:rolleyes

from Mitsubishi site..

Here..for Evo9
http://www.mitsubishicars.com/MMSA/jsp/lancerevolution/features_specs.jsp?t=all
MR=3285lbs
GSR=3263lbs
GSR with sunroof/leather/sound=3338lbs
RS=3219lbs

bmwhotdrive...we're all waiting

bmwhotdrive...we're all waiting

Look im jus quoting facts outta one of the many articles online...and if they were wrong then I do apoligize for the misinfo.... but someone needs to get ahold of the publisher and tell him to delete the article or fix the facts he presented

Was it MODIFIED magazine? I know they ran an article last month where they claimed the MR had an extra 5hp over the other Evos. I've seen other magazines publish bad info too.

Was it MODIFIED magazine? I know they ran an article last month where they claimed the MR had an extra 5hp over the other Evos. I've seen other magazines publish bad info too.

No heres the link to the article http://car-reviews.automobile.com/Mitsubishi/review/2005-mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-viii-mr-road-test/749/1

Should be a good race.

With those mods he SHOULD be near, if not, right at that power output.

The Evo's take extremely well to mods.

Let us know the outcome...
He just went to get tuned today. 360awhp on 91 and 457rwhp on 110. He runs race gas a lot since it is close to him. This was his initial dyno also I believe, there is still some adjustments to be made.

No heres the link to the article http://car-reviews.automobile.com/Mitsubishi/review/2005-mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-viii-mr-road-test/749/1

yeah that doesnt seem right at all, I cant believe that your car is making 260 RWHP also.

bmwhotdrive,

Wow!!.. you weren't kidding... someone need to write to automobile.com
and correct all that incorrect information...

(removed my earlier reply...)

http://bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=517145

Anyone want an evo?? Only setup to run 35psi

No heres the link to the article http://car-reviews.automobile.com/Mitsubishi/review/2005-mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-viii-mr-road-test/749/1
Yeah they're smoking something over there. That's embarrassing that they even wrote that actually.

Yeah they're smoking something over there. That's embarrassing that they even wrote that actually.

lol

yeah that doesnt seem right at all, I cant believe that your car is making 260 RWHP also.

why not i have the dyno sheets at the shop i used to work at, i c if they can scan in and send em 2 me

well, bmwhotdrive, I guess that wasn't really your fault.
People gotta get their facts straight.

I also like the way the guy said the evo combined comfort and performance the way only an M5 can, but at a cost!!

I'm sure he meant practicality, because in that case, he's right, but I wouln't say the evo is a smooth cruising ride.

yeah that doesnt seem right at all, I cant believe that your car is making 260 RWHP also.
Read his sig.

Under the hood: '95 lightweight block M3 3.0L , '99 M3 3.2L head and cam (ported&polished), shortram intake, perfomance chip, remus headers, cam timing change, Weisco high compression pistons (11.5:1) bosch 30lb injectors, complete valve job (325bhp)(260 hp at the wheels)

There's headwork in there. And higher compression. Should do a bit.

SLcook54-Is the guys name Saed by any chance? I know someone pushing close to that much power with the same color evo and same rims.

Steiner-You know so much about EVO MR's, I have a question for you. Last week I was in Las Vegas crusining on the strip with the top down :buttrock . These guys rolled up in an MR bone stock. They kept reving at me to get me to race. I drive an E46 ///M3 SMG vert bone stock. Im excellent at launching! Barely any wheel spin with DSC off. Would I have taken him if we were to race?

SLcook54-Is the guys name Saed by any chance? I know someone pushing close to that much power with the same color evo and same rims.

Nah, different guy, my buddy Tommy is sponsored by Dunlop now, so he has a decent sized dunlop sticker on his rear quarter panel.

MR's are no faster/better than the other '05 Evos.....it's just a "jazzed-up" evo for dweebs like me.

The big difference in evos is this:
'06Evo>'05Evo>'03-'04Evo
Don't concern yourself so much with the trims as you do the years. It's the same with Lightnings and 4th-Gen F-bodies, etc. Revisions come with more power (not so much on paper...but in the real world). We are of course talking about stock and lightly modded evos, though...once past a certain level of mods...it doesn't matter what year you have.

- I will take a stab and say that only 5% of evo owners have a completely bone stock car. You can't tell, from the outside, whether they have a flash-tune or manual boost controller. You can't hear straight 264 cams (or 272's with a certain degree setting).

Don't confuse a loud exhaust for "heavily modded", and a stock-sounding exhaust for stock. (The secret is out, Boys!) .

I'll say it over and over...I wish I would have waited for the IX! Oh well.....

BTW, an '05 Evo is on par with an E46 M3 Coupe stock for stock....atleast in my experience. BUT..it is also my experience that there is a 50/50 chance the evo will be piloted by a complete noob, though. :)

Alright...carry on.

- I will take a stab and say that only 5% of evo owners have a completely bone stock car.

BTW, an '05 Evo is on par with an E46 M3 Coupe stock for stock....atleast in my experience.


Mine is completely stock.. other than some oil catch can stuff..:)
I'm the rare 5%... hahaha....:)

05 Evo=E46 M3...
I think E46 M3 should be slightly faster in the straight line... but then
whoever bought the M3 for straight line performance should shoot
himself in the head.

Mine is completely stock.. other than some oil catch can stuff..:)
I'm the rare 5%... hahaha....:)

A mod is a mod. You're in denial, Mr. 95%. J/K.:stickoutt

I kept mine stock for a while, too, but then the things started to just go on the car. First, a simple K&N drop-in filter...then an innocent little MBC (you know..to take care of the 'stock boost taper')...then a TBE (just to hear the farty-4 banger, though).

Steiner-You know so much about EVO MR's, I have a question for you. Last week I was in Las Vegas crusining on the strip with the top down :buttrock . These guys rolled up in an MR bone stock. They kept reving at me to get me to race. I drive an E46 ///M3 SMG vert bone stock. Im excellent at launching! Barely any wheel spin with DSC off. Would I have taken him if we were to race?
I just know more about Evos than the average BMW owner and visa-versa. That's all.

It's tough to say who would win really. On paper the AWD Evo should have you off the line but it's not as hard as people think to fuxor an AWD launch. I think the Evo and E46 M3 are pretty even in the 1/4 mile...both right about 13 flat if well driven. But after 100mph that autobahn gearing kicks our rally-ish gearing in the ass pretty good. FWIW, it took me a cat-back and an ECU flash to keep up with a stock '03 M3 on the freeway. That was over 30whp ago though...and the cams are in the mail. :evil2

A mod is a mod. You're in denial, Mr. 95%. J/K.:stickoutt

I kept mine stock for a while, too, but then the things started to just go on the car. First, a simple K&N drop-in filter...then an innocent little MBC (you know..to take care of the 'stock boost taper')...then a TBE (just to hear the farty-4 banger, though).

What is a TBE that I keep reading about?

well jordan said that stock was 18-20, but the evo guy said he was running 12... doesn't make sense to drop your boost by 6-8 psi. so to answer your question, i guess i was talking to myself :dunno

Stock boost on Evo is about 16psi...But depending on Evo & how your Evo is tuned...every Evo to me is almost tuned differently.

Stock boost on Evo is about 16psi...But depending on Evo & how your Evo is tuned...every Evo to me is almost tuned differently.

I don't even think the 03's and 04's stock boost is 16psi.

More like 18ish.

On my 05 stock boost is 20.5ish.

I'm running a little more now because of the mods I have.

Cams and a tune are next. Should be good for around 300awhp.

What is a TBE that I keep reading about?


Turbo Back Exhaust.

That means changing out the entire exhaust from the turbo back to the muffler. Huge gains can be achieved by opening up the exhaust from the restrictive stock pipes to the typical 3" with either high flow cats or no cats at all.

Sweet Ride Nice Ride

Sweet Ride Nice Ride

Why are 8 out of your 10 posts almost exactly the same as the one above? :confused

Race him for real, you'll destroy!

My EVO is 100% Bone stock, on stock tires, 93 pump gas, and nothing removed from the car.
Total weight of the car and me was 3,324lbs.
900 miles on it.

2nd time out:
R/T ------ .106
60'-------1.858
330------5.366
1/8-------8.328
mph-----82.93
1000----10.880
1/4------13.032
mph----102.77

Best trap speed 104.23

My EVO is 100% Bone stock, on stock tires, 93 pump gas, and nothing removed from the car.
Total weight of the car and me was 3,324lbs.
900 miles on it.

2nd time out:
R/T ------ .106
60'-------1.858
330------5.366
1/8-------8.328
mph-----82.93
1000----10.880
1/4------13.032
mph----102.77

Best trap speed 104.23

VIII or IX?

VIII or IX?

Probably a IX since it only has 900 miles, but the numbers are more in line with a 05 VIII. So what is it?

I was really close to get the IX RS since they can be had for $25k in CA now, but I stumbled onto a s54 mcoupe for the same money.

I still see a evo IX in my future :devillook

Probably a IX since it only has 900 miles, but the numbers are more in line with a 05 VIII. So what is it?

I was really close to get the IX RS since they can be had for $25k in CA now, but I stumbled onto a s54 mcoupe for the same money.

I still see a evo IX in my future :devillook


$25k? I thought they go for $27k now..?
PM me if you got some special deal.. :-P :)

I'm still stock too. I've got about 950 miles. I'm in that 5% too.

I'm still stock too. I've got about 950 miles. I'm in that 5% too.

You only have 950 miles, dude. Give it another couple of thousand miles and then come back!:D

I would have to say that there's no comparison between an S54 Coupe and an Evo RS if it's a daily driver. The more I modify my '05 RS, the more I realize I need another daily beater...maybe a POS 90's Civic hatch, a used Scion xA or one of those new Chevy Aveos. I'm usually carrying office equipment around in the trunk of my car and the RS is not the most practical form of transporting $15k pieces of hardware. :(

$25k? I thought they go for $27k now..?
PM me if you got some special deal.. :-P :)
It's a special deal that South Coast Mitsubishi is doing for EvoM members. Register and check it out. I know of a guy around here that drove down to get an IX MR for less than $35k OTD. That's pretty amazing.

Steiner,

You might want to check out the new Honda Fit... looks like a pretty good
utility car.

Yup, I saw that thread... Thanks.

VIII or IX?
IX GSR
got it shipped from CA, South Coast mitsu had them for 27,988 in march.
+ another $7-800 for shipping.
invoice on it is 31,800, and no one around here letting them go anywhere near invoice.

You only have 950 miles, dude. Give it another couple of thousand miles and then come back!:D


Lol....I bought it last November too. I've been daily driving the M3. I can't wait to do mods to it.:buttrock

After 5 years of bmw e30's and e36's exclusively (except one porsche 944) Now I too, am having "affairs" with mitsubishis.

It started off with a 95GST...I was gonna keep it stock.... it was only three weeks before the TBE, 18psi boost, BOV and intake...
Now its a 91 GSX. I drove my friends gsx( 20g turbo, injectors...etc), and I liked it. So I went and bought one for 400 bucks (I just gotta swap the tranny)
Now I am thinking about an EVO....

My Bmws are getting very jealous and they are theatening to leave me if I dont end this now...:) My OBD1 328is is also upset that I spent my AA chip tuning money on a GSX

And it gets even more embarrassing that I work in a BMW specialty shop...and when customers ask what I drive...that I point to a Mitsu.

yeh they quick from a stop wit them AWD systems, from a roll they a bit weak

yeh they quick from a stop wit them AWD systems, from a roll they a bit weak

Really?? Nothing a few mods can't cure. Or one in particular. A Boost controller is all you need.

From a roll I've done pretty well against many a car. I don't even bother with going from a roll. I like to smoke people from the dig.

+1 :alright


Quote:
Originally Posted by wcbimmr328
yeh they quick from a stop wit them AWD systems, from a roll they a bit weak


Really?? Nothing a few mods can't cure. Or one in particular. A Boost controller is all you need.

From a roll I've done pretty well against many a car. I don't even bother with going from a roll. I like to smoke people from the dig.