So I was downloading random crap on Ares tonight and I typed in BMW and downloaded a bunch of crap (inclduing an E30 Haynes manual by accident :buttrock ) and another thing I downloaded was BMW CarSoft 6.5 with a full crack. So I installed and did the crack procedures and I run the program and everything opens up (it seems to want a connection between my computer and the diag port on my bimmer though). My question is, is this what Stealerships use? It has options for OBD2 and OBD1 ports :eek: And has a Diagnostic scan utility which has a ton of option's including SRS, EWS, etc...anyone ever use this before?

no but it may be something to look into....

I wonder where I can get an adapter for my car... hmmm

http://www.nwbmwclub.com/pictures/New%20Picture.JPG

Holy Windows 98!!

so where'd ya get it...
or more specificly, WHERE CAN WE GET IT :buttrock

That's XP... good try though man.

so where'd ya get it...
or more specificly, WHERE CAN WE GET IT :buttrock

:nono That would be bad. But OMFG, did I stumble across something that is going to KICK ASS! All I need to do is locate the hardware adapters.

share the wealth.

FTP

share the wealth.

FTP

agreed

agreed
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bump for awesomeness...

i have the adapter and 6.5,7.1 but it works like crap... not worth the money unless u have the OE adapter(not the chinese one)

Tom

hmm I wonder if they just sell the adapters? Oh and I'll share once I figure out where to get the adapters...

awesome posabilities here

you can get the interface from here www . abidig . de i forget which one it is. carsoft is nice to have but it doesnt always run properly on new laptops and preferes older ones believe it or not. any hope this helps

man nothing seems to translate that website :(

try .com on the end instead

noice! doh! haha thanks

wow, they actually have the hardware just for CarSoft... it's 200 Euro's though...

wow, they actually have the hardware just for CarSoft... it's 200 Euro's though...
Yeah, too expensive.

Someone should find the wiring scheme so we can build it up ourselves.

Yeah, too expensive.

Someone should find the wiring scheme so we can build it up ourselves.
Yup...this could be so helpful for BF.c members :buttrock

Here is a start-In German but schematics are schematics.

http://www.miglenium.de/obd-diagnose_universal.html

Wow nice!

Easily going to do this now.

I was going to buy carsoft, but the assholes never replied to my emails. Now I have no problem ripping their ideas off.

I use the older version of carsoft. Version 3.4. It is dos based and only works with OBDI. I'm using an old 466mhz laptop and a pcmcia serial card to get the extra serial port (yes you need to use 2 serial ports.)

I got the cable sent from Germany for about AU$140 but that cable will only work with this version. As far as I know 6.5/6.7 uses a different cable with a conversion box in the middle.

This is the cable I got (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/PROFI-BMW-20-Pin-OBD-1-Diagnose-Interface-Servicereset_W0QQitemZ8045807678QQcategoryZ30921QQ rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/jimbo22/New_Car_pics/casoftcable.jpg
http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/jimbo22/New_Car_pics/casoft2.jpg
http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/jimbo22/New_Car_pics/casoft1.jpg

Carsoft claims you cant sell their crap on ebay... hmmm

Anyone know what happens if you have an OBDII engine converted to OBDI?

Older DOS version, still works though = http://www.motroniccode.com/uploads/bmw-carsoft_3_4.zip

Newer, non-Carsoft version = http://www.motroniccode.com/uploads/bmw-scanner.zip

One of the zips has an easy wiring schematic that should get you far enough. One supports only 1 com port and the DOS carsoft needs 2. I believe this should only really work with OBDI though, not sure. Enjoy.

Here:

http://www.f7lans.com/rob/bmw/carsoft/bmw-carsoft34.jpg

An easier one to understand:

http://www.f7lans.com/rob/bmw/carsoft/bmw-carsoft34_b.jpg

The OBDI port and each pin, and in the schemat above, which pins to use:

http://www.f7lans.com/rob/bmw/carsoft/Diagnosesteckerk.jpg

I was going to buy carsoft, but the assholes never replied to my emails. Now I have no problem ripping their ideas off.
Same here, I sent them two mails and they never got back to me :rolleyes

This is definitely an interesting subject, would be awesome if we could build or source the adapters for cheap. I'm hopeless at reading schematics though :(

the 2 schematics above are the early V3 type (note the twin ports..)
i'm sure there are 6.1 /6.5 schematics about though

I have the 6.5+ schematics but they are 3 layer boards so they are kinda expensive to make. PM me and ill send em to ya.

Tom

From the link in TerryY's post

http://www.miglenium.de/obd-diagnose_bmw65.html

but it does say that the version their plans are for doesn't read all modules

yup I had the same issues, it would show that some modules would not respond...

are you schematics different to the ones in the link though?
seems there is still something missing out of these anyway.
i'm sure i have seem schematics for these on p2p sharing systems, but i haven't really got the patience to start making PCB's up

www.techbmw.com

Can anyone tell me what options the DWA subsystem has?

I don't have the software to see it myself.

since when does bmwscanner work with e36 :dunno

Can anyone tell me what options the DWA subsystem has?

I don't have the software to see it myself.

usually the siren is connected to the DWA via subbus

Check this out, exactly same interface, as on eBay, but $150 + $10 shipping one-stop-factory.com

dumb question..... can somebody explain what carsoft is? I'm not entirely familiar with it.

I think this is the cable for carsoft, if you wanna try your hand at building one. I have seen several other schematics as well

http://jokesanonymous.com/e30/carsoft/BMW-Schaltplan.doc

I will try my hand at making some this summer. Im not spending $150 on a cable when I can make one for $10

usually the siren is connected to the DWA via subbus
Actually I wanted to know if Carsoft would allow me to enable that feature that activates the DWA with just turning the key on the door lock.

I think this is the cable for carsoft, if you wanna try your hand at building one. I have seen several other schematics as well

http://jokesanonymous.com/e30/carsoft/BMW-Schaltplan.doc

I will try my hand at making some this summer. Im not spending $150 on a cable when I can make one for $10
What version of Carsoft is that schematic for?

Im getting charged 107 bucks at the stealer for some jakass to plug in a cable maybe carsoft into my car as simple as just using his right arm, 107 bucks!!

Anyone want to seed this??? Share the wealth :)

I still have to hear one good experience about Carsoft, I remember some members bought it and said it was crap.

Carsoft 6.5...HERE (http://www.torrentspy.com/torrent/460099/BMW_Carsoft_6_5_SP1_Cracks_zip)

Has anyone found schematics for the 6.5 cable?

I don't have the schematics but just won the carsoft 6.5 version cable off ebay (search for bmw diagnostic interface) and should have it Friday. I will let you know how well it works after work.

-Patrick

I don't have the schematics but just won the carsoft 6.5 version cable off ebay (search for bmw diagnostic interface) and should have it Friday. I will let you know how well it works after work.

-Patrick

that's great...i've heard too many conflicting reports w/obd1. how much did you pay for the cable, may i ask?

I don't have the schematics but just won the carsoft 6.5 version cable off ebay (search for bmw diagnostic interface) and should have it Friday. I will let you know how well it works after work.

-Patrick

Keep us updated!

that's great...i've heard too many conflicting reports w/obd1. how much did you pay for the cable, may i ask?

I paid $162 including shipping. There were cheaper ones but I would rather not take the risk in getting a product that does not work. That being said, I don't expect carsoft to tell me everything about my car since it is an early build '94 but am interested to see what I get.

It comes with OBDI and II cables so if it doesn't work in this car, maybe in a future car, or I could just throw it back on ebay and see what I can get for it.

Please let me know if there's any options for the DWA subsystem...

I tried downloading the carsoft from that site and couldn't get it to open after downloading. It says it doesn't have a program to open it. Any suggestions?

I tried downloading the carsoft from that site and couldn't get it to open after downloading. It says it doesn't have a program to open it. Any suggestions?

You need a torrent program to download. uTorrent is what I use (HERE (http://www.utorrent.com/)). If you don't know what you're doing it's kind of a PITA to set it up...read the Guides and feel free to PM me questions if you need to.

Got it to work thanks.

Well, I got the cable today and went out to see what it would tell me. Unfortunately, it didn't tell me too much as expected. I suspect that my car being an early build '93 may have something to do with the limited amount of data I can pull but I wouldn't be able to tell you without a newer car to test on.

As for the person who asked about DWA. I cannot tell you much due to my car not being equipped with that system, but there is a section in carsoft that allows you to open/close the windows unlock/lock/deadlock the doors, and open the sunroof.

If I find out anything else I will be sure to update you.

-Patrick

Huh, I forgot all about carsoft. I never did end up making a cable.... I guess I have all the party laying around. I should ;)

Well, I got the cable today and went out to see what it would tell me. Unfortunately, it didn't tell me too much as expected. I suspect that my car being an early build '93 may have something to do with the limited amount of data I can pull but I wouldn't be able to tell you without a newer car to test on.

As for the person who asked about DWA. I cannot tell you much due to my car not being equipped with that system, but there is a section in carsoft that allows you to open/close the windows unlock/lock/deadlock the doors, and open the sunroof.

If I find out anything else I will be sure to update you.

-Patrick

Damn, was hoping for a lot for our old OBD1's.

Is there anyway you could tell me if it could diagnose the source of the ABS + ASC lights on the dash (I've heard that there are about 5 different things that can cause this combo and the dealer can tell with their scan tool)? I'm trying to decide if it's worth it to spend $140 at the dealer once or $150 for the cable :dunno

If you can't decipher this possibility would you be able to list what carsoft can do on our OBD1's (every site I look at explains only OBD2 in detail!)? I asked this same question in the E36 forum but had to let the thread die after 4 bumps :(.

Thanks again Patrick
:drink1

I'm re-interested in this lol.

I'm working on building a cable for my jetta so I can get real time diagnostics and I kept coming across this stuff.

I can't find this out, but does anyone know if carsoft is compatilbe with ELM cables? I found a ton of good info on building them, and other free software that works with them. But I have OBDI and I am going to NEED to use carsoft.

No, this is not what the delaerships use. They use BMWs factory tool which is the GT1 and now there newest system. These are FAR FAR FAR FAR more powerful then Carsoft.

FWIW I found carsoft will NOT work with ELM cables. There is a done of decent tools on www.scantools.net and the elm232 is easy to build. I might whip one of them up for my jetta since its all I need.

I think I will build a carsoft 3.4 cable for my e30 though. Its OBDI which works for me but sucks for you guys. I still can't find a 6.5 schematic. From what I have vaugly read 6.1 will work with a KKL cable though. Which I can find to make/buy cheaper.

What year Jetta do you have? I have a cable that works with my Ross-Tech software. Maybe a trade could be worked out for something that would work on my 2001.

No, ELM or other OBDII cables will not work with CarSoft. Spare yourself the time. It's a special 20pin and the 16 pin solution is not OBDII. So any thing that wasn't designed to support BMW will never work. Since CarSoft probably uses proprietary cabling (there is no such thing as standards proprietary equipment) I seriously doubt you can just plug another cable inline and it will work--again unless it was intended for this.

People purchase the cheap ELM stuff and try that with our products all the time. The question always come in the form of, "My ELM doesn't work. Can you help."

Besides we blow their coverage out of the water. Why bother. ;)

What year Jetta do you have? I have a cable that works with my Ross-Tech software. Maybe a trade could be worked out for something that would work on my 2001.

96, just got the cutoff for OBDII :) Is ross-tech vag-com compliant? My buddy bought a cheapo vag-com cable on ebay a while back. No surprise it didn't work. I don't have anything that will read an 01, except my peake for BMW I guess.

No, ELM or other OBDII cables will not work with CarSoft. Spare yourself the time. It's a special 20pin and the 16 pin solution is not OBDII. So any thing that wasn't designed to support BMW will never work. Since CarSoft probably uses proprietary cabling (there is no such thing as standards proprietary equipment) I seriously doubt you can just plug another cable inline and it will work--again unless it was intended for this.

People purchase the cheap ELM stuff and try that with our products all the time. The question always come in the form of, "My ELM doesn't work. Can you help."

Besides we blow their coverage out of the water. Why bother. ;)

I know carsoft is proprietary, I was hoping there would be a crack to make other cables work. The carsoft software just reads the info off the cable to see if its carsoft or not. I did find there was a stipulation with the addressing though between BMW and other OBDII vehicles.

Anyways, the OBDI cable should work with 3.4. So I'm gonna give that a crack, its only a few bucks in parts and I probably have most of it laying around. I just need to figure out where they think the VCC is coming from.

As for a 6.5 cable, the only schematics I have found are super complex, and I debate if they are even for carsoft. They sure as hell don't look like it.

The the ELM stuff like I was saying will work fine on my jetta, which I also need a reader for. Its just the standard ISO 9141, and the elm323 chip works fine and is cheap enough.

If anyone wanted to build something to support newers VW with CAN the elm327 is also easy enough to build.

96, just got the cutoff for OBDII :) Is ross-tech vag-com compliant? My buddy bought a cheapo vag-com cable on ebay a while back. No surprise it didn't work. I don't have anything that will read an 01, except my peake for BMW I guess. The Ross-Tech product is VAG-com. I used this software and cable on my '99 Passat.

If you have a laptop with a serial port, we could activate it on your machine and if it works I would trade for a BMW tool or take $70. I paid $170 for it.

Hello,

where can I get Version 3.4?

Thanks a lot!

Carsoft SUCKS.

There is a schematic, board plan and hex code for the adapter posted to the forum in my signature link.

Carsoft won't do much but read failure codes. It is near worthless.

I use carsoft 6.5 succesfully on a number of cars, but better on 1996>2002 cars. Carsoft is designed for comms port connection which most notebooks no longer have. I tried a USB-Comms adapter, with poor result. I use a PCMCIA to RS-232 adapter and its very reliable.

In addition to my previous post. As well as reading codes, Carsoft often suggests possible causes and test procedures. My version allows adaption of DME and AGS, programming selectable function, Sync of EWS and DME, live data for DME and EGS. This is a workshop level diagnostic tool.

Yeah it does those things but everything it does is extremely crippled.

I could not get troubleshooting information or meaningful descriptions for all modules. Sometimes it only dumps 1-2 word descriptions or just the failure code number. Like for my E34 IHKR.

I could not get live data on every DME I tried it on. Further, I could not get live data for many other modules.

It does have some recoding and function activation, but these too are very limited and almost none of them were interesting to me.

Maybe I am just holding a grudge because they are selling this thing for thousands of dollars (pirated versions aren't that expensive of course, which seems to be how everyone is getting theirs.) But honestly carsoft is at the bottom of the barrel. I thought it was neat too when I had nothing else!

What do you have now?

See the forum at my website. There are interface plans for carsoft 6.5 posted there, and also plans for other interfaces.

Agreed,

Carsoft is crap, it's the equilvent of that 100$ OBD-2 hand held tool you see at walmart. Only for diagnosing and clearing codes.

Carsoft 6.5 is crap. even you made the interface it checks the hardlock programmed in Atmel micro proc.

So what are the other options?

Greetings all I have recently go myself a carsoft 6.5 kit ie the interface and cables but have not been able to get it working and was wondering if there is something in the procedure that I seem to be missing.

I have tried using several laptops thinking that the problem could be the computers I havew been using one run on vista while the other run on xp but neither one could recognize an external device as being attacheed to it so I am wondering if there is some special software I should run on my comp before it can work. Any one with the formula please fill me in on this one as I am getting abit frustrated at te moment.

I know the original carsoft came with a cd that had the drivers etc but this cracked ones how do we get them to run? I have not used any of my laptops before with carsoft so I am imagining there is something that I have missed out.

Please get me any info on this and will be highly appreciated.

Thanks and waiting for any reponse from anyone out there.

Regards from Sunday O

Here is my review about BMW Carsoft 6.5 (it is not that crap after all):
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=876392

pasoft1.36 interface you want & carsoft .if you want links to good hardware just ask & its cheap also

Can you PM me the links. Thanks.

i bought the chinese interface @ e-bay and it worked for me, cleared all faults except AIR-BAG... the problem was when using an OBD1 car as to it has less functions and did not comunicate with ABS / AIRBAG module. That was too bad, you see, my ABS locks up and airbag is lit up, so I thought this could be the end of my problems

Hi pedro05 I was checking your report on the carsoft package you got from China and thoght that was a better start than mine.I recently got myself a kit as well but I cannot get it to work on any laptop i try I am told I need to load onto my laptop several files which were not supplied together with the kit.Can you advise me on that so that I know where I stand on this one. At the moment I am just frustrated because the laptop does not even recognize the kit as an additional device etc.Have I missed an important step in the setting up I thought it was simply plug and play but maybe I need to install something more in the form of drivers or some additional s/ware for it to work .Please advice.

Sunday O

Hello fellas, I see you're having troubles with Carsoft. You see, the products from China they're not the same quality. That's why one product works with ABS another doesn't. You simply didn't as good product as I did. But you can PM me and I'll try to help you out. I am pretty good with computers.
Sunday O, I think you're having problems with COM (RS232) port. Do you have that port or you're using USB adapter? Have you tried to go to Diagnosis Data->Setting and switch to COM2, COM3 or COM4 ports?

i bought the chinese interface @ e-bay and it worked for me, cleared all faults except AIR-BAG... the problem was when using an OBD1 car as to it has less functions and did not comunicate with ABS / AIRBAG module. That was too bad, you see, my ABS locks up and airbag is lit up, so I thought this could be the end of my problems

It has to work well with ABS and AIRBAG modules (they're 2 different modules). Are you sure you followed this:
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t30/djgenius10/DIYs/Carsoft/4.jpg

What is going on with the group buy?

I too bught into the Carsoft kit, so I thought....Found it on Ebay was fairly certain the seller Alfa bid was reputable. When I got the package..no instrutions, when I donwloaded the EXE file I didn't see the handgrenade word document describing the Crack file cut and paste. A freind of mine worked very hard to get it to work, I could use some of the functions but still working on. If it makes anyone feel better I called the real company in Belgium at 4:00am his time, he was rather grumpy, then I and he learned my inquiry was not logit as he told me CARSOFT has no us distributors, therefore buy at your own risk on ebay, I kinda wondered with the Chineese subscript.......

Let me know if anyone has had luck with it, other wise goes with ancient ATARI games as amusing and laughable.

B

I too bught into the Carsoft kit, so I thought....Found it on Ebay was fairly certain the seller Alfa bid was reputable. When I got the package..no instrutions, when I donwloaded the EXE file I didn't see the handgrenade word document describing the Crack file cut and paste. A freind of mine worked very hard to get it to work, I could use some of the functions but still working on. If it makes anyone feel better I called the real company in Belgium at 4:00am his time, he was rather grumpy, then I and he learned my inquiry was not logit as he told me CARSOFT has no us distributors, therefore buy at your own risk on ebay, I kinda wondered with the Chineese subscript.......

Let me know if anyone has had luck with it, other wise goes with ancient ATARI games as amusing and laughable.

B
What sort of instruction do you want, my friend? How to test your car?:confused

Where can we get 7.1?