I was cruising along on my way home Saturday night and came across a stock looking e36 M3. As I caught up the guy/girl started going faster to try to get away from me or something so I scooted over into the next lane and matched speeds with them. At about 80 in fourth gear we floor and I quickly pull about 3 or 4 car lengths on them by the time I shut it down at about 110. Afterwards the M3 did a fly by and kept going. About 10 minutes later I came up to a black e36 M3, stock looking also, but he didnt want to race. Hey Scho, if you're reading this...we need a rematch.

Man, you must have a crazy car to beat the E36 M, you mind listing your mods? I am looking into a 330 soon.

Thanks. I've got a 3.0L M3 motor, AA Euro HFM, AA CAI, AA custom chip, 24lbs injectors, ES Tuning exhaust, URI UDPs.

LOL aight, as soon as I read you had the M motor, I just stopped reading :biglaughb

I was considering dropping an M in a 330, well have to see how much my bank account is willing to flex when the time comes.

Dropping a M engine into an e46 may cost some money especially after buying an e46. BTW, what did you think I had in my car?

I dunno, I thought maybe you slapped some kinds fukin blower on there, and it was a falsely badged M3, I dunno, I did not really think nething! And I would drop the M into an E36.

Oh I see. I wish I had a blower to slap on my car...lol. I thought you meant you were thinking of getting a e46 330 and putting a M3 engine in there...sorry about that.

If I was gonna do that, I would probaly just send up getting a lilttle older M3. My friends dad is selling a 1997 328is, I need to go check it out, but my friend told me his dad really took care of it. He wants round 16K and it has 40Kmiles, so I will try and see it this weekend.

Originally posted by Quest330is
I was cruising along on my way home Saturday night and came across a stock looking e36 M3. As I caught up the guy/girl started going faster to try to get away from me or something so I scooted over into the next lane and matched speeds with them. At about 80 in fourth gear we floor and I quickly pull about 3 or 4 car lengths on them by the time I shut it down at about 110. Afterwards the M3 did a fly by and kept going. About 10 minutes later I came up to a black e36 M3, stock looking also, but he didnt want to race. Hey Scho, if you're reading this...we need a rematch.

You sure that M3 wasn't in 5th gear when you floored it? Anyway, good kill.

Well I let the M3 take off first so if they were in 5th then they didnt know what they were doing.

wow.. sure it was a real M3 and not a M kitted 32x?

I'm sure it was a real M3. It had the full kit, wheels, etc. I saw the moldings and everything. Maybe it was an auto?

most likely.. good kill!

Originally posted by Quest330is
Well I let the M3 take off first so if they were in 5th then they didnt know what they were doing.

Not disputing your win, Joe. I just happen to want to leave it in 5th even during spirited driving on the highway, just because I'm too lazy to downshift. :) It could be the M3 was just driving fast and didn't really intend to try and race you. Either way, a win is a win.

Yeah that could be possible. I guess after looking at the race again, it wasnt really a good one. I'll find another one who really wants to race and post the results.

Nice kill, Joe! :alright

Thanks Dave.

good kill man. Too bad you didnt have your old rims. Imagine the look on their faces as you pull away!!! :)

Thanks Chuck. I've noticed my car being a little slower nonw with the 18s.

Why is everyone so surprised ? doesn't he have an M engine ?

Yeah, Joe has the M engine, and the benefit of lighter weight than the comparable M car, his car is no joke! :buttrock

Thanks Dave.

aceves, I dont know, maybe stock M3's should be quicker but I do have some good mods over a stock M3. I'm thinking of getting some LTW wheels though so I wont be a bit slower than I should be.

Power to weight ratio is your advantage, Joe, and it means everything in a race...

why would his car have a weight advantage over M3's?

Unless we're talking about the Lightweight M3, the M always weighs more than the car on which it's based, in this case, the 3 comparable 3 series model... Plus Joe's got some mods on that M motor too... it ain't stock...

I still dont see why an M3 would be significantly heavier than its 3 counterpart though.

Go look up some curbweights.... The 01 M Roadster has over 200 lbs on my Z3 3.0, as an example....

Actually, I had wanted to know how much lighter Joe's car was than a regular M3 back in another thread a while ago. Have you been able to weigh it yet, Joe?

I don't think the weight advantage is that big for a 325 versus an M3. Not sure about stock curb weights for the two but I did weigh my 95 325is once on certified scales.

It weighed 3140 pounds with a 1600-1540 distribution. Full tank of gas, sport package and sunroof. This may give you some idea about joe's car. Also, FWIW, I think larger wheels and brakes so are one of the biggest contributors to the extra weight of the M.

I havent weight my car yet but I'm thinking it should be close to or about the same as VT's car. I dont think theres much of difference between my car and a M3 either plus I have these heavy ass wheels...but who knows.

I wonder how much weight the additional reinforcements to the chassis on the M3 adds. Anyway, I still think your car's a little lighter, Joe, but the huge margin you won by should indicate a much bigger advantage. Too many variables to factor in here, so I'll just say again, nice win. :)

Thanks:)

Yeah, I'm not sure either, with the Z3, the M Roadster does not have a spare (the 3.0 does) and still weighs 200 lbs more than the Z3 3.0, curb weight to curb weight... :dunno