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<p>These are two items that I created myself in my personal woodshop.</p>
<p>Does anyone think there would be a market for these with E38 owners ?</p>
<p>The first is a custom enclosure that can be mounted in the otherwise useless
compartment over the 740iL's battery (won't work for 750iL, most of them have
DUAL batteries)</p>
<p>It can be used to mount your MP3 CD Changer, or your trunk mounted DVD or
VCR.</p>
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<img border="0" src="http://www.tekcities.com/tdaniely/740iL/AUDIO/changer_dvd_enclosure.jpg" width="800" height="600"></p>
<p>The second item is what I like to call a "curtain wall", made especially for
the E38 to hide your subwoofer / amplifier install.</p>
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<img border="0" src="http://www.tekcities.com/tdaniely/740iL/AUDIO/curtain_wall.jpg" width="800" height="600"></p>
<p>Price would be around $50.00 for the enclosure and $75.00 for the curtain
wall.</p>
<p>Comments ? Suggestions? Questions?</p>
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awahl63 09-29-2005, 09:45 AM I think it looks amazing and you could get a couple people interested
DeanP 09-29-2005, 10:09 AM Looks nice.
Benny Z 09-29-2005, 11:47 AM $75.00 for the curtain. What do you guys/gals think?
i think $75 for a carpeted piece of wood is ass-rape.
:confused
tdaniely 09-29-2005, 11:51 AM i think $75 for a carpeted piece of wood is ass-rape.
:confused
.....A lot cheaper than a carpeted piece of wood from Bavarian Sound Works
Benny Z 09-29-2005, 12:04 PM hah!
so true!
TWKTCC 09-29-2005, 01:58 PM Just regarding the "curtain".
The cost of a sheet of 3/4" mdf (retail) (if thats what your using) ~ $20.00
This would be enough to make at least 4 maybe 5 units.
Box carpet (retail) ~ $3.00/linear foot and 4 ft wide. So enough carpet to cover all 5 pieces ~ $60.00.
So for a monetary investment of ~80.00 (retail) you would make $375.00 total off the sale of the 5 units. Less the investment of $80 yeilds $295.00. Labor hrs to cut/ carpet all 5 curtains approx 1 1/2 hours. Ill toss in a R/D cost of $40.00 to make the template (approx 30 mintues). So now we are at $255.00.
This gives you a rate of $127.50/ hr :eek: thats a pretty sweet gig.
I suppose for a person without the basic tools needed (jig and skill saw) and/ or the time, some sort of monetary charge would be fair but I think you are a bit steep. :help
Other then the $$$ I think they are both very clean pieces.
We could do the same breakdown for the cd changer/ dvd player/ etc box as well..... :confused
pistonsfan70 09-29-2005, 02:07 PM Not bad for the changer holder but if size permits, I'd rather put a changer in my glove box (that's what I did). The box you made looks stock though and is very clean so anything that can't fit in a tight spot and go back there. Nice work!
Benny Z 09-29-2005, 02:14 PM Just regarding the "curtain".
The cost of a sheet of 3/4" mdf (retail) (if thats what your using) ~ $20.00
This would be enough to make at least 4 maybe 5 units.
Box carpet (retail) ~ $3.00/linear foot and 4 ft wide. So enough carpet to cover all 5 pieces ~ $60.00.
So for a monetary investment of ~80.00 (retail) you would make $375.00 total off the sale of the 5 units. Less the investment of $80 yeilds $295.00. Labor hrs to cut/ carpet all 5 curtains approx 1 1/2 hours. Ill toss in a R/D cost of $40.00 to make the template (approx 30 mintues). So now we are at $255.00.
This gives you a rate of $127.50/ hr :eek: thats a pretty sweet gig.
I suppose for a person without the basic tools needed (jig and skill saw) and/ or the time, some sort of monetary charge would be fair but I think you are a bit steep. :help
Other then the $$$ I think they are both very clean pieces.
We could do the same breakdown for the cd changer/ dvd player/ etc box as well..... :confused
you forgot the countless hours trying to find 5 sukkas willing to buy them... :stickoutt
TWKTCC 09-29-2005, 02:19 PM you forgot the countless hours trying to find 5 sukkas willing to buy them... :stickoutt
No... thats where posting pics on the net comes in... :D Plenty of sukkas out there.
tdaniely 09-29-2005, 02:26 PM Just regarding the "curtain".
The cost of a sheet of 3/4" mdf (retail) (if thats what your using) ~ $20.00
This would be enough to make at least 4 maybe 5 units.
Box carpet (retail) ~ $3.00/linear foot and 4 ft wide. So enough carpet to cover all 5 pieces ~ $60.00.
So for a monetary investment of ~80.00 (retail) you would make $375.00 total off the sale of the 5 units. Less the investment of $80 yeilds $295.00. Labor hrs to cut/ carpet all 5 curtains approx 1 1/2 hours. Ill toss in a R/D cost of $40.00 to make the template (approx 30 mintues). So now we are at $255.00.
This gives you a rate of $127.50/ hr :eek: thats a pretty sweet gig.
I suppose for a person without the basic tools needed (jig and skill saw) and/ or the time, some sort of monetary charge would be fair but I think you are a bit steep. :help
Other then the $$$ I think they are both very clean pieces.
We could do the same breakdown for the cd changer/ dvd player/ etc box as well..... :confused
I think my main beef is, whenever someone tries to offer this forum something that is a HELLUVA lot cheaper than anything that is on the market, you STILL get bashed for it.
Take for example, my local Best Buy wanted $250.00 (without tax) to fabricate a curtain wall and an additional $150.00 to come up with some means of mounting the 2nd CD changer.
I was under the assumption that since most of us have spent excess $30k on our vehicles, $75.00 wouldn't be so bad.
Trust me, this is by NO means a way for me to make a full time living.
I have a career for that.
This was just a hobby, and a way to help out members that either don't have the time, the desire, or the tools to make something like this.
Gee, thanks.
Benny Z 09-29-2005, 02:29 PM hah!
the difference between you and best buy doing it is that the best buy guys (ugh) are (and i hate to say this...this is the loosest definition of this word possible) professionals.
if you think you've really got a hot product, buy a banner ad. people can't reply to banner ads. ...and it will give you more credibility. just my $0.02.
oh, and i paid just over $4k for my bimmer.
Benny Z 09-29-2005, 02:31 PM and, also...
YOU are the one who asked what we thought.
pistonsfan70 09-29-2005, 02:36 PM hah!
the difference between you and best buy doing it is that the best buy guys (ugh) are (and i hate to say this...this is the loosest definition of this word possible) professionals.
if you think you've really got a hot product, buy a banner ad. people can't reply to banner ads. ...and it will give you more credibility. just my $0.02.
oh, and i paid just over $4k for my bimmer.
5k here, just a reliable car to get me through my last couple years of college then I will be buying a significant upgrade. Can't beat 4 or 5k for a Bimmer though, they are sooo freakin reliable.
JPWheelr 09-29-2005, 02:38 PM What's the difference between communist russia and bf.c ca&e?
Communist Russia was less oppressive.
dwightf 09-29-2005, 05:43 PM hah!
the difference between you and best buy doing it is that the best buy guys (ugh) are (and i hate to say this...this is the loosest definition of this word possible) professionals.
if you think you've really got a hot product, buy a banner ad. people can't reply to banner ads. ...and it will give you more credibility. just my $0.02.
oh, and i paid just over $4k for my bimmer.
So now you are calling it non-professional, shoddy work? Give me a break. Credibility? Do you not trust him? You paid $4K for your bimmer, maybe that’s the problem buddy.
You want him to buy a banner so he will have to charge more and get bashed on price again? :confused
Don't take offense to these guys tdaniely, we e38 owners are a bit more anal about our installs being clean vs. a hack job. $50 - $75 also isn’t that bad to us compared to your typical e36 driver. Pssh, I pay $75 for a tank of gas for this beast.
Sephiroth619 09-29-2005, 06:00 PM .....A lot cheaper than a carpeted piece of wood from Bavarian Sound Works
:lol
JPWheelr 09-29-2005, 06:28 PM that's a cool ladder truck you got there mang.
Ben could make the argument in turn that the e38 is for a less skillful driver who cannot do anything for themselves. Hence automatic transmission only. Also that they may be too fat to fit in a smaller 3 series.
If you got mad there, drop it.
Peter
E23, E32, E38 owner (and I would have another 740 if I could afford a tranny swap, mmm 6 speed)
E34 M5
E36 325is
E36 M3
And just as lazy and picky and cheap as anyone else on this board
!
JPWheelr 09-29-2005, 06:29 PM and those beauty boards do look much nicer than a lot of the home-grown ones I have seen on here before, and nicer than a lot I have made. That the shipped price?
tdaniely 09-29-2005, 06:40 PM So now you are calling it non-professional, shoddy work? Give me a break. Credibility? Do you not trust him? You paid $4K for your bimmer, maybe that’s the problem buddy.
You want him to buy a banner so he will have to charge more and get bashed on price again? :confused
Don't take offense to these guys tdaniely, we e38 owners are a bit more anal about our installs being clean vs. a hack job. $50 - $75 also isn’t that bad to us compared to your typical e36 driver. Pssh, I pay $75 for a tank of gas for this beast.
Here here.....I don't get anywhere NEAR a full tank unless I take a $100.00 bill out of the wallet.
......And with any LUCK, i get a $20 back
dwightf 09-29-2005, 07:07 PM Obviously not a diverse BMW enthusiast, the e38 was offered with a 6-speed (just not in the U.S.). If YOU are mad, you should see how mad stock 325 drivers get when I rape them with a 4300lbs car.
Benny Z 09-29-2005, 11:21 PM i did not call his curtain non-professional, shoddy work. don't put words into my mouth. state your case, but don't twist what i said. go back and re-read.
what i DID say was that one would expect to pay a pretty penny for a piece like this made by a car audio installation professional. this gent, as nice as he seems to be, claims to have another profession. put 2 and 2 together.
with his profit margain, there should be no reason not to have advertising fees cushioned into the price.
...you should see how mad stock 325 drivers get when I rape them with a 4300lbs car.
no, what's sad is bragging about raping a 325. period.
dwightf 09-29-2005, 11:47 PM So are you saying a 325 is slow? My apologies, I didn’t mean to sound like I was putting words in your mouth. I just don’t think advertising is a viable option.
Benny Z 09-29-2005, 11:51 PM So are you saying a 325 is slow?
i would laugh at anyone who tries to convince me otherwise.
don't get me wrong, i have a lot of fun in my 325. it's a hoot for a family sedan. ...but it is hardly a straight-line stoplight racer.
Benny Z 09-29-2005, 11:56 PM also
i would sport a 740il any day of the week!
also
i would sport a 740il any day of the week!
Yupe, thats why I bought one :buttrock
Sephiroth619 09-30-2005, 03:11 AM tdaniely, both items look awesome. You have any other "inventions"? I'd love to see em.
jamesr316 09-30-2005, 04:04 PM i dont think $75 is unreasonable at all. I would guess around $25 for materials to purchase. Thats $50 worth of labor. I wouldn't mind paying someone $50 to make that for me, if it took 20 mins or 20 hours, $50 to make it is NOT that much...probably spend more on an OEM BMW lightbulb.
tdaniely 09-30-2005, 04:31 PM tdaniely, both items look awesome. You have any other "inventions"? I'd love to see em.
I'm always working on new toys....
Drop me a line at tdaniely @ yahoo.com
San Diego eh ? I may have to say hello next time I'm in town...I have people there...
I'd love to see more pics of YOUR audio install too...
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