You guys are all probably sick and tired of threads about Klasse, and I'd apologize for starting another one, but I really don't give a shit... ;)

Anyway, I read a post by Hyperion where he said you can put pure carnuba (p21s, blitz etc.) over the Klasse as a sort of topper in between the 6 month Klasse reapplications. Should this only be done on top of the AIO or can you apply the the AIO and the Sealant Glaze and still do a carnuba topper?

Also, will polish remove the Klasse? My dad told me to be careful using some of the synthetic type wax/polish things because they bond to the paint and basically can't be removed... he said it was the ones with silicon though, and Klasse doesn't have any silicon in it so it shouldn't be an issue right?

Finally, does anybody use a polish before the AIO? I know they claim it removes all the impurities and whatnot, but does it really work as well as a polish would? What about on a brand new car? Should I polish first or go straight into the AIO?

Ok.... I think i'm done, thanks for your help guys!

To my very limited understanding.

The Klasse All In One, and the Sealant Glaze is an acrylic sealant that bonds to the paint on a molecular level. So it is not comming off of there for a long time. The Glaze unlike most glazes (that are short lived and evaporate quickly) is on there to protect the AIO and extend its life. However, Carnuba will not take it off like a regular glaze because of its synthetic properties.

As for polish the AIO is supposed to do all that good time stuff. It is a polish/cleaner/protectant so an additional extra polish is not needed. However, if you feel like you have the burning desire to bo and polish your car in addition to the AIO knock yourself out. On a brand new car just go straight for the AIO it will not have accumilated enough scratches, knicks, or deposits to warrant a polish.

Klasse is unlike Zaino or Blackfire in that those two companies brands do not have any cleaning properties to them at all, they are just a shiny synthetic coating, and that is part of the reason they require prior prepwork and polishing and cleaning before they are applied to the surface.

I was working on getting the Klasse Application Guide scanned into digital format, but unfortunately I went to Kinkos it cost me $7 and in the end they came out as fragmented files and a big waste of my time which kind of pissed me off....:(

Originally posted by Kyle K.
You guys are all probably sick and tired of threads about Klasse, and I'd apologize for starting another one, but I really don't give a shit... ;)

Anyway, I read a post by Hyperion where he said you can put pure carnuba (p21s, blitz etc.) over the Klasse as a sort of topper in between the 6 month Klasse reapplications. Should this only be done on top of the AIO or can you apply the the AIO and the Sealant Glaze and still do a carnuba topper?

You can apply a carnuba topper over AIO or SG.


Also, will polish remove the Klasse? My dad told me to be careful using some of the synthetic type wax/polish things because they bond to the paint and basically can't be removed... he said it was the ones with silicon though, and Klasse doesn't have any silicon in it so it shouldn't be an issue right?

Klasse has no silicon. Klasse is an acrylic sealant. AIO will last 6 months, SG will last 1 year. I can attest to this.


Finally, does anybody use a polish before the AIO? I know they claim it removes all the impurities and whatnot, but does it really work as well as a polish would? What about on a brand new car? Should I polish first or go straight into the AIO?

Klasse AIO has very mild cleaning properties. The most important part of any detail is surface prep. That is 99% of it. If your car has alot of swirl marks, then get some 3M Finesse It II polish to remove your swirls. AIO will not remove any swirls of consequence. If your surface feels gritty, then you'll also need to clay your car to give it the smooth as glass feeling. AIO can not do this.

If your car is brand new(less than 1 year) and has no swirls, then I would AIO to clean off any old wax from yourself or the dealer, then add three layers of SG, then add a carnuba topper for the ultimate shine. Wait a couple of days in between applications of SG.

If your car is older than 1 year then you should, wash, clay(no matter what), polish(if necessary), AIO, SGx3, carnuba x1.


Ok.... I think i'm done, thanks for your help guys!

No problem!