So tonight my buddy came up to work and wanted to race me real bad and so i let him know when i got out of work. So he met me up as i was leaving work and we went out to a road where there are just factories and not alot of people drive. A little bit of dust was on the road, that was the only bad thing. So he wanted to go from a roll becuase he has an automatic (dont think those come in standard), but i said no and we raced twice from stop and i just tore him up off of the line. So we did the way that he wanted to go (in second gear), so we did and again i took him twice; this time a lil closer though. So we decided that we needed a longer road so that he could really utilize his v-tec in the high rpm's. So we hit up the side road by my house next to the freeway and threw it down two more times and hit 125mph before running out of room. And yet again, i surcomed the odds and took him.:stickoutt Now my car isnt stock, but not heavily modded. My car is a 1996 BMW 328is and has my 9" k&n intake that i made from work with homemade heat box, UUC catback exhaust, lightweight flywheel and ceramic clutch, with my heavy Giovanni chrome 18's. He was rollin in his 2002 Acura 3.2TL type S (which i assume stands for slow now, jk), with his cold air intake down in his bumper, and his week old apexi dual exhaust. Supposibly he was pushing like 270hp or something like that, idk what the car comes with stock. Anyone know?????:confused Now i have dynoed my car and hit 196hp 192ft.lbs. at the wheels. I ran a 14.626 at the track for my first time with bad traction, he supposibly ran a 14.3. Sooooo.....idk. So he should have taken me but yet i won!!!!!!!!!!!:redspot So yet i still love my car sooooo much and it makes me proud to see her win again!

He must've been nervous. Combine that with WWD (wrong wheel drive), and that will mess anyone up. :stickoutt

Actually I have no idea what I'm talking about. He must be having car problems, probably due to his constant flogging.

He must've been nervous. Combine that with WWD (wrong wheel drive), and that will mess anyone up. :stickoutt

Actually I have no idea what I'm talking about. He must be having car problems, probably due to his constant flogging.

No his car was good, i check it out myself being the part mechanic that i am!!! He claimed to beat a new M3, but i think that driver was messin around with him. Its kinda hard for him to mess up, i mean, he just hits the gas, thats it! Automatic is kinda hard to mess up when rolling from second.

I have raced and pulled on 2 e36 M's before and won. Also a prelude with various engine work. My friends gsr with alot of work. I am just happy with my torque curve and what not. It was a good curve on the dyno machine! I think over 120, those cars with their vtec etc would start pullin me.

It really couldnt be driver error on his part, since it was an automatic.. It isint too difficult to mash the gas pedal and steer straight.

I have raced and pulled on 2 e36 M's before and won. Also a prelude with various engine work. My friends gsr with alot of work. I am just happy with my torque curve and what not. It was a good curve on the dyno machine! I think over 120, those cars with their vtec etc would start pullin me.


what mods do you have?

Combine that with WWD (wrong wheel drive)
:lol



No his car was good, i check it out myself being the part mechanic that i am!!! He claimed to beat a new M3, but i think that driver was messin around with him. Its kinda hard for him to mess up, i mean, he just hits the gas, thats it! Automatic is kinda hard to mess up when rolling from second.


Yeah there is NO way he could take a new M3. Just let him think he won so he can be happy :)

I have raced and pulled on 2 e36 M's before and won. Also a prelude with various engine work. My friends gsr with alot of work. I am just happy with my torque curve and what not. It was a good curve on the dyno machine! I think over 120, those cars with their vtec etc would start pullin me.

If you can pull e36 M's then I dont think any TL would be able to take you.

wow u put down 196hp and 192tq to the wheels with an intake, exhaust, and clutch/flywheel setup, thats good...so how many cars would u say u put on him?

Alot of those with more than 50K miles on those Type-S have ran into problems with the butterfly valves in the dual-resonance manifold. It could mean the difference between a 95mph trap and a 90mph trap for them.

Also, once they reach 4th gear at around 115mph (if left in drive) or 120mph (if you're using SS and kissing the rev limiter), its like they hit a brick wall. They fall out of VTEC range for awhile and its an O/D gear. It doesn't gain steam until it goes back into wild-cam mode at about 130mph.

sounds like you got yourself a very strong 328is there my friend. it certainly is believable when you consider the Acura was FWD and AUTO ... VERY NICE KILL:redspot

wow u put down 196hp and 192tq to the wheels with an intake, exhaust, and clutch/flywheel setup, thats good...so how many cars would u say u put on him?

Off the bat i would pull about 2 and then once around 60-70 i had 3. The gap would just kinda open and close a little as he would hit vtec and then when i would shift. Mostly i would say 3-4 at the max.

It really couldnt be driver error on his part, since it was an automatic.. It isint too difficult to mash the gas pedal and steer straight.

Ya, not much skill on an auto when your going from second.

what mods do you have?

I put what i had in the original text. My homemade intake and heat shield with a 9" K&N filter. I also relocated the horns and drilled some holes in my brake cooling duct so that it gets a pretty good air flow in there. My UUC catback exhaust, lightweight flywheel and ceramic clutch disc. The clutch mad a big differenc imo, it allows me not to slip like i use to when i would hit it in second. Oh ya, i forgot to mention that i have no carpet or back seat or trunk lining. I am putting down dynomatt all in the car so i took it all out! Im sure that made just a lil difference also! Alot of the guys that i dyno'd with were suprised on the figures that i made and i will be dyno'd again come march, and hopefully put at least 210hp down.

cansomeone explain vtec range

cansomeone explain vtec range

Actually it can vary depending if they have a v-tec controller or not. I think normally its like 4500 rpm or 5000. Something in that range. Correct me if im wrong someone.

6 Speed 3.2 Type S>328iS in a race

Rather own a 328iS though

wow u put down 196hp and 192tq to the wheels with an intake, exhaust, and clutch/flywheel setup, thats good...so how many cars would u say u put on him?


Those are good dyno numbers.

Dude nice kill, but seriously wtf is up with all these 328is owners claiming that they consistently pull on m3's- and modded ones at that!? I mean you're at a 45-ish crank horsepower advantage right out of the box, I've never raced a 328 but I really find this difficult to believe, are these m3 drivers asleep or is the 328is SERIOUSLY underrated??

Dude nice kill, but seriously wtf is up with all these 328is owners claiming that they consistently pull on m3's- and modded ones at that!? I mean you're at a 45-ish crank horsepower advantage right out of the box, I've never raced a 328 but I really find this difficult to believe, are these m3 drivers asleep or is the 328is SERIOUSLY underrated??

I never said that i raced modded M's. I raced a 4-door M and a 2-door 5spd with exhaust. The guy gave me props after we finished up racing and was curious what i had done becuase he had never seen another bimmer pull like that on him. Im not sure what it is, underratted, better torque curve, idk, but i dont mind at alllll:buttrock

Giovanni's on a e36??? why? sell them and get rims for a bmw, not a cadillac. but besides that i have a friend that is obsessed with type s's, cl's and tl's. and he swears that they can beat any bimmer... so good kill.

Giovanni's on a e36??? why? sell them and get rims for a bmw, not a cadillac. but besides that i have a friend that is obsessed with type s's, cl's and tl's. and he swears that they can beat any bimmer... so good kill.

Ya ya i know, i would have gotten something different if i would have known better at the time. Now i would go with some iforged or something like that. I wasnt as knowledegable(sp) as i am now with my car. Now i love everything BMW and know all of the good companies and what not. If i could get the money that i paid for them, i would probably get some different rims. I like them though, they do look nice imo. Well you can tell your friend that he can talk to my friend about how i whoooped up on em.:D

Giovanni's on a e36??? why? sell them and get rims for a bmw, not a cadillac.

Shortly after i got my rims, i saw them on a diablo on mtv.:eek: So it made me feel good about what i purchased!

please post a dyno sheet and a picture of your car....on the dyno...lol

so you gained 30-40hp with an intake and exhaust on a 3-series??? its no 5.0mustang....therefore....i dont think so.

**your claiming bad traction as your excuse for running a 14.6????? thanks for the laugh....i bet it can really roast those tires with all that torque!!!!

02imolam3 is having a field day ripping apart peoples posts.

why dont you go race a 328 with your hemi? ill be right here waiting for the outcome.

02imolam3 is having a field day ripping apart peoples posts.

why dont you go race a 328 with your hemi? ill be right here waiting for the outcome.


lol...what so funny about that...i told you already....my truck is good for a mid 14 second 1/4...which is either dead even with a 328 or faster since the best times i have seen for a 328 is high 14s.

and the truck is my slowest vehicle and weighs 5600lbs and its STILL just as quick as your 328....LOL

im ripping apart BS...thats all.

lol...what so funny about that...i told you already....my truck is good for a mid 14 second 1/4...which is either dead even with a 328 or faster since the best times i have seen for a 328 is high 14s.

and the truck is my slowest vehicle and weighs 5600lbs and its STILL just as quick as your 328....LOL

im ripping apart BS...thats all.


I think no matter what kind of car i have you will say that you will destroy me. Your like a mustang driver, but worse....

kinda makes me feel bad for that m3 you have.

thats ok...because im selling the M3 as soon as i get a buyer!!!!

hello C6 Z06!

Why dont u just get a mustang? you meet the drivers criteria

I guess youve never read any of my posts on this forum before....

I have a 500rwhp 04 Cobra already.

please post a dyno sheet and a picture of your car....on the dyno...lol

so you gained 30-40hp with an intake and exhaust on a 3-series??? its no 5.0mustang....therefore....i dont think so.

**your claiming bad traction as your excuse for running a 14.6????? thanks for the laugh....i bet it can really roast those tires with all that torque!!!!

Give me a lil bit and i will post it up

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b91/BMW328is/Dyno%20Day/P1000595.jpg

and the dyno sheet please?

if i am correct...the 96 328 had 190 at the crank....so what....145-150 at the wheels?....please show me the sheet that proves your homemade intake and catback exhaust gave you an extra 45rwhp.

Once i get this scanner working i shall show you my dyno runs. You know, its just said when you have to doubt everyone.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b91/BMW328is/Dyno%20Day/P1000594.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b91/BMW328is/Dyno%20Day/P1000645.jpg

You know, if you really want, you can go onto the local bimmer club here and see my car do the quarter mile, even though my reaction time is horrible. lol. Check it out and then call me a liar.


http://www.strictlyea.com/gallery/events2005.html

Im just wondering how an intake and exhaust on a BMW especially....gains 45rwhp!!!!! thats adding about 65hp to the crank.

does that sound right to anyone??? let alone myself.

Once i get this scanner working i shall show you my dyno runs. You know, its just said when you have to doubt everyone.

You know, if you really want, you can go onto the local bimmer club here and see my car do the quarter mile, even though my reaction time is horrible. lol. Check it out and then call me a liar.


http://www.strictlyea.com/gallery/events2005.html

Reaction time has nothing to do with your overall time down the 1/4mile. You could sit there all day and still run the same 14.6 you ran the previous run with a .001 reaction. I don't think he's calling you b.s. on your 1/4mile time, its just hard for anyone here to digest that you actually gained 30rwhp with general intake and exhaust mods.

and the dyno sheet please?

if i am correct...the 96 328 had 190 at the crank....so what....145-150 at the wheels?....please show me the sheet that proves your homemade intake and catback exhaust gave you an extra 45rwhp.

I think E36's with the M52B28's dyno roughly 165rwhp with a 5speed. If he gained as much as he claimed he gained, either his dyno run on the first one is optimistic with no standard correction on a subzero degree day, or his dyno run before the bolt-on's was run on an extremely hot 100degree w/ dew points in the middle 70's with no standard SAE corrections on the final dyno results. :eyecrazy

Reaction time has nothing to do with your overall time down the 1/4mile. You could sit there all day and still run the same 14.6 you ran the previous run with a .001 reaction. I don't think he's calling you b.s. on your 1/4mile time, its just hard for anyone here to digest that you actually gained 30rwhp with general intake and exhaust mods.

No i do relize that the reaction time has nothing to do with it, i was just saying that my reaction time is bad, so excuse the video. When i did my best launch i still had some slipping with the tires. Not sure if its the tires traction or what.

Here is a pic of what all of the cars in our group were getting. Im Brandon, towards the bottom. There are a few other M3's and an R32 that were making good numbers.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b91/BMW328is/Dyno%20Day/dynofigures.jpg

Im just wondering how an intake and exhaust on a BMW especially....gains 45rwhp!!!!! thats adding about 65hp to the crank.

does that sound right to anyone??? let alone myself.

You know, i have no idea how it sounded right either, thats why i was amazed when they told me the numbers. I think you can hear them say how much i dynoed or it shows it or something. Im towards the end of the vid if you want to wait towards the end at the 10min'sih mark. http://www.strictlyea.com/gallery/11132005movies.html

I shall scan the dyno sheet that i have. hld up

Ok, this is the only sheet that they gave me, not sure if adjustments were made or what, all i know is what they told me!!

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b91/BMW328is/Dyno%20Day/dyno_scan.jpg

The dyno guy said that i was running pretty lean also.

a strong 328 can throw down as high as 176hp to the wheels stock,i found myself a strong one... he must have an m50im in it to make up those numberslost he's alot of torque...

most manual 328s do not put 145/150 hp down, they are more in the mid 160s to low 170s, stock. and i will have to agree that it is ridiculous to claim 30rwhp or even crank hp from intake/exhaust/chip mods on any bmw inline 6 motor...they just simply do not respond to mods that well.

either way, i have seen more than one stock timeslip of 328s that are in the 14.4-14.6 range in the 1/4, so take it for what its worth.

a strong 328 can throw down as high as 176hp to the wheels stock,i found myself a strong one... he must have an m50im in it to make up those numberslost he's alot of torque...

I just have my stock intake and everything else then what i listed. Those are the only mods. I cant wait to go to the track again and see what my quarter is and, in March, I believe that we are going to have another dyno day!!!:D

Dude nice kill, but seriously wtf is up with all these 328is owners claiming that they consistently pull on m3's- and modded ones at that!? I mean you're at a 45-ish crank horsepower advantage right out of the box, I've never raced a 328 but I really find this difficult to believe, are these m3 drivers asleep or is the 328is SERIOUSLY underrated??

well from what i've checked, e36 m3 is about 150lbs heavier than e36 328i because we did weigh scale test on my 328i vs my friends e36 m3 & he came out to way more weight, why dont ask me lol...but wieght to weight has a lot to do with it but even though its 40hp difference, 328i are just right below m3 level so its not to huge of a difference, just mainly depends on tires to..

Do you have a base-line dyno by any chance?

Do you have a base-line dyno by any chance?

No, i wish i did. This was the first time i have ever dyno'd my car. I will consider this one my baseline i guess and mod from this one and see what kind of increases i get.

It's 186,43. Not 196 WHP.

Se behind Max power. First run 184 and second 186.

Pretty good though, about 224 HP at the crank.

You really have to get at M50 manifoil. Then the power will rise even after 5500 rpm.

It's 186,43. Not 196 WHP.

Se behind Max power. First run 184 and second 186.

Pretty good though, about 224 HP at the crank.

You really have to get at M50 manifoil. Then the power will rise even after 5500 rpm.

Ya, thats what i said, the guy running the dyno gave me different numbers, maybe a increase do to humidity or something. Not sure, im just going by what he told me. Like i said, March i shall go again.

I (in my e30 stock-engined 325i) raced some frumpy lady in a 3.2 TL off three lights in a row and smoked her three times in a row. She pissed me off by tailgating me (as I did 10-plus over the speed limit) then jerking her car into the right lane to try to pass.

She was spitting fire by the third light and she still couldn't keep up.

Likewise, at a ProSolo autocross event, I did 12 -- count 'em twelve -- Christmas Tree starts against a 2001 (or so) IS300 and had a car length-plus on him to 60ish every time. The course kicked into twistees at that point and so we couldn't "drag" to the speeds where his HPs would kick in ... He was surprised to have become so familiar with my taillights. LOL

I'd like to do an S/M50 conversion and check the sleeper action someday.

D. Hitchcock

Ya i did 14 runs at the local track here. I was wanting a better time each time and soon gave up becuase everyone else left.

BTW, that's quite a nice 328 ... You might have said in your spec list but I didn't notice ... is that Boston Green?

Get some M3 cams to go with that s50 manifold. I have a friend doing the mani swap here on his 328. He's running Dinan intake and catback, Dinan stg 2 software blahblahblah ... It's mighty quick.

D. Hitchcock

6 Speed 3.2 Type S>328iS in a race

Rather own a 328iS though

No such thing...the TL Type-S was 02-03 with the auto/manual transmission. TL's 04-up have 6 speed models available but there is no Type-S model

BTW, that's quite a nice 328 ... You might have said in your spec list but I didn't notice ... is that Boston Green?

Get some M3 cams to go with that s50 manifold. I have a friend doing the mani swap here on his 328. He's running Dinan intake and catback, Dinan stg 2 software blahblahblah ... It's mighty quick.

D. Hitchcock

Yes sirrrr, its Boston Green Metallic. I'm not sure, but im thinkin of sharkin it pretty soon, then cams and what not!

No such thing...the TL Type-S was 02-03 with the auto/manual transmission. TL's 04-up have 6 speed models available but there is no Type-S model

All the 6spd TL/CL-S cars run even with M3's in the 1/4. Low 14 @ 99-101 mph.

From my experiences, my old 02 TL-S was faster than a good friend of mines 98 M3 Auto Sedan. I could consistently put 2 or more car lengths on him from 0-110 mph.

You must have a decently quick 328.