View Full Version : Dyno graph from Dyno day at agile... For Glenn.


redrocket328
11-13-2005, 09:41 PM
Wuchucivic(glenn) wanted to see my dyno graph to compare his A/F ratio to mine so i thought i would just post it up for everyone to see.
I was a bit suprised by the torque numbers. I wasnt so suprised by the HP but the torque is was really suprised me. I dyno'd at 229 hp and 209 ft/lbs. last time and the only mods i have dont since then at Fan Delete, ASC delete, and AC delete and took off my UUC systemU exhaust. This dyno was with a stock M3 exhaust on. Here were the mods...

M50 manifold swap, Cosmos CAI, Fan Delete, A/C delete, ASC Delete

redrocket328
11-13-2005, 09:42 PM
A/F ratio

sKunkman
11-13-2005, 10:53 PM
Not bad for an M3 (RICH!)

redrocket328
11-14-2005, 12:59 AM
Rich as in my A/F ratio, or Rich as in my name????

sKunkman
11-14-2005, 03:01 AM
Rich as in RICH! (if you don't get it, you don't get it. the washington post).

clintjg
11-14-2005, 09:01 AM
Rich.

Poke2120
11-14-2005, 10:47 AM
Richard,

Nice numbers! My only thought in such a drastic increase in torque maybe could be that Agile constantly, from what I remember, changed around the ratios used to dyno our cars. I see a 4.005 ratio was used this time. Do you have your dyno sheet from the previous dyno day, what was the ratio used then? Just curious as to if they are different numbers or the same. Not saying anything.

nick325xit 5spd
11-14-2005, 10:52 AM
By any chance did they give you any real RWHP graphs, or was it just bullshit estimated flywheel graphs?

redrocket328
11-14-2005, 12:52 PM
Richard,

Nice numbers! My only thought in such a drastic increase in torque maybe could be that Agile constantly, from what I remember, changed around the ratios used to dyno our cars. I see a 4.005 ratio was used this time. Do you have your dyno sheet from the previous dyno day, what was the ratio used then? Just curious as to if they are different numbers or the same. Not saying anything.
The Ratios are the same from both this dyno day. It is quite simple actaully. You cant really change the ratios, its a given number. With a 3.23 differential, and a ratio of 1.24 in 4th gear, you do 3.23 x 1.24= 4.005 .

Mikey52
11-14-2005, 01:48 PM
By any chance did they give you any real RWHP graphs, or was it just bullshit estimated flywheel graphs?

That's how the Dynapacks display. It's still RWHP unless they dick with the correction factor.

nick325xit 5spd
11-14-2005, 02:36 PM
That's how the Dynapacks display. It's still RWHP unless they dick with the correction factor.
Ah.

That's stupid.

Poke2120
11-14-2005, 02:47 PM
The Ratios are the same from both this dyno day. It is quite simple actaully. You cant really change the ratios, its a given number. With a 3.23 differential, and a ratio of 1.24 in 4th gear, you do 3.23 x 1.24= 4.005 .

That is if you plug it in manually. I remember a lot of times when Agile would "let the computer decide the best ratio". Never really understood that. Anyway, if the ratios were the exact same from the last dyno day, cheers my friend :alright

Poke2120
11-14-2005, 02:51 PM
M50 manifold swap, Cosmos CAI, Fan Delete, A/C delete, ASC Delete

Never really understood why you removed your AC? This does not increase rwhp. On a track car I can see removing the AC to save weight, but on a street car? Come on. I understand it was broken, but it could have been fixed. Come 100+ degree summer time, or come resale time, you are going to be kicking yourself, hard.

redrocket328
11-14-2005, 02:54 PM
Never really understood why you removed your AC? This does not increase rwhp. On a track car I can see removing the AC to save weight, but on a street car? Come on. I understand it was broken, but it could have been fixed. Come 100+ degree summer time, or come resale time, you are going to be kicking yourself, hard.
When removing the A/C you are also removing the A/C belt, Just like the fan delete the A/C delete takes drag off of your engine. Now dont just say, "well then turn the A/C off!" The A/C belt is always spinning whether you have the A/C condensor turned on or off. Now i dont know if this actaully adds a significant horse power or not but it is taking drag off the engine, that is what i know.

nick325xit 5spd
11-14-2005, 03:06 PM
When removing the A/C you are also removing the A/C belt, Just like the fan delete the A/C delete takes drag off of your engine. Now dont just say, "well then turn the A/C off!" The A/C belt is always spinning whether you have the A/C condensor turned on or off. Now i dont know if this actaully adds a significant horse power or not but it is taking drag off the engine, that is what i know.
Is that your daily driver?

wushucivic
11-14-2005, 05:58 PM
wow your curves are very similar to mine except for the added torque. they used a slightly different scale but if you compare rpm to the value you can see they are close. you even have the same annoying dip in torque from 3000 to 3500 rpm.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/wushu_m3/dynoafr.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/wushu_m3/hpdynograph.jpg

redrocket328
11-14-2005, 08:08 PM
Is that your daily driver?
Yes it is my daily driver... for now.

Poke2120
11-14-2005, 08:32 PM
Yes it is my daily driver... for now.

A daily driver in 100+ degree weather as well. :confused

redrocket328
11-14-2005, 10:41 PM
A daily driver in 100+ degree weather as well. :confused
Thats how we roll in B-more.
Its called windows down sunroof back...
WHy you always gotta be dissin' my shyt. If you dont like it, dont do it to your car then.

VRRHEUM
11-15-2005, 03:58 AM
Yea deford "Why you always gotta be dissin' my shyt." well his shyt.

-Scott

Bav///Man
11-15-2005, 06:13 PM
What is the gain?

redrocket328
11-15-2005, 06:18 PM
What is the gain?
Not sure, i did the Fan delete and the A/c Delete at the same time. The huge difference that i noticed was the throttle responce. I noticed that it was pulling harder too, but that could have just been in my imagination.

vjlax18
11-15-2005, 06:34 PM
What a great imagination...

Bav///Man
11-15-2005, 06:35 PM
I mean the gain figure on the dyno sheet

Poke2120
11-15-2005, 08:52 PM
What a great imagination...

:lol

vjlax18
11-15-2005, 10:12 PM
But hey, I don't have A/C in either of my BMW's...imagine that.

redrocket328
11-16-2005, 01:57 AM
But hey, I don't have A/C in either of my BMW's...imagine that.
I do have quite the imagination, Did you hear scotts dumb fcuk up today at brants?

VRRHEUM
11-16-2005, 03:11 AM
I felt like an idiot - and i want to be a mechanic too
I went home and wiped my tears with all my money

-Scott

VRRHEUM
11-16-2005, 03:46 AM
^ Notice that Henry doesn't have any comebacks of his own so he Poke's fun at people using others responces. And you think the private college boy could at least come up with something.

I'm expecting him to reply to this with "F**k you Vernon you're fat" - to which I will respond - "Well at least I am somewhat liked"

-Scott

P.S. Im comming to elon I hope its alright

Poke2120
11-16-2005, 10:51 AM
^ Notice that Henry doesn't have any comebacks of his own so he Poke's fun at people using others responces. And you think the private college boy could at least come up with something.

I'm expecting him to reply to this with "F**k you Vernon you're fat" - to which I will respond - "Well at least I am somewhat liked"

-Scott

P.S. Im comming to elon I hope its alright

Me poking fun at people? Thats all you've done for the past 2.5 years I've known you, is poke fun at people.

Call me if you'd like to talk about this some more. Doby is right, personal shit like this doesnt belong posted on the MD forum. Please call me, go ahead.

vjlax18
11-16-2005, 10:56 AM
Kiddies, please take this offline.

But:
Richard - Did you find the Thermostat yet?
Scott - Take a tire iron to your battery.
Henry - Ritalin, take some.

Jed
11-16-2005, 11:31 AM
Internet arguing is ghey.

You guys should settle this like real men and have a dance off.

redrocket328
11-16-2005, 11:46 AM
Kiddies, please take this offline.

But:
Richard - Did you find the Thermostat yet?
Scott - Take a tire iron to your battery.
Henry - Ritalin, take some.
:lol :lol


:para: :rock: ............ :ninja
Scott--- Me --Henry-------Some other dude

wushucivic
11-16-2005, 05:38 PM
Internet arguing is ghey.

You guys should settle this like real men and have a dance off.
oooooohhhh you guys got served!!!!!!!!!!

Jed
11-16-2005, 07:39 PM
oooooohhhh you guys got served!!!!!!!!!!

:eek:

redrocket328
11-16-2005, 07:43 PM
:eek:
Oh snappp.......
Instead of a show called family fued. A show that would be great and very intertaining is Team DDR Fued...:redspot

VRRHEUM
11-16-2005, 10:43 PM
Yea my bad
Im sorry henry
-Scott

Poke2120
11-16-2005, 10:57 PM
Yea my bad
Im sorry henry
-Scott

Its coo, just didn't really understand where it came from.

redrocket328
11-16-2005, 11:06 PM
kiss and make up you too....:love1 :love1 :love :love