Yesterday I test drove a 2006 Mustang GT

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Car was black on black with leather, the 500W sound system, standard wheels

When I just started checking out the car, I said it wasn't bad. I like the exterior. The interior didn't seem too bad from the outside. I had a smile on my face.

The salesman then puts the key in the ignition and starts it, then walks back inside. I sit in it. I turn to my friend Aaron and said "Damn, I feel so cheap just sitting here." The dash looks like bleh and feels like crap. The metal part on the dash is hideous. There is almost NO legroom in back. The car had coat hanger for sway bars also.

So we finally drive off. We drive around the block and he tells me to go back to the dealer. I tell him I wanna see how it handles, and he takes me into a cemetary. The cemetary has some great roads.

Driving wise:
The mustang has POWER. Feels really good gunning it. Seats weren't bad, pretty comfortable.
The handling was horrible. The car has 235 PZero Neros all around. It was a bit wet on the floor, but ti wasnt raining. All the car did was slide around and had massive body roll. Not a great feeling.
I went over a small bump going 45 and the car nearly went sideways.
The solid rear axle was irritating me immensly. Salesman was holding on for dear life with both hands as my friend sat in the back with no leg room.
I put the OBD on to average MPG. Everytime I gunned it it dipped VERY low.... very very very low.

So we go back to the dealer and I parked the car. We go inside, the guy in the car was an idiot basically. He hands over the sale to someone else. The guy was trying to tell me there is an extra $5000 charge for manual transmissions. Then later he says he will be cool and take the $5000 off and an extra $1000 off because my friend and I were "such nice kids" :rolleyes


So my opinion:
it wasn't the worst car on the road, but it sucked. They were asking $30k for it. Who in their right minds would pay 30k for such garbage? For $20k, it would be a great buy.
The car needs some THICK sway bars to even consider making turns. The solid rear axle is horrid.

yeah it was pretty bad

30K? get a 325i!

For 30k I would get an STi.

Iagree. For around 24k I'd buy one, pushing 30k don't think so. The price will drop like a rock by years end

The excitement has worn off on these cars, and pricing is back to what they should be. Still pretty neat, considering it's only $24K for V8 power.

did you really expect anything more from a ford? I still wanna go beat the shit out of one regardless.

The excitement has worn off on these cars, and pricing is back to what they should be. Still pretty neat, considering it's only $24K for V8 power.
MSRP is $26k for GT Delux and $27k for GT Premium.

Will end up at like $30k after all the options and bullshit.

Not a great buy.

I sat in one of the GT's at the LA Auto Show. The interior was a joke, and the gear selector was horrible. Not an enthusiasts car, to say the least

I sat in one of the GT's at the LA Auto Show. The interior was a joke, and the gear selector was horrible. Not a BMW enthusiasts car, to say the least
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Haha sounds you like you had fun. What a piece of junk. I've always disliked those cars. There is nothing good going for it in my opinion, crappy handling, crappy interior, crappy exterior, crappy power, crappy price. For that kind of money a EVO or Sti would be a much better buy.

Didn't the Mustang effort win the sports car racing series on Speed Channel?

God, i have to go back to OT? will you guys get over interior bashing already? Its lame, negative, and reflects poorly.

The interior is like a 66/68 on steroids. Im impressed,. Its a mustang, not a pcar or benz. But most badge whores dont realize that.

My input: The car handles great if you know how to drive. Im suprised its still as light in the back but the front end from the LS chassis makes up for it. I cant feel the 300 horses, feels identical to my 03 i had. But its oodles and oodles better than the sn95/99 chassis. A great car with a token for a backseat but its been that way everyyear but 72-74 and lets not go there :nono:

A great starter platform and the car sounds really really good. First mustang ever I wouldnt mod the exhaust.

Personally, im secretly waiting for about 18 months after the GT 500 release

Sort of OT but has anyone driven one of the 2005+ GTO's I here they absolutely destroy the Mustang GT and even give the new vettes a run for there money.

they are fast. No matter which way you slice it

shit for 30k id buy a.. well what you have ha ha, rock on.

-Spargo

For 30k..subaru WRX, used M3, used C5 Vette, Fox Body Mustang w/ all the goodies (supercharger, 347, or whatever..and pocket the other $15k), the list goes on and on. I love the new mustangs, don't get me wrong, but not for that price. Or just buy use for a lot less....

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The car doesn't handle well out of the box it's just like any mustang it takes a lot of work to get to were it can handle decently. The front end on the S197 isn't like the LS aka the DEW98 platform. The DEW98-based Lincoln LS used a 4-wheel independent double wishbone suspension. The S197 platform is a McPherson strut front suspension. The Mustangs S197 platform shares front strut and other suspension components with the Mazda3 and its C1 platform.<o:p></o:p>
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The GT500 isn’t any better. In fact it’s a poor excuse for a SVT and extreme example of Ford cost cutting the crap out of everything. The suspension is borderline dangerous. With all the complaints about the IRS in the last gen Cobras it’s funny that the GT500 has the same problem with wheel hop. The rear brakes on it are shared with the rest of the mustang line up even the V6.<o:p></o:p>
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To even see a decent product from Ford you have to see what they produce over seas. There North American lineup is pure crap GT500 included. Look at the Focus the Euro Focus gets the new C1 platform and even a 2.5 L I5 derived from Volvo as used in the S40 T5, the <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">Focus ST</st1:address></st1:Street> has a turbo I5 that makes 236 torque. While it looks like the ones here are stuck with the old platform for a while. Then there is the Aussie Falcon it’s too bad that the American market wont get to see cars like the FPV GT-P.<o:p></o:p>

Mitt, i would have to say you know a lot about suspension. Though if you put 2k in a Fox and you will be out handling the lightweight e36 M3.
I havnt driven the new mustang, but as far as i know its got a balanced suspention. I here people saying the new mustangs handle like shit, it has tons of body roll and crap. I can confidently say that the new mustang has as much body roll as a non-M e36. My car still has body roll and i got H&R race springs.

body roll sucks its probably my least favorite thing in a car, i can handle a car being under powered or even not handling that well (g-rating wise) but when the body rolls and you loose confidence in your ability to keep the car on the up and up its just all bad from there.

-Spargo

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The car doesn't handle well out of the box it's just like any mustang it takes a lot of work to get to were it can handle decently. The front end on the S197 isn't like the LS aka the DEW98 platform. The DEW98-based Lincoln LS used a 4-wheel independent double wishbone suspension. The S197 platform is a McPherson strut front suspension. The Mustangs S197 platform shares front strut and other suspension components with the Mazda3 and its C1 platform.<o:p></o:p>
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The GT500 isn’t any better. In fact it’s a poor excuse for a SVT and extreme example of Ford cost cutting the crap out of everything. The suspension is borderline dangerous. With all the complaints about the IRS in the last gen Cobras it’s funny that the GT500 has the same problem with wheel hop. The rear brakes on it are shared with the rest of the mustang line up even the V6.<o:p></o:p>
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To even see a decent product from Ford you have to see what they produce over seas. There North American lineup is pure crap GT500 included. Look at the Focus the Euro Focus gets the new C1 platform and even a 2.5 L I5 derived from Volvo as used in the S40 T5, the <st1:street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">Focus ST</st1:address></st1:street> has a turbo I5 that makes 236 torque. While it looks like the ones here are stuck with the old platform for a while. Then there is the Aussie Falcon it’s too bad that the American market wont get to see cars like the FPV GT-P.<o:p></o:p>

Totally agree with your statement. Also, the Ford Mondeo is one of the nicest cars out there in Europe, sells like crazy, yet here you get the Ford 500, etc...They are in trouble for a reason, because the people in charge of what to sell are flat out nuts. Sell the Focus, and Focus R here, Mondeo, and that badass Falcon. If Ford did that here, they would get a hell of a jump start. Oh, they ruined the Cobra GT500. 3900 lbs.??? The 03-04 Mustang Cobra will live on as an icon because it's a great car with a great suspension (by Ford standards).

Totally agree with your statement. Also, the Ford Mondeo is one of the nicest cars out there in Europe, sells like crazy, yet here you get the Ford 500, etc...They are in trouble for a reason, because the people in charge of what to sell are flat out nuts. Sell the Focus, and Focus R here, Mondeo, and that badass Falcon. If Ford did that here, they would get a hell of a jump start. Oh, they ruined the Cobra GT500. 3900 lbs.??? The 03-04 Mustang Cobra will live on as an icon because it's a great car with a great suspension (by Ford standards).

1) The Mondeo is a Mondeo, not a 500 (they look nothing alike minus the ugly ass oval badge). The Mondeo in Europe is made to be a family sedan. The lines, everything in it screems young gen. The 500 looks like an old mans car

2) Ford made the biggest mistake, for which I hope they burn, by not introducing the C1 Focus when it came out 2-3 years ago. I cannot believe how buttugly the facelift is, and I most definately cannot believe how disgusting the 2nd gen Focus in the US is - they've made it look cheaper than the 1st gen

3) there's no Focus R, there's a Focus ST (before that there was a RS)

4) Look at GM - they're doing the right thing and starting to import the whole Opel lignup under the brand saturn. They will succeed due to the Astra/ Vectra/ Speedster being badass cars (hopefully) Ford on the other hand have nothing attractive ot offer in NA as of 2007.

5) weren't we talking about mustangs? :devillook

6) who resurrected this thread?

Meh

you know, you will be banned for doing that ricepatrol.

I drove one of these things this weekend. Some things I expected to be nice weren't, things I expected to suck didn't. The pedel feel and shifter feel were much nicer than expected, but that thing did NOT feel like 300 hp. It seemed to have very little torque, especially not low end. I did not get that seat of the pants feel of the car.

The interior was crap as expected, but the exhaust had a very nice note. I owned the sales guy on saftey. he made a comment, "Ford is all about saftey and efficency" (yeah with 17/25mpg?) So I asked, "How many airbags does this have?"

"uh, two"

"Are side airbags an option?"

"no, not on the mustang"

We test drove a few cars saturday. We were at Toyota, CarMax and BMW everywhere was PACKED with cars. But we were the ONLY customers at the Ford dealership. Sort of sad. But they are also not offering any good deals on the cars right now.

when i was looking at one it was horrible. Horrible build quality, horrible brakes, horrible handling. Way to big and bulky and way to under tired.

My 54 yr old mothers daily driver is an 06' Mustang GT, so I have gotten a chance at driving one before. I agree with a lot of what has been said, but with those that say the cars are slow for the money I simply can't. I think they paid right around $27K for a Silver/Blk lthr car with all options except an Automatic. In a straight line the car really has all the power 235 series tires can handle in lower gears. The gearbox, although stiffer then what the average driver may think, is far easier to shift then previous Mustangs (Owned a 93 GT, 93 Cobra, and 99 GT in the past between my dad and I). Also, the handling is not precise, but if you wrestle the car and really drive it, it will hustle. When I hustle my GTI it is a much more precise driving experience. Everything is lighter to the touch and I rely more on the ideal line to carry momentum. In the Mustang, you feel like you have to wrestle the steering wheel to get it to turn and feather the gas to help the car turn. I may have a higher peak speed in some turns in the GTI, but the Mustang will always make it up and more pulling out of corners. The brakes are not adequate for the weight of the car though. They don't have good feel at all and will overheat with track use, I'm told.

the good thing about those mustangs is that they are only 1/10th slower 0-60 than the gto, so if you want a straight line car which a lot of people really only care about, its the way to go. Throw on a SC and your at 450 hp

The GTO is the way to go or the mustang? I'd go GTO though not that much better Pontiac is a step above ford in build quality, and the GTO has a better power potential too i believe.

-Spargo

what do they make for horse stock?

new gto 400 hp, new mustang gt 300hp

a friend of mine has a 05 and he picked it up new for 25k. Not for nothing i have in the car with him running a e46 m3, and had the e46 by about a half a car. They dont do to bad with some supension mods. THey can be had for 25k new, and with light mods it will be an STi, or a e46 m3. This doesnt mean i would choose it over alot of cars, but its not a bad deal.

I test drove an 07 'Stang. I Liked everything except the fact that a 6 foot man can't keep his right knee from touching the dash... I felt claustrophobic.

I test drove an 07 'Stang. I Liked everything except the fact that a 6 foot man can't keep his right knee from touching the dash... I felt claustrophobic.


Unfortunately thats how they design them, I have no idea why. Maybe because most of their market is V6 and women that are shorter? I dunno.

There is a simple mod you can do to lengthen the seat track so its comfortable should that be the only limiting factor to buying one.

it wasn't the worst car on the road, but it sucked.
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my stepdad snagged one up for 20k (2005) 5 speed with the 500w sound system and no other mods.

I don't like the handling ethier, but that solid rear axle has it's uses. that car can LAUNCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And the v8 is a bit strained up top, but a cold air fixes that. my big point is that the car is so stupidly easy to drive, it's comfortable and the v8 is soooooooooooo smooth.

my stepdad snagged one up for 20k (2005) 5 speed with the 500w sound system and no other mods.

I don't like the handling ethier, but that solid rear axle has it's uses. that car can LAUNCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And the v8 is a bit strained up top, but a cold air fixes that. my big point is that the car is so stupidly easy to drive, it's comfortable and the v8 is soooooooooooo smooth.

Agreed.

Brother just bought a new 2007 GT 5-speed. He's got 500W stereo, leather, no sunroof. Also has the 3.55 LSD (great option).

He's got new mufflers (Pypes) and a CAI...

It's quick and fun. WAAAY undertired and it sits too high. I like the traction control, seemed invisible and well-calibrated.

Needs suspension mods before anything else, but it's fun to drive. The shifter felt nicer than I expected it would...

I drove one... an 05 GT with a 5-speed.

The car behaved like a wet noodle. It seriously felt like a loose gathering of parts that mysteriously stuck around each other as if there was some body in the center of the car that they were orbiting. Definitely not a ride for the twisties.

Find some open, STRAIGHT, SMOOTH road, and run it through the gears - that's where it's fun, and that's where the glaring inadequacies of the suspension are negligible.

If you're looking for a modern Mustang, the best you can do is the 03/04 SVT Cobra. They have a real IRS, 400hp, and huge mod potential. They aren't as popular or good looking as the new ones, but they don't plagiarize the past either, and can look great with some minor mods.

The new GT500 is a joke. It's heavy beyond belief, it still has the live-axle rear suspension, and in spite of having 500hp, it still can't beat a 400hp C6 (stock for stock). Factor in the price, which is on par with a C6 Z06, and you really have to question the mindset of someone who buys a GT500.

Modded is a whole different ballgame, though, but it needs a TON of suspension work for a real race (road course).

I would take an e46 m3 for 25k :)

I drove one... an 05 GT with a 5-speed.

The car behaved like a wet noodle. It seriously felt like a loose gathering of parts that mysteriously stuck around each other as if there was some body in the center of the car that they were orbiting. Definitely not a ride for the twisties.

Find some open, STRAIGHT, SMOOTH road, and run it through the gears - that's where it's fun, and that's where the glaring inadequacies of the suspension are negligible.

If you're looking for a modern Mustang, the best you can do is the 03/04 SVT Cobra. They have a real IRS, 400hp, and huge mod potential. They aren't as popular or good looking as the new ones, but they don't plagiarize the past either, and can look great with some minor mods.

The new GT500 is a joke. It's heavy beyond belief, it still has the live-axle rear suspension, and in spite of having 500hp, it still can't beat a 400hp C6 (stock for stock). Factor in the price, which is on par with a C6 Z06, and you really have to question the mindset of someone who buys a GT500.

Modded is a whole different ballgame, though, but it needs a TON of suspension work for a real race (road course).


Really? I didnt know the GT500 is that slow..sad. :(

Anyway..yeah, the handling, is, well, Ive had RWD buicks that handle more predictably. I know why they went with the live axle, but the way those things handle is bizarre...Ive been in much better handling live axle cars.

Sad that they orient the mustang around drag racing. It was supposed to be their sports car. Back in the day, it was the job of the Galaxies and Torinos to do their heavy drag racing work.

when i was looking at one it was horrible. Horrible build quality, horrible brakes, horrible handling. Way to big and bulky and way to under tired.

You should have drive anything 2004--thats truly frightening. However, the build quality is way beyond the previous models.

I rented a convertible and enjoyed it. The handling in long radius turns was not great. Overall, though, a nice driving experience. I wouldn't take it autocrossing out of the box, but thats not what it was meant for anyways.

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Really? I didnt know the GT500 is that slow..sad. :(

Anyway..yeah, the handling, is, well, Ive had RWD buicks that handle more predictably. I know why they went with the live axle, but the way those things handle is bizarre...Ive been in much better handling live axle cars.

Sad that they orient the mustang around drag racing. It was supposed to be their sports car. Back in the day, it was the job of the Galaxies and Torinos to do their heavy drag racing work.

lol well it's not "slow" but for a 500hp car, yes, it's slow. HP and price put it in line with the C6 Z06, but weight makes its performance in line with a standard C6. Hence all the magazine tests that came out afterwards, and every one had the GT500 losing by a tenth or so in a straight line and losing by a handful of seconds on a road course (huge).

It's a shame really, because the GT500 looks so damn good, but the weight, high CG, and archaic suspension just hold it back... if it weighed less and that weight was lower and if the suspension wasn't based on 60's thinking, it could be one hell of a ride. I had higher hopes, especially after seeing the 03/04 Cobra with 400hp and an IRS. Those actually handled decently for what they were...

Of course, a few mods and it's all over... a local guy has a GT500 with a pulley swap and some other bolt ons, he's over 500 at the wheels. Too easy to get more power... his ride is fast as all hell.

They do look downright sinister. I wonder why they dont offer the IRS as an option? Is it because they dissolved SVT?

the mustang is horrible. rubbish build quiality, rubbish rear axel, rubbish suspension, rubbish brakes, and the interior is bland and full of rubber and plastic. 4.6 liters and only 300 hp (at the crank)? Bleh.

OH, Rubbish!

A couple months ago, I see this Mustang GT on track, so I'm all exited because I've never seen one perform. I passed him so fast he might as well have been going backwards. I'm slow and my car was in terrible shape at the time (it was out for testing), so this should not have happened! Immediately I lost all respect for the Mustangs.

I thought maybe it was a REALLY terrible driver or something, but from what I'm seeing here, I guess not!

I hate ford....

30K? get a 325i!

Why would you want to go that slow. Plus you should be able to get the GT for around $25-26k.

American cars: great in the straights!
Try drifting that bitch. I know someone who tried he said it didnt turn at all and he had the worst spinout of his life.

The auto trans is a extra charge, the 5speed is FREE look on fords site


And I drove one and liked it alot, much better than the older ones

FYI alot of newer mustangs are getting road races...


The cars are really detuned, so a re flash really wakes it up

And the sus is also nummed out, some simple mods for not much really change the whole car...


Good deal for the money, show me a 25K car that goes 13s, and is RWD with nice options

350Zs to me are over expensive, and those are pigs also the 07 ones I can call quick now

i like the 02-04 mustang styles better i think and i heard they were a better car? is their any truth to this...??

i almost bought an 03 mustang GT and was going to heavily mod the suspension (new shocks/lowered etc...) and all the bolt on's since they're pretty cheap and it would go like hell im told... but i dont know if its a good idea after reading this... even though i only have fun/race in the strait lines mostly (highway)...

idk, i just heard the 03/04ish GT's were better then the new ones? handling and performance! anyone know? especially since they can be picked up with 25K miles for only 12K now...

always, how do mustang do with reliability? past 100K? or people should be worried past 75K?

the new gt's handle alot better then the model it replaced, and the interior is worlds better then the other mustangs.

Yeah they are nice but they are what they are . Cool cars though

Heavy old world pig. My dad has the Saleen S281 of this new body style and I smoke him in every way in my 9 year old BMW. Except for looks. His car looks mean as hell.

Heavy old world pig. My dad has the Saleen S281 of this new body style and I smoke him in every way in my 9 year old BMW. Except for looks. His car looks mean as hell.

unless your car is modded heavily, I really doubt a later model saleen would do anything but hand you your own face.



Seriously, everyone who hates the car has never driven one. Everyone I have ever spoken to who hates ford never drives any of the cars, and everyone I know who hates fords and has driven the mustang has said it's a hell of a lot of car for the money.

you get a 300hp v8 with tons of room to modify, a MUSTANG badge (which come on, what other motoring icon even comes close? It's about as recognizable as coke) all for 25 grand.


And on the drifting front, they do fabulously with the LSD. an open diff model will spin, but so will any car with an open differential.


Sure the build quality isn't perfect. but it looks great and is a downsight better than many other things in the price range. Sure the engine is a bit strained, but it's smooth, torquey, and has nothing but room for cheap improvement. It's comfortable, even when modded, looks fantastic, is cheap, and good in a straight line. Outside of handling (that includes steering feel and brakes) It's a pretty darn good piece of machinery.


And what affordable engine sounds better than a ford 5.0 or 4.6?

^ +1

ive been look at a 03/04 GT's with less then 30K and they only go for like 12K now in mint condition... for the power and someone who isn't big on the twisties.. i dont think you can find a better buy for 12ishK... also not to mention if you lowwe it a couple inches and replace shocks with bilstein or something performance, you will now how a Great car and buy for 12K

better then buying a 02/01 bmww w/ 90K for 16K if you ask me...!

unless your car is modded heavily, I really doubt a later model saleen would do anything but hand you your own face.



Seriously, everyone who hates the car has never driven one. Everyone I have ever spoken to who hates ford never drives any of the cars, and everyone I know who hates fords and has driven the mustang has said it's a hell of a lot of car for the money.

you get a 300hp v8 with tons of room to modify, a MUSTANG badge (which come on, what other motoring icon even comes close? It's about as recognizable as coke) all for 25 grand.


And on the drifting front, they do fabulously with the LSD. an open diff model will spin, but so will any car with an open differential.


Sure the build quality isn't perfect. but it looks great and is a downsight better than many other things in the price range. Sure the engine is a bit strained, but it's smooth, torquey, and has nothing but room for cheap improvement. It's comfortable, even when modded, looks fantastic, is cheap, and good in a straight line. Outside of handling (that includes steering feel and brakes) It's a pretty darn good piece of machinery.


And what affordable engine sounds better than a ford 5.0 or 4.6?
The problem is when you want to go around a corner. Or brake. And yes my car can take my dad's car we play all the time. His is good at going fast in a straight line and looking good. Everything else isn't even a competition with my old E36. He even admits its not the greatest car. Before that, he was driving a 996 C4S. This just gets him more looks. And I have driven it many many times. I kinda like a gimmick. It's really fun for about thirty minutes and then it just feels like a faster Taurus or something. You get the feeling that they just threw a pretty good engine into the nearest chassis. Solid axle? 3800lbs? please...

The problem is when you want to go around a corner. Or brake. And yes my car can take my dad's car we play all the time. His is good at going fast in a straight line and looking good. Everything else isn't even a competition with my old E36. He even admits its not the greatest car. Before that, he was driving a 996 C4S. This just gets him more looks. And I have driven it many many times. I kinda like a gimmick. It's really fun for about thirty minutes and then it just feels like a faster Taurus or something. You get the feeling that they just threw a pretty good engine into the nearest chassis. Solid axle? 3800lbs? please...


Agreeing with the guy you replied to

I hear "Trash talk, trash talk, trash, trash, trash...." but I dont see any real data


Your empirical evaluation that sucks because it doesnt "feel" as "good" as your BMW Taurus is good for an opinion but bad for a judgement.

SOlid axle cars do feel differently. But in the heat of the moment, once you are used to them..magic can happen. No, it doesnt feel like a BMW. but hey, its solid axle. And BMW's dont "feel" like a mustang in the quarter either. So yes, my 740 SPort has longer legs than a mustang, probably can outturn it, and I know for damn sure is faster in the straightaway...until the modding starts. You are talking about a car that is almost desgined to be upgraded. So I drop software and M5 headers on my 740 and pick up maybe 30 rwhp. and $3000 dollars. for $3000 on that mustang...:help: The handling is the same way.

You cant just say the car "feels" different. And your analgoy to the taurus is absurd as my name calling on your e36. We both know its a load of horseshit

i found a 06' mustang GT fully loaded about 20K from my house at a small dealership... has 25K on it and the guy is only asking 18K for it... im deff thinking about picking it up..

18K for a 06' mustang GT seems like a good deal to me!

... mod the suspension and you have one hell of a summer car!

you all agree?

i found a 06' mustang GT fully loaded about 20K from my house at a small dealership... has 25K on it and the guy is only asking 18K for it... im deff thinking about picking it up..

18K for a 06' mustang GT seems like a good deal to me!

... mod the suspension and you have one hell of a summer car!

you all agree?


drive it. if you're a bmwphile (which face it, most of the people on this board are) and hate anything american, you'll despise it. But treat it like an american car (and really, unless you're roadracing cars over the summer, you're just ging to cruise around in it or occasionally let it stretch it's legs at a stoplight) and it just makes sense.

You really aren't going to find much more car for the money. Honest. And when the mod bug hits you, that 4.6 3 valve v8 is just a beautiful engine for tooling around with. It'll make more hp than any reasonable m3 for pennies.

oh, and 323i junkie, the mustang was designed to be upgraded. They've always built detuned mustangs so the people who buy them can spank another 2-300hp out of the engine for a few grand.

Yeah, Ford seems to have a pretty tight aftermarket division. They sell a lot more than trunklid badges, floormats, and high flow mass airflow sensors

Great car for the money, brand new car for under or around 30k and slighty over 30k depending on the options..

Your hard press to complain..

Lots of people at go FI with BMWs. You throw a huge amount of cash, get, say, 400-500RWHP, and pray for it to last 30 000kms. BUT you have real decent driving pleasure comming from suspension.
Now there is GT500, which can easily go to 800RWHP with stock internals and transmission. BUT it weights a lot, and handles badly.
My question is: is it easier to mod BMWs to reliable, huge horsepower, or to learn Shelby how to turn?

Lots of people at go FI with BMWs. You throw a huge amount of cash, get, say, 400-500RWHP, and pray for it to last 30 000kms. BUT you have real decent driving pleasure comming from suspension.
Now there is GT500, which can easily go to 800RWHP with stock internals and transmission. BUT it weights a lot, and handles badly.
My question is: is it easier to mod BMWs to reliable, huge horsepower, or to learn Shelby how to turn?


Looking at your car list, I dont think youll ever get the "feel" you are looking for from a mustang. But, we see plenty of mustangs smoking plenty of M3's in semi-pro competition, so obviously the answer is yes. Id go with the shelby. More individuality, more power. take the corner slower and the striaghtaway faster, and besides, you can get over .98 from a mustang


Not to mention the mustang looks badass and the m3, well, looks neutered to me

I bought a 06 GT a year ago... mean SOB although i really hoped that ford would upgrade the suspension to an independent one and shed some weight... but other than that you'll look good doing a burnout in that thing...
Yet again i'm %100 confident my 98 540i 6spd would kill it :D

by the way not trying to steal the topic but the mustang is up for sale for 17K

The 05+ GT's are really nice and they respond well to mods. I liked the clutch feel and low end grunt. But for the same price, you can pick up an 03-04 Cobra which puts out roughly 400 RWHP and will run 12's stock. With a pulley, tune and bolt ons you can see 500 without cracking open the engine. Most of you guys have noted that Mustangs handle like pigs stock and your right. Its a straight line car. I have driven both E36 and E46 3 series, and they blows away stock GTs around the corners. However, with the right suspension mods, you can get very solid handling.