ok this was me and my buddy it was from 0-150mph. we started off and i had him about 1 car 1/2 till 130-140mph then he started 2 pass me...then he let off at 150mph. we both are 6 speed. hes stock (350z) im dropped cold air intake.

then we did it again i spun the whole first gear. he was at my door the whole way till 3rd then we stopped.... but im sure he would of passed me again..

what upgrade should i do gearing???? i wanan beat him..


i thought these things are a beast on the highway (540i 6 speed 99)

yea when compared to the e36 M3 but the 350Z has more hp then a 540 and is lighter probably has better drag coefficent aswell your lucky he doesnt get you out the hole, with a proper launch he should. I say leave the gearing alone and get some more bolts on and see where that leaves you......

o ya dam....... what kinda boltons exhaust??

o ya dam....... what kinda boltons exhaust??

I'm not familiar with 540 mods but im sure theres more then just exhaust. I think the biggest issue is weight, if you could somhow lighten the car a bit it would really help. Software also might help a bit and maybe if you do gearing you can get the final drive from the M5 if it is different?

I dunno my buddy has 350z aswell and man do i love driving that thing handling is just amazing in that car.... but the ride isnt very comfortable and its kind of small so don't sweat it much your still faster than him in his "sports car" and these two car are worlds apart in what thier meant for yet thier still very comparable in performance.....

don't sweat it much your still faster than him in his "sports car" .....


Well not in this race he wasnt:rolleyes

Anyways, Im very surprised he pulled on you up top. Thats where your v8 should shine. Every other kill story of a 540 against a 350 the 540 always destroys the Z. Maybe you should get your car checked out? I always thought a 540 would spank me but maybe I have a chance:eek:

get it checked out??????? no lights on etc. ????????? i got 73k on it.. i just bought it. help! lol....

were you shifting above say at least 5000 rpm, staying in the sweet spot?

does the 540 have a top speed governor? maybe that is y he started beating u up top...

start with some software if you haven't already and then start throwing out weight (eisenhaus race exhaust saves ~30lbs, lighter rims ~15lbs of rotational mass, take out rear seats ect.) That should help a lot :D .

Well not in this race he wasnt:rolleyes

Anyways, Im very surprised he pulled on you up top. Thats where your v8 should shine. Every other kill story of a 540 against a 350 the 540 always destroys the Z. Maybe you should get your car checked out? I always thought a 540 would spank me but maybe I have a chance:eek:

umm ok he was untill about 140 by more then a few car lenths at that, although if look at torque curves of both cars you see why the Z would win up top, it produces more torque up top then the 540 and actually hp#s are the same. I guess it would have to with that and the drag coeffecient.

yea, on top is where u should have shined a bit more!

start with some software if you haven't already and then start throwing out weight (eisenhaus race exhaust saves ~30lbs, lighter rims ~15lbs of rotational mass, take out rear seats ect.) That should help a lot :D .

300hp V8, 100lbs is not going to make much of a difference...

Gearing will help you a lot. Your car should in stock form take a 350z, improve on your driving and shifting.

damn, where did you guys race? I'm guessing a track right? not a lot of places I can think of that you can go from dead stop to 130mph. Unless you pulled over to the side of the high way

we did it on rt 295. we just stoped it was like 1:00AM.

my shifting was at redline in each gear. i think im a good driver but u neva know....

i thought these things are a beast on the highway (540i 6 speed 99)


A T78 Supra is a beast on the highway, not a 540/6 with an intake ;)

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The hard facts for the two cars in question are very alike and it would simply come down to the driver. Period. You have a low 14 second car(your average joe, not Michael Schumacher as the wheelman) trapping in the 100-101mph range, as does his car(best I've seen at the track for a stock 350Z was a 13.7@101mph).

It's a driver's race ... for all those claiming stock on stock the 540 should win, obviously don't know what either car is capable of with the right wheelman.

Case in point,
My uncle used to own a 540/6 with just an intake. He ran a 13.8@102mph on one of the best tracks here in Maryland(he's been dragging for many, many years ... in other words, not your average joe). The same track, same day, two stock Z's ran, one went 14.1@101 and the other ran a 13.8@100. Both of these cars are on spot as far as straight line acceleration, it's all about the driver.

a pair of garret T28 would help you beat him:D:D:D

you should have KILLED him.

I rocked a 350 Z tonight on the highway and my M3 is stock.

I've also been in the car when my buddy in his 98 540 6 speed rocked a G35 Coupe

(98 pre-vanos)

some video from that day

http://www.mitchelrlewis.com/movies/mattkins.wmv

I pull on 350z in my e30.














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i guess im a bad driver :(....

i guess im a bad driver :(....

No no no, well maybe:D

In all honesty, check out the little things.

Spark plugs, wires, injectors, clogged cats etc etc etc.....

I agree though, a new exhaust and chip will save you weight and add good power

you should have KILLED him.

I rocked a 350 Z tonight on the highway and my M3 is stock.

I've also been in the car when my buddy in his 98 540 6 speed rocked a G35 Coupe

(98 pre-vanos)

some video from that day

http://www.mitchelrlewis.com/movies/mattkins.wmv

what kind of exhaust is on that 540 ???

ok this was me and my buddy it was from 0-150mph. we started off and i had him about 1 car 1/2 till 130-140mph then he started 2 pass me...then he let off at 150mph. we both are 6 speed. hes stock (350z) im dropped cold air intake.

then we did it again i spun the whole first gear. he was at my door the whole way till 3rd then we stopped.... but im sure he would of passed me again..

what upgrade should i do gearing???? i wanan beat him..


i thought these things are a beast on the highway (540i 6 speed 99)

If both cars perform similarly in the 0 to 100mph range (even if you beat him by 1-2 cls by then), then there is no doubt that above 100 the 350Z will have a clear advantage. Even without looking at any numbers just look at the frontal area of the 350Z, it has got to have a LOT less drag than the 540.
Above 130 you never had a chance. Nothing wrong with your car.

funny thing...I had my first encounter with a 350z this past friday. we did a 40 mph roll on and 2 dead digs. all 3 times we were dead even untill 4th when i started to pull, and by 5th i had him by a car length or so. I was shifting so hard though the the tires were chirping the 2nd to 3rd shift. for the dead digs I launched at 2k with the asc on. just a little bit of spin and chirp and it makes the car hook up. asc is a band aid for us not having a limited slip. for what its worth. I'm stock and the 350z had an intake, and a full cat back exhaust.

If both cars perform similarly in the 0 to 100mph range (even if you beat him by 1-2 cls by then), then there is no doubt that above 100 the 350Z will have a clear advantage. Even without looking at any numbers just look at the frontal area of the 350Z, it has got to have a LOT less drag than the 540.
Above 130 you never had a chance. Nothing wrong with your car.

Funny. I've heard that the 350z is not as strong north of 105.

:help

Edit: E34 or E39
:shifty

I would like to think I could mop up a 350z on the highway. I have lost to 1 though that had intake, pulleys and exhasut. We went 3 times from 60-130. Everytime I jumped a half car and when I hit third at about 80 he would start inching up and by 130 he had made up the distance and even put a half car length on me :help

Friday night a 350z was next to me on the highway and he gunned it witout warning. By the time I saw he was going he had a few cls on me. I punched it and started gaining real fast before we came to traffic.

Any of you 540's ever raced a 99/01 Cobra?

I'd bet dollars to donuts that the 540i and 350z are a lot closer of a match than one would gather by reading all the kill stories on this site. Here, the E36 M3 always beats the 350z and, of course, the 540i slaughters it....go to a Z site and the results are exactly the opposite (350Z triumphs).
On paper the 350Z is a match for the 540i/6 at speed and stronger than the M3. I am guessing this is pretty close to the truth. Just have to weed through the (understandable) BMW bias around here.
PS: gearing will, by far, be your best bang for buck mod.

I hate to mag race, but here's an interesting graph from, I believe, a '97 0-150-0 shootout in C&D:
http://www4.ncsu.edu/~lichides/images/0-150-0.jpg
All the cars in question are 6-speed manuals with the exception of the XJR.

I'd bet dollars to donuts that the 540i and 350z are a lot closer of a match than one would gather by reading all the kill stories on this site. Here, the E36 M3 always beats the 350z and, of course, the 540i slaughters it....go to a Z site and the results are exactly the opposite (350Z triumphs).
On paper the 350Z is a match for the 540i/6 at speed and stronger than the M3. I am guessing this is pretty close to the truth. Just have to weed through the (understandable) BMW bias around here.
PS: gearing will, by far, be your best bang for buck mod.


I agree with you. I really dont see how these e36 M's are beating the 350z's. I got slaughtered in my m3 with i/e against a stock 350z. My only guess is maybe just poor drivers on the 350z's part when they lose to an m?

My only guess is maybe just poor drivers on the 350z's part when they lose to an m?

Or, no one ever really posts about, or even admits to, losing. So the winners post in their respective boards, and all the children reading the story fail to account that, on the streets, ANYTHING can happen.

stock for stock e36 M vs 350z manual is a drivers race till about the end of 3rd. after that the Z has power, gearing, and aero advantge!! People who beat Z's either race autotragics or just think the other person is race cause the Z's exhaust is very loud. Oddly enough I've raced many 350Z's even in the quarter mile and with bolt-ons, I've won everytime. But my friends Z(this guy can drive) i can't beat anywhere..... Also havent raced a Z above 120+...

what should i do for a exhaust i like the sprint sounds clean.. should i emove the cats etc.. what kinda chip/software??????

I Suck AT Driving Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I Forgot I Had On More Gear..... 6TH










Im J/king Lol...

Killa, work on your spelling by not posting drunk,,,,,It's okay, we have all done it at one time or another!

Get the gears changed from the 2.81's to 3.15's. The cost with labor should between 1,200-1,500. This is the best bang for your buck. You will notice a difference. You will have much more pull. Then change the exhaust, CAI and Dinian download.

Killa, work on your spelling by not posting drunk,,,,,It's okay, we have all done it at one time or another!

I agree with David. Get off the crack pipe while typing son.;)

You should've killed him on the high speeds - may be there is something wrong with Your car?

I have a 98 iA with no mods and killed G35c on the highway with ease from about 80 to 140 I passed him and change the lane to get in fron of him without cutting him off I had at least 2-3CL between us

what kind of exhaust is on that 540 ???

It's custom =P

It's SICK now with the resonators out

You should've killed him on the high speeds - may be there is something wrong with Your car?

I have a 98 iA with no mods and killed G35c on the highway with ease from about 80 to 140 I passed him and change the lane to get in fron of him without cutting him off I had at least 2-3CL between us

In all fairness though the 350z is much faster than the G35. I wouldnt think backseats would make such a huge difference in performance between the 2.

Best, most cost efficient mod for a 540 6spd is to get yourself a 3.15 rear end out of a sport model auto.

really is it betta then the m5 rear end?????

really is it betta then the m5 rear end?????

Without knowing the answer to that question..id assume it is more cost efficient though.

The M5 has the LSD diff. You can get an open diff or a Limited Slip (LSD). The LSD is a lot more money (Maybe $4k-5K) than the open ($800-1,200K) . I am not an expert but the LSD supplies power to both back tires which means better traction. The open diff supplies power to one tire in the back that has the best traction. If your car is stock 6 speed you have a 2.81 open diff.

If you have the money or putting in a SC then go LSD diff. If not the open diff is fine with the 3.15 gears. The LSD will just provide much better traction.

The best thing to do first to a 540 6 speed IMO is the 3.15 gears. You will have a lot more pull.

Then go to an exhaust, Dinan download and CAI and you will have a quick moving car.

o ok got u thanx.... i already have the dinan cai idk about the download. i bought he car with it... i'll diff looking into the diff tho.... is it just a bolt in and out? same axles etc... pm me

It's custom =P

It's SICK now with the resonators out


is it dual cans one ?? or .....

i havent had the pleasure of running a 540 yet

I ran that same 540 in that vid. we haven't done it from a complete stop yet

We didn't a 2nd gear pull, we both had our cars packed and I pulled on him pretty hard,

before that when I first got my car, we did a highway run and we were DEAD even and shut down at 120ish.

his car is my current benchmark.

I ran that same 540 in that vid. we haven't done it from a complete stop yet

We didn't a 2nd gear pull, we both had our cars packed and I pulled on him pretty hard,

before that when I first got my car, we did a highway run and we were DEAD even and shut down at 120ish.

his car is my current benchmark.


stock for stock, drivers being equal, the 540i/6 will pull the e36 m3. the m3 will get ahead in the launch from a dig, but by 2nd gear the 540i should be even, then begin walking during 3rd gear.

not saying you didnt stay dead even or pull or yada yada, just stating that it shouldnt happen with equal drivers...were talking about a car that traps 97-99 vs a car that traps 101-102.:D

Mattkins99 on this board will verify...he didn't want to race me last night, lol.

Interesting. I raced a 350Z a couple months ago. It was a stupid thing to do being that my clutch was shot at the time. We were both in the racing "mode" so to say one person wasn't racing would be false, but when the light turned green, I let him hit it from the start, I eased into it. Not like I had a choice. Then I stepped into it, clutch was slipping badly, but I was gaining on him pretty quickly. From the start he probably gained a car length or so on me, then at the end of second I had caught up to his rear bumper. I passed him up through 3rd.

We come up to another stoplight and he's behind me. I take it easy, and he pulls into the lane next to me and tries to pass. I step into it and it doesn't take much for me to stay even with him. Another light comes up. He manages to get in front of me due to traffic situations. He guns it once again. I take it easy once again, then step into it and am pretty much right on his rear the whole time, having to hold back obviously so I don't rear end him...

I posted a thread in here about it, so I'm sure its still there...for a more detailed account I guess you could search for it...I'm sure it could have been a bad driver, because my clutch was slipping badly and I shouldn't have beaten him so badly, but then again, I could've been underestimating my car too at the time. Nothing special done to my car...Dinan CAI and Dinan software...I also have 19" M-pars which I would think do their part in slowing me down from a dig, so yea. I'm pretty confident my car can take 350Z's, but I think at the time I had an encounter with a bad driver.

Oh, btw, while the 350Z has more hp (in some cases...obviously depends on the year/model), it also has significantly less torque. And you know what they say, horse power sells cars, torque wins races. ;)