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Abrahams/101CM
12-14-2005, 09:12 PM
S52 3.2
Bottom End
Compression Test 10.30.05 210lbs (+ / - 2.5%)
New Bearings & Rings 2005
Stock 3.2 Pistons/Rods/Crank

Top End
Leak Down Test 10.30.05 under 10% all cylinders
Ported & Polished
Large Valve Sets (Exhaust/Intake)
Titanium Retainers
Double Springs
Large Injectors
Aggressive Euro Cams (Top End Performance)
Reusable Racing Bolts
Inline Oil Filter and 18 Row Oil Cooler
Gel Coat Shortly Headers w/Borla Racing Exhaust System

Mustang Dyno Results (Cyntec West Chester, PA) 09.06.05
237 hp Rear Wheels
209 fpt Rear Wheels

Slight oil leak from current head gasket.
Engine can come with new head gasket

Won CM Class at Summit in 05
Low 2.08’s at the Glen and 5th overall.

Make Offer

Andrew Abrahams
267.250.8133

///M3Matt
12-14-2005, 09:13 PM
For you......$1










CHUMP :D

Abrahams/101CM
12-14-2005, 09:15 PM
Sold!
(just kidding).....

scottbm3
12-14-2005, 10:07 PM
S52 3.2
Bottom End
Compression Test 10.30.05 210lbs (+ / - 2.5%)
New Bearings & Rings 2005
Stock 3.2 Pistons/Rods/Crank

Top End
Leak Down Test 10.30.05 under 10% all cylinders
Ported & Polished
Large Valve Sets (Exhaust/Intake)
Titanium Retainers
Double Springs
Large Injectors
Aggressive Euro Cams (Top End Performance)
Reusable Racing Bolts
Inline Oil Filter and 18 Row Oil Cooler
Gel Coat Shortly Headers w/Borla Racing Exhaust System

Mustang Dyno Results (Cyntec West Chester, PA) 09.06.05
237 hp Rear Wheels
209 fpt Rear Wheels

Slight oil leak from current head gasket.
Engine can come with new head gasket

Won CM Class at Summit in 05
Low 2.08’s at the Glen and 5th overall.

Make Offer

Andrew Abrahams
267.250.8133

Uh, what was your question :stickoutt

Abrahams/101CM
12-14-2005, 10:10 PM
Shhhhhhhhhhh!

Steve J.
12-14-2005, 10:10 PM
IBTL, this will be in the specialty forum shortly ;)

Those numbers seem a tad low.

Abrahams/101CM
12-14-2005, 10:24 PM
Well...with a fresh stock bottom end - that's about what you will make with this trick head.
Still nearly as fast as the fully worked CM S52 E36's...
Great tight motor to be sold at a reasonable price.
Ready to bolt in - complete with full exhaust.
Is a great motor for someone needing a affordable race motor.

All info posted can be verified.
Thanks for your observation.

I think this post adds value to the Track fourm and should remain.... :)

scottbm3
12-14-2005, 10:30 PM
IBTL, this will be in the specialty forum shortly ;)

Those numbers seem a tad low.

That's what I was thinking. I see higher numbers with my US. 3.2 with 62,000 miles stock bottom end, stock head , Schrick, OBD1 manifold, 3.5 HFM, AA Headers, SW.

SlammedE30
12-14-2005, 10:32 PM
The dyno numbers do seem a bit low, but keep in mind they were measured on a Mustang Dyno. Good luck with the sale!
-Ted

Steve J.
12-14-2005, 10:37 PM
Cyntec does read pretty low, about 8-10% from the numbers I have seen compared to the same car on a dynojet.

You upgrading to the mighty S54?

liilpa09
12-14-2005, 10:44 PM
Cyntec does read pretty low, about 8-10% from the numbers I have seen compared to the same car on a dynojet.

You upgrading to the mighty S54?
yea it does. A car w/ an rms stg. 2 supercharger dynoed at around 280-290rwhp there. Your numbers are good for their dyno and a NA motor. good luck with the sale.

m3ltw98
12-15-2005, 01:10 AM
Cyntec does read pretty low, about 8-10% from the numbers I have seen compared to the same car on a dynojet.

You upgrading to the mighty S54?

more like 20% low

Steve J.
12-15-2005, 01:22 AM
Depends on which dyno you are comparing it to. Going off the numbers I got from chuck, and recent dynojet numbers, it was about 8-10% low.

Can't just make a generic comparison.

m3ltw98
12-15-2005, 01:48 AM
Its 20% low compared to the dyno at ERT

332 RustBucket
12-15-2005, 09:51 AM
Its 20% low compared to the dyno at ERT


Isn't the ERT High tho? I thought I remember a dyno out of there that was VERY high...

vjlax18
12-15-2005, 10:07 AM
Depends on which dyno you are comparing it to. Going off the numbers I got from chuck, and recent dynojet numbers, it was about 8-10% low.

Can't just make a generic comparison.
Its 20% low compared to the dyno at ERT
16.66% To be exact... same day Cyntex to Dynojet ;)

vjlax18
12-15-2005, 10:09 AM
Isn't the ERT High tho? I thought I remember a dyno out of there that was VERY high...
Not the last time I was there. :dunno

332 RustBucket
12-15-2005, 10:17 AM
Not the last time I was there. :dunno


Gotcha, might be getting it confused with another place.

Steve J.
12-15-2005, 11:10 AM
16.66% To be exact... same day Cyntex to Dynojet ;)
Which Dynojet?

vjlax18
12-15-2005, 11:17 AM
I don't remember the name of the place, something like RRT or something.

qwickm3
12-15-2005, 11:19 AM
You upgrading to the mighty S54?

No but he does have something special coming:evil2

BTW Andrew you are on my S%^t list, and you know why:mad

Steve J.
12-15-2005, 01:26 PM
Is it still a CM motor? M44 turbo!?

Also, vjlax, you meant ert? ;) lol

sunir
12-15-2005, 01:51 PM
cyntex does read low but Chuck and others think it's a good dyno for tuning so they take cars there...Andrew whatchya puttin' in there once u sell this motor:devillook

Steve J.
12-15-2005, 01:54 PM
Just because a dyno reads lower then another does not mean much...all it means is you don't get bragging rights. But if the dyno is more accurate/precise then you can brag when you win the race knowing you have more "real" power and not having to win the dyno race ;)
Dynojet, mustang, dynomite, autodyn, etc are all quality. Just because some give a different reading does not mean the car actually makes less power.

Only real way to use Dynos as a selling point is if you ave a very controlled environment, or if you want to use peak HP numbers at the crank for selling, an engine dyno should be used.

megatron
12-15-2005, 04:57 PM
Just because a dyno reads lower then another does not mean much...all it means is you don't get bragging rights. But if the dyno is more accurate/precise then you can brag when you win the race knowing you have more "real" power and not having to win the dyno race ;)

or you can brag that you won win less motor. :D

Steve J.
12-15-2005, 05:11 PM
or you can brag that you won win less motor. :D

I got to admit that is a good feeling :stickoutt

techno550
12-15-2005, 07:45 PM
Is it still a CM motor? M44 turbo!?

Also, vjlax, you meant ert? ;) lol

M44 turbo would be DM.... and stomp every CM car out there.

Steve J.
12-15-2005, 07:47 PM
Mike...get to it, we're all waiting!

sunir
12-15-2005, 08:16 PM
doesn't forced induction put it in some other mod class than D or C mod..like baybe A or B mod I'd think...there was a supercharged 540 V8 in a full tube framed e36 race car at Mosport (Peter Botsinis' car) in '04 that was classed in S mod...

m3ltw98
12-15-2005, 08:25 PM
forced induction means you increase your engine size 150%. I think the M44 is 1.8l so it would be around 2700cc w. the FI. Botsanis was in SM because his front end was tube framed and because he ran a jericho type trans.

Steve J.
12-15-2005, 08:27 PM
Yea the M44 with a turbo is DM.

Lots of threads recently on turbo CR cars...but noone has done one yet and been successful (cough mike cough, lets go)

sunir
12-15-2005, 08:45 PM
whoa M44-T in DM...that'll rip up fo sure mah homies!:alright

Steve J.
12-15-2005, 09:17 PM
Who want to put the new Bugati/Vw 1000hp 7spd setup in an E30!? C'mon, we'll call it Super Dooper Mod class.

techno550
12-15-2005, 11:00 PM
Yea the M44 with a turbo is DM.

Lots of threads recently on turbo CR cars...but noone has done one yet and been successful (cough mike cough, lets go)
I don't have the budget to go club racing at the moment. If I did, I'd be there already.

My 2.5L turbo has done quite well on track at the random track day events its been to thus far. It's making more than your average built 3.2... and is a bone stock (stock head bolts, stock head gasket, etc...) M50B25TU running on pump gas. So there is no question in my mind if similar power can be done with even a stock M44.

So if someone wants to give me a job in the ATL area paying (average annual club racing budget) more than what i'm getting now.... :)