www.unlimitedlaps.com has the above dates at thunderhill raceway. i think they are cheaper than other groups and there is a discount if you do both days.

i plan to be there both days, hope to see some of you out there.

jh

I'll be there too.

John, which car?

Jay

i hope the m3.
i took it out last weekend, it was fun day one. then day two, the gear box acted strange. of course, on my way home, it was NORMAL again... ugh.

i hope the m3.
i took it out last weekend, it was fun day one. then day two, the gear box acted strange. of course, on my way home, it was NORMAL again... ugh.

Bad weekend for Bimmers at Thunderhill. First Fong's engine problems, then I mis-shift and then your gearbox problems. Not as bad as the Viper, though.

indeed, the viper blew the motor i think
fong's car had a value "stuck"....
are you getting your fixed at ramon's?
he and tony is trying to exorcise the demon in my "bad karma" car.
i am beginning to question the reliability of e36m3 ;-)
i tracked (3) different 996's, none of them had a single problem and i NEVER had to leave early ;-(

indeed, the viper blew the motor i think
fong's car had a value "stuck"....
are you getting your fixed at ramon's?
he and tony is trying to exorcise the demon in my "bad karma" car.
i am beginning to question the reliability of e36m3 ;-)
i tracked (3) different 996's, none of them had a single problem and i NEVER had to leave early ;-(

Ramon will be getting the car either this Sunday or Monday.

How heavily used was your car when you bought it? My car owes me nothing. 95 track days and the only problems have been when I f**cked up.

For any who haven't run with UnlimitedLaps, this is a great group to run with. Lots of BMW participation and a wide variety of cars. The events are well run, they have a great lunch and have good instructors. I'll be instructing and I believe Mooty will also. There are a number of Bf.c members who are regulars at Hunpin's events.

You'll get lots of track time and the run groups aren't huge. The price is very good. $225 if paid before deadline date. If you sign up for both 10/31 and 11/11, it's only $195/day. That's an awesome deal for T-hill.

http://www.unlimitedlaps.com/eventdetails/20051031.html

Hope to see you out there.

Jay

i second what jay said about unlimited laps. i run everyone of their events ;-)

How heavily used was your car when you bought it
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john, the car is a 1998 ONE owner car (mature lady). only had 61k miles on it when i got it. it was never tracked before me. now i got 11DE and maybe 1500 track miles on it.

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john, the car is a 1998 ONE owner car (mature lady). only had 61k miles on it when i got it. it was never tracked before me. now i got 11DE and maybe 1500 track miles on it.

Ha-Ha1 Only driven by a little old lady! The used car salesmans standard line.

nah, i met the previous owner and stalked her for a while to make sure she was the only driver ;-)
oh, she wan't old either !

nah, i met the previous owner and stalked her for a while to make sure she was the only driver ;-)
oh, she wan't old either !

Ha-Ha! YOU WOULD do THAT!

BTW, for those of you who haven't run T-hill in a while they've made some very nice improvements to the track.

Added asphalt to the outside of T8 at track out. Now you can see how big your nuts are (I was referring to lug nuts of course). Added a lot of asphalt to the inside of T12 so if you spin out of T11 there's plenty of track instead of gravel. Added a lot of asphalt to the outside of the area between T14 and T15. And added a pit entrance lane starting before T15.

It just keeps getting better.

Hope to see some of you out there - Jay

Added asphalt to the outside of T8 at track out. Now you can see how big your nuts are (I was referring to lug nuts of course).
Of course :)

But now it's so easy. I spent 6 years trying to go through that corner "un-puckered" :eek: , and now they add asphalt?

Pffft, might as well just put big fluffy pillows out there :thumbdown :)

Ah well. IMO, yada^3

Jim

Of course :)

But now it's so easy. I spent 6 years trying to go through that corner "un-puckered" :eek: , and now they add asphalt?

Pffft, might as well just put big fluffy pillows out there :thumbdown :)

Ah well. IMO, yada^3

Jim

For some of us, there's still plenty-o-pucker factor available :help

Jay

Still plenty-o-room. Come on out and join us.

Jay

I'll see you all there on the 11th :) First event for this car :)

I'll see you all there on the 11th :) First event for this car :)

Are you planning on running in the green group (novice)?? Im definitely considering participating in this now that my new suspension is finished. Gonna be the first track day my car has ever seen.

What happens if it rains that day??????

Are you planning on running in the green group (novice)?? Im definitely considering participating in this now that my new suspension is finished. Gonna be the first track day my car has ever seen.
What happens if it rains that day??????

Bring your slickers ;-) We'll run rain or shine. Of course, if it's a downpour that'll probably change things.

Jay

Yeah, tentatively (novice), since this is my first event in over a year, and my first event with this car setup now..., I may ask if they'll let me switch over to the intermediate group at some point in the day, depending on how the day goes...

Looks like its going to be an awesome day

We should be by the new shelter Thill has, if there is a sign of rain, will get a garage aka "smack tent"

:)

So lets say it does rain (not heavily) the day of the event. Doesnt everyones traction (the people that donty have Pilot Sport's) go down the poop hole?? I mean, my car in the rain feel like its going to spin out more easily than anything else I've ever driven. Wouldnt that totally defeat the purpose of testing your cars limits on a race track?

Many races are run in the rain. This is not a race, but you can learn from driving in less than ideal conditions. Some say you learn a lot more because you really have to be in touch with what's going on.

Jay

Sounds like this will be an awesome day. How many people usually attend?

i venture to guess 50-60 car spread among 3 run groups. track is usually not crowded.

. . . but you can learn from driving in less than ideal conditions. Some say you learn a lot more because you really have to be in touch with what's going on.
Jay
Wet trackdays are great. They equalize the horsepower factor and emphasize driver skill and smoothness.

I've been hoping to get a wet trackday for a long time, now, but no luck since 2003.

Wet trackdays are great. They equalize the horsepower factor and emphasize driver skill and smoothness.
I've been hoping to get a wet trackday for a long time, now, but no luck since 2003.

You can have all my rain days....I don't want 'em ;)

Jay

The registered list is up on the website now:
http://www.unlimitedlaps.com/eventdetails/driverlist20051111.xml

Not going to be too busy it would seem (which I have NO Problems with), although if Hunpin isn't getting many people, I hope he can continue to offer these events.

Maybe he'll get some last minute sign-ups. I talked to a friend in WA who might come down.

I'm looking forward to it. My last events of the season. I'll also be doing 3 days at Sears Point 11/13-11/15.

You got that blue car ready to fly?

Jay

I think so. There are some last minute things I need to do
-install roll-cage padding (already have the padding)
-bleed the brakes

..and some I'm going to do because I want to
-JTDesigns tranny brace

But other than that, HELL Yes :) hehe. I'm SO ready to get this car out there and drive. Should be a good time. I signed up in the green group, mainly because I haven't brought this car out before, and a lot has changed. I want to give myself time to get used to it.

I'm getting excited.

Maybe he'll get some last minute sign-ups. I'll also be doing 3 days at Sears Point 11/13-11/15.
Jay

If the weather holds out I'm probably going to sign-up. That's if my car is out of the shop.

Hope to se you there.

Are you instructing for Tracquest or NCRC on the 14th & 15th?

jay i plan to be at TH 11/11 and infineon with tracquest.
jon, you car is in good hands, i saw it at ramon's today when i got my car back and a set of donuts for the p car. novemeber is my last track month for the year. after that i wait until feb.

jay i plan to be at TH 11/11 and infineon with tracquest.
jon, you car is in good hands, i saw it at ramon's today when i got my car back and a set of donuts for the p car. novemeber is my last track month for the year. after that i wait until feb.

You mean you're not going to Laguna Seca on Nov 30 - Dec 1 with Trackmasters?

I think so. There are some last minute things I need to do
-install roll-cage padding (already have the padding)
-bleed the brakes
..and some I'm going to do because I want to
-JTDesigns tranny brace
But other than that, HELL Yes :) hehe. I'm SO ready to get this car out there and drive. Should be a good time. I signed up in the green group, mainly because I haven't brought this car out before, and a lot has changed. I want to give myself time to get used to it.
I'm getting excited.

There are 3-4 instructors (me included) with M3s. And, there will be at least 3 TC Design cages out there. You'll be in good company.

I'll be staying at the Golden Pheasant. Should be there by 4-5pm thur. Car #939 on open trailer.

Jay

If the weather holds out I'm probably going to sign-up. That's if my car is out of the shop.
Hope to se you there.
Are you instructing for Tracquest or NCRC on the 14th & 15th?

NCRC. Hope you get the car done in time. What did they have to do?

Jay

There are 3-4 instructors (me included) with M3s. And, there will be at least 3 TC Design cages out there. You'll be in good company.
I'll be staying at the Golden Pheasant. Should be there by 4-5pm thur. Car #939 on open trailer.
Jay
Sounds good. My girlfriend Anna and myself are driving up fron San Jose, and we'll probably be there around the same time, but we're staying at the Ameriquest just down the way from your hotel.

NCRC. Hope you get the car done in time. What did they have to do?
Jay

Swapped in a new (used) engine that I got from Doug Gale. then had to re-apply all my mods.

Swapped in a new (used) engine that I got from Doug Gale. then had to re-apply all my mods.

Do you know if it'll be ready yet?

Jay

Do you know if it'll be ready yet?
Jay

Ramon says it will be ready. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that we don't run into any problems when we fire it up. I've already checked with Hunpin and he said I could register at the track that day. Hope to see you there. Probably drive up that morning to keep costs down.

hope to see you there too jon.

You mean you're not going to Laguna Seca on Nov 30 - Dec 1 with Trackmasters?
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it's those are on weekends, i can't go. wife will know. if on weekdays, i may sneak out.

hope to see you there too jon.

You mean you're not going to Laguna Seca on Nov 30 - Dec 1 with Trackmasters?
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it's those are on weekends, i can't go. wife will know. if on weekdays, i may sneak out.

And you were telling us how understanding your wife is :devillook

You could always send her shopping ;)

Jay

You could always send her shopping ;)
Jay

Mooty used and abused that luxury

hope to see you there too jon.

You mean you're not going to Laguna Seca on Nov 30 - Dec 1 with Trackmasters?
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it's those are on weekends, i can't go. wife will know. if on weekdays, i may sneak out.

Check your calendar, Dude! A Wednesday and a Thursday. Hurry though. They are nearly full.

Mooty used and abused that luxury

You got your car out of Ramons? Between you and Mooty he hasn't had enough time to work on mine. You realize we are all sending him back to The Ring next year! I hear he has a thing for Sabine!

yes, my and fongs are lives at TC and ramon's. white porsches are the fastest p cars but white bimmers are a totally different story.

jon, are you the steward for TM at LS?

jay, i would never tell anyone my wife is UNDERSTANDING. she just doesn't know what the hell i do most of the time.

i can't send her shopping, i need the money to buy tires and pads.

You got your car out of Ramons? Between you and Mooty he hasn't had enough time to work on mine. You realize we are all sending him back to The Ring next year! I hear he has a thing for Sabine!

I dont know, Tony and Ramon has the car...better for me, i dont have to deal with shuffling between my 2 garages...

i would never tell anyone my wife is UNDERSTANDING. she just doesn't know what the hell i do most of the time.

yeh, wonder what else you get up to? haha

Hey Jay! Are you snowed in up there in Oregon? Looks pretty nasty on weather.com.

(Off-topic)
Today, My buddy Jason and I just signed up for a TEAM (miata group) open track event 12/12 at Thunderhill, only $150! There is still space for more (if anyone else is interested)

http://home.onemain.com/~bonster/teamevents.html

(Off-topic)
Today, My buddy Jason and I just signed up for a TEAM (miata group) open track event 12/12 at Thunderhill, only $150! There is still space for more (if anyone else is interested)
http://home.onemain.com/~bonster/teamevents.html

I'll be there on the 18th with Trackmasters (weather permitting). If the weather looks good I may just sign up with TEAM. I know a lot of the folks that run with them. Good Group.

I'll be there on the 18th with Trackmasters (weather permitting). If the weather looks good I may just sign up with TEAM. I know a lot of the folks that run with them. Good Group.
Good to know, this'll be the first time I've run with them. Hope to see you there.
-Ben

Hey Jay! Are you snowed in up there in Oregon? Looks pretty nasty on weather.com.

They said the snow level was 3500'. The Siskiyou pass is 4200'. You do the math ;) Supposed to be clearing for the next several days though so no problemo. I may not be able to get home though :rolleyes

I'll be there Thur evening.

How's the car?

Jay

They said the snow level was 3500'. The Siskiyou pass is 4200'. You do the math ;) Supposed to be clearing for the next several days though so no problemo. I may not be able to get home though :rolleyes

I'll be there Thur evening.

How's the car?

Jay

Well, Ramon is playing at Thunderhill with PDC today so I won't know any more until late tomorrow or Wednesday. Keeping my fingers and toes crossed.

yep, i saw ramon at TH today. it was fun spinning in the wet pavement ;-)

yep, i saw ramon at TH today. it was fun spinning in the wet pavement ;-)

That's why I drive an open car. So I have an excuse not to drive in the rain. Heck, I'm not practicing for racing so why drive in the rain?

yeah, i dont' like driviong in the rain either. but kim keep on taunting me ;-)
of course, last minute he decided to not show up!

yeah, i dont' like driviong in the rain either. but kim keep on taunting me ;-)
of course, last minute he decided to not show up!

Are you having a Ground Hog Day experience?

Looked to be dry in the morning. When did the rain arrive and how wet did it get?

on my drive north to TH it was dry all the way.
as soon as i got off fwy at TH exit, it poured.
rain was on and off. nothing major, but track never fully dried, except maybe for 1/2 an hour.

jay and i will be at TH friday.
are you going to be there jon?

Good to meet those that I did!

Jay, thanks so much for the instruction and everything. ..an awesome event, I couldn't have asked for more!

Hope to see you again soon!

...some of the picturse that the GotBlueMilk folks took:

http://www.benhirsch.net/gallery/categories.php?cat_id=103