so i was heading to my friends house last night .. and i see this silver SRT10 ahead of me. Since i have a friend that owns one, i accelerate to try and catch up to see if it was him.
When he sees me coming up to him.. he slams the Throttle about a 1/2 CL ahead of me, so i said what the heck, and i went for it..
Since he had started before me he already had almost 2 CL on me.. by the end of 3rd i was catching up, in 4th gear i catched up and passed him..

So i slow down to see if it was my friend and he rolls down the window and it was him.. the look on his face was hilarious, (he didnt know i had this car, i got it less than a week ago) ,he was sooo suprised:stickoutt
He said.. what mods does it have..
I said: CAI, and Exhaust.
He Said: (nothing) :shifty

He took the next exit.. havent heard from him since:D

My car: 325is
Mods: (in my sig)

His car: Ram SRT/10
Mods: CAI, Borla Exhaust

ya comenzaste a hacer escantes! jajaja


nice kill!

ya comenzaste a hacer escantes! jajaja


nice kill!

haha... tu eres el unico en PR que sabe mis Mods.. no digas na! Its our little secret. ( mi carro sta stock;) ) jijiji:devillook

good kill, those trucks are frickin sweet

que es escantes? good kill... make sure to rub it in his face...

escantes is in spanish for the word "mess"

how fast are you running in your hybrid e36? . . .those trucks are damn fast, enough to embarrass most cars.

they have definitly got some ass behind em. Ive never raced one, but i had one hauling ass up behind me between miami and palm beach last weekend. I was in the left lane and punched it as he was about to pass (i went from about 65 to 100) and he never passed my bumper and i pulled a couple of cars. I really wanted to mess around with him but we hit traffic from the giant construction zone on 95 and i lost him in the crowd.

wtf?

500 hp vs 270ish?

how is that possible?

wtf?

500 hp vs 270ish?

how is that possible?
Exactly what I was thinking? :help

Nice Kill. Congrats on the new Car

Is this for real? I call "mierda del toro". Even thought an SRT-10 Ram is about as aerodynamic as a brick wall, it still has a 500hp V10 and you have a 250hp I6.

I am sure he has no reason to lie. But, the numbers don't add up.

Good kill

No way, pure and simple. Those trucks are freight trains until triple digits where their aero sux. An E39 M5 couldn't pull past him the way you described, no way 270ish hp does..... Was your buddy towing a boat filled with gold at the time?!?..:dunno Did he have the tranny in "2" instead of "D"?!? Maybe your bud is quite possibly the worst driver ever....??
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At least give us something that is possible to believe....... Please.
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Sorry,
Scott

You guys give too much credit for pure HP numbers

This truck puts down just over 500HP stock
Rolls around on 22in rims, the driveline power loss must be staggering!
It weights about 5200lbs
And the best Motortrend track tester got her to the end of the 1/4mi in 13.86sec

A stock E36 M3 with an average driver can pull 14.1sec all day long at the track. There are a few people on this board that have have it 13.8-13.9 stock! This Hybrid E36 has some respectable mods including the M50 Manifold conversion which is really givving it some high end power not to mention between 20-30whp in the upper power band.

But into simple math the truck has 500HP/5200lbs giving a ratio of .09

This Hybrid E36 I would guess has a ratio of about 270HP/3000 ratio of ..09

Its entirely possible that he pulled on his buddy!

EDIT: Forgot to mention the impressive 3.64 gearing this hybrid is running too....Yeah this E36 must pull

Congrats man

Jason

Did he have the tranny in "2" instead of "D"?!? Maybe your bud is quite possibly the worst driver ever....??

By the way the Dodge Ram SRT-10 comes with a Manual...not auto

Jason

:bs Those trucks don't come in an Automatic.

I've driven them quite a bit and I'm going to raise the BS flag on this one. I used to work for a dodge dealership.
:bs :bs

I own an M3, I've ridden in a 3.2 OBD1 M3 and Unless your friend was shifting at 3k rpm's, you don't have a chance.

Those trucks are low 12's in the quarter mile if they didn't have problems getting traction until 3rd gear. If you could pull a 14 even I would be suprised.

SRT-10 Pickups are complete monsters.

Those trucks are low 12's in the quarter mile

Uhh no, I posted the stock 1/4 mi times....

Jason

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/pickup/112_0401_first_srt/index2.html

Link to performance test

Jason

naaa i believe it... i out ran one couple nights ago there very heavy and are like a brick flipped upright at high speeds. (not to mention my 1/4 mile is better and my trap was higher)

Drivetrain layout Front engine, rwd, 2-door, 3-pass, truck
Engine type 8.3L, 90° V-10
Valve gear OHV, 2 valves/cyl
Max horsepower @ rpm 500 @ 5600
Max torque @ rpm 525 @ 4200
Specific output, hp/L 60.2
Power-to-weight, lb/hp 10.3
Weight dist, f/r, % 55/45
Transmission 6-speed manual
PERFORMANCE DATA
0-60 mph, sec 5.2
1/4 mile, sec @ mph 13.86 @ 101.49
Braking, 60-0 mph, ft 122

I've seen a 13 even with my own eyes. on a stock SRT 10. I've heard of mid 12's on street tires, low 12's with drag's on.

Go drive one and tell me how it compares with an E36 ///M3 in a straight line.

You can bench race all you want, i've driven both, I suggest you do the same and do your own research.

Well good kill then lol. I didnt know that the SRT10 was that slow. I just thought "viper engine"

I've seen a 13 even with my own eyes. on a stock SRT 10. I've heard of mid 12's on street tires, low 12's with drag's on.

Go drive one and tell me how it compares with an E36 ///M3 in a straight line.

You can bench race all you want, i've driven both, I suggest you do the same and do your own research.

Hey, I will agree... Motortrend quotes 13.86 stock... but 12's?

So for the record your saying that Motortrends numbers are off by a full second??? I would give them a few tenths on the conservative side but not a full second.

All I am saying is that comparing the numbers... its possible

Have you ridden in an M3 with a M50manifold and a 3.64 differential... I havent but I can only imagine what that 3.64 diff feels like down low and what that M50 manifold can do up high... all I am saying is that its possible!

Jason

I've seen a 13 even with my own eyes. on a stock SRT 10. I've heard of mid 12's on street tires, low 12's with drag's on.

Go drive one and tell me how it compares with an E36 ///M3 in a straight line.

You can bench race all you want, i've driven both, I suggest you do the same and do your own research.


You are a fool. Yea they have wheel spin, but have you never driven a m3 hard? There is some crazy wheel spin there too. All high powered cars have wheel spin (or trucks)

I PERSONALLY watched a 97 eclipse gsx that has run around a 13.0-13.3 for the last year just pull HARD away from a 2 door SRT10. THE 4 DOORS ARE EVEN HEAVIER.

I know they can run maybe low to mid 13's stock but saying 12's is rediculous

I've seen a 13 even with my own eyes. on a stock SRT 10. I've heard of mid 12's on street tires, low 12's with drag's on.

Go drive one and tell me how it compares with an E36 ///M3 in a straight line.

You can bench race all you want, i've driven both, I suggest you do the same and do your own research.


yeah you are a fool, I dont care how you "Feel" about one beeing faster then the other there are other factors that play into account. I dont argue with numbers backed up by resaults... did u race the SRT-10 or just drive it... yeah thats what i thought...take a look at my races compilation video.... then talk... i walked away from a z28 who i personally saw run 12.7

I didn't just drive it, I drove the heck out of it. Same thing with a 98 Viper GTS.

I've driven both excessively.

Again, you can bench race all you want, go drive the truck then come talk to me.

I've driven my M3 to the limit and I've ridden in several modded M3's, including kyles flame spitting, supra/nsx killing M3. (yes it had an M50 Manifold and dinane stage 4 software to back it up)

Alright man, you dont believe the numbers... I get it

I have never known Motortrend to be more than a few tenths off but maybe they are this time...


Jason

Boriqua speaks the truth!

I think the little E36 took down that freight train of a vehicle.:buttrock

No way, pure and simple. Those trucks are freight trains until triple digits where their aero sux. An E39 M5 couldn't pull past him the way you described, no way 270ish hp does..... Was your buddy towing a boat filled with gold at the time?!?..:dunno Did he have the tranny in "2" instead of "D"?!? Maybe your bud is quite possibly the worst driver ever....??



well....i believe he beat the truck...anything could happen. whatever...

but dont use triple digits as a fall back for the truck....
the SRT-10 has a higher top speed than an e36 M3....(esp a mid 90s)...ive heard most e36 guys cant get past 145-150mph stock.....and the truck tops out at almost 156 (world record for a truck)

:bs Those trucks don't come in an Automatic.

I've driven them quite a bit and I'm going to raise the BS flag on this one. I used to work for a dodge dealership.
:bs :bs

I own an M3, I've ridden in a 3.2 OBD1 M3 and Unless your friend was shifting at 3k rpm's, you don't have a chance.

Those trucks are low 12's in the quarter mile if they didn't have problems getting traction until 3rd gear. If you could pull a 14 even I would be suprised.

SRT-10 Pickups are complete monsters.


dude...you just OWNED yourself.

You used to work for a dodge dealer like you say...Well....#1 SRT-10s DO come with an automatic (quad cab)


and #2.....SRT-10 reg cabs are not in the low 12s...LOL at best they are low 13s...maybe high 12s with a pair of slicks and an awesome driver!!!!

shit....my 04 Cobra with intake,exhaust,and an x-pipe was a solid 12 second car with 425rwhp....and it weighs 1700lbs less than the SRT-10!!!!!

you called BS....but your spitting BS right now.

I worked for that dealership in 2004, the year the SRT10's were first released, they only came in a regular cab with a 6 speed manual.

with 505 HP etc etc.

Do you not understand how much your quarter mile time will improve with drag slicks on?

Again, go take your M3 to a dodge dealership and ask for a ride in the SRT10, you are in for a suprise. They'll let you drive it if you roll there in an ///M

I'm done arguing, we could bench race all day.

First one I see I'll coax into a race and we'll see what happens.

I have already seen one run!1!!!!!oneonewonone!!

From a roll it could not hang with a 13.0 second car... plain and simple. They raced twice. Once down the highway and coming back.

THEY ARE NOT THAT FAST........

Do you need Hans Stuck to run a 13.5 in it to believe???

Ive sat inside the SRT-10 never driven it....but trust me dude...even with slicks...the SRT-10 is only good for maybe a 12.7 - 12.8 at best....whereas ive seen runs for the reg cab at around 13.3-13.5 on average.

It doesnt have THAT big a of a traction problem if you launch it right....and 2nd gear only chirps for about 5 feet. the weight helps it out ALOT.


+I dont need to roll in to a DODGE dealer in my M3 vert to get them to let me test drive a 40k truck...lol....BTW...i almost bought the SRT-10 last january in a quad cab...they were going to give me a deal and i would have only had to pay about 4k more than I paid for my Ram 1500 Laramie AWD (38k)...i just didnt see the point in spending money on a truck when i cant use it in the winter months...thats what i bought my truck for...cause i cant use the M3 in the winter here on long island.

Dude I know your butt dyno must be like holy crap in a truck that has over 500 ft/lbs of TQ and screams on all 10cyl but that doenst make it fast nor does that work as a street race test either....

My buddy has a heavely modded Lightning and everytime I ride in it I am like "holy mother of good" this thing is fast because my butt dyno is going crazy with that massive amount of TQ that is pinning me to my seat. In reality his 5000lb Lightning with maybe 400HP has only got a few tenths of a second on my almost stock M!

These "Bench Race" comments are ridiculous since you have not raced a M3 in an SRT-10 to even know yourself... all your comments are based on your seat of the pants feeling... Hell I would feel like a bad ass driving a truck with 500HP and 10cyl under the hood but that doesnt make it the fastest thing ever....

Jason

there is a kill story video of this race

guy in a ram srt-10 talking trash about how he can beat a e46 m3

so they get on the highway still talking trash,

the m3 just walks away and they are all quiet in the truck LOL

Well, I doubt it matters, but you guys have convinced me that it is possible.

Sounds like the srt10 truck sucks.

there is a kill story video of this race

guy in a ram srt-10 talking trash about how he can beat a e46 m3

so they get on the highway still talking trash,

the m3 just walks away and they are all quiet in the truck LOL


this would be relevant if we were talking about the e46s....but we are talking about the e36s...LOL

no way can that truck challenge an e46 M3 on the highway.

BTW...why are we continuing with this discussion past this point...

WE ALL KNOW THIS: SRT-10 = 13.3-13.5 1/4 E36 M3 = 14.0 1/4 at best

there is a kill story video of this race

guy in a ram srt-10 talking trash about how he can beat a e46 m3

so they get on the highway still talking trash,

the m3 just walks away and they are all quiet in the truck LOL

Video is of a Dinan Supercharged E46M3 versus a modded Ford Lightning actually... but yes its funny

Proves that it takes a lot of power to get a 5000lb brick on oversized wheels to go fast!

Jason

WE ALL KNOW THIS: SRT-10 = 13.3-13.5 1/4 E36 M3 = 14.0 1/4 at best

Except that this race was a E36 Hybrid which has been heavely modded and you guys keep overlooking the 3.64 Diff on the E36!!!!!! That 3.64 Diff has really turned this 332is into a straight line machine...

I have never ridden in a E36 M3 with a 3.64 diff but one day I would like to switch my 3.23? for either the auto 3.34? or something in the 3.4? range!!

Need to come up with $2000 for the gears though


Jason

I agree with you...my #s were just stating stock vs. stock.....thats all you can really do anymore cause it seems everyone mods everything.

i had to come out with it because some people were like "Well, I guess the truck is slow".....thats not the case...its a low 13 second truck and will RAPE a stock or even lightly modded e36 in the 1/4.

**You guyz have to remember....the truck wasnt built to race cars....is was built as the claim to fame to be the most poweful and fastest pickup truck as of now. Comparing a 3400lb car to a 5000 truck on 22s isnt really a fair deal. Stock vs. stock though...it will beat ALOT of cars, esp from a roll where it already has traction.

And the best Motortrend track tester got her to the end of the 1/4mi in 13.86sec

there are quicker magazine times out there for that truck (13.6 according to C&D)

:bs Those trucks don't come in an Automatic.
The quad cab only comes with a 4 speed auto, the 2 door only comes with a 6 speed stick.



Those trucks are low 12's in the quarter mile if they didn't have problems getting traction until 3rd gear. If you could pull a 14 even I would be suprised. 13.6 @ 105 is the fastest stock/magazine time i have seen:

http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=7703&page_number=5

fastest otherwise (with out serious mods) was 13.3 stock with 20" rims wrapped in nittos


SRT-10 Pickups are complete monsters. agreed :D

someone said they don't come in auto? The 4 door ones do

maybe its ur m3 is slow as shit i ran mine 13.9 stock...so i dont need to go drive a srt 10 to think its fast i know its fast but i also know i beat one ... ask the driver :) nice thumbs up from him. ill do it again and make a video to own u once again.

jesus.. is this really that hard to believe?! .. i mean , i was surprised too but dayum!

Anyways.. the one i raced was an Auto (QuadCab) , and we raced on a 3rd gear roll.... I was really suprised... they arent as fast as i thought they would be.

PS- if i may add, my brother was in my car with me, and my friend was driving solo on the ram..

I'll ask him if he wants to race again (although something tells me he wont want to:stickoutt ) ,so i can tape the race and shut up all you haters:cool

maybe its ur m3 is slow as shit i ran mine 13.9 stock...so i dont need to go drive a srt 10 to think its fast i know its fast but i also know i beat one ... ask the driver :) nice thumbs up from him. ill do it again and make a video to own u once again.


See guys, im not the only one...:)

the Ram SRT-10 is fast, but...

boreme.com/boreme/funny-2005/dodge-logo-p1.php

;)

Anyways.. the one i raced was an Auto (QuadCab) , and we raced on a 3rd gear roll.... I was really suprised... they arent as fast as i thought they would be.




DUUHHHHH!!!!!!

thats all you had to say!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA.....now its VERY believable.
the quad cab has an auto and about 500 lbs on the reg cab.

QUAD CAB SRT-10s are in the high 13s.

I think everyone here though you were racing a reg cab which runs a low 13 and obviously they both are fast from a roll but the reg cab morso.

yeah you are a fool, I dont care how you "Feel" about one beeing faster then the other there are other factors that play into account. I dont argue with numbers backed up by resaults... did u race the SRT-10 or just drive it... yeah thats what i thought...take a look at my races compilation video.... then talk... i walked away from a z28 who i personally saw run 12.7


dude...relax yourself a little bit....you make your car out to be fast as hell. you have intake and exhaust and lowering springs on a 10 year old M3....and in your quote it says you ran a 13.7.....thats slow as hell compared to whats out nowadays.

the reg cab SRT-10 should easily beat you in the 1/4.

this guy raced a quad cab.

SRT-10, dodge trucks in general=poopoo. Nice kill, long live the E36 M3.

SRT-10, dodge trucks in general=poopoo. Nice kill, long live the E36 M3.


why do you say that???

dude...relax yourself a little bit....you make your car out to be fast as hell. you have intake and exhaust and lowering springs on a 10 year old M3....and in your quote it says you ran a 13.7.....thats slow as hell compared to whats out nowadays.

the reg cab SRT-10 should easily beat you in the 1/4.

this guy raced a quad cab.

From what I have read, unless the driver knows what he is doing he won't.:eek:

DUUHHHHH!!!!!!

thats all you had to say!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA.....now its VERY believable.
the quad cab has an auto and about 500 lbs on the reg cab.

QUAD CAB SRT-10s are in the high 13s.

I think everyone here though you were racing a reg cab which runs a low 13 and obviously they both are fast from a roll but the reg cab morso.

yea.. another of my friends owns a black reg cab. He took me for a ride in it and it does seem a tad faster than the quad..

I guess i'll try to race him instead;)

From what I have read, unless the driver knows what he is doing he won't.:eek:


trust me...a reg cab SRT-10 will get better than a 13.3 with a GOOD driver....and no worse than a 13.5-13.7 with some spinning.

NEVER heard of an SRT-10 hitting into the 14s....obviously the reason is due to EXCESSIVE TIRE SPINNING if they do.

yea.. another of my friends owns a black reg cab. He took me for a ride in it and it does seem a tad faster than the quad..

I guess i'll try to race him instead;)


seriously...please do and bring a camera with you and post up 2 races from 0-100 so we can see.

if your friend has a reg cab srt-10...this shouldnt be a hard task for you.

you have intake and exhaust and lowering springs on a 10 year old M3.., A few more things than that

thats slow as hell compared to whats out nowadays

compared to other N/A 3 liters, so I guess if slow as hell to you is 13.6ish, fast to you would be closer to low 12 second range.

so what you got for a car "nowadays" thats around a 3.0L in displacement, N/A, running low 12's with intake, exhaust and lowering springs?

13.7... slow as hell????

Yeah when Honda Civics start running 14.0 stock then 13.7 is slow as hell...

Jason

Im willing to bet this 332is hybrid runs low 13s.

sweet kill
:buttrock

why do you say that???

http://www.cars.com/go/advice/Story.jsp?section=top&story=iqsBrand&subject=iqs&referer=advice&aff=national, where is dodge-oh below average, my bro used to be a tech at a dodge dealership, he had some stories. Doors locking/unlocking on their own, brakes de-mounting from the rear axle.
http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/used/reviews/full/index.cfm/id/2492/

made in mexico, like vw's

thats bs.

v10 500 hp beats your m3 engine.

http://www.cars.com/go/advice/Story.jsp?section=top&story=iqsBrand&subject=iqs&referer=advice&aff=national, where is dodge-oh below average, my bro used to be a tech at a dodge dealership, he had some stories. Doors locking/unlocking on their own, brakes de-mounting from the rear axle.
http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/used/reviews/full/index.cfm/id/2492/

made in mexico, like vw's


well thats news to me...my truck is problem free and damn nice!

havent meet a ram owner who is dissappointed...ford guyz and chevy guyz on the other hand......


and YES...im sorry but 13.7 is nothing to write home about.

No i dont have an NA 3L running low 12s......thats your choice of transportation...not mine....

I have a mid 11 second Cobra and a low 10 second bike for speed. Never raced my M3 vert at the track but im assuming it would run a mid 13 @ 105mph. and my Ram 1500 is around a high 14 second 1/4.

wtf?

500 hp vs 270ish?

how is that possible?


They are geared very low for towing. Even still, however, they are extremely fast. 300hp in a standard car that's fairly light should be able to beat one, but I wouldn't imagine you could do it with any less hp, or any more weight for that matter.

Its funny but if you think about it, racing a SRT-10 truck is like racing a Dodge Viper thats towing a Miata....

Jason

ford guyz and chevy guyz on the other hand, should have bought a toyota

No i dont have an NA 3L running low 12s thats ah what I thought.

Hey look what I can do at the end of usless info............. ............... ........ ................... ................. .....

ford guyz and chevy guyz on the other hand

know that their trucks have better reliability raitings that a dodge.

and YES...im sorry but 13.7 is nothing to write home about
if were talking about fast straight line cars like you say than low 11's are kiddy shit 2. fast is more like 4-5 second range. Anyway I'd like to see your E46 vert or your cobra keep lines with a mid 13 second e36 m3 either way it isn't going to happen.

if were talking about fast straight line cars like you say than low 11's are kiddy shit 2. fast is more like 4-5 second range. Anyway I'd like to see your E46 vert or your cobra keep lines with a mid 13 second e36 m3 either way it isn't going to happen.


yea...because DRAG cars are running around on the streets nowadays right????......I love how the most attitude about cars come from the guyz with the old as shit worthless cars.

some of you boyz with the little e36 M3s are really getting on my nerves....


you praise your cars WAAYYY too much for what they are.

fine you have an M3.. a 1995 M3 thats worth about 10k today....get over it....it aint all that.

I have NO illusions that my cars are the best things around....and they are ALOT nicer than your ride! so get over yourself and your old car.

Getting on your nerves... why cuz we dont love dodge rams?


I would take a E36 M3 over a E46 M3 Convert anyday... Maybe not the coupe though.....



Jason

I'll ask him if he wants to race again (although something tells me he wont want to:stickoutt ) ,so i can tape the race and shut up all you haters:cool good idea, a video can help prove a lot of things

yea...because DRAG cars are running around on the streets nowadays right????......I love how the most attitude about cars come from the guyz with the old as shit worthless cars.

some of you boyz with the little e36 M3s are really getting on my nerves....


you praise your cars WAAYYY too much for what they are.

fine you have an M3.. a 1995 M3 thats worth about 10k today....get over it....it aint all that.

I have NO illusions that my cars are the best things around....and they are ALOT nicer than your ride! so get over yourself and your old car.

Please tell me that you are not bragging about how much money you have.
That would be very low class "new-rich" behavior.
This is a BMW forum. A 10 or 15 year old BMW has a lot more value to the owner than any $ amount could indicate.

total bs

I raced a SRT-10 QC in my E46 SMG M3. I used launch control on him and we were door to door to 105mph. The ONLY reason I started pulling on him is becasue the SRT is like a giant bread box cutting through the air.

Please tell me that you are not bragging about how much money you have.
That would be very low class "new-rich" behavior.
This is a BMW forum. A 10 or 15 year old BMW has a lot more value to the owner than any $ amount could indicate.


well im low class...what can i say.

Im not the one bragging here.....all i was saying is that it seems the guyz with the e36s do the most BS calling and posting of facts and this and that and claiming their cars are still very capable against todays cars.....

my response....GET OVER IT!!!!....hell a Honda V-6 puts out more hp than the e36 M3.....

i cant figure out where the 14 second e36 owner gets off calling a low 13 second "truck" slow.......like they have something incredible??? cmon. give me a break.

stop being extremely bias and thinking your e36s are more than capable of todays vehicles....whether it be another BMW,Chevy,Dodge,Nissan,etc etc.

there is a laundry list of cars that cost under 30k today that can RAPE e36 M3s.

I never said my cars were the best....hell...im selling my e46 M3 and looking at the C6 Z06.


different cars...yes. so appreciate that. M3s are not HP monsters and meant for street/drag racing...so dont be be ashamed if a 40k dodge truck with 500hp beats your little 240hp M3.

Actually, I may be wrong or it could be a series of lack of driving on the dodges part.

my buddy in his 95 3.2 obd1 took one, not hard, but took one none the less and was half a CL ahead or so at about 110.

This was close to a year ago, but still.

I wish I could race an M3 with me driving an SRT-10.

well im low class...what can i say.

Im not the one bragging here.....all i was saying is that it seems the guyz with the e36s do the most BS calling and posting of facts and this and that and claiming their cars are still very capable against todays cars.....

my response....GET OVER IT!!!!....hell a Honda V-6 puts out more hp than the e36 M3.....

i cant figure out where the 14 second e36 owner gets off calling a low 13 second "truck" slow.......like they have something incredible??? cmon. give me a break.

stop being extremely bias and thinking your e36s are more than capable of todays vehicles....whether it be another BMW,Chevy,Dodge,Nissan,etc etc.

there is a laundry list of cars that cost under 30k today that can RAPE e36 M3s.

I never said my cars were the best....hell...im selling my e46 M3 and looking at the C6 Z06.


different cars...yes. so appreciate that. M3s are not HP monsters and meant for street/drag racing...so dont be be ashamed if a 40k dodge truck with 500hp beats your little 240hp M3.

Hard to report a kill without it sounding like bragging
As long as E36-E30 M3’s are killing other similarly powered cars, you are going to hear about it in the kill section.
Fact is that the E36 M3 can take down 300 hp cars and certainly trucks.
Fact is also that a lot of young guys own M3’s and those are the guys that are more likely to race, so get ready to read lots more M3 kill stories, that’s what the kill section is there for.
Fact is that just like on resumes, ppl tend to report kills more than deaths.

332is POWER!

History of this thread...

-Driver claims kill over Dodge SRT-10

-Poster says its impossible

-Replies say its possible

-Thread sprials into E36 is slow as hell.... SRT-10 is slow as hell etc...

Fact is, niether one of these cars is slow. The SRT-10 is the fastest production truck and has 500HP but in a 5200lb package. The E36 in question has some really great performance mods which include some really short gears to give some really fast acceleration, combine that with the other performance mods and you have an E36 that is probably running mid to low 13's in the quarter...similar to an SRT-10!

Screw Bench racing etc etc....

Question is... Is it possible that he actually beat this SRT-10?... The answer is YES it is possible....

Jason

this is a believable kill and for goodness sakes, some of you fella's need to look at this man's mods!!!!!!!! he has 3.64lsd gearing....that makes for some very good acceleration and the rest of his mods compliment the gearing very nicely. this was a nice kill and you all have ruined it like you always do by calling bs without looking at what mods he has and not realizing that street races are different than track racing.

shoot, my brother has a C5 and he is 150hp short of 500hp. yet he would put some cls on an srt-10 truck.

to the fella that said the E36 M3 is pretty much garbage.....you are entitled to you opinion, but there is no reason for you to say that our cars are slow as balls. the fact is that my 95 M3 pulls well for being 11 years old now and handles really well for being as old as it is.

anyways, this is a believable story. if you fella's weren't there to see the race then shut the piss up and stop ruining these threads. it would be bs if this fella came on here and said that he beat a C5 or a viper, but he didn't.

jeeze if this 02imola guy hates e36 m3's this much then i wonder what he would think of everyone's favorite car... the e30 m3. who hates on classics?

I dont hate on them...I just hate on the owners who think they are the greatest things in the world and that nothing is better than them no matter how modern cars get.

I dont think anyone here kids themselves into thinking that their 10 year old E36 M3 is the best car around. However, I will agree with you that we do all love them. I guess this stems from many things. On paper, the E36 M3 is still a great performer. The engineering, suspension design, and engine are still first class. Also, the M3 is kind of a unique sports car in that each following generation appears to become a little tamer. Yes, the E46 M3 is faster but it is another step away from what the original M3 was about. Most will agree that the E36 M3 struck a happy medium between a dedicated and refined sports car and a luxury coupe. The feel and nimbleness in the genetics of the old E30 M3 are felt in the E36 M3 but are lost in the present generation. Yes, the E36 is old but it was powered by the same straight six that BMW uses today and the only way for BMW to improve on the E36's suspension design would be to add electronic control systems that most avid enthusiests would choose to do without.

And now if you are still asking, what makes the E36 M3 truely great? Well, there are many answers but I like this one the best. The E36 M3 is in a select group of automobiles that can be had for about $15,000 and with ONLY the addition of $5000 supercharger system of your choice, you have a car that can be competetive with any car on the market today. Something not many other 10yr cars are capable of.

Jason

I wasn't sure that I believed this story either. I'm still not sure what to think.

My experience with one of these monster trucks was getting my ass handed to me. It was last summer vs one of the crew cab SRT-10's. From a light (I was behind him) he accelerated normally until about 20mph and then punched it. I thought it would be an easy race even with all of that torque and big heavy truck. He pulled me by 5-6 car lengths I would say and I was not going to catch him unless we went to triple digit speeds (we didn't) or some twisty roads came up. I was pretty shocked to get humiliated like that. I'm no drag-race expert but I'm a decent driver. I was winding my M5 out to about 7K on the shifts
so I was right there in the power band.

My car is a '94 E34 M5 3.8 liter (euro spec) with a chip. Probably putting down about 300 at the wheels judging by what others with 3.8 liter M5's running this chip have dyno'd. So maybe 360ish at the crank. But my car weighs 3800 pounds (verified on a truck scale).

Maybe on a highway from a 60mph roll I would take him, but still .....

Adam Wilson
'80 E12 M535i
'94 E34 M5 3.8
www.e12m535i.com

I believe the original poster 100% and theres really no reason to call bs here.