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propr`one 11-23-2005, 05:49 AM I've had my 328 for about a month and a half now, and i've never driven an m3. I've been driven in an m3 but never when someone was giving it.
i was driving home from school day, pretty late around 10pm, going down lakeshore. Stop a red light, look over, dakar yellow e36 M3. He's got his windows open, mine are too, i look over and say nice car. He hits the accelerator and car gives a great growl. MMM m's i lovem. Anyways he asked if i was up, and i said what the hell. (Note: At this point i'll point out that my car has no badge on it, however it has no m3 body mods other than stock sport package 328 trimmings).
Light turns green we go at it. I dont think he dropped in as hard as he would've liked to, cause i stay very close to him all throughout first and through part of second. At the end of third he was like 3 CL's on me and pulling fast. There was some traffic up ahead, so we both slow down. Once we pass traffic, we're both going about 80, he's just infront of me. Im in the far left lane, he's in the far right (3 lane road). He switches lanes and drops back enough enough to be lined up directly with me. he signals he wants to play again, we both hammer it.
this time, i see an ///M badge pulling far and fast away from me:D
obviously i wasn't expecting to win, a 328 vs an m3 is no matchup if cars are stock (i think his was too). But i love e36's so much, getting killed by an M is a privlidge for me:D
THANK YOU SIR MAY I HAVE ANOTHER.
(I think his car must've been a 94 or 95, it had pre 97 grills)
themadhatter 11-23-2005, 06:21 AM m50 mani, exhaust, cams, injectors, software and gears and you'll be feeding him exhaust fumes.
nice run!
-Ron
propr`one 11-23-2005, 06:30 PM Thanks ron!
that's the plan
m50 manifold
s54 cams
mark D'sylva lives around the corner (eat software)
and some injectors.
I dont know about beating M's, but it'll be quicker than it is now:D
themadhatter 11-23-2005, 06:51 PM s54 cams won't help you much but S52 will. ;)
it'll beat a stock m3, no question about it.
the M3 has 2 things over your car (stock). a more aggressive diff ratio and more power to the wheel.
compensate for both and you'll have no issue schooling one all day long.
I want to run a 328is. I had one before my M3, but I want to line up side by side with one. :devillook:evil2
m3chaser 11-23-2005, 08:39 PM nice honorable death:D . ron is sooo right!! it is all about the gearing my friend. i have 3.38lsd gearing and it is soooo fun. i have yet to race a 328is but i am anxious to race one!
propr`one 11-23-2005, 09:42 PM Right you are its a s52.
If you feel like driving from texas to toronto, come'on down, i'll give you a few runs. (by that time i may be done with mods though:D)
force34 11-23-2005, 09:52 PM m50 mani, exhaust, cams, injectors, software and gears and you'll be feeding him exhaust fumes.
nice run!
-Ron
im getting there..got the exhaust lol, getting all the other eventually..
back on topic, nice try..better luck after mods lol
themadhatter 11-24-2005, 04:41 AM I want to run a 328is. I had one before my M3, but I want to line up side by side with one. :devillook:evil2
come to jersey/pa, I'll give your m3 a run for it's money with my 323is. :devillook
propr`one 11-24-2005, 05:03 AM 323 eh
hmm
332-323 OH NOES!!
you lost 900 ML of displacement!!
its those theiving gypsies i tells ya:D
yeah i dunno about modding this car. i seriously want to and have almost started, but if i save up for 2 more years i can plop a 3.2 litre m3 engine in. then remember to put my 318 badge on:devillook
cosmom3 11-24-2005, 05:06 AM m50 mani, exhaust, cams, injectors, software and gears and you'll be feeding him exhaust fumes.
nice run!
-Ron
Might as well just buy an ///M for all that.
Matt P. 11-24-2005, 05:07 AM m50 mani, exhaust, cams, injectors, software and gears and you'll be feeding him exhaust fumes.
nice run!
-Ron
yeah, but do that to an M3 and we're talkin ~300hp
f ll th bl nks 11-24-2005, 05:22 AM Doesn't Canada get the Euro Spec M3?
themadhatter 11-24-2005, 05:33 AM yeah, but do that to an M3 and we're talkin ~300hp
not at the wheel.
real numbers will work out to around 230-250 whp on an M3. a stock M3 runs 190-210 whp at best. I've personally seen M3s dyno 185 whp on a clean stock motor.
do the above listed mods on a 328i and you'll be around 210 + whp, add gears and you're now a competitive player to a US spec M3.
the cost is pretty low too since the S52 cams are used and the rest of the stuff is just bolt ons plus software.
Canada received around 200+/- Euro spec M3s in '94, after that, they got the m3 that we're familiar with.
Remotion 11-24-2005, 08:29 AM US spec M3 is more like "330is" so you could beat it or be even with those mods... (not sure, we have only few US spec here in finland, others 90% of M3s are Euro spec) but it still would not be nothing to Euro spec M3 ;)
themadhatter 11-24-2005, 08:34 AM US spec M3 is more like "330is" so you could beat it or be even with those mods... (not sure, we have only few US spec here in finland, others 90% of M3s are Euro spec) but it still would not be nothing to Euro spec M3 ;)
330is with an M3 suspension, body kit, interior and similiar brakes...though without the floating front rotors.
the only true differences are the motor, gearbox*, rear subframe* and diff*.
*95 euro and US spec were identical, '96-99 Euro were larger and more durable w/ 6 spd.
Matt P. 11-25-2005, 06:51 PM ^eurospecs arent THAT much faster....
m3mobbin 11-25-2005, 07:17 PM 323 actually have a 2.5 with a crappy exhaust setup.
323 eh
hmm
332-323 OH NOES!!
you lost 900 ML of displacement!!
its those theiving gypsies i tells ya:D
yeah i dunno about modding this car. i seriously want to and have almost started, but if i save up for 2 more years i can plop a 3.2 litre m3 engine in. then remember to put my 318 badge on:devillook
themadhatter 11-25-2005, 07:21 PM ^eurospecs arent THAT much faster....
I didn't say they were but they still put out more power then the US spec and had better gearing.
CdnR328i 11-28-2005, 12:55 PM Canada got 50 in 1994. 281 advertised hp.
propr`one 11-28-2005, 02:46 PM yeah in canada we got eurospec m3's for a while, and i think we might've got the SMG a year before you guys did.
HRP494 11-28-2005, 03:09 PM THANK YOU SIR MAY I HAVE ANOTHER.
(I think his car must've been a 94 or 95, it had pre 97 grills)
No E36 M3's in 94
CdnR328i 11-28-2005, 03:39 PM No E36 M3's in 94
Yes there were! Do your research.
98328I 11-28-2005, 08:50 PM i almost bought a 94' yellow euro spec m3 before i bought my 328, it had no power option and no leather, but had the 3.2 w/ 6 tbodies 281hp, went well, but worth huge $$$, i wasnt going to pay 35,000 for a used m3 w/ 90,000kms....:devillook
Ajax5678 11-28-2005, 09:24 PM A canuck that races it's dam rare for me.
Ajax5678 11-28-2005, 09:25 PM and I though we only got 45 Euro spec 94' M3's and advertised 286HP My old boss had one but he sold it after his son rolled it into a ditch, then got rebuilt again. And there is one for sale with like 40000km or so for $45000
BoneThug 11-29-2005, 06:26 PM I've had my 328 for about a month and a half now, and i've never driven an m3. I've been driven in an m3 but never when someone was giving it.
i was driving home from school day, pretty late around 10pm, going down lakeshore. Stop a red light, look over, dakar yellow e36 M3. He's got his windows open, mine are too, i look over and say nice car. He hits the accelerator and car gives a great growl. MMM m's i lovem. Anyways he asked if i was up, and i said what the hell. (Note: At this point i'll point out that my car has no badge on it, however it has no m3 body mods other than stock sport package 328 trimmings).
Light turns green we go at it. I dont think he dropped in as hard as he would've liked to, cause i stay very close to him all throughout first and through part of second. At the end of third he was like 3 CL's on me and pulling fast. There was some traffic up ahead, so we both slow down. Once we pass traffic, we're both going about 80, he's just infront of me. Im in the far left lane, he's in the far right (3 lane road). He switches lanes and drops back enough enough to be lined up directly with me. he signals he wants to play again, we both hammer it.
this time, i see an ///M badge pulling far and fast away from me:D
obviously i wasn't expecting to win, a 328 vs an m3 is no matchup if cars are stock (i think his was too). But i love e36's so much, getting killed by an M is a privlidge for me:D
THANK YOU SIR MAY I HAVE ANOTHER.
(I think his car must've been a 94 or 95, it had pre 97 grills)
u had your windows down in toronto in november. Why?!?1 its freezing dude
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