Need a new underpanel and wondering if anyone is willing to do a GB or special on one....?

yeah i'd def be interested in either as well!

i'm in, i've been thinking about buying this underpanel. i heard it was cheaper than the stock one.

i'm in, i've been thinking about buying this underpanel. i heard it was cheaper than the stock one.
yea, im interested in this and the brake duct ones that this attaches to...

Actually very keen on it

I'm in if the price is right.

im in if the price is right as well

any vendors want to set this up?

I'd like some pictures of the stock vs. this one.

so i am guessing no vendor is willing to do one of these?

I'd be down for the one with the brake duct attachments if the price is right....

-chris

I think someone suggested this before, dealers are pretty firm ont he price, I believe some people got sassy even on how it is a good deal, etc. I plan on making my own. You are paying 150$ for 2 pieces of flimsy alluminum that Ive heard detach constantly...

I think someone suggested this before, dealers are pretty firm ont he price, I believe some people got sassy even on how it is a good deal, etc. I plan on making my own. You are paying 150$ for 2 pieces of flimsy alluminum that Ive heard detach constantly...


They have done group buys at $129 shipped before. I need one as mine tore off in an offroad excursion.

As for them detaching constantly, I never had a single problem and its been on the car for 2 years. Hell my bumper just ripped off at the track and it was still connected to the bumper when I picked it up.

M3 motorworks set the group buy up before I think.....

I think someone suggested this before, dealers are pretty firm ont he price, I believe some people got sassy even on how it is a good deal, etc. I plan on making my own. You are paying 150$ for 2 pieces of flimsy alluminum that Ive heard detach constantly...

make me one then ;)

I would go for one

hey chef i think we should take them up on this offer and start making some of these i'll talk to you when you pick up your exhaust tommy

hey chef i think we should take them up on this offer and start making some of these i'll talk to you when you pick up your exhaust tommy
Sounds good to me, just IMed a friend of mine from Allentown, he is game too. I also have a friend local to me that races his E36 and would definitely be game. Ill scout out materials this week.

sent an email to m3motorworks...

interested as well....

I sent an email to m3motorworks...
"We may consider a group buy next month. Timing isn’t so great to run one right now..we are very busy"

so looks like try again next month and you'll have it.

I'm in...specially for one that would connect with the ducts.

I'm in...specially for one that would connect with the ducts.
pics or links? i may be interested as well

one that connects with the brake ducts? I dont think there is one that connects with them. The JTD connects to the fender liners which connect to your brake ducts allowing you to keep your brake ducts in, if thats what you are asking...

here is a pictures of my old one..... http://rmaz.us/under.jpg

:wave count me in too. the stock ones dont last too long..

I'd be in for a GB.

:wave count me in too. the stock ones dont last too long..

yeah, mine is long gone. I have my front bumper off now, Ill probly play around with making my own this week, ill let you know how that goes

what happened w/ this GB?

me too!

we need a vendor....

we need a vendor....

Well, there's no e-mail address at JTD's site...so how are we supposed to contact them?

Damn Ray your bumper ripped off. Stuff is always going wrong with that car you should just give it to me:D

Well, there's no e-mail address at JTD's site...so how are we supposed to contact them?

I already contacted them they said they don't do group buys. NAmotorworks said they would do it next month. They said that 2 weeks ago, you can try them again. Looks like you will be able to get 20 in the group buy.

i will do it too.

mine is shot now too, part of a strut brace in the road....im in

+1 really interested

Interested here too

Im in for one, let me know if you get something together.

hey guys NAmotorwerks (previously Mmotorwerks previsouly M3motorwerks, a forum sponsor) is having a sale until V-day, $25 off anything over $60, so if u can buy the panel for $125 shipped! probly better price than a group buy can get u, i'd rather go this route...

It looks like it is 175 minus the 25 for about 150 shipped? Am I missing some kind of discount I cant see? Pretty good price if i can get it for the 125.

If your lazy:
http://www.namotorwerks.com/products/description.php/II=106/PA=0

hey guys NAmotorwerks (previously Mmotorwerks previsouly M3motorwerks, a forum sponsor) is having a sale until V-day, $25 off anything over $60, so if u can buy the panel for $125 shipped! probly better price than a group buy can get u, i'd rather go this route...

id prolly be down for one at or below 125

It looks like it is 175 minus the 25 for about 150 shipped? Am I missing some kind of discount I cant see? Pretty good price if i can get it for the 125.

If your lazy:
http://www.namotorwerks.com/products/description.php/II=106/PA=0

if u were subscribed to their mailing list, u would of known:)

i'm sure if u call and inquire about it they will be more than willing to give it to you, stand up guys over there.:thumbup:

also at $125, that is probly rock bottom for these. i believe in the last group buy they went for ~$129...so u make the call. just trying to give everyone a heads up

if u were subscribed to their mailing list, u would of known:)

i'm sure if u call and inquire about it they will be more than willing to give it to you, stand up guys over there.:thumbup:

also at $125, that is probly rock bottom for these. i believe in the last group buy they went for ~$129...so u make the call. just trying to give everyone a heads up
Anyone call to confirm the price?

+1 really interested

No vendors interested?

im in

I'm in.

Im In

Well I called NA Motorwerks and left a message noting this thread. Hopefully they'll be interested.

i want one!! count me in!!.....i'll be checking this thread daily for updates...

+1

Maybe a vendor will get tired of seeing us bump this thread and pick up the group buy. :)

So the JTD Underpanel is aluminum and the stock is plastic? If I were to get splitters, would this affect how they mount?

So the JTD Underpanel is aluminum and the stock is plastic? If I were to get splitters, would this affect how they mount?
No. The splitters mount to your stock lip.

And I'm quietly watching this thread as well.

Very interested in underpanel. Splitters, what are they, where do they go? I here a lot of talk about them, but can't seem to figure out exactly what part of the bumper you guys are referring to?

bump

Just noticed my car is missing it!

ttt

one of my pork chop things is gone, I might try making one also, I dont care if its ghetto, just not sharp and pointy when I cut it.

If I can't make one I would probably be in for this

hey guys im selling mine so if your interested let me know... here is the link:
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5970323#post5970323

one of my pork chop things is gone, I might try making one also, I dont care if its ghetto, just not sharp and pointy when I cut it.

If I can't make one I would probably be in for this
The underpanel has nothing to do with the pork chops.

Alright this is getting rediculous. What vendors typically sell the underpanel? Maybe direct contact to one of them is in order. List off any vendors you guys can think of that usually have a decent price.

Alright this is getting rediculous. What vendors typically sell the underpanel? Maybe direct contact to one of them is in order. List off any vendors you guys can think of that usually have a decent price.
As stated in my earlier post, I already contacted NA Motorwerks. I guess they're not interested in a GB.

Wow, I did some quick searching online for vendors of the part and the pickings are pretty slim, most companies are out of business or do not list the panel on their sites. Maybe an email to JTD is in order.

Edit: Email sent to JTD, see if they can recommend a vendor for us.

The underpanel has nothing to do with the pork chops. ...besides replacing them (along with some other pieces down there)... ;)

ttt

I need an underpanel! Looks like a great opportunity here for someone to sell quite a few.....

i went out and ordered it, it arrived last night......sorry for ditchin!

200th post!

im interested!

I'm interested too....factory one got killed by the evil orange monster :/.

Me too.

i'd be interested in this as well, if the price is right of course.
doesn't have to be JTD, just something more durable than OEM.

Why not ask Jim Mihal directly ? If it's anyone, it would be him who can give a direct answer.

Why not ask Jim Mihal directly ? If it's anyone, it would be him who can give a direct answer.
I emailed JTD, no response.

im in

I honestly don't see this thing happening.

I honestly don't see this thing happening.

Sadly I agree.

I talked to NA Motorwerks and they took like 10 bucks off the price a few months back. Just ask them to give us a coupon. That is about as good as it is going to get.

what if someone who already has one removes thiers and makes up some quick templates? it would be as easy as outlining the thing... then they could make some cash on here and we could all make ours pretty easy... maybe slip a guy at home depot a 20 to cut one out for ya?

just my .02

guys i still have my jtd underpanel that i sold but i havent been able to ship yet... i might be willing to trace the two main black aluminem peices out. here:

http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL699/2582758/7962311/130348131.jpg

i might go to my local home depot and have about 40 of these underpanels made depending on how much interest there is... we can discuss pricing later but it will be very reasonable... are the black aluminem peices the only peices you guys need to make this complete????

what should i do about this peice:

http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL699/2582758/7962311/130348126.jpg

have any pics of this installed?

im interested in any underpanel...mine just went. It would be cool if you could fabricate one

guys i still have my jtd underpanel that i sold but i havent been able to ship yet... i might be willing to trace the two main black aluminem peices out. here:

http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL699/2582758/7962311/130348131.jpg

i might go to my local home depot and have about 40 of these underpanels made depending on how much interest there is... we can discuss pricing later but it will be very reasonable... are the black aluminem peices the only peices you guys need to make this complete????

what should i do about this peice:

http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL699/2582758/7962311/130348126.jpg



anybody else interested in this????

anybody else interested in this????
im interested but depends on the price...i might just buy the template from you... if u allow it...

I'd be down for the one with the brake duct attachments if the price is right....

-chris

+1

anybody else interested in this????
If you can mass produce duplicates I'd like to see a price. Otherwise I too would like to buy a template from you. What piece is that you are showing? Can you take a pic of all pieces? Thanks.

I need one also...my car has nothing under there......

I'm in too...I just realized that's what it was that broke...it's ghetto taped right now :(

Most of mine is missing also.

Love to buy the template...fabricated ones would cost money to ship. HOW ABOUT THE MEASUREMENT DRAWINGS?

Thanks

No one picked up this GB eh... I think I'm gonna go make my own as well then. I'll probably do it at the same time I fab up my brake ducts.

I'm interested in buying one also if you can fabricate one.

Ill buy one from you as well :)

Somebody PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE build an affordable panel. They will sell like crazy.

Okay fellas, here is what I may be able to contribute to this forum a first time if possible. What I would need is a as EstriolM state, if he can provide measurements and drawing of these panels, my brother works in a metal shop ( the build equipment for restaurants, etc) in NY. Depending on the type of alluminum he says he can easily make one for us. I did some part time work with him before and they use this aluminum metal sheet to cover walls of retaurant kitchens which is very durable and flexible and tough as SH*& but I am worried that it might be not be what is needed. Anyway if I can get this diagram and measurements I will have one made over the weekend and give you guys a report with pictures. By the way it is not black but is silver, but I am sure you can paint over it. If he is willing after the initial one, I do not mind having this done for those who request it providing you pay for shipping and packaging supplies. So if anyone has these measurements pm with it or email me at shaggmandingo@yahoo.com or Estriol let me know how much you want for the diagram and measurements all the pieces involved.

All you need is for somebody to trace the outline of the assembled panel on a big piece of paper and mail it to you.

That center V-shaped piece on top of the panel keeps it from bowing too much. It may be a bit more difficult to replicate.

Good luck.

im getting ready to do some work on my underbody panel.. and will be fabricating one myself SOON.. ill keep everyone posted.. as I would be willing to sell a template... will also have pics when I complete

Are the panels the same for all E36s? Or do they vary?

Good question adamnur, I am gonna make one for my non-M bumper soon, maybe someone will fab one for their M bumper and we can compare pics. I seriously do not think it's gonna be difficult to make something like this. If it bows, I'll find a way to prevent it, no biggie.

I don't plan to sell any of these unless it is seriously easy to make and I can make enough to comp my time which is very valuable right now, but I do plan to sell custom fab brake ducts in the near future, probably on eBay.

Hmm, who sells the JTD anyway? Also, does anyone know if it's bad to run without the underpanel altogether? Right now it's in pieces, and I've had to tape it up to the bumper so it stays, and it looks pretty ghetto. Thanks

I've been running without an underpanel for about 6 months or so. Your engine gets really dirty and mucky when it rains, and that's about it as far as I can tell. It's best to cover the damn thing though...

Anybody know anything about the Germanwerkz underpanel? Goes for $109.95.
I just inquired via e-mail about a GB price . . .

It can't be that bad, it aluminum and so is JTD. It also appears to have some vents that will allow for some air flow to get under there. I would be in for this, what was the group buy price they quoted you on, please get to us with more info, I am up for this, if no GB I just may buy it anyway and try it out in about a week when I put my car in the shop.

This looks nice. Look forward to hearing on what they can do for a GB. Anyone know if it comes with the nuts and bolts to attach it?

Sweet! Like it....count me in!

http://www.germanwerkz.com/index.php?data=products/e36002

Can we start a new thread for the Germanwerkz underpanel ?

didn't even know there was another option out there...
still interested.

I'm in for the germanwerkz unit.

Looks like a copy version but cheaper...I'm in too.....

Anybody know anything about the Germanwerkz underpanel? Goes for $109.95.
I just inquired via e-mail about a GB price . . .

I'd like to see how this ends up. Maybe when they reply, you could make a new thread for it? This one is pretty cluttered now. :stickoutt

Thanks

I have not gotten a response to my inquiry re a GB. I had heard that their service/response is poor.

One of you guys may wanna try shooting them an e-mail or calling.

Crap, just looked at the contact info, he's located in my Town! LOL! I'll shoot a message soon....

Not kidding about the customer service/response, I also emailed them shortly after you did and have yet to also recieve a response. It really sucks that they don't have a phone to contact them through. Just email.

Crap, just looked at the contact info, he's located in my Town! LOL! I'll shoot a message soon....

Dude if he is in your town see if you have the time and drop by, he is not responding to emails so going in might be the best. Hope he is not too far.

All it shows is a PO box, I'm hoping we can get together sometime. I suggested maybe a test fitting on mine with pics....if it works well could probably sell a bunch in here....

Edit, got a reply....just replied back asking if I can share it. Back soon.....

All it shows is a PO box, I'm hoping we can get together sometime. I suggested maybe a test fitting on mine with pics....if it works well could probably sell a bunch in here....

Edit, got a reply....just replied back asking if I can share it. Back soon.....

what did you just recieve, is it a copy of the JTD panel, keep us up to date.

Are the panels the same for all E36s? Or do they vary?
Good question adamnur, I am gonna make one for my non-M bumper soon, maybe someone will fab one for their M bumper and we can compare pics. I seriously do not think it's gonna be difficult to make something like this. If it bows, I'll find a way to prevent it, no biggie.

I don't plan to sell any of these unless it is seriously easy to make and I can make enough to comp my time which is very valuable right now, but I do plan to sell custom fab brake ducts in the near future, probably on eBay.

I went from a standard E36 bumper to the M-Technic front bumper. The porkchops fit identically; in fact they didnt' use the large pork chops on the M3 until 96. The same underpanel would fit the standard E36 bumper and the M-Technic bumper. Like always, BMW tried to keep as much as possible the same to save costs. :thumbup:

It looks like the JTD panel has the M3 porkchops underneath it... do you use your porkchops WITH the underpanel, or instead of? Maybe the M3 porkchop shields is the only thing they used... :dunno

JTD:

http://www.namotorwerks.com/images/fullsize/JTD-907-UPD_fs.jpg

Germanwerkz (no chops baby)

http://www.germanwerkz.com/products/images/e36002.jpg

EDIT: I'm definitely in for this GB BTW.

Well he hasn't gotten back to me a 2nd time, I had a few more questions for him. What he did give me in his first reply (his name is John..like mine) is below:

The panels themselves are drop shipped from the supplier in Canada – unfortunately I do not have much in the way of margin to play with on these panels, as I have a set price I pay per panel to the supplier, which includes packing/shipping/duties/paypal fee/etc. – I would imagine the cheapest way to obtain them would be to take a panel to a metal shop and get duplicates made, but I never felt the price was high enough to justify the hassle – I could go slightly lower on the panel itself, but not by enough to really justify a group purchase – I could also go a bit lower if you mail your payment in, as I wouldn’t need to cover paypal fees.



The lowest price I can really offer for a money order/personal check payment would be $115, rather than $128.90 (website ‘shipped price’), although for a 10+ person group buy this is a disappointing reduction – as I said the margins on this piece are low, as I buy them from a third party (so it is not just me setting a high price on a piece of sheet metal) – I would offer this price of $115 without a group purchase, just email me to let me know you are sending a check/money order and I will email you back to confirm once I have received it.


When I get another reply from him I'll let you know. Still a good deal at $115 shipped, looks nice. Need to hit up Scorp965, he has a lot of thier stuff on his car and it was used for photoshoots....just don't know if he hangs here anymore. He may have had this panel. (lives local and has an NSX now)

I got sick of waiting and ordered one a couple days ago from Germanwerks, I'll let you guys know how it turns out. I don't understand why he needs a check/money order he is all setup with a paypal business account. Unless he's making up for some of the lost profit by not dealing with paypal fees.

Take pics of it and copy the size and measurements, I wouldn't mind buying a copy of it from you, that way I can create one. I am really considering just getting one and copying it, just to see the cost, hopefully it is not too expensive and I can make it for you guys.

It looks like the JTD panel has the M3 porkchops underneath it... do you use your porkchops WITH the underpanel, or instead of? Maybe the M3 porkchop shields is the only thing they used... :dunno

JTD:

http://www.namotorwerks.com/images/fullsize/JTD-907-UPD_fs.jpg

Germanwerkz (no chops baby)

http://www.germanwerkz.com/products/images/e36002.jpg

EDIT: I'm definitely in for this GB BTW.
I think the porkchops are an option. You don't have to use them. And since the germanwerks kit is a replica, it's all the same.

It costs him to use Paypal, there are Paypal fees. Thats why he can offer a better price with Check or Money Order

I got a JTD underpanel and am kinda confused on where exactly that metal piece sticking up goes.

i found this as well not too long ago. but it seems the guy never returns emails so i decided on the JTD from MMotorwerks for i belieev it was $135 shipped. At least i know i have piece of mind and that i can communicate with someone on the other line if there is any need to do so. I would rather pay the extra bucks and know i am definitely getting my panel.

Will this underpanel work with the Rieger Inifnity bumper??

Is this going to happen?

Will this underpanel work with the Rieger Inifnity bumper??
Does the Rieger Infinity bumper work with the OE pork-chop spacers?

hate to sound a little off on this one.. but what exactly are the pork-chop spacers everyone refers to?

also what is the piece of metal that sticks up vertical and where exactly does that go?

hate to sound a little off on this one.. but what exactly are the pork-chop spacers everyone refers to?

also what is the piece of metal that sticks up vertical and where exactly does that go?

porkchops are thick plastic pieces that attach sort of between the underpanel and the bumper cover itself on the ends, and they resemble porkchops, hence the name.........you can run without them, as many of us do.........and i think they only came on later models 98-99.......anyone know for sure?

the metal piece that sticks up on the underpanel itself is there to aid with airflow......

and i think they only came on later models 98-99.......anyone know for sure?no, they came on all coupes... (mine only came with 1 when i bought it used, so i replaced it with the JTD underpanel).. not sure about sedans

the metal piece is an air diffuser and fits right under/around the radiator

no, they came on all coupes... (mine only came with 1 when i bought it used, so i replaced it with the JTD underpanel).. not sure about sedans

the metal piece is an air diffuser and fits right under/around the radiator


thanx for the info sir!!......not sure about the sedan thing, mine's missing everything from the front bumper......

RE: sedans
They came with porkchops.

I need one of these as well. Could someone answer a question for me though ? I have a 325i with an M3 front bumper. I know this *should* fit, but has anyone tried it ? Is there drilling involved ? It looks like it has to have some additional holes drilled for it.

Every E36 ever made came with "Pork-chop" spacers. The M3 pork-chop spacers are a little different then the standard E36 pork-chop; however in 1994-1995 the M3 came with the standard pork-chop. The M3 pork-chop sort of has a shield around it; M3 sedans only used the regular pork-chop spacer.

So to summarize:

92-99 E36 3ers - standard pork-chop spacer;
96-99 M3 Coupe - M3 pork-chop spacer;
95 M3 Coupe and M3 Sedans - standard pork-chop spacer;

I have been doing a GB for M3 bumpers for over six months now; I am well versed in the connecting components of the front-end of an E36 after answering a myriad of questions on the subject in a 1000+ post thread. :thumbup:

Here is an M3 pork-chop spacer. See the "pork-chop" looking piece within the outer shell?
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f340/EEEEeeee36/65323308_202543732_0.jpg

That is the actual standard pork-chop spacer used on the regular E36 3er. The 'shell' or cover around that pork-chop spacer is what they added for the M3. It protects a greater area and it has some better aerodynamic properties. Here is the other side (that faces down towards the street - the bottom).

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f340/EEEEeeee36/65322648_202541510_0.jpg

Looking to get in on the group buy but is this on?

Looking to get in on the group buy but is this on?
+1 Can someone PM me if this ever happens? I'm definately in.