View Full Version : Thoughts on this kill...Volvo S60 vs M3...


david05111
11-15-2005, 09:25 PM
I saw this on another board and thought I would post it here...hope thats not against the rules as i am doing it in good faith. Any thoughts on this other than "Holy Crap!!"?

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player.aspx?fileid=2CE3FAE3-BAB9-4E52-B409-F6D2CC6C96E8&p=2

erikerikerik
11-15-2005, 09:44 PM
well, I'm not surpised at all. Volvo has built some friggen MONSTERS.

snaybird1000
11-15-2005, 09:48 PM
If it's an S60R or T6, and the M3 is an E36, the outcome is correct. The S60R is fast. A buddy of mine and I drove one a while back, and they are not to far behind E46 M3s speed wise...

ChaseBimmer
11-15-2005, 10:09 PM
Good god that things quick!

nickdrivesm3
11-15-2005, 10:10 PM
look at the cluster. Its an e46 M3. The volvo is a sleeper dude.

snaybird1000
11-15-2005, 10:12 PM
look at the cluster. Its an e46 M3. The volvo is a sleeper dude.

Definitely an S60R 6 speed. FAST CARS!

Xymox
11-15-2005, 10:17 PM
http://www.swedespeed.com/news/publish/Features/article_297.html

yes they can be made faster too. :)

Ryangates55
11-16-2005, 01:14 AM
But the car in the vid is definitley not an S60R, its an S60T5, im pretty sure. It has a 2.4 instead of a 2.5 like the S60R. You can also tell by the wheels and the body. Insane car though, super sleeper.

BSLMR
11-16-2005, 02:29 AM
Back when I had my GS400 I raced one on the freeway. We started at 70 and wound it out to 130. I had about half a car length on him :) but I'm pretty sure it was an auto.

Those things aren't the fastest, but they'll give you a run for your money.

gti1689
11-16-2005, 08:51 AM
alright dude, gs400 are def. rockets :rolleyes .

Der Abt
11-16-2005, 10:48 AM
Very impressive.
However, that Volvo was NOT stock at all.

A stock S60 T5 (260hp, 155mph, 0-60 in 6.1sec) can't beat an E46 M3.
Even an E46 M3 with a bad driver should be able to run away from a S60 T5.
But like some of you already said, they can be made very fast.

Now, there is another possibility, Volvo also produces an S60 R.
This car has 300hp and does 0-60 in 5.4sec.
But it doesn't look like it was that version.

redfoot
11-16-2005, 12:28 PM
Very impressive.
However, that Volvo was NOT stock at all.

A stock S60 T5 (260hp, 155mph, 0-60 in 6.1sec) can't beat an E46 M3.
Even an E46 M3 with a bad driver should be able to run away from a S60 T5.
But like some of you already said, they can be made very fast.

Now, there is another possibility, Volvo also produces an S60 R.
This car has 300hp and does 0-60 in 5.4sec.
But it doesn't look like it was that version.
Very true.

Stock the S60R's aren't anything to get exicited about. Most are probably auto's. Modded though, beware.

CdnR328i
11-16-2005, 12:34 PM
This has to be one of the few threads where most of us BMW owners acknowledge and give credit to another make!!! Well done guys.

Yes.....The R variants of a few Volvo's are quite fun drivers. Heaps of potential given they are turbo'd! I'm sure many have been surprised on the road by them!

brahtw8
11-16-2005, 12:37 PM
The cars involved were as follows:

M3 cab -02
Stock with SMG II

Volvo S60 T5 -03
3 inch exhaust and software, manual tranny.

The volvo was making 310 hp and 317 ft/lbs of torque before the exhaust.

The volvo got a jump on the M3 at the start. Without a head start, the two cars were neck and neck.

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=60592

m0ng0
11-16-2005, 02:30 PM
It looked like the volvo did have a head start, but even with the head start it was still gaining in 2 or 3 points. I don't know enough about that car so i won't make any assumptions, it won.

PAI
11-16-2005, 02:32 PM
The only way a stock S60R could beat a stock E46 M3 is at a high altitude. The M3 will pull on the S60R at sea level without any problem.

But yeah, there are some fast S60Rs on swedespeed, but they're of course are not stock. Lots of top end, also.

An E36 M3 might be a different story. If the R was in the same weight level as an M, it might be different as well.

stock E46 M3 > stock S60R

regards,

Paul

Fred00
11-16-2005, 03:02 PM
The cars involved were as follows:

M3 cab -02
Stock with SMG II

Volvo S60 T5 -03
3 inch exhaust and software, manual tranny.

The volvo was making 310 hp and 317 ft/lbs of torque before the exhaust.

The volvo got a jump on the M3 at the start. Without a head start, the two cars were neck and neck.

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=60592
Someone came with the correct info before I had to do it ;)

The M3 convertible is a little slower than the coupé and as brahtw8 stated the Volvo got a headstart. The cars were equally fast when both drivers gunned it at the same time. Still impressive results with minor mods.

Haifisch M3
11-16-2005, 10:28 PM
Very impressive.
However, that Volvo was NOT stock at all.

A stock S60 T5 (260hp, 155mph, 0-60 in 6.1sec) can't beat an E46 M3.
Even an E46 M3 with a bad driver should be able to run away from a S60 T5.
But like some of you already said, they can be made very fast.

Now, there is another possibility, Volvo also produces an S60 R.
This car has 300hp and does 0-60 in 5.4sec.
But it doesn't look like it was that version.

Even if that was the case, stock for stock this shouldn’t even be a contest. E46 M3 will destroy the S60 R. The numbers are all in the M3s favor; even the E36 beats the S60 R to the 1/4.
fast-autos.net/volvo/volvos60r.html
Of course, you can always find an example of any car beating another that’s superior. And then there is always the driver issue, although, I must say, I find it amusing to read that apparently some people do not even have the skill to stomp on the accelerator and make a quick shift near redline (I am talking about rolling launches here)

snaybird1000
11-16-2005, 11:54 PM
Ehh...you guys are underestimating the R. Even if the times aren't that of an E36 M3, it performs really close to one. Volvo's R series is supposed to challenge BMW's M division. The S60R is closer to the M3 than some are saying.

Ajax5678
11-17-2005, 09:21 PM
Volvo's are highway car's not from a dead stop. they are FWD based after all. (850's and newer). also the auto's are toque limited in 1rst and second I believe, 5-speeds are alot more fun, also you all know about the Overloaded 850. which does the 80kph-180kph run in something like 6 sec's?? there is a vid around here.

snaybird1000
11-17-2005, 10:52 PM
Volvo's are highway car's not from a dead stop. they are FWD based after all. (850's and newer). also the auto's are toque limited in 1rst and second I believe, 5-speeds are alot more fun, also you all know about the Overloaded 850. which does the 80kph-180kph run in something like 6 sec's?? there is a vid around here.

Volvo makes some pretty nice AWD cars now, too.

redfoot
11-17-2005, 10:54 PM
Ehh...you guys are underestimating the R. Even if the times aren't that of an E36 M3, it performs really close to one. Volvo's R series is supposed to challenge BMW's M division. The S60R is closer to the M3 than some are saying.
So your saying the new S60R is actually a match for a 7 year old E36 M3? I would agree.
But Volvo R's have a long way to go before they compete with the current M models. Lightyears infact.

Schneller Bayer
11-18-2005, 02:57 AM
This has to be one of the few threads where most of us BMW owners acknowledge and give credit to another make!!! Well done guys.

Yes.....The R variants of a few Volvo's are quite fun drivers. Heaps of potential given they are turbo'd! I'm sure many have been surprised on the road by them!
Actually we do that a lot.
.
As for the outcome...we all know what happens to TT cars w/ ecu upgrades.

Stock vs Stock, e46 m3 by a lot

silvere36328is
11-18-2005, 03:12 AM
stock for stock obviously the m3 would win, but the chip adds a LOT of power to those volvo's... so i have no doubt that the volvo would win against a stock e46 m3... das ist meine 2 cents :)

aeryk7
11-18-2005, 05:56 AM
Bottom line is it is a MODDED turbo car vs. a car that is non turbo and probably stock.

Just think of that car as an SRT-4 with MOPAR Stage 2 or 3 (decent stock , scary modded)

VOLVOs can be modded too....

Ultimate sleeper