hmmm...wont see that.

as a graduate of a different u.s. military academy, that movie looks exceedingly stupid...

yes it does. i don't know how they can make a movie out of it??

Would be more appealing if were done around West Point but I guess I'm biased as a former Cadet.

Haha, I'm a Mid at USNA and we all think it's hilarious

but GI Jane was good? :dunno

To Bad It Was Shot In Philly!

...well in PA somewhere

this movie looks horrible. it doesnt even look real. worst part is i am in the navy. what a discrace.

Haha, I'm a Mid at USNA and we all think it's hilarious

congrats on your college choice! i spent a bunch of time at usna for various collegiate sailing regattas as a competitor and later as a coach.

as a uscga grad, i am embarrased to point out that the coast guard academy was the backdrop for the "yours, mine and ours" flick that was out recently. supposedly set at the cga, but none of the cga footage is in it.....

this movie looks horrible. it doesnt even look real. worst part is i am in the navy. what a discrace.

The Fast and the Furious didnt look real either.. but look at all the $ it made... lol

good point. but it had hot girls and cool looking cars to the untrained eye. to think these guy are suppose to be future military leaders. if this were true i would definetly look for a new carrier choice.

congrats on your college choice! i spent a bunch of time at usna for various collegiate sailing regattas as a competitor and later as a coach.


lousy mids. i've lost to them too many times to count. and they sometimes have girls on board, where as my crew is always old dudes :mad :mad

Naval Academy grads are just expensively trained Naval Officers.
They are no better than OCS or NROTC trained Naval Officers.
Some USNA grads I've worked with are even worse.

Naval Academy grads are just expensively trained Naval Officers.
They are no better than OCS or NROTC trained Naval Officers.
Some USNA grads I've worked with are even worse.
Sounds like someone is very uninformed. Yes true there are some that are worse, but that can happen from any commissioning source.

However, doing ROTC stuff in the summers and taking an ROTC class here and there, and working out in the mornings, hardly compares to the four years of intense training that Academy grads go through. I know. I was a Cadet until I was separtated my last semester do to an injury that was going to prevent my commission. I had ROTC buddies who themselves relayed to me that they never did anything remotely close to the military, physical, psychological, and educational training we did as Cadets. And OCS? They go for what 6-9 months of officer training.

You can't make blatant statements like Academy grads are just expensively trained officers. It may have been better to say expensively and extensively. There are good and bad officers from all commmisioning sources. But for you to say that they are only expensively trained is completely ignorant. Yes expensive, but intense, and the best training you can get.

That's why when I was a cadet at West Point, we had ROTC people come join us for summer training. Which they all told us only the top ROTC kids got to go to, because of its valuable training experience.

The type of training you get only makes up one part of the officer. You can have complete shitbags come from an Academy after getting the best training, and you can have an awesome officer come from ROTC, who partied their four years away going to the biggest party school in the nation, and thought their ROTC program was a joke. You can also have a an awesome enlisted solider work his way to OCS and make a great officer. I also saw Officers from OCS that were amazing enlisted soldiers, but could not drop the enlisted mentality, and therefore couldn't lead for crap.

My class started out with close to 1300 and graduated about 700. About a 50% attrition rate. I don't think that if it were only an expensive officer training, and not very intense, you would see so many people not make it through.

Anyway watch the types of statements you make. Yours in this thread were obviously undeducated and uninformed, and the way you presented yourself, was offensive and rude to the people that give four years of their life away to serve this country.

i have given my four years up and then some and not on the commisioned side. but some of what greatcasa are true others not. i have met hundreds of officers in my little carrier, you can tell the ones that are academy and the ones which are not. but before you say those statements are rude or offensive remember its not the officer that give up four years its the enlisted. officers can leave anytime if they cant handle the stress. not to mention the best officers i have ever served under were not ring knockers but former enlisted. so if you are an officer remember who it is that protects you and if you dont like it you can leave at anytime.

Naval Academy grads are just expensively trained Naval Officers.
They are no better than OCS or NROTC trained Naval Officers.
Some USNA grads I've worked with are even worse.


I dont know about USNA grads... but dont put ROTC and OCS types together... the ROTC guys are woefully unprepared for... just about anything short of drilling with a rubber rifle.

i have given my four years up and then some and not on the commisioned side. but some of what greatcasa are true others not. i have met hundreds of officers in my little carrier, you can tell the ones that are academy and the ones which are not. but before you say those statements are rude or offensive remember its not the officer that give up four years its the enlisted. officers can leave anytime if they cant handle the stress. not to mention the best officers i have ever served under were not ring knockers but former enlisted. so if you are an officer remember who it is that protects you and if you dont like it you can leave at anytime.
I don't know where you get this idea that officers can leave anytime, but you are horribly mistaken. They too have to re-up and once you do, you're in for that time. Nobody in the military can just up and decide to leave with the exception of your first two years at any military academy, and those that are beyond 20 years. After that you owe time or money if you try to leave. Once you graduate your in for your five years + your 3 inactive reserve. If you decide to stay longer, your in for that time too, just like any enlisted solider. You sign up for a time, and you're in unless you get separated for medical or are dishonorably discharged for various reasons. And there are Academy grads who are non-ring knockers. You don't see them because they are obviously not knocking their rings :D

And I'm not an officer. I was separted 3 months shy of graduated for an injury that was going to prevent my commission.

I dont know about USNA grads... but dont put ROTC and OCS types together... the ROTC guys are woefully unprepared for... just about anything short of drilling with a rubber rifle.
Lol! Mike looking forward to hanging with you next weekend. By they way did you see yourself on Gray's Anatomy last week. Awesome job my friend :D

i was not referring to officers outside the navy. army officers are far better at what they do than naval officers so please dont misjudge my statement. atleast they can lead not play golf. so i appologize to any army folk out there in my book you are top notch.

i was not referring to officers outside the navy. army officers are far better at what they do than naval officers so please dont misjudge my statement. atleast they can lead not play golf. so i appologize to any army folk out there in my book you are top notch.
Note taken :)

Lol! Mike looking forward to hanging with you next weekend. By they way did you see yourself on Gray's Anatomy last week. Awesome job my friend :D

Im glad you enjoyed my performance - see you next weekend, man. :D

I don't know where you get this idea that officers can leave anytime, but you are horribly mistaken. They too have to re-up and once you do, you're in for that time. Nobody in the military can just up and decide to leave with the exception of your first two years at any military academy, and those that are beyond 20 years. After that you owe time or money if you try to leave. Once you graduate your in for your five years + your 3 inactive reserve. If you decide to stay longer, your in for that time too, just like any enlisted solider. You sign up for a time, and you're in unless you get separated for medical or are dishonorably discharged for various reasons. And there are Academy grads who are non-ring knockers. You don't see them because they are obviously not knocking their rings :D

And I'm not an officer. I was separted 3 months shy of graduated for an injury that was going to prevent my commission.


I'm not taking any side here or attempting to think I know ANYTHING on the subject at ALL.. this conversation just reminded me of a telephone technician I once met. This story put perspective on my own trivial problems at the time. He was a telephone technician but in his former career he was a GENERAL in an eastern block nation's military. I gathered that his service was not voluntary, and the price of his "free" education was 8 years of service. When he had a medical issue and could not serve..he was required to pay $300,000(US conversion) to repay the remaining year. The funny end of the story was that the country's economy went sour and the currency went worthless and after working in america and making $60k in payments over some number of years.. his final payment (under the collapse) covered the rest of the $240k. He said that he sent them an extra buck just to mess with the system... funny guy.

anyway... unrelated to whatever you took away from that story.. Thank you to those who serve, attempted/intended to serve.. and who support servicepeople.