I have a 330ci Step with an ECIS intake. I think this takes me out of stock class?

Now that I did a few auto-xs I want to start being more competitive. I always run in the STD or STD-X class. What class should I run in? Seems like my cold air intake takes me out of the stock and puts me into the modifieds.

I have not heard of that class. Is it a local class?

STX would be my best guess if your tires are not wider than 225. Otherwise its one of the SP classes or SM. You would need more than an intake to compete in SM if the other drivers are not too bad.

I could not find the exact SP class for the car but I bet its either BSP or DSP.

Depends on what club you run with. If you're talking about the classification rules that SCCA uses for their events, then yes, an ECIS intake does take you out of Stock class, and puts you into either Prepared, Street Prepared, Street Modified, or possibly STX. You're hopelessly underprepared for Prepared, since there are real race cars in that class. SP, SM, or STX are possibilities - if you run only locally and no one brings out a fully prepped car, you have a chance in any of these three categories. However, since you're running on street tires, I'd pretty much say that you'll get whupped in SP or SM, if anyone halfway serious on R tires shows up. STX is a good possibility, since it's a street tire class, but you have to run tires less than 225 in width.

I'd suggest just putting back on the stock intake, and getting yourself a set of R tires. Then run in D-Stock, where the 330 is proving itself to be VERY competitive at the National Level.

Jim

gibba: houston scca will put you in DSP or STX for the SCCA events. but, since your new you may slide into the stock class depending on the tech. there was this one guy with an m3 who had an intake only and they put him into B-stock.

If you are running street tires, I'd stick with an ST* class. That way you can still be competitive.

If you go to an SP class, you'll be running against people on R-compounds. R compounds will give them a 2-3 second advantage at Greyhound park.

If you go to SM, you'll be running against ME!!:D And I usually come prepared!

I'll be out there for the next event.... September 1st. SM runs in the afternoon. Gotta start showing and make my 8 events for the year.

Later,
John.

PS- Still running the M3. Cam won't be here for another week or so. Damn, I want the mustang running!

John: sorry man i can't make it on the 1st for the auto-x since BSP runs in the afternoon. i have family stuff to take care of. i am going to the a&m practice that saturday. are you going?

Unless I'm forgetting something, that car should work in STS -- another good place for the 330ci. But that or DS as Jim mentioned you have all kinds of possibility.

But don't worry so much about mods initially, enjoy yourself, keep racing, and you'll get faster.

Originally posted by BJO
John: sorry man i can't make it on the 1st for the auto-x since BSP runs in the afternoon. i have family stuff to take care of. i am going to the a&m practice that saturday. are you going?

I probably won't make A&M.... although there is always the possibility.

I'm heading to Boston tomorrow for a week... not sure what will be on the schedule when I get back. If there is nothing happening, then I might schlep on up to A&M to see what is going on.

Most of those guys will be using that practice to scrub-in tires for Nationals (3 weeks away)... so I should probably go up there and bust on them some!:D

I've actually been competing really well in DSP my past few events...

I jumped over to DSP because I'm running 235/40 17 tires... but I've found that the additional tires do enough to my performance that I'm actually running significantly better (and scoring significantly better places in the novice ladder) than I did on stock wheels in DS...

my plan is to build up my suspension, probably grab another set of crap 17's and throw racing tires on them, and compete Solely in DSP....

I've actually also found the competition is a little lighter in DSP... at least in the DC area, the DS drivers are some of the better drivers in the competition, and they constantly spank me... in DSP I'm running 3rd in class....

-Scott

I don't think the ECIS intake takes you out of stock.

To get out of the stock class with an intake, the filter location must be changed. I.E. the Dinan intake kicks you out of stock, but ECIS is ok.

Originally posted by someguy
I don't think the ECIS intake takes you out of stock.

To get out of the stock class with an intake, the filter location must be changed. I.E. the Dinan intake kicks you out of stock, but ECIS is ok.
Nope. If you're talking about SCCA rules, you're totally wrong. Any aftermarket intake, including ECIS, Dinan, JimC, etc. will put you out of stock class. The only change you're allowed to make is to change the air filter element to an aftermarket one, like the K&N or ITG. The air box and the rest of the air induction system must remain stock. Look up rule 13.10.A in your rulebook.

Jim

Originally posted by Jim O.

Nope. If you're talking about SCCA rules, you're totally wrong. Any aftermarket intake, including ECIS, Dinan, JimC, etc. will put you out of stock class. The only change you're allowed to make is to change the air filter element to an aftermarket one, like the K&N or ITG. The air box and the rest of the air induction system must remain stock. Look up rule 13.10.A in your rulebook.

Jim

oops :embarrasm