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Kevlar
09-04-2005, 09:33 PM
GP Belgium - Preview
09/04/2005

The Belgium Grand Prix is the end of the European season for 2005. Twinned with Monza as a back-to-back race, Spa equally boasts a rich motor sport tradition after almost a century of motor racing. Nestled deep within the Ardennes forest, the track provides an exhilarating combination of long, fast straights, undulations and inspiring corners, while fickle weather adds another indeterminable element. One of the most popular races on the calendar, the Belgian Grand Prix undoubtedly provides all the ingredients for a potentially thrilling European curtain closer.
Having missed the Italian Grand Prix, it remains to be seen whether Nick Heidfeld will have recovered in time to resume his place in the cockpit of the FW27.

Nick Heidfeld:
"Although Spa is not particularly far from my home town of Mönchengladbach, I haven’t raced there much, which is a shame because Spa is one of the most beautiful circuits on the calendar. It has numerous fast corners and is wonderfully embedded into the landscape. Not only does this create a special atmosphere for the spectators, but also for the drivers. Personally, I find Eau Rouge one of the most unusual corners and I always tell everyone to view the race from it. The compression does not cause any physical problems, but the g-forces are unique. Drivers are used to sideways g-forces, or those experienced under braking. I’ve tried bob sleighing before and going through Eau Rouge feels just like you’re sitting in a bob.

Spa is notorious for its unpredictable weather. I’m hoping for rain because we don’t get many wet races, although Spa might not be the best venue for it. Similar to the former long forest straight at Hockenheim, the high speeds cause the water, blown up by the cars, to become trapped between the trees instead of being blown away by the wind."

Mark Webber:
"Clearly Spa is one of the most spectacular circuits we go to all year and I’ve always enjoyed driving an F1 car there. It has everything. It’s very quick, hugely challenging, the location is great and the undulations are absolutely fantastic. At this time of year, the weather can play a big part of the weekend so you never really know what’s going to happen. I’ve driven in races there when it’s been raining on one part of the circuit and dry in another. That only creates a problem though when visibility is bad, which it can be coming back from the Bus Stop from Blanchimont, and into Eau Rouge as well. Then Spa is dangerous. I’m not worried about rain though, last year was wet and it was fine. I also always enjoy driving long, fast laps in a race, which Spa demands, so I’m really looking forward to it."

Sam Michael (Technical Director, WilliamsF1):
"With so much natural terrain creating challenging corners and sequences for the drivers and engineers, Spa is a truly great circuit. Of course Eau Rouge and Blanchimont are great corners, but there is so much more to the track. The Bus Stop chicane, for example, has created some fantastic overtaking situations in the past.

Set-up is geared towards high and medium speed stability to ensure that when the cars make their way back from the far stretches of the circuit they are quick through the flowing parts of the track. At the same time, the car must be strong over the curbs through the chicane. The weather will also play a significant role over the weekend, with rain sometime falling on different parts of the circuit while not on others. We have further aerodynamic developments to the rear of the FW27 for this race and Michelin will be bringing two new tyre compounds for us to select from."


Mario Theissen (BMW Motorsport Director):
“These days, the term ‘natural circuit’ applies to only one Formula One track, and that’s Spa-Francorchamps. Firstly, the track follows the landscape rather than the other way round. Secondly, the austerity of the Ardennes can throw up sudden weather changes that are very hard to forecast. Last year, wets were needed for qualifying.

Spa demands a great deal from the BMW engines. The engines running in our cars in Spa will be the two that have already completed the Monza race. At 1,821 metres, Eau Rouge is the longest full-throttle section of the season, if taken flat out. In addition, Spa has a number of gradients making it a great challenge for both drivers and technology.”

Stats and facts:

Circuit/Date: Spa-Francorchamps / 11th September 2005
Start time (local/GMT): 14:00 hrs / 12:00 hrs
Lap/Race distance: 6.976 km / 306.944 km (44 laps)

Winner 2004: Kimi Raikkonen (McLaren-Mercedes)

Pole 2004: Jarno Trulli (Mild Seven Renault F1 Team),
1:56.232 min (on a damp track)

Lap record: Kimi Raikkonen (McLaren-Mercedes), 1:45.108 min (2004)

F1 statistics:
BMW WilliamsF1 Team: 100 starts, 10 wins, 17 poles
WilliamsF1 pre- 2000: 356 starts, 103 wins, 108 poles
BMW pre-2000: 97 starts, 9 wins, 15 poles


History and background:
Spa-Francorchamps has hosted 38 out of the 50 Belgian Grands Prix. Formula One has been held in Zolder ten times and in Nivelles twice.

In 1920, the idea of taking advantage of the triangle formed by the roads connecting Malmedy, Stavelot and Francorchamps to make a racing track was born. By August 1921, track preparations had been completed. However, the circuit’s inaugural event was not a car race but a motorcycle event due to a lack of interest. Cars eventually made their debut at Spa in 1922.

1924 saw Spa host the first 24-hour race. That was followed by the first significant single-seater event in 1925, namely the European Grand Prix. Of the seven cars that took part, Antonio Ascari won in an Alfa Romeo.

The Second World War brought an end to racing at Spa for seven years, up until 1947. 1970 witnessed the last race on the old course which, up to then, had been 14 kilometres long. Cars had become too fast for the track and drivers refused to accept the risks involved. The current circuit opened in 1979.

In 2003, Spa did not host a Formula One race due to tobacco advertising restrictions. In the interim, modifications were carried out around the old Bus Stop chicane and the track was extended by ten metres.

Other well-known features of the circuit, apart from Eau Rouge, are the fast Blanchimont section and La Source, the hairpin soon after the start which saw the biggest pile-up in Formula One history in 1998, fortunately without any injury to the drivers involved.

Couresty of BMW NA

rmani
09-04-2005, 09:36 PM
Spa = Best track ever. :buttrock

Perhaps the Mercedes engine and Michelin tire won't let Kimi down this time around. :(

X5FREDINKC
09-05-2005, 09:08 PM
Spa is a fantastic circuit, with many challenging areas. The superfast sweepers really test your skill as a driver, and your level of committment.
The weather is always an interesting element, and really musters the drivers skills.
Hopefully next Sunday will be equally as entertaining.

rmani
09-06-2005, 08:57 PM
Above all else don't forget to miss the start. The first turn at Spa is always a killer for all of the drivers.

JuliusPleaser
09-06-2005, 10:37 PM
Literally. It's surprising that no one was injured in the '98 start crash.Spa '98 (http://hjem.get2net.dk/togo/movie/start-crash-spa-98.mpg)

Kevlar
09-09-2005, 10:26 AM
GP Belgium - Practice
09/09/2005

Weather: rain. Temp: 19-22°C Air, 21-24°C Track
Spa-Francorchamps (BEL) Heavy rain, which is not unusual in this part of the world in September, hindered preparation for this weekend’s Belgian Grand Prix, with virtually no teams running in this afternoon’s washed-out second free practice session. Neither Mark or Antonio completed any laps, thus leaving the BMW WilliamsF1 team – like the other teams - to carry out the majority of its weekend’s programme tomorrow.

Mark Webber:
Chassis: FW27 04 (T-Car FW27 06) / BMW P84/5 Engine: 2nd GP
1st Practice: 5th (1:49.692 min)
2nd Practice: no running
It was a frustrating day because we didn’t get much information at all, as we only did two timed laps in the morning session. You never know what you are going to get weather-wise here - you just cannot predict. A lot of the teams opted to do more mileage in the second session but in the end the rain was too heavy to run. We now hope we can get some good running in the morning tomorrow and get ready for qualifying and the race.

Antonio Pizzonia
Chassis: FW27 03 / BMW P84/5 Engine: 2nd GP
1st Practice: 16th (1:53.535 min)
2nd Practice: no running
It’s nice to be back in the cockpit of the FW27 in Spa, my favourite track. Unfortunately I had a small accident this morning, which didn’t cost us any laps and didn’t really affect our programme. Still, it’s not the way you would like to start a GP weekend. The mechanics did a great job to fix everything quickly. In the second session it rained heavily so we didn’t go out on track but it was the same for most of the teams. This means we have a few extra laps to do tomorrow and we just have to try to get the most out of it.

Sam Michael (Technical Director, WilliamsF1):
It was a day of mixed weather, which is normal for Spa. This morning we got some limited running on a slightly damp track in order to check ride height, tyre pressures and top speed. In the second session it was too wet to run. Due to the fact in both the sessions the track was wet, the dry tyre compound choice is delayed to Saturday at 12 o'clock.

Mario Theissen (BMW Motorsport Director):
This afternoon's heavy rain might help the prosperous nature in Spa but in these conditions it is impossible to drive an F1 car properly. It is a shame for the spectators, but it is force majeur. Now it’s important to make the most out of tomorrow’s practice sessions in order to get the set-up right.

p1u1n1x1
09-09-2005, 01:31 PM
off topic, bu was anyone else reminded of Spa while watching Turkey? Maybe its just me, but the Turkish circuit reminded me a lot of Spa in a good way.

cgregory
09-09-2005, 04:10 PM
off topic, bu was anyone else reminded of Spa while watching Turkey? Maybe its just me, but the Turkish circuit reminded me a lot of Spa in a good way.
Definitely. I think someone mentioned on the broadcast that Tilke had used corners from the classic tracks in his design for Turkey. I would imagine Spa was a large part of the inspiration.

metale
09-11-2005, 10:08 AM
Monteiro scored! :redspot

Bad luck for montoya :(

sportcarm3
09-11-2005, 01:33 PM
Alonso has had a combination of skill and luck this season, even though he is most likely to win the championship everyone is labeling it as luck over skill, and I agree. Alonso is a bad ass driver there is no doubt but Kimi dominates when nothing goes wrong, during the first races Mclaren had the bad reliability issue but they got that sorted out and started stomping on everyone every race but then every thing that could go right for renault and wrong for mclaren has happened that is where luck comes into play. Especially with montoya just getting bumped off giving alonso an automatic 2 more points.

Its like Alonso is sitting out there not doing anything extraordinary just waiting for points to be handed to him, it is kind of irritating that he is on his way to a championship, but it seems to me everyone knows he has had more luck then anything this year, that is even what the speedchannel guys were saying during the race that Mclaren said if he wins it he would be the luckiest world champion ever. Don't get me wrong, Alonso is a fast driver, but it seems like everyone knows if mclaren didnt have bad luck he wouldnt be in his position.

This whole season has had so many different outcomes that its not like alot of outright skill was involved, if mclaren wasnt knocked out of so many races renault would be sitting in 2nd in the drivers and constructors championship's, i dont know, hopefully next season everything will be sorted out and Kimi and Montoya will stomp on the competition like everyone knows they can. Its almost heartbreaking to watch kick ass drivers dominate just to get everything taken away over something they have little to do with, and then watch the championship handed to a kid they know would be in the back without their DNF's. The only race I think kimi set himself up for a DNF was when he flat spotted his tire and wrecked on the last lap, all the other races it seemed like he has had no control over the luck. *vent at mclarens misfortune this season*

JuliusPleaser
09-11-2005, 01:44 PM
If anything, Alonso's position is even more remarkable given the fact that he's driving an inferior car.

That's not just luck - it's also skill. Did you see him hold off Schumi earlier this year? That was pure unadulterated SKILL. Calm, cool, collected skill.

If Kimi is so great, why is he chasing Alonso? His suspension failure while leading a race was due to a flat-spotted tire. . .a tire that KIMI flat-spotted because of a driving error. Driving errors rarely contribute to a WDC.


Stop acting like Alonso's success has been handed to him. It hasn't.

sportcarm3
09-11-2005, 01:51 PM
I never said it was handed to him, but you have to admit that he wouldnt have held on for so long if Kimi didnt have bad luck, in the above post I stated that I think Kimi deserved the DNF for the flat spotted tire but everything else was out of his hands, I just feel like the better driver isnt winning the championship, its just irritating watching Kimi walk all over Alonso but still have no chance at taking the championship because of other peoples mistakes, luck, whatever. I didn't say he didnt deserve it I just believe he wouldnt have it if Kimi had not had the bad luck.

Geo31
09-11-2005, 01:51 PM
It's said that luck is where preparation meets opportunity.

I think there was some luck involved, but isn't it amazing how some drivers are always lucky and others are always unlucky?

For anyone at McLaren to call Alonso lucky is absurd. They blew it and Renault didn't.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not much of an Alonso fan but for people to discount Alonso's championship by calling it lucky just doesn't set with me.

rmani
09-11-2005, 03:04 PM
Alonso is definitely a lucky guy, but it's not luck that the Renaults are finishing races and the Mclarens aren't. Pay Symonds has done a terrific job for the team and Alonso has done his part by taking a more defensive driving posture these last few races. He's an incredible driver. Yes I'd like to see Kimi win but if Alonso wins he definitely has earned it.

BETO
09-11-2005, 06:00 PM
Go Alonso!!!
Screw Kimi. Feel sorry for Juan.
In order to win a championship you need a combination of lots of things, including luck. Now you are going to call MS lucky because he had the best car last few years? :rolleyes
I was hoping Fernando would clinch the title today, but we can wait until Brazil. Man, I wish I could go, history in the making. Tell my kids and grandkids I saw the youngest driver ever until now to become a F1 champ.

p1u1n1x1
09-12-2005, 02:44 AM
I'm no Alonso fan, but you have to hand it to him; he has been right up there in just about every race, and that can't be said about his teamate which underscores his consistency and skill.

Kevlar
09-12-2005, 08:55 AM
Belgian GP - Qualifying
09/10/2005

Weather: changeable. Air 24-25°C, Track 28-33°C
Spa-Francorchamps (BEL) After yesterday’s deluge, drier weather conditions today meant the teams were able to complete their work programme ahead of tomorrow’s Belgian Grand Prix. In qualifying, Mark Webber set the 10th fastest time, despite being one of the early runners in the session, while Antonio was 15th fastest.

Mark Webber: 10th (1.48.071 min)
Chassis: FW27 04 (T-Car FW27 06) / BMW P84/5 Engine: 2nd GP
I am reasonably happy with my qualifying today, even if I lost a bit of time in the last sector, at the Bus Stop corner. We have a good set up for tomorrow, but obviously it’s a bit of a lottery here, as it all depends on the weather condition. It’s much more penalising to have a rain set-up on a dry track than the other way around and this track is definitely one of the most challenging for the engineers. We hope we’ll manage to score some points tomorrow, as we did last week in Monza.

Antonio Pizzonia: 15th (1.48.898 min)
Chassis: FW27 03 / BMW P84/5 Engine: 2nd GP
Qualifying went not so well for me. I am quite surprised with the lack of grip I had. After this morning’s free practice we made some changes to the car but they shouldn’t have affected the balance of the car that much. It was hard for me last week in Monza, to get used to everything so quickly, but I am in a better situation now, with some mileage under my belt already. Anything can happen during the race here in Spa, with such a crazy weather. It would be nice to collect some points tomorrow as a gift for my birthday.

Sam Michael (Technical Director, WilliamsF1):
It was good weather day today after all that wet practice yesterday. We have used this morning’s session to finalise the wing level and make our tyre compound choice. We had no mechanical issues. It was a good qualifying lap from Mark today. Now we will wait until tomorrow to see what strategy everyone is on and look forward to a strong race. The weather prediction shows there is still some rain about tomorrow.

Mario Theissen (BMW Motorsport Director):
After the heavy rain we had on Friday, track conditions today were fine in both free practice and qualifying. The main job for all the drivers this morning was to carry out the set-up work they couldn’t sort out yesterday. Mark did all right, whereas Antonio was not happy with his qualifyuing lap. We will see in the race how good their starting position really are. We had no thechnical problems.

Kevlar
09-12-2005, 08:56 AM
GP Belgium - Race
09/11/2005

Weather: Overcast. Temp: Air 17-18°C, Track 17-22°C
Spa-Francorchamps (BEL) It was a very hectic final race of the European season today and on a drying track, Mark Webber came through to finish an eventual fourth, having started 9th and collecting five valuable points for the BMW WilliamsF1 Team in the process. Team-mate Antonio Pizzonia had an accident with four laps to go and was forced into retirement.

Mark Webber: 4th Best time: 1:52.287 (lap 44 , 2nd overall)
Chassis: FW27 04 / BMW P84/5 Engine: 2nd GP
It was a difficult race, strongly affected by many changes of tyres. It was a shame that we lost a lot of time when the Safety Car came out at the start of the race and we switched to dry tyres and then back to intermediates again. We obviously took a gamble, as everyone did today. We could have scored even a better result but it was also very easy to be in the wall today. It’s long overdue for me to have, let’s say a ‘normal’ race, and I want to give this result to the team because it has been a tough season so far and they have put in a great effort. It is still not the result we want but we made the right decisions after all. It was also a good job by BMW, to get through two tough races with the same engine.

Antonio Pizzonia: DNF (accident on lap 40) Best time: 1:57.541 (lap 32, 15th overall)
Chassis: FW27 03 / BMW P84/5 Engine: 2nd GP
The race was hectic with the track conditions changing and consequent tyre changes. We made our pit-stops just after Mark, where I lost some time, but that was part of the game. With regards to the accident with Montoya, I was on dry tyres, and lapping quicker than him. He was quite slow maybe because his tyres were not good anymore or maybe he was just cruising to the end of the race. I thought he saw me and when he braked really early I thought he was trying to let me by. I put my car next to him but obviously he hadn’t seen me because he turned into his normal line and I couldn’t avoid the crash. I am sorry for him because I am not here to destroy anyone’s race. I destroyed my race too.

Sam Michael (Technical Director, WilliamsF1):
Today's race was a very exciting one for everybody. We picked up some good points with Mark. It was a good to go on dry tyres for the last laps. We tried earlier in the race to put both cars on dry tyres as did a lot of other teams. But it didn't work and both needed to pick up intermediates again. The Stewarts are investigating what happened when Antonio came together with Juan Pablo.

Mario Theissen (BMW Motorsport Director):
This was a really eventful race. As the entire weekend, it was influenced by the weather. Difficult conditions resulted in several accidents. Today the right strategy was crucial, especially to find the right moment for the change from intermediates to dry tyres. Many drivers tried this too early. Dry tyres were only the best choice for the last laps. This decision enabled Mark to improve to fourth position. Having started ninth, this is a very good result.