so i was ebay and saw this car...I think its a scam so i emailed the guy to see what the deal is, so he emailed me back and wrote this.....

Hello,

My name is William Jonesby and I am the owner of the 2002 BMW 330CI 5spd, Sport M Pkg you
expressed interest on eBay. At this time I have removed the auction because I have
received many offers from people asking me for a trade with their car and money or simply
questions from people offering me less that the buy it now price. Attached are a few
pictures so you know what I am selling. If you need the complete description or more
pictures just let me know.
Final price is US $7,900 as I said on eBay. The car will be sold only if you meet the buy
it now of $7,900. I will not lower this buy it now price under any circumstance even if
you come to pick up the car yourself. The registration papers are all ok and it has US
clear title. It has all the US specs and passes all the emission tests. It can be
registered without problems in any state.
I have a price that might sound low because I am away from the country with my job and I
will not be able to sell the car in person. So I am ok with a lower price than have the
car sitting for nothing in the garage till I return. My only request is that we complete
the deal with eBay supervision. If we reach a deal I will request eBay to assign an agent
to be the third party in our sale.
I work by the principle that I don’t touch your money until you receive and inspect the
goods. I hope that you are ok to make the deal by eBay since this way is the only way
that I can move forward.
Since I saw a strong interest from you and because I need the money I have contacted eBay
and asked them to send you the invoice hoping that I can speed things up a bit. Please
wait for the eBay invoice and contact me after you read it with your questions.

I hope that all this info was enough to start your interest in buying my car and I look
for your emails with questions that you might have.

My best regards
Will

What do you guys think? Scam or no scam?

does that REALLY sound ligit to you?

no...I told him i need a copy of the title...To prove it

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lolol

thats a straight up, classic scam!!! tell him to eff off

im going to...Once i heard the out of country thing i knew it was a scam

I think i had the same conversation with this guy about a month ago. post a pic. of the car & I'll be able to tell you for sure...

he emailed me back and said....

Hello,
As I promised here you will find the description of the car. You have the pictures from
the previous email.
So it’s a 2002 model with only 49,000 miles on board. This car is a jam with a rare Steel
Blue Metallic exterior color (BMW-Stahlgrau Metallic) and black leather interior. Plus
it is a coupe and it is a 5 speed manual, which makes this car a very hard combination to
find. Oil changes were made at 5000 miles instead of 15,500 suggested by BMW using
Castrol Synthetic oil. This Car has all the options you need. Among many of them such
options as: Sport Package, 4 wheels ABS Brakes, Traction Control, Dynamic Stability, 2
Front Airbags, 2 Side Airbags, Digital Climate Control, Sun Roof, Aluminum Interior Trim,
Sport ///M Wheels (Front:225/45-17, Rear:245/40/17), 8 Way Adjustable, Power, Sport Seats
(with 3 memory settings), It even has such option as heated windshield nozzles sprinklers
in case water freezes. The car also has Heated Door Locks and Heated Mirrors for your
convenience as well. Averaging about 27 miles per gallon. The engine in this car is 3.0L
straight six with 4 valves per cylinder.
NON SMOKER CAR AND THE INTERIOR IS ABSOLUTELY SUPERB.
Now I have talked with the people at the eBay office here and there are two ways we can
complete this. Since I am away from the country as I told you previously you are required
to make a deposit payment to an agent that eBay will assign for this sale.
Then either you come to my place to inspect the car and pay the balance on the spot (I
will fly back there for you) or you let me ship the car to your place (this way the
shipping cost is paid by me included in the buy it now of $7,900). It’s up to you to
decide but please note that I will not move forward unless you make the deposit as you
will be instructed by eBay in the invoice.
You should receive the invoice from eBay today so please wait for it and then get back to
me with all your questions.
If you have other questions please let me know. I want to give you all the info so we can
complete the sale asap. I really need this money to arrange my house here.
Thank you,
Will

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b128/rob0589/4.jpg

^thers a pic of the one i saw on ebay

sounds way too good to be true. He can walk into a dealer and they would give him at a total rip off price $15K.

something tells me the 3rd party agent will be an "escrow" service.

prob i know its a scam

Scary...I went thru several of these scams on autotrader before I got my 02 330. Thing to watch out for is the ebay invoice he's talking about might look exactly like ebay but it isnt. Contact ebay and ask them if they have this 3rd party agent he's talking about and dont go off of any ebay links he sends you cuz they will link you to bogus scam ebay sites. I got almost duplicate reponses from several guys when i was looking for my car. Its so funny how they stick to the same story. I recently had a friend get scammed out of 2k this way and trying to get it back isnt easy. The old rule holds true...unless you can see it for yourself, then its too good to be true.

and this it the email from the suppose ebay ahaha

Congratulations - You Have Been Selected As Winning Buyer! 2002 BMW 330CI 5spd, Sport M PkgItem number: 4587371670 Seller: William Jonesby (32 Fillmore Street,ap #25 , London , SE6 1YH, United Kingdom), series3convertible@msn.comEnd date: November-04-05 23:41:08 PDT

Dear eBay customer,

Our service has sent you this invoice because the seller indicated you as the winning buyer. He selected you from all potential buyers who expressed interest in his item.

The seller informed our service that currently he is located outside US and will not be able to sell the item in person, thus requiring our service supervision for this transaction.
This seller required that the payment to be done to an eBay agent as a third party.



Payment Instructions!
2002 BMW 330CI 5spd, Sport M Pkg item #4587371670




This was sent by eBay's Customer Support team!

Trust and Safety Department is recording the transaction for these items at the request of the seller. Both the seller and the buyer will be protected against fraud. If something goes wrong we will investigate and take appropriate action based upon the policy violation and the member involved recovering the funds or the merchandise.

The seller's purchase protection account is locked until this transaction is completed.

Please follow our instructions on this notice to complete the transaction safely.

Because of the nature and value of the item being sold the seller requested that the amount of US $7,900.00 to be paid to an eBay agent in two transfers and after a 10 days inspection period of the merchandise the money will be released to the seller. Until our service is notified by the buyer that he accepts the item no money will be released to the seller.

The buyer sends the money representing the buy it now price and emails or faxes the receipt to our department. We will instruct the seller to ship the item and email you the tracking number. After you receive the item you must inform eBay's Customer Support team. You'll have 10 days to inspect the item. If it is complete and as described, the buyer should accept the merchandise. If he refuses the merchandise, the buyer must ship the merchandise back to the seller within three business days, on seller expenses.

If the buyer accepts the merchandise he has to complete the payment for the balance within 5 days from the inspection period end.

Here are the information's about this auction and the item(s) included in the Protection Plan:


item(s): 2002 BMW 330CI 5spd, Sport M Pkg

Price: US $ 7,900.00
Down Payment : US $2,500.00
Balance after delivery : US $5,400.00

shipping: US $0.00 (paid by seller if delivery is in USA)



Shipping: seller's obligation Status: Ready to ship
Payment: Western Union Status: Pending


In order to ensure you maximum security the seller requested our service to assign an agent as receiver and holder for the money until you receive the item. This agent will be representing eBay as the third party who will guarantee a secure trade for both the seller and the buyer.

Our agent will inspect the item prior shipping and will be present when the item is placed for delivery.


This way our service can give you full protection because the seller will not receive the funds until you inform us that you accept the item.



Bellow you’ll find the details of our employee:



Name: Oliver Gladon

Headquarters address: Richmond Upon Thames , London , TW9 1TX , United Kingdom


To submit the payment you have to go with cash and ID to the nearest Western Union office and complete the wire transfer. Send the money to the above name and address.
Please note that you as the buyer are required to send the money to the eBay agent and NOT directly to the seller.
As soon as the payment will be completed you must notify eBay's Customer Support team so we instruct the seller to ship the item.


You must scan and email or fax to our location the original Western Union receipt or else our department will have no prove that you actually made the deposit and will not instruct the seller to ship.

Send the receipt to ebay@customer-support-central.com or fax it to our department at 313-216-6928

eBay's Customer Support team will supply the seller with your name and address for shipment from you eBay account.
If these details changed or you wish the item to be delivered to any other address you must inform us when you email or fax the receipt.

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Regards,
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http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b128/rob0589/4.jpg

^thers a pic of the one i saw on ebay

Holy monkies its exact same as mine just the front bumber :eek:

yep..its a scam.

ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuun fooorest ruuuuuuuun
:lol :lol

LOL these guys are REALLY making money on this from people?

Riaz