View Full Version : What Is Hottest Rim Out Now? Deep dish for WB!
highboostingm3 10-09-2005, 10:37 PM I would love to see pics of what you guys think the best deep dish rim would be for my car. I am planning on going widebody. I will use an 18 inch rim, not 19 because this is all mostly for adding traction.
I know that some of you guys just sit around looking at all the rims that are available out there. Please help!:help
Pic of my car cause car and color mean a lot when deciding on rim.
http://www.danzioperformance.com/photos/customer_car_02c.jpg
BrokeMyWallet 10-09-2005, 10:43 PM go for some custom made wheels......but make sure you get the measurements right. if you do the widebody, then you can use 5 & 7 series offsets and some of the wheels out there have big lips. kinesis, ccw, and hre are some of the custom wheel makers.....but they are pretty pricey.....
yeuchau 10-09-2005, 10:43 PM the hottest one is the one that you like the most
i am sure everyone has their own style
thus, you can't really have the hottest one
for me i like the acs type 3 the most:buttrock
Mister X 10-09-2005, 10:56 PM I say fikse or kinesis.
http://www.fikse.com/classic.html
http://www.kinesismotorsport.com/forged.htm
norcalbmw 10-09-2005, 10:59 PM how wide are you going? like 12?
RedNosePit 10-09-2005, 11:11 PM how wide are you going? like 12?
+1
I think Custom may be the way to go
KarlSpackler 10-10-2005, 12:30 AM I am in love with Techart Wheels ( porche wheels i believe )
or bbs lm's
eurotunerwerks 10-10-2005, 12:38 AM dpe's
e30sd 10-10-2005, 12:42 AM brandon, you want dish? go with bbs gt2's, custom made. sure some will think you're copying jon, just don't get gold...
Mister X 10-10-2005, 01:01 AM dpe's
DPEs are for show.
highboostingm3 10-10-2005, 01:11 AM I say fikse or kinesis.
http://www.fikse.com/classic.html
http://www.kinesismotorsport.com/forged.htm
Nice choices! I was thinking Kinesis. I mean yes, this is more for function so light racing wheels like Kinesis are good. Unfortunately they aren't the best looking. Not DPE cause those are all Ryan Castro. Can't have anything like Sibals of course. Got to be my own look if possible. ACS has a type III that looks pretty racey and with a very deep dish might work.
Yeah 12" rims.
Any more ideas? Thanks guys! :wave
toddman35 10-10-2005, 01:15 AM Nice choices! I was thinking Kinesis. I mean yes, this is more for function so light racing wheels like Kinesis are good. Unfortunately they aren't the best looking. Not DPE cause those are all Ryan Castro. Can't have anything like Sibals of course. Got to be my own look if possible. ACS has a type III that looks pretty racey and with a very deep dish might work.
Yeah 12" rims.
Any more ideas? Thanks guys! :wave
Are you talking about the type III racings, because the regular type IIIs don't have any lip. I'd go for something BBS although Kinesis is also a good recommendation.
highboostingm3 10-10-2005, 01:20 AM So this one?
http://www.kinesismotorsport.com/K58R.htm
or this one?
http://www.kinesismotorsport.com/K58.htm
or this one?
http://www.kinesismotorsport.com/K18R.htm
or this one?
http://www.kinesismotorsport.com/K18.htm
I kinda like the K58R or the K18R.
techno550 10-10-2005, 01:41 AM I will use an 18 inch rim, not 19 because this is all mostly for adding traction.
Hmm... Its late so I'll just give this a *tire width does not directly relate to grip*. ;)
As for wheels, Can't go wrong with custom BBS wheels. If this is a race app and not a street app, definately BBS.
///M LIFE© 10-10-2005, 03:12 AM I love Hamann, but not recommended if you track/race.
highboostingm3 10-10-2005, 11:54 AM Hmm... Its late so I'll just give this a *tire width does not directly relate to grip*. ;)
As for wheels, Can't go wrong with custom BBS wheels. If this is a race app and not a street app, definately BBS.
I knew that would come up but you can't tell me for the street that having 225s in rear won't be any different than 335s. I mean come on. I know sidewall is what you want but you can't run slicks at 20psi creasing them on the street. When I go to the track I will probably install modified stock rear brakes and 15" rims with slicks to do it right.
Atleast I am going with 18s cause they make 345 BFG Drag Radials for those.
Custom BBS might be a thought, however Sibal did that so not too sure.
AutoRyu 10-10-2005, 12:08 PM Most wheels are too high maintenance for my tastes. I like my new Forgline SO3P wheels because they are low maintenance. Just spray them down. No polishing chrome and tiny intricate details that I need to get in there and spend 40 minutes cleaning. So the hottest rims are the low maintenance ones. :D Always. No matter what style.
That being said. I like the ones from http://www.kinesismotorsport.com/.
Mister X 10-10-2005, 01:10 PM So this one?
http://www.kinesismotorsport.com/K58R.htm
or this one?
http://www.kinesismotorsport.com/K58.htm
or this one?
http://www.kinesismotorsport.com/K18R.htm
or this one?
http://www.kinesismotorsport.com/K18.htm
I kinda like the K58R or the K18R.
K58r would be a very nice choice.
What type of widebody are you going with?
highboostingm3 10-10-2005, 01:43 PM K58r would be a very nice choice.
What type of widebody are you going with?
That is my choice too! Thank you for helping me clear that up!!!!
I already have a Zeemax kit that I bought a while ago so I might as well use it, but I will add maybe 2 inches to the rear for 345s and possibly smooth it out more, then I will use either my current bumper and fab it to match or buy a Rieger front bumper and fab it to match. Something different and I don't really like the Zeemax front bumper or side skirts. Might fab stock side skirts or try something else.
builder 10-10-2005, 01:52 PM http://wheelskin.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/700.JPG
RedNosePit 10-10-2005, 01:55 PM :lol oh I think I almost puked :lol
highboostingm3 10-10-2005, 02:07 PM nuff said
Please delete your post, it is making me sick.
This is my choice thus far.
http://www.corvettegarage.com/images/products/full_size/15079.jpg
They look like this on a MKIII Supra
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/463000-463999/463369_100_full.jpg
AutoRyu 10-10-2005, 02:10 PM Please delete your post, it is making me sick.
This is my choice thus far.
http://www.corvettegarage.com/images/products/full_size/15079.jpg
They look like this on a MKIII Supra
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/463000-463999/463369_100_full.jpg
If you really like that Forged 5 spoke look... Check out Forgeline.
http://www.forgeline.com/wheels/
http://www.forgeline.com/wheels/so3p.jpg
I actually just purchased the SO3P for myself.
highboostingm3 10-10-2005, 02:17 PM If you really like that Forged 5 spoke look... Check out Forgeline.
http://www.forgeline.com/wheels/
http://www.forgeline.com/wheels/so3p.jpg
I actually just purchased the SO3P for myself.
Thanks! Yeah if the Kinesis was all polished aluminum it would look better. But the thing is that I must have these custom made to fit. Does Forgeline custom make wheels? Also, I heard that people have had issues with them saying they are of poor quality...or maybe it was the poor service, can't recall.
AutoRyu 10-10-2005, 02:22 PM Thanks! Yeah if the Kinesis was all polished aluminum it would look better. But the thing is that I must have these custom made to fit. Does Forgeline custom make wheels? Also, I heard that people have had issues with them saying they are of poor quality...or maybe it was the poor service, can't recall.
These are my first set from Forgeline. Actually haven't taken them out of box yet as I wasn’t sure what tires to slap onto them. I finally decided through the help of users in a separate thread here that I'm going to get the Pilot Sport PS2 from Michelin. So I’ll tell you when I actually get them on. Haha.
Honestly though. Aluminum is strong stuff.
techno550 10-10-2005, 03:50 PM I knew that would come up but you can't tell me for the street that having 225s in rear won't be any different than 335s.
Don't be so sure. :)
Just one question. would there be any difference in the size of the contact patch between those two? ;)
I mean come on. I know sidewall is what you want but you can't run slicks at 20psi creasing them on the street. When I go to the track I will probably install modified stock rear brakes and 15" rims with slicks to do it right.
15's will fit over the stock rears. Shouldn't need to do anything to them to make them fit. Hell, they make 15's that will fit over the stock fronts.
Atleast I am going with 18s cause they make 345 BFG Drag Radials for those.
Custom BBS might be a thought, however Sibal did that so not too sure.
Everything has been done before. who cares. If you like something, go for it. ;)
Mister X 10-10-2005, 05:38 PM This is the car that made me fall in love with the K5s, these are the 19" k59r but you get the idea.
I may try and do a photoshop for you to see what it may look like if I can find some decent pictures to work with of the Zeemax kit.
highboostingm3 10-10-2005, 06:33 PM This is the car that made me fall in love with the K5s, these are the 19" k59r but you get the idea.
I may try and do a photoshop for you to see what it may look like if I can find some decent pictures to work with of the Zeemax kit.
hey thanks! Those actually look like http://www.kinesismotorsport.com/K58.htm They have the black centers and a double lip. Looking at that pic makes me like those better than the 58r cause the 58r I pictured before has just the one lip and might not look as cool. What do you think?
A photochop of those on a Zeemax e36 would really help!:)
MtechnicE36 10-10-2005, 07:08 PM For the money check out the WORK VS-XX and the Beyern Mesh
BimmerBoyZ3 10-10-2005, 07:33 PM For the money check out the WORK VS-XX and the Beyern Mesh
I second WORK rims.....they do custom wheels and I havent seen them on any Bimmers yet. And they are light, great quality and super sexy.
highboostingm3 10-10-2005, 07:59 PM I second WORK rims.....they do custom wheels and I havent seen them on any Bimmers yet. And they are light, great quality and super sexy.
You said the magic word...custom. I like the WORK wheels. And that is a wheel nobody is using on a widebody that I know of. Hmmmmm...:devillook
Mister X 10-10-2005, 08:02 PM hey thanks! Those actually look like http://www.kinesismotorsport.com/K58.htm They have the black centers and a double lip. Looking at that pic makes me like those better than the 58r cause the 58r I pictured before has just the one lip and might not look as cool. What do you think?
A photochop of those on a Zeemax e36 would really help!:)
The way the naming system works for Kinesis is like this;
k57 = 17"
k58 = 18"
k59 = 19"
And the R stands for the step lip, so it is the same wheel besides the size.
Do you have any high res pictures of the Zeemax kit? I remember there was the black car on ebay from a while back but I can't find it.
kalib0y 10-10-2005, 10:24 PM DPEs are for show.
not just for show, all the wheels are DOT approved and also tested on load and torsion unlike some other custom wheel manufacturers. They are also cut down on weight just for reference, a steplip 18x10 GT7 weighs no heavier than 18lbs.
as for choice of wheels for Cameron, just go with a set of wheels that your heart is set on. Im sure they will look sweet on your ride. If you have always liked the Kinesis 5 spoke then get them, you wont regret it!
highboostingm3 10-10-2005, 10:59 PM as for choice of wheels for Cameron, just go with a set of wheels that your heart is set on. Im sure they will look sweet on your ride. If you have always liked the Kinesis 5 spoke then get them, you wont regret it!
Thanks! Not so sure on the stepped lip...what do you think? It is a HUGE investment so I need to make the right decision. Yet I have to get something that can be custom made.
Oh and please PM me with a good bodyshop that will do the widebody but not for Trump dollas. :) I am thinking while the engine is out, get it towed to a place now!
MtechnicE36 10-10-2005, 11:19 PM how the hell do you guys fit intercoolers that big behind the bumper? ^
kalib0y 10-10-2005, 11:25 PM Thanks! Not so sure on the stepped lip...what do you think? It is a HUGE investment so I need to make the right decision. Yet I have to get something that can be custom made.
Oh and please PM me with a good bodyshop that will do the widebody but not for Trump dollas. :) I am thinking while the engine is out, get it towed to a place now!
steplip is a classic racer look, and is also lighter because of the inch smaller center. The reverse lip is not only a true diameter wheel but it makes the wheel appear much bigger vs the steplip. (makes me miss my 19in steplips!!!)
But you cant go wrong either way, they are 2 very different looks. Steplip is much more aggressive and "racey", but the right reverse lip design will look huge on the car even though its just an 18... Did I just make the choice harder for you? hehe
Ill pm you the bodyshop info now
96cosmosM3 10-10-2005, 11:47 PM Atleast I am going with 18s cause they make 345 BFG Drag Radials for those.
Custom BBS might be a thought, however Sibal did that so not too sure.
BBS drag wheels
Sephiroth619 10-10-2005, 11:56 PM Cam,
According to you, Sibal = BBS, Kaliboy = DPE.
I just wanted to add that Dado = Kinesis.
That leaves you with Forgeline, Work, and Racing Dynamics (The ones that Umnitza has). HRE and iForged are just so overplayed.
Here are the Racing Dyns with your body kit.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/sephiroth619/Zeemax_Wide_Black_Sick_3.jpg
bmwweberm# 10-11-2005, 12:23 AM I would love to see pics of what you guys think the best deep dish rim would be for my car. I am planning on going widebody. I will use an 18 inch rim, not 19 because this is all mostly for adding traction.
I know that some of you guys just sit around looking at all the rims that are available out there. Please help!:help
That really hard to do something that is totally oringle now a days but with all the body work you are talking about doing your car will deffently be one of a kind.
Ok rims, I personally don’t like the stepped look, I don’t know what it is about it that I don’t like, I just don’t like it :dunno.
Now I personally like the look of these HREs but I have heard that they are not very strong.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/bmwweber/HRE446.jpg
Mister X 10-11-2005, 12:34 AM Cam,
According to you, Sibal = BBS, Kaliboy = DPE.
I just wanted to add that Dado = Kinesis.
That leaves you with Forgeline, Work, and Racing Dynamics (The ones that Umnitza has). HRE and iForged are just so overplayed.
I forgot about Dado, but you forgot about Fikse :) Maybe a set of FM5s?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/sephiroth619/Zeemax_Wide_Black_Sick_3.jpg
I like how the molding was left off but they didn't make it smooth. Maybe you should consider that?
jonsibal 10-11-2005, 01:14 AM I share Ryan's view on the steplip vs the flat lip. Two styles for different "look":buttrock
Before I went with my BBS Magnesiums, I was actually considering the wheels that MisterX posted... Kinesis K58 (18" 5 spoke). I love the finish on the spokes, style plus the step lip. Kinesis was on board and gave me a great deal. I was about ready to place an order when I just thought to call BBS Motorsport one more time when I saw the wheels in one of the GrandAm races on TV. BBS and Kinesis were very helpful and supportive, but I was given an oppurtunity to actually own those BBS GT2s, THE one wheel I've always wanted but never thought would ever get to have.
http://jonsibal.com/newBBS.jpg
BBS actually sells them now with a forged aluminum centers instead of the magnesiums that I have. I know of only one guy with a widebody E46 running it but no widebody E36... you could be the 1st :D
I know how specific you are with being original and unique. Its tough but don't let someone owning the wheels you want stop you from getting them. You can make it your own style by how you put your ride together.
Your car will stand out better through the sum of all parts rather than just one unique part... but that's just me.
Which widebody are you thinking of going with anyways? Have you actually decided already?
BTW, MisterX, I thought the "R" in the K58s,59s etc stands for Reverse lip as in the flat lip, at least that's what I've been told.
MtechnicE36 10-11-2005, 01:43 AM wow i think that your rims cost as much as my house ^
Mister X 10-11-2005, 02:20 AM Jon - Maybe the guy I spoke to was wrong, or perhaps I am mistaken.
E46325Ci 10-11-2005, 09:05 AM step lip looks gorgeous, i would do that my bro's ptg widebody has gold forgelines with a step lip and it looks very nice!
why not consider forgeline wheels?
highboostingm3 10-11-2005, 12:30 PM Thank you so much Jon! I always like your point of view. It will be way cool when all 3 of us are widebody.
I absolutely love those rims so I probably will have to take you up on your offer. Hopefully BBS will like my car enough and want to sponsor me somewhat. I think with all the money that I have invested in the car at this point, that I am definitely not afraid for a little financial help.
I need to get moving on this right away. Ryan has given me the info on the shop that I need to use. I will probably borrow my tuner's trailor and tow the car myself up to the shop. I just have to figure out where the new exhaust is coming out the rear bumper and what to do regarding the front bumper and side skirts. Then I will be ready to have them start the work.:redspot
I share Ryan's view on the steplip vs the flat lip. Two styles for different "look":buttrock
Before I went with my BBS Magnesiums, I was actually considering the wheels that MisterX posted... Kinesis K58 (18" 5 spoke). I love the finish on the spokes, style plus the step lip. Kinesis was on board and gave me a great deal. I was about ready to place an order when I just thought to call BBS Motorsport one more time when I saw the wheels in one of the GrandAm races on TV. BBS and Kinesis were very helpful and supportive, but I was given an oppurtunity to actually own those BBS GT2s, THE one wheel I've always wanted but never thought would ever get to have.
BBS actually sells them now with a forged aluminum centers instead of the magnesiums that I have. I know of only one guy with a widebody E46 running it but no widebody E36... you could be the 1st :D
I know how specific you are with being original and unique. Its tough but don't let someone owning the wheels you want stop you from getting them. You can make it your own style by how you put your ride together.
Your car will stand out better through the sum of all parts rather than just one unique part... but that's just me.
Which widebody are you thinking of going with anyways? Have you actually decided already?
BTW, MisterX, I thought the "R" in the K58s,59s etc stands for Reverse lip as in the flat lip, at least that's what I've been told.
AutoRyu 10-11-2005, 01:14 PM http://jonsibal.com/newBBS.jpg
Gah. Way too much GOLD! Way too much! Way, way too much! My eyes!!!:eek:
Mister X 10-11-2005, 05:10 PM not just for show, all the wheels are DOT approved and also tested on load and torsion unlike some other custom wheel manufacturers. They are also cut down on weight just for reference, a steplip 18x10 GT7 weighs no heavier than 18lbs.
as for choice of wheels for Cameron, just go with a set of wheels that your heart is set on. Im sure they will look sweet on your ride. If you have always liked the Kinesis 5 spoke then get them, you wont regret it!
I didn't mean to say that DPEs were bad wheels, in fact I think they're great wheels, but they are considerably show orientated in my opinion. The reason I say this is the welded two piece design and the fake rivets present on many of their wheels. I just don't think they were designed with tracking as their main purpose, there is nothing wrong with that though.
No offense to DPE was meant in my earlier statement it's just that I don't think they're meant to be track wheels.
kalib0y 10-12-2005, 01:28 AM I didn't mean to say that DPEs were bad wheels, in fact I think they're great wheels, but they are considerably show orientated in my opinion. The reason I say this is the welded two piece design and the fake rivets present on many of their wheels. I just don't think they were designed with tracking as their main purpose, there is nothing wrong with that though.
No offense to DPE was meant in my earlier statement it's just that I don't think they're meant to be track wheels.
no worries, I do appreciate your opinion. DPE will have alot more to offer the automotive community very soon covering all the different multi-piece constructions, more innovative designs, and finishes.
The rivets are a customer option, the wheel is currently a 2 piece for now, allowing DPE to eliminate the rivets for a much cleaner design and that you save about 4lbs per wheel. Another reason why 2 piece was chosen is because the lip can vary right down to the millimiter as opposed to a 3 piece which only grows and shrinks in 1/2in increments. This helps alot for those that are looking for a deep lip.
When it comes to high centrifical forces, all of the components of a 3-piece wheel "float" therefore this can result in wheel flex. In a 2 piece construction, flex is minimized. Ultimately when it comes to wheel variance and flex, the one piece design is king but you dont get any lip. So IMO a 2 piece can be a good median.
All in all, any wheel that fits your ride perfectly is pimp! I doesn't matter who you get your wheels from as long as it serves your intended purpose for them.
I apologize for thread jacking!!!:D
techno550 10-12-2005, 01:42 AM When it comes to high centrifical forces, all of the components of a 3-piece wheel "float" therefore this can result in wheel flex. In a 2 piece construction, flex is minimized. Ultimately when it comes to wheel variance and flex, the one piece design is king but you dont get any lip. So IMO a 2 piece can be a good median.
Ow! my head!
centrifical? did you mean centrifugal? no, wait, that doesn't exist. How bout centripetal? There we go.
As for the wheel float thing... :confused :help
kalib0y 10-12-2005, 02:37 AM Ow! my head!
centrifical? did you mean centrifugal? no, wait, that doesn't exist. How bout centripetal? There we go.
As for the wheel float thing... :confused :help
I meant centrifugal, not centripetal, although it does apply, but I am reffering to the outward moving forces from the axis. mindblock on the physics terms in th last post:D
as for float, when you have more pieces involved in the construction there is more flex between the components, naturally. I hope that helps.
ex wrx 10-12-2005, 01:25 PM DAMN... those bbs wheels are teh hawtnesssss
techno550 10-12-2005, 02:42 PM I meant centrifugal, not centripetal, although it does apply, but I am reffering to the outward moving forces from the axis. mindblock on the physics terms in th last post:D
:confused :help
Mindblock on physics terms, or physics?
I hate to be Mr. Physics, but WTF?
Do you know what those terms mean? You familiar with the concepts? The centrifugal force does not act on the body in motion. The only force acting on the body in motion is the centripetal force. Centrifugal force is a *phantom force*. Like I said, doesn't exist. Its one of those *observed* things that is misunderstood.
as for float, when you have more pieces involved in the construction there is more flex between the components, naturally. I hope that helps.
I'll have to disagree with this too. Especially when dealing with spun rim halves bolted to a rather stiff center versus cast wheels.
More components doesn't directly equate to less stiff. There's some engineering involved in there somewhere....
kalib0y 10-12-2005, 03:41 PM :confused :help
Mindblock on physics terms, or physics?
I hate to be Mr. Physics, but WTF?
Do you know what those terms mean? You familiar with the concepts? The centrifugal force does not act on the body in motion. The only force acting on the body in motion is the centripetal force. Centrifugal force is a *phantom force*. Like I said, doesn't exist. Its one of those *observed* things that is misunderstood.
I'll have to disagree with this too. Especially when dealing with spun rim halves bolted to a rather stiff center versus cast wheels.
More components doesn't directly equate to less stiff. There's some engineering involved in there somewhere....
Michael,
Thank you for your input, but with all due respect, perhaps we can continue this conversation on the specific physical forces outside of this thread. I would just like to state that I wrote my prior posts for the general public to view and understand. If I were to be presenting this information just to a group of individuals whom study phsics, then I would have chosen my terms to be more specific.
As for the wheel flex, you don't have to be a physics professor to know that the less pieces are involved the more rigid it will be. Our results in torsion testing furthur solidify my point. Like I stated earlier, the one piece design is the way to go if you are looking for maximum rigidity.
This thread is about the hottest wheels for Cameron's widebody, so lets get this back on topic. If you would like to discuss this further, my email is ryancastro@hotmail.com
highboostingm3 10-12-2005, 04:39 PM I plan to tow the car using my tuner's trailor the first week of November to the body shop. I have never done a widebody before and especially a custom widebody.
How will I know how wide to make the rear fenders in order to clear the tires so that there is no rubbing? What does the stock rear Zeemax quarters fit? 305s? So then I will know how many millimeters to add to the width of the quarters. I want to be able to dunk the rear of the car with the large tires so I have to make sure it clears extremely well. I know offset plays a big factor, so what is the maximum offset to set the tire as closest to the suspension as possible on the e36? 45?
I want to fit 345 BFG drag radials in rear. Front I don't really care, as long as they can dunk and not rub. So maybe 255s up front?
m3jasper 10-12-2005, 05:01 PM Cam,
According to you, Sibal = BBS, Kaliboy = DPE.
I just wanted to add that Dado = Kinesis.
That leaves you with Forgeline, Work, and Racing Dynamics (The ones that Umnitza has). HRE and iForged are just so overplayed.
Here are the Racing Dyns with your body kit.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/sephiroth619/Zeemax_Wide_Black_Sick_3.jpg
Sorry about the OT, I was wondering if anyone knew who to contact in the States to get Zeemax body kit. The car is the picture is absolutely stunning. Is that how the zeemax kit comes, or is it modified in anyway?
Back on topic, Cameron is this the kit your using for your car? If so, cant wait to see the outcome!!!
-Dave
highboostingm3 10-12-2005, 05:09 PM Sorry about the OT, I was wondering if anyone knew who to contact in the States to get Zeemax body kit. The car is the picture is absolutely stunning. Is that how the zeemax kit comes, or is it modified in anyway?
Back on topic, Cameron is this the kit your using for your car? If so, cant wait to see the outcome!!!
-Dave
Dave,
Yes it is the kit and the one pictured is how it comes. I am using that kit as a base for everything but the front bumper and side skirts. I will do something different for the front bumper and side skirts. The front quarters will be just like what you see in the picture. The rear quarters will be the same look but I will make it wider to fit wider tires. Rear bumper will use the same bumper but with some custom fabrication. Molding will be shaved.
m3jasper 10-12-2005, 05:18 PM Dave,
Yes it is the kit and the one pictured is how it comes. I am using that kit as a base for everything but the front bumper and side skirts. I will do something different for the front bumper and side skirts. The front quarters will be just like what you see in the picture. The rear quarters will be the same look but I will make it wider to fit wider tires. Rear bumper will use the same bumper but with some custom fabrication. Molding will be shaved.
Thats AWESOME!!! Now you'll actually be able to use all that power your gonna be putting down. :devillook I'm guessing that you'll be hitting the drag strips to see what the car is going to be capable of:D . If you don't mind me asking, what will you be doing to the engine/turbo?
-Dave
kalib0y 10-12-2005, 05:19 PM I plan to tow the car using my tuner's trailor the first week of November to the body shop. I have never done a widebody before and especially a custom widebody.
How will I know how wide to make the rear fenders in order to clear the tires so that there is no rubbing? What does the stock rear Zeemax quarters fit? 305s? So then I will know how many millimeters to add to the width of the quarters. I want to be able to dunk the rear of the car with the large tires so I have to make sure it clears extremely well. I know offset plays a big factor, so what is the maximum offset to set the tire as closest to the suspension as possible on the e36? 45?
I want to fit 345 BFG drag radials in rear. Front I don't really care, as long as they can dunk and not rub. So maybe 255s up front?
Cameron, when you get your car to the body shop, let them pre install the rear quarter panels (or just one), then bring your 345 tire in and see what is if you can fit it up in the rear or if you have to shave your inner fenders down a bit.
I dont know about the zeemax, but I know for sure that I can fit 12s on the rear of my car with the esquiss fenders.
93bmw325is 10-12-2005, 05:57 PM im surprised noone mentioned the mvr's tese are my favorite
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8005652099
found this pic
highboostingm3 10-12-2005, 06:16 PM Cameron, when you get your car to the body shop, let them pre install the rear quarter panels (or just one), then bring your 345 tire in and see what is if you can fit it up in the rear or if you have to shave your inner fenders down a bit.
I dont know about the zeemax, but I know for sure that I can fit 12s on the rear of my car with the esquiss fenders.
Well then I better get moving! I need to purchase the 345x18 drag radials and have them ready. But I would imagine that I need to talk to BBS also. So you are saying that if i shave my inner fenders down a bit I can have more than 45 offset? So you think i should try to not make the rear quarters any wider then? I am sick of the rear being 4x4 now cause of the rear spacers due to the Stoptechs. I want to be able to dunk the rear coilovers if I want and not worry about rubbing.
highboostingm3 10-12-2005, 06:18 PM Thats AWESOME!!! Now you'll actually be able to use all that power your gonna be putting down. :devillook I'm guessing that you'll be hitting the drag strips to see what the car is going to be capable of:D . If you don't mind me asking, what will you be doing to the engine/turbo?
-Dave
Thanks! Yeah I am excited. I am doing a lot to the engine and other stuff but I will post all about that when it's complete with pics, dyno sheets and video!:buttrock
kalib0y 10-12-2005, 06:31 PM Well then I better get moving! I need to purchase the 345x18 drag radials and have them ready. But I would imagine that I need to talk to BBS also. So you are saying that if i shave my inner fenders down a bit I can have more than 45 offset? So you think i should try to not make the rear quarters any wider then? I am sick of the rear being 4x4 now cause of the rear spacers due to the Stoptechs. I want to be able to dunk the rear coilovers if I want and not worry about rubbing.
yeah you can get a crazy offset in the rear. Also you might have to widen the fender just a tad to get the 345 back there, but you will never know until you get the tire.
yeah your car is pretty high, Chris modeled my exhaust after yours and now he has to change it becasuse the part below my fuel tank is about 2inches off the ground!!! he will raise the pipe thouogh. He didnt know that your car was so much higher than mine.
highboostingm3 10-12-2005, 06:51 PM yeah you can get a crazy offset in the rear. Also you might have to widen the fender just a tad to get the 345 back there, but you will never know until you get the tire.
yeah your car is pretty high, Chris modeled my exhaust after yours and now he has to change it becasuse the part below my fuel tank is about 2inches off the ground!!! he will raise the pipe thouogh. He didnt know that your car was so much higher than mine.
Yeah I will just order the 2 tires and use them to gauge the build. That way they can get going on it and then later I'll have more time to deal with BBS on making the wheels.
Yeah my car is like 2 feet off the ground in back...it sucks, that is why I am making it better.:stickoutt
mose121 12-29-2005, 05:47 PM I am in love with Techart Wheels ( porche wheels i believe )
or bbs lm's
BBS LMs or RGRs would look right at home on a widebody. Best overall wheels out there IMO.
mose121 12-29-2005, 05:49 PM So this one?
http://www.kinesismotorsport.com/K58R.htm
or this one?
http://www.kinesismotorsport.com/K58.htm
or this one?
http://www.kinesismotorsport.com/K18R.htm
or this one?
http://www.kinesismotorsport.com/K18.htm
I kinda like the K58R or the K18R.
is it me or do all these Kinesis wheels look like HRE knockoffs?
98M3_4 12-29-2005, 06:39 PM is it me or do all these Kinesis wheels look like HRE knockoffs?
It's just you....;) The Kinesis finish does look very similar to HRE's charcoal gray anodized finish, but to me the Kinesis wheels seem to have generally softer lines, a little more curve than the most of the HRE wheels. HRE's to me have that straight, mechanical, sharp look to them. In any case, both look very good and both are big time $$$.
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