After considerable deliberation, I decided to put my '99 M3 on the market. The ad should appear on autotrader.com by friday, Roundel in November issue. Here's a summary:

For Sale
1999 BMW M3 Coupe
Estoril Blue Exterior/Mulberry Leather Interior
9600 miles, original owner, all receipts, brochures, manuals


A rare combination of performance, limited availability estoril/mulberry combo, extremely low miles, and excellent maintenance history.

Purchased 7/99 and driven only occasionally for short trips, BMW club events, and slightly modified with a few accessories to further my enjoyment of the car. Please review the items on the original window sticker for features/options that came with the car. I added a x-brace, ecis intake, k-mac front camber plates, koni susp kit (coilovers in front, lower springs in rear, single adjustable struts/shocks), Clifford alarm, and a Noah car cover. The original factory am/fm/cassette radio was replaced with a factory am/fm/cd radio. The car also has a 6 cd changer in the trunk. Car has 50% tint on all side and rear windows. I have the stock suspension parts and can easily have the car back to stock suspension setup. Car has 7 yr/70,000 mile extended warranty good till 7/06.

Please visit the autotrader.com listing for pictures, more details. I can be emailed at toy4speed@sbcglobal.net

The listing price is admittedly quite high for a ’99, however, this car is a very special example of the E36 model . Realizing that there are a very limited number of individuals that this car would appeal to, I will entertain offers for several weeks before removing the car from the market. Thanks for looking!

Listing price: $32,000
(only considering offers over $30k)

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/xtremeyolks@sbcglobal.net/album?.dir=/45d5&.src=ph&.tok=ph_9TgDBRijMQvzH

Holy Shit High Price Batman. You can buy a used E46M3 for that price. Good luck with the sale.

WOW!

I would love to be able to afford that!

thats a sweet ride, practily new. my favorite color combo. I just dont know if someone will be willing to pay that kind of price for a stock car when you can get one with F/I at a lot lower price. Good luck anyways

yea, if money was no object and i WANTED an E36, this would be the one. meh, but not for that price. i could be convinced either way about the price.

from his standpoint:

lets see, i bought the car brand new for $55,000 and had thoughts of it being a collecters car but now do not want to keep it. in six years time i have driven it the equivalent of what most people drive in 5 months. the car is basically brand new and even at $32,000 i will basically be taken a hit of 25 GRAND. christ, i cant give it away but must get at least this much to keep my sanity.

what he doesnt realize:

supply and demand.... blue book value... cars are not assets, they depreciate in value, blah blah blah, yadda, yadda, yadda, etc.

yea, if money was no object and i WANTED an E36, this would be the one. meh, but not for that price. i could be convinced either way about the price.

from his standpoint:

lets see, i bought the car brand new for $55,000 and had thoughts of it being a collecters car but now do not want to keep it. in six years time i have driven it the equivalent of what most people drive in 5 months. the car is basically brand new and even at $32,000 i will basically be taken a hit of 25 GRAND. christ, i cant give it away but must get at least this much to keep my sanity.

what he doesnt realize:

supply and demand.... blue book value... cars are not assets, they depreciate in value, blah blah blah, yadda, yadda, yadda, etc.

E36s M3 were 55k?!

I think the car is worth it, it's practially almost new. Now, would someone pay $30k for an e36 m3 when they can get an used E46 M3 for that price?
that's a tough one, but I'm sure the right buyer will appreciate this car

I will be selling my 2003 E46 and getting an E36. Not for 32k or anywhere remotely close to that.

Wow very rare care with incredibly low miles. :eek:

Hope you find a buyer who appreciates her. As others have said though I think it will be a tough sale considering e46 M3 values are dropping fast.

^^

true, but let's not forget about realibility. I was about to buy an E46 M3 for $25,000 but it had over 100k miles, and then after thinking and thinking about it, I said, the hell with it, it's probably gonna give lots of problems in the long run.
although you can find decent miles E46 M3 for that price ^

Oh yeah, it's a butt load of money. If you followed my original thread in the E36 M3 section, you know it wasn't an easy decision to market the car. I could sell it pretty easily for $25k, but it's an awesome car that I dearly love, so if I'm going to sell, it will be on terms I can live with (and I guess the rare buyer too). I would be equally happy to keep the car too. I've thought about other car comparisons too, and I'm really sort of a car junkie, but have trouble thinking of a car that stirs my emotions like this one. There isn't a new car out there with the looks, performance, history, of this model. The E36 is time tested. E46 M3 is a great car, but I would be careful buying a 2001 model (engine). The performance numbers are obviously there. New G35, TL, STi, Evo, all are fun, but check out prices/condition in 5 years. Examples of FI cars are stunning, but I would rather do it myself and resale of extremely modded cars are always tough. All in all, its up to the market, and that's what I'm finding out. Whatever happens, someone (maybe me) will get a great car, very special, and exclusive in many ways. Thanks all for looking!

Nice car man. Hold out till you get what you want.

I would hold out as well for your price. Sure someone can maybe go find an e46 M3 for around that price, but it isn't going to have anywhere near those miles or be in the same condition.

I'm sure its a nice car and all, but 30k for an E36 M3 is gonna be rather hard to get.

Although I should keep quiet about this I feel a reply is in order.

On all BMW M3 values... Having bought and sold MANY BMW M cars in the last few years both for fun and profit there is for sure a trend upwards in E36 M3 pricing.

Super nice no issue E36 M3's will sell for high 20's and low 30's. Yes, most of them will be BMW or Ind. dealer cars and it will take an exceptional car to make over 30k but it does happen when the right car and right buyer hook up.

Look what E30 M3's have done in the last few years. Low-Mid-teens forever until a few nice car started selling in the 20's again. Now many nice E30's bring from $18-25k. They have bottomed and have returned strong. Why? because they are great car and there are not that many really nice examples. The same is now becoming true for the E36 M3.

We, as Americans love a deal. But all of us who are real BMW M enthusiasts know the difference between a really nice car and a 20 footer. 20 footer E36 M3's sell in the teens regularly and they are still great cars. They however will never again, no matter how well taken care of or restored, be low mileage, no issue, no story cars. Yes, all cars are depreciating assets. However, one of the reason we own these critters is that they have a much stronger resale value than most average cars, and the select few extremely nice examples will always bring great money. In short, there are NO deals!

On E46 M3's. They are just plain tough to sell right now. A supply problem. There have been many thousand more E46 M3's produced since 2001 than all other previous BMW M cars combined. They are without doubt great automobiles but are certainly not desirable in the used marketplace at this time. I personally know many owners who have an E46 M3 that have either gone back to an E36 or E30 or for a second car, or weekend track fun etc. With the numbers of E46's on the road it will be a long time before that is the case with them. That being said if anyone knows of a good E46 M3 for $32k? let me know I will buy them all day. I assure you there is no such animal.

One thing is true about the highline car business and has been forever. You absolutely get what you pay for. You can fool yourself about buying a cheaper version of your dream car but you are only fooling yourself. It will not be the cream of the crop, and it never will be. Yes, there is an occasional deal to be found but as someone that probably knows every nice E36 M car in the country that is publically for sale and has bought many of them I can tell you those deals are very, very few and far between. Yes BMW M cars depreciate but there is always a select few cars that bring the big money. With the price of new M3's in the mid-to high 50's or more why exactly is a pristine E36 1999 M3 a bad buy at $30k+ When a average equipped chevy 4X4 pick-up lists for $35k? I don't thing so.

Doug

I'm sure its a nice car and all, but 30k for an E36 M3 is gonna be rather hard to get.


Agreed, but if I had the money I would buy it....these cars are so much better than the E46 M3 IMO....and you could probably put a considerable amount of mileage on this car and sell it in a few years without a big loss...good luck with the sale

Agreed, but if I had the money I would buy it....these cars are so much better than the E46 M3 IMO....and you could probably put a considerable amount of mileage on this car and sell it in a few years without a big loss...good luck with the sale


how would you know? have you owned an e36 m3 or an e46 m3?

the car is very nice, but it isnt worth 30k at all... you may get 30k from some idiot that has too much money burning a hole in his pocket, but no sane person would buy a 30k 6year old used m3.

I would certanly not say the E36 M3 is superior in any way to an E46 M3. The E46 is a much better long distance road car, it is faster, it is quieter, and the ride is superior. On the negative side they are much more work to make track worthy as they have a few issues relating to low speed handling and understeer, they are in my opinion a half size two big and at least 3-400 lbs too heavy. All in all though, I cannot think of any car, at any price,that can do everything as well as an E46 M3 does.

I would certanly not say the E36 M3 is superior in any way to an E46 M3. The E46 is a much better long distance road car, it is faster, it is quieter, and the ride is superior. On the negative side they are much more work to make track worthy as they have a few issues relating to low speed handling and understeer, they are in my opinion a half size two big and at least 3-400 lbs too heavy. All in all though, I cannot think of any car, at any price,that can do everything as well as an E46 M3 does.


very well put. Ive had 2 e36 m3s and an e46 m3. I plan on adding another e36 to the garage as a occasional street/track car. I love the e36 to death, but as far as which one is a better all around car, it goes to the e46 without a doubt. The e36 is much lighter and nimble, but kind of lack the power that the new cars are putting out. On the other hand, the e46 is a bit to heavy, but it has a much nicer interior and is much more comfortable for longer drives. Plus the e46 with 19s reels in way more pussy.

-jon

how would you know? have you owned an e36 m3 or an e46 m3?

the car is very nice, but it isnt worth 30k at all... you may get 30k from some idiot that has too much money burning a hole in his pocket, but no sane person would buy a 30k 6year old used m3.


:eek: What an angry post. Normally I stay out of these, but your comments are pretty opinionated. I'd pay more for a car in pristine condition. Many others would and have. Nothing against you (I purchased a cai from you), but namecalling potential buyers is a little overboard :devillook .

At any rate, niether of us belong in this thread. But I'd like to say NICE ///M, and here's another vote for staying the course.

jjr

:eek: What an angry post. Normally I stay out of these, but your comments are pretty opinionated. I'd pay more for a car in pristine condition. Many others would and have. Nothing against you (I purchased a cai from you), but namecalling potential buyers is a little overboard :devillook .

At any rate, niether of us belong in this thread. But I'd like to say NICE ///M, and here's another vote for staying the course.

jjr


thanks for your input, but it isnt an angry post. Im just trying to figure out where atl gets his opinions from. FUrthermore, i dont disagree with paying more for a newer, less mileage car. Finally, please show me where i was "namecalling." (feel free to use exact quotes from my post) :confused . thanks.
-jon

p.s. AtlzDesiKhiladi is a deadbeat buyer... ask me how i know... :nono

....you may get 30k from some idiot....

Here's your name calling... basically saying that anyone interested in this car at this price is an idiot.

I seen a '98 EB/Black recently sell for 27,000 (at a dealership), so the market is there if someone is looking for this exact car.

I'm in the market for an EB car, but not in the market for a 30k car. If I was, I would be all over this. Fine so I'm an idiot... I've been called worse. :stickoutt :stickoutt ;)

Good luck on the sale !
Super rare to find one of these with that kind of mileage.

You'll get your buyer, maybe not from here but someone will be interested for sure.

Good to see that you're putting the car in the Roundel as well, a lot more motivated buyers over there looking for cars in this type of condition and mileage.

Let us know when it gets sold!

People need to stop bashing his thread, but if I had the money to buy a low mileage e36 m3 this would be the one. There are not many of these cars with that low of mileage floating around and his asking price is fair. If you don't have the money to buy it or have props to give to his car... don't rag on his thread.

Bump for a clean ass estoril.

You guys are on crack. An enthusiast will definately pay that for this low mileage of a car. It's like getting the oppurtunity to buy a new E36. Wish I had the money dude. Good luck!

NADAs average retail for this car is $27300. I dont think his price is the least bit steep. I would much rather buy a car that has been cared for with low mileage for a higher price than a higher mileage car that Im going to have to but tons of more money into to make perfect again. Great looking car and Im sure you will not have a problem selling it. I would buy it if I had the funds right now.

Josh K

how would you know? have you owned an e36 m3 or an e46 m3?

the car is very nice, but it isnt worth 30k at all... you may get 30k from some idiot that has too much money burning a hole in his pocket, but no sane person would buy a 30k 6year old used m3.


Your an opinionated idiot, always have been ,always will.

A 9800 mile 99 M3 in a desirable color combo from the original owner is worth $30K, EASILY. You guys must not shop the rare low mile used car market much do you. Ever see 5K miles 88 911's for $40K? I do. And they sell. You may call the purchaser an idiot, I call him a purist looking for the BEST example on the road. Not a f'in beat down 80K miles, engine replace, out of warranty, crapbox 01 M3 for $32K. You guys need to get a life.

I agree with the above post. Very well put... :buttrock

Josh K

Well, I have no hard feelings toward anyone expressing their honest opinions. At least everything is up front and open to all. That's what I'm trying to do also. Not desperate to sell the car, but will for the right price and right buyer. I don't expect an idiot to come to my door with cash, and probably wouldn't sell to anyone I'd consider a rider of the short bus. I don't need the money, not that bad anyway.

Update on things for those interested. Have received offers for the car over the phone (as serious as a phone offers can be), for $25k, $26k, and $27k.
Pretty good, and if I was selling just to sell, I might let it go. However, I'm selling only if I feel "good" about letting this car go. Right price, right buyer. Might not happen...that's ok too. I'm checking out Sparco Torino seats for comfortable street use. I just don't slide into those darn vaders very easily.

Thanks for all the bumps!

m3j0n you're geyyyy. stop posting in people's threads bashing about their price just cuz your're so cheap.

On the other hand, the e46 is a bit to heavy, but it has a much nicer interior and is much more comfortable for longer drives. Plus the e46 with 19s reels in way more pussy.

And what do you know about getting pussy? You no pussy gettin mothafucka

how would you know? have you owned an e36 m3 or an e46 m3?

the car is very nice, but it isnt worth 30k at all... you may get 30k from some idiot that has too much money burning a hole in his pocket, but no sane person would buy a 30k 6year old used m3.


to add to what nimble said

this is a classic comment by a used car buyer which has no relevance... a "6 yr old used m3" ..... first off its obviously gonna be used but more so to the 6 yr old.. this has no relevance. if it was an e30 m3 with 20k miles and it was an 88, yes it would be 17 yrs old but it would still be worth around 25,000.

this car would not only bring 30,000 retail but it woudl bring 30,000 at riverside seeing as two months ago at manheim a silver 99 m3 with 7500 miles did 27,5 + fees and the car on carfax had 22,000 reported miles 2 yrs ago so that should tell you something.

m3j0n, stop trashing peoples threads and stop attacking this dude and the other guy by saying have u owned an e36 m3 and an e46 m3 . you sound so proud with those statements like you bought those cars, you didn't. not all people are lucky to have their parents purchase hella nice cars for em.


for 30,000 you could definitely get this car or a nice 01 e46 m3 with around 50k - 70k miles. I would personally take the e46 m3 cause id be afraid to drive the 99 and put all those miles on it but the 99 m3 definitely will have a market at 30,000 and it will prob sell fast.

you guys seem to know everything....

Your an opinionated idiot, always have been ,always will.




you'rE a bad speller. btw, thats a personal attack... the correct spelling with this usage is "you're," not "your." ITs amazing that those people that think these cars are "worth that kind of money," usually dont have the money to back up their claim. You guys can call me an opinionated idiot, but heres the deal: I think that he will sell it for his asking price, i personally dont think its worht that kind of money however. There arent too many cars that increase in value over the years and the e36 m3 will not be one. It was a great car, but its been replaced... its still a mass production vehicle.

-jon (who, according to 2pak and iwannadinanm3, lives off his parents....

you'rE a bad speller. btw, thats a personal attack... the correct spelling with this usage is "you're," not "your." ITs amazing that those people that think these cars are "worth that kind of money," usually dont have the money to back up their claim. You guys can call me an opinionated idiot, but heres the deal: I think that he will sell it for his asking price, i personally dont think its worht that kind of money however. There arent too many cars that increase in value over the years and the e36 m3 will not be one. It was a great car, but its been replaced... its still a mass production vehicle.

-jon (who, according to 2pak and iwannadinanm3, lives off his parents....

Thanks Il jot that down....woops, there goes that spelling problem again....(it's, I'll not il)........

Gorgeous. And I bet it's nicer in person. Has it been garaged? These cars are such good daily drivers, I can't believe you don't drive it daily.

As for e36/e46, if the only meaningful deficit of the older car is power, well, you can strap on a safe, reliable blower and the e36 will accelerate like an e46, and then some. I think the e46 is great, but when I think about buying a used one for $40k, or a car like this estoril, plus $8-$10 in FI, plus an SSK (essential), I would buy this one. Better, time-tested engine reliability, better handling (arguably), cheaper and deeper aftermarket, super clean, killer color. With luck and good care, the thing will go 200k. Price starts to look feasible.

Good luck with the sale.

Free Bump for a beautiful car. If I had unlimited funds I would buy it in a heart beat, but unfortunetly that is not the case. I have owned two 318ti and it is now time to step up to a M3 and your color combo is exactly what I have drooled over for years. If you want it to go to a loving home and can talk on price in the mid 20s then shoot me an email at kfogg@avcvm.com. I just sold my wrx and are looking for a M3.

Great car thats worth the money but posting it on here is not the move to make. Sell this car anywhere else but here, most of these "buyers" dont know the first thing about a cars value, conditon or anthing else for that matter. Bunch of herbs on here!
Good luck selling a great machine!

Great car thats worth the money but posting it on here is not the move to make. Sell this car anywhere else but here, most of these "buyers" dont know the first thing about a cars value, conditon or anthing else for that matter. Bunch of herbs on here!
Good luck selling a great machine!

very true. This for sale section everyone likes to lowball the hell out of anyone selling anything. You best bet to sell that kind of car is to put an ad in roundel, or Dupont Registery. good luck.

and as far as the pricing. It's well known that the e36 m3's always sells for more than blue book. If a 95 m3 books at $7.5 and sells for 11-12
surely your car that books at $27 would sell for $30.

i would keep it... u help on to it for this long... e30s going for 16+ now

you guys seem to know everything....

I was thinking the same thing about you. When are you guys(kids) going to learn that it show's really poor judgement to post these kind of comments in somebody's classified ad. It's his car and he has the right to ask whatever he wants, which IMO, is right in line based on the condition, mileage and color combo.

If I was in the market for a pristine E36 M3, I wouldnt hesitate to make an offer.

Good luck to the seller...

has the car been repainted at all? the drivers side looks like it has been worked on. Just wondering. Otherwise, it looks very nice

Do you still have the car? Would you be willing to work some kind of a trade I know you didnt say anything about it but I have an 04 Ford Fx4 F-150 that I will be selling to buy some E36 and it would be alot easier to trade it. Beautiful car first one I have seen under 20K miles.

Well, If ever there was a E36 M3 that could sell for 30k plus, excluding LTW's, it would have to be a 99 with under 10k miles, CHECK, and would have to be one of THE best color combos, CHECK. Now all you gotta do is find a buyer, he is out there somewhere, sounds like a good candidate for EBAYMOTORS.com. Good thing is, the car aint excactly gonna depreciate, so aslong as you have the time to troll with your asking price you will be fine. I just "fire" saled my 95 M3 for $8k and am about to do the same with my 99 m3(65k mi) for $20k, if i had the time/money and patience i would have held out for more money. Is a 10k mile MINT 99 m3 worth $30k? yeah, but, unfortunately not my money. then again I gag everytime is see an E30 M3 or M6 sell for over $20k, goddamn silly ass yuppy //M over estimators.

Cars are always only worth what someone is willing to pay for them, and someone out there is searching for a "Smithsonian" quality CPO E36 M3 and is willing to pay whatever it takes.

My guess is you will only find him on EBAY, run a 10 day listing and keep re-running it until in sells for YOUR price. Otherwise you will get 99 dreamers/critics for every 1 buyer.

You are so lucky its Estoril on Mulberry, its gotta be, by popular vote, THE prettiest color combo in an E36.

If i were deeply in love with E36 M3's i would probably offer $26k, if i were deeply in love with car, didnt work in the car business, and had enough money to purchase anything i wanted, 30k sounds fair, but i'd want confirmation that it had never ever been farted in.....that would seal the deal for me.

Yep, still have the car. At $30k+ it's not going anywhere quickly. I'll wait a while, no rush on my part. It should come out in the Roundel in a month or so.

No, sorry, not interested in trades.

Yes, the car has been farted in, but the a/c and tilt sunroof work perfectly well :D

I bought a car from Ebay before. Worked out ok. Maybe I was just lucky. I just don't feel comfortable with the selling process. This car is going to a great home or staying with me. I'll have a 5 car garage by next year, so I'm almost looking forward to keeping and enjoying the car. Will have to drive the heck out of it early next year. Extended warranty up in July '06, or 70k miles.

I've had some interesting conversations with shoppers. Scams are common.

Sure, send me a cashiers check (bogus) for $10k over the price (supposedly to cover shipping, etc.), and I ship the car out of the country AND refund the difference via wire transfer. Gotta laugh :rolleyes

has the car been repainted at all? the drivers side looks like it has been worked on. Just wondering. Otherwise, it looks very nice

????

It's going to be awfully hard to move it at that price as a private party.

SICK car none the less.

How come you never drove it?

m3jon, sorry I didn't answer your question. I didn't think you were addressing my car. No body work has been performed. All is original, paint, body pieces, wheels, tires, muffler, interior. I can't say the car is exactly as new, since there are a few small chips in the front from freeway driving, but no repairs, just routine maintenance.

It's going to be awfully hard to move it at that price as a private party.

SICK car none the less.

How come you never drove it?

My job is 5 minutes from home. I didn't want to leave the M3 in the parking lot all day, better in my garage. Weekends either I'm driving family around in one of our larger vehicles (suburban, volvo wagon) or autoxing somewhere in one of 3 other cars. I brought the M3 out to a few BMWCCA autox events, never any long trips, just some occasional local drives. I wish it could be driven more, but I won't park it just anywhere and it's not the best vehicle for taking to Costco.

well, since its been farted in i will offer you $19,950, but ofcaorse, your gonna have to wait until i sell my 99 first. thanks, my deposit check has been electronically submitted via BF.com PM mail, awaiting your approval, thanks.

Is this car still forsale?

The car is still for sale, at least until the Nov. issue of Roundel comes out. If nothing acceptable develops after that, I'll keep the car and plan on a few mods. FYI, the price is still firm. Thanks.

Wow, this is exactly what I want, but even if I sold my car, I'd still only have $10k less than what you want for it :(

Best of luck on the sale, and I must say that is the cleanest E36 M3 I've seen to grace on these forums :love1

I'm charging you with ///M Neglect!

Unless you own a Turbo Porsche, there is no excuse for not driving this car. Steven Hawking could put 40,000 miles on this car easy.

Guilty as charged. One of the reasons why I'm willing to list the car for sale.
However, as you can see by the price, I'm not trying very hard. I definitely will drive the car more next year. Keeping it pristine is going to be less critical as it becomes such an old car.