Twinscrew e36 M3
Twinscrew M coupe
Active Supercharged e46 M3
s54 M coupe

Ahh, All are good. More to it than just bolting some power on. Not to mention you never listed any turbo powered cars...

I'd figure turbo power cars aren't good for road course. At least that's what a lot of people in here would say compared to twinscrew.

I'd figure turbo power cars aren't good for road course. At least that's what a lot of people in here would say compared to twinscrew.

None of the above.... 74 Chevelle

For how many laps? :D

Twinscrew e36 M3
Twinscrew M coupe
Active Supercharged e46 M3
s54 M coupe

useless

Twinscrew e36 M3
Twinscrew M coupe
Active Supercharged e46 M3
s54 M coupe


Dude.

Go big or go home.

which ever of those cars you listed is red. although if there are more then 1 red one which ever is the shinyest

Dude.

Go big or go home.

:lol :lol

I have no idea why that is so funny to me. Hi-La-Rious!

Edit: So what would that be called? A Firanello? Marantiac? :D

I would go against any of those cars in my car and would bet I would either be ahead or right with them.

Basically, nobody answers the question.
I'll take either M3, specially it it's Laguna Blue.

i like the white one.

seriously, i would pick the one with the least engine mods for the sake of reliability. (if it can break, it will eventually)

i like the white one.

seriously, i would pick the one with the least engine mods for the sake of reliability. (if it can break, it will eventually)


ding ding ding!!

WINNER!!!!!!!!!!!!


:redspot

Dude.

Go big or go home.hilarious! shaker hood FTW!

i like the white one.

seriously, i would pick the one with the least engine mods for the sake of reliability. (if it can break, it will eventually)

This guy knows his stuff. Except when he trying to go sideways at the Point!

Dude.

Go big or go home.

Your response should have been GO GAY OR GO HOME because you're definitely a fag. What is that ugly ass ferrarri doing in your files?

i like the white one.

seriously, i would pick the one with the least engine mods for the sake of reliability. (if it can break, it will eventually)

I'm not basing it on reliablility. The question is very simple, yet nobody can answer it right. I'm obviously basing it on horsepower and weight of the car. Maybe even include the handling potential of it.

...The question is very simple, yet nobody can answer it right.....

Ahhh, let it now be known that you're looking for your right answer. What do you want it to be? :rolleyes

quote "Maybe even include the handling potential of it."

I run lap times comparible to street cars with over twice the hp of my track car. If you basing this hypothetical comparison based on lap times around a road course, you should know that handling is far and away the #1 factor.

If you are not basing it on reliability, just the hp and weight as you said, you just described drag racing.

This guy knows his stuff. Except when he trying to go sideways at the Point!
you may have me corn-fused with somebody else. unless you speak of the eye-opening experience on jefferson in the rain. (rain rookie)
so far my only spin at the track.

Your response should have been GO GAY OR GO HOME because you're definitely a fag. What is that ugly ass ferrarri doing in your files?

Say what?

Based on the shear number of turbocharged cars I see at the track, mainly Porsche, but some Rx7's. I think a properly set up turbo car is fine for the track. I know my Miata under boost feels like it has a large motor and no lag whatsoever once you are above 3500rpm. On track I never drop below 3500rpm in the M3. I have my turbo for the M3 sized to make broad flat power not some HUGE hit of boost like a Supra single set up, or a peaky AA turbo car.

I looked into a TS unit but after some research I decided until more people have them, and track them. I would go the turbo route. One thing I found with the TS setup it seems other car brands using TS have belt problems over 12psi of boost. I went to several errr other forums and lurked around for information...

I spent the same for my current setup, and will have far more for the money. Tec3r, Racelogic, Stoptech brakes, nice turbo system, all for what the TS would have cost.

In the end it all boils down to what you are looking for. If you have stock suspension, and brakes, adding power is a complete waste. Do EVERY suspenssion modification you can, upgrade the brakes, then add power...

Is it further to Cleveland or by bus?

Twinscrew e36 M3
Twinscrew M coupe
Active Supercharged e46 M3
s54 M coupe

If you're a noob, your best bet for learing to not suck at driving is to go with the slower car.

Is it further to Cleveland or by bus?
:lol
i would have to say yes.

I would go with an e36 m3 fully gutted with s54 motor swap. Great chassis and good power with stock reliability.

I would go with an e36 m3 fully gutted with s54 motor swap. Great chassis and good power with stock reliability.

Why not the s54 M coupe? Is there a great difference between the chassis of the e36 M3 and the M coupe? So I guess I'm going to slash off the e46 M3.

Jeez, you own both an M3 and an M Coupe and aren't aware of the difference in the rear suspension?? The M Coupe has a semi-trailing arm rear suspension, an E30-based, 1980's era design. Strong but unsophisticated. The E36 has a more modern multi-link rear suspension.

Neil

Jeez, you own both an M3 and an M Coupe and aren't aware of the difference in the rear suspension?? The M Coupe has a semi-trailing arm rear suspension, an E30-based, 1980's era design. Strong but unsophisticated. The E36 has a more modern multi-link rear suspension.

Neil


LOL...and he is ragging on me for that funny Ferrari picture?

Pffftttt....

...Pffftttt....

That would be the sound emanating from your avatar? :D

Lol...

Jeez, you own both an M3 and an M Coupe and aren't aware of the difference in the rear suspension?? The M Coupe has a semi-trailing arm rear suspension, an E30-based, 1980's era design. Strong but unsophisticated. The E36 has a more modern multi-link rear suspension.

Neilgive him a break, he's only been here a couple of years ... :D

sportcarm3, please stop trying to bring this back on topic, it's WAY funnier off topic.

give him a break, he's only been here a couple of years ... :D

sportcarm3, please stop trying to bring this back on topic, it's WAY funnier off topic.


LMAO...agreed!!

:alright

Dude.

Go big or go home.

That Ferrari is awesome...... I should put a decal of the trans-am bird on the hood of my racecar..... :D

Hahahaaa! Here is a different one, from the reverse angle, yo.

Jeez, you own both an M3 and an M Coupe and aren't aware of the difference in the rear suspension?? The M Coupe has a semi-trailing arm rear suspension, an E30-based, 1980's era design. Strong but unsophisticated. The E36 has a more modern multi-link rear suspension.

Neil

So I'm assuming you picked the M coupe based on looks. Cause obviously the M3 is more practical and if it has a better rear suspension. I don't see why someone would pick the M coupe besides looks then.

Hahahaaa! Here is a different one, from the reverse angle, yo.

Now that's funny, but the hawk was just pure gay.

so far my only spin at the track.


You need to try harder then.

So I'm assuming you picked the M coupe based on looks. Cause obviously the M3 is more practical and if it has a better rear suspension. I don't see why someone would pick the M coupe besides looks then.


Is that why you chose the M Coupe, sweet cheeks?

Is that why you chose the M Coupe, sweet cheeks?

If you learn how to read, I happen to have both.

You need to try harder then.
not saying i have'nt been off lots of times, just never left the track sideways or backward except for that one time. i'm not shy about driving on the grass (not really proud that i've needed it lots of times, usually at track out)

I'd figure turbo power cars aren't good for road course. At least that's what a lot of people in here would say compared to twinscrew.
Then those people are fools.

Well sorted cars are where its at. erm, I mean, well sorted turbo car FTW.

There are NO twin screw road race cars that I can think of, even where rules would allow them. Also turbo > NA, as proven time and time again by the LMP car. More torque, less peaky, better gas mileage, and lasts longer (more reliable).

any other questions?

Then those people are fools.

Well sorted cars are where its at. erm, I mean, well sorted turbo car FTW.

There are NO twin screw road race cars that I can think of, even where rules would allow them. Also turbo > NA, as proven time and time again by the LMP car. More torque, less peaky, better gas mileage, and lasts longer (more reliable).

Of course, one must keep in mind that these are race motors built with turbocharging in mind. That doesn't really apply to sticking a turbo "kit" on a mostly stock S52 or S54 and calling it a reliable track toy. Sure, strengthen some components, bump the compression down, add some cooling, etc and you'll have a more powerful and more reliable BMW, but that's not what most folks are asking about when they want to know what works on track and what doesn't. The key is the term "well sorted" which generally doesn't apply to most club racing cars, much less track cars.

actually I was leaning more on the TT kit rather than the twinscrew. I just didn't want those supercharge people to start saying turbo cars suck at the track, blah blah blah. It's really annoying. Pretty much i'm debating on a turbo e36 M3 or the active supercharged e46 M3. Nobody has really mention the e46 M3 so I guess it's e36 built motor turbo M3 for me or maybe the ferrarri with a bird.

If you learn how to read, I happen to have both.

No shit, sherlock.

So I'm assuming you picked the M coupe based on looks. Cause obviously the M3 is more practical and if it has a better rear suspension. I don't see why someone would pick the M coupe besides looks then.

Pretty much true. The first time I saw an M Coupe I knew that I would someday own one. I like that it's unique (if not odd) and a bit raw. Definitely trickier at limit than the M3, but I like that too.

Neil

you may have me corn-fused with somebody else. unless you speak of the eye-opening experience on jefferson in the rain. (rain rookie)
so far my only spin at the track.

Actually, I was just kidding. I had you as a student on the skid pad. You were doing just fine!

Pretty much true. The first time I saw an M Coupe I knew that I would someday own one. I like that it's unique (if not odd) and a bit raw. Definitely trickier at limit than the M3, but I like that too.

Neil

Your car's handling is not at all what I would describe as tricky - not anymore at least.

I can think of one reason to pick the M Coupe over the M3. It starts out lighter.