Worn out clutches suck. I have a 97 M3 with more crap on it than this guys car costed and he beat me on the highway. We were doing about 50 and he hit it. I took it up to 120 and he was able to pull away. Which is freaky for a probe. The clutch slips at about 3 grand. Oh well, time to buy the AA clutch. What's another $1000.

Tim

Did it look like the probe had work done, because even with a bad clutch your car should pull on the probe without any problems. Once your done slipping your clutch it shouldnt even be a race. Maybe he had some nitrous.:dunno

nope slips out of gear due to too much torque. Clutch engages fine, it just doesn't have any bite with the ~400 hp I am putting out

your scarin me here. Maybe a compression test is in store. I dont even think a probe can go past 120, they have a limiter as well as other things anti triple digits.

Originally posted by J10B
your scarin me here. Maybe a compression test is in store. I dont even think a probe can go past 120, they have a limiter as well as other things anti triple digits.



ahahaha

Originally posted by J10B
your scarin me here. Maybe a compression test is in store. I dont even think a probe can go past 120, they have a limiter as well as other things anti triple digits.

They go past 120mph, my brother has one and we were doing about 130 racing another car, I think the most they can reach is about 135 or just a little more. There are LOTS of modded ones out there too, I know some turboed ones that run 12's in the 1/4, as well as NOS'd ones that run 12's, so the story could be believable if you consider that and his clutch.
Heck, even stock they are pretty quick, almost 15.0 in the 1/4
My brother's 95 Probe GT has the usual bolt on mods and can hang w/in a car length or so with my 328is up until about 80, where I leave him pretty hard
We raced a stock 95 M3 in his Probe on the highway once from about 50-90 and the M3 only pulled a little over a car on us

If I pops out of gear and you know it will happen, can you for the clutch in gear with your hand???



by the way, I know nothing about slipping clutches. This may be a good time to educate me...

If I pops out of gear and you know it will happen, can you for the clutch in gear with your hand???

I have no idea what you just said.

:lol: cannon you beat me to it.


I wasnt knocking probes. I was just saying a slipping clutch isnt a good thing to race with.

Tell me that isn't a stock clutch that you are still running?

Kinda been putting off buying a high performance clutch the last couple of times I replaced it. I have purchased the AA clutch and it should be arriving shortly. The stock clutches last about 20,000 miles without driving it too hard and they only cost me $250 installed.. I do the labor myself. The AA clutch is $1000 and it is supposed to be pretty hard core.

And, I would also like to add myself to the list of "What the F@#$" is that supposed to mean, Dinan325ic. You can drive down the road, car is moving, you are in 5th gear, gas pedal is pushed more that 1/4 of the way down. Car starts to accelerate and then slips like you went into neutral, but the car never left the gear it was in.. The shifter also didn't move. If you drive like grandma, the car accelerates, but at a slow rate of speed.

Hope that clears things up.... Ford probes, like ford contours will top out between 135-140. It is freaky but I was in my buddys contour svt doing almost 140.... His contour SE would do the same speed.

Tim

Originally posted by Blown97M3
Kinda been putting off buying a high performance clutch the last couple of times I replaced it. I have purchased the AA clutch and it should be arriving shortly. The stock clutches last about 20,000 miles without driving it too hard and they only cost me $250 installed.. I do the labor myself. The AA clutch is $1000 and it is supposed to be pretty hard core.

Tim, is that 400 Rwhp? Because at 400 crank hp the stock clutch should still be good past 20k miles. I believe the stock clutch is rated up to about 350 rwhp.

You are correct, the stock sach's clutch should take close to 380hp at the crank with easy to moderate driving. It still will wear rapidly driving it hard. The reason that this last time it went so fast was because I had to teach someone how to drive a manual, and guess who's car was used. I love putting senseless wear and tear on my baby.

Last dyno run was ~400hp at the wheels. I had someone break into my car and they took everything out of my glove box so I cannot post a slip. They got other stuff, but insurance is nice. I had 3 runs that day and the first one was ~398, the second one was ~402 and the third one was ~401. I am putting the "~" in front of the numbers because they are not an exact number. The car is in storage now and I have to drive my crummy '01 Z28 Conv. This car is powerful, but now as fast and nimble as the M3. Oh yeah, I also just ordered the AA lightweight flywheel about 20 minutes ago. Things will be great when I can get my girl back onto the road.

Tim

That's pretty badass to have 400 rwhp in an E36 M3. Yeah, hope you get your new clutch in soon, and then we can see a whole new slew of kill stories come in. :)

Blown,
These ~figures your are discussing are Crank HP or Wheel HP. Also let us know your setup.

G

This sounds like a real bad night mare!

It is RWHP on a Dynojet.

lets just say 11psi and about $20,000 later and I get the number.

There is head work done too.

Tim

YUP, NEW CLUTCH.....

Blown97M3 where in Michigan do you live? West Bloomfield?

I know an early 90's ProbeGT took down an E46 M3 in Utah...Damn turbo cars...:)

Ford Probes are slow. I'm sorry but I've raced ones with a few bolt-ons and beat them by 10 cars or more. And as for them being low 15's bone stock. I seriously doubt that too. I've seen some at the track with exhaust and intake, and none of them even got into the 15's at all. Sure... if you turbo one or spray it, it'll be fast, but otherwise they are piss-poor slow.

Originally posted by Justin95GSR
Ford Probes are slow. I'm sorry but I've raced ones with a few bolt-ons and beat them by 10 cars or more. And as for them being low 15's bone stock. I seriously doubt that too. I've seen some at the track with exhaust and intake, and none of them even got into the 15's at all. Sure... if you turbo one or spray it, it'll be fast, but otherwise they are piss-poor slow.
And you have no idea what are you talkin about.Firs generation 89-92 Gt probe is 2,2l turbo,second gen 93-97 is 2,5 V6 and they are bouth mid to low 15's cars.I own 89GT with turbo upgrade,catback exaust,superchip,boost controler set at 17PSI and that is low 14's,high 13's car.

Well of course if you upgrade a turbo on an already turboed car from the factory it's gonna be fast. And the v6 PGT in stock form in the low 15s..... hahahaha. I'll beileve that when I see a timeslip

My buddy has a '94 Mazda MX-6LS. It's the same basic car as a Probe, just better build quality and such.. Anyways, his car will run a 15.7 or so with a good driver and tires. The Probe GT will be slightly slower because of the taller wheels. The first generation cars (2.2L turbo, I believe) will run high 14s with light mods.

-Drew