Wow....

Sportsnet Report (http://www.sportsnet.ca/autoracing/article.jsp?content=20050825_090215_2756)

No surprise if it's true...

Interesting article, sounds like contract negotiation positioning. Two years is a long time.

Sounds like a rumor to me.....

"Why should I be thinking about a move? I am in a situation most Formula One drivers can only dream about," the Finnish driver said in a statement released by his team.

-Kimi


What would be Kimi's motivation for moving, unless Ferrari is offering some serious cash. He's already driving a car and is a memeber of a team capable of taking him to the championship (reliability issues aside). It'll be interesting to see if there is anything to this.

Ron will never let Kimi go, although I'm sure Ferrari would like to have him.

this is an article from Grandprix.com which has proven to be correct in the past

Raikkonen at Ferrari (without the question mark)

Usually reliable sources are now telling us that Kimi Raikkonen will definitely be moving to Ferrari in 2007, which clearly upsets the applecart of the Formula 1 driver market, unless we are to believe that Raikkonen and Michael Schumacher will agree to be in the same team together. This being the case there would be no room for Felipe Massa. However, if there is no future for Massa at Ferrari in the long term, Jean Todt would have been unlikely to have signed up the Brazilian because a Todt Family company manages Felipe and it would have made no sense at all to have made such a move. Todt could have put in any driver for 2006, without needing to burn a major family asset.

Thus, if the sources are correct, Michael Schumacher will not be at Ferrari in 2007. This is unlikely to have happened without Michael knowing about it, because he and Jean Todt have always been close and it is unlikely that Todt would have pulled such a stunt. So, one must presume that Schumacher knows he is retiring and all the talk of moving elsewhere is a smokescreen to cover what Ferrari is really up to.

The validity of all these arguments rests on the source of a Raikkonen deal but we have found this source to be highly reliable over the years and sufficiently connected to know who is going where.

So the next question that leaps to mind, is who is going to be going to McLaren to replace Kimi in 2007?

I think this has gotten a bit blown out of proportion. Anything can happen over the 2006 season so it's too soon to start looking at the driver lineups for 2007. I do think Kimi will eventually make the move, and also feel certain that MS would never leave Ferrari to drive for another team. Most likely he'll retire or drive alongside Kimi for a year or two more. He's just too good I don't see why he can't continue racing for at least another 4 years.

MS wants a little more money, and he is only planning on running the 2006 season with Ferrari. He might move over to McLaren for 2007 season. That would be neat to see.

I seriously doubt that Schumi will ever drive for another team. He will probably retire at the end of 2008. Massa will probably just drive for Ferrari for the 06 season. I also think that Kimi that will move to Ferrari in 07 once Massa is out.

Ferrari probably just needed a driver to replace Rubens while they wait for Kimi's contract to expire with McClaren, so they picked Massa. Massa is pretty good. Even if he is a 'midpack driver', he has a pretty good finishing ratio I think.

I have no idea who will drive with Kimi in 08 though. Way too much can happen.

Just in case anyone has forgotten, Schumy left Bennetton because of the almighty dollar. If you also remember the Flavio said in 1994 that there was not a driver out there worth what Schumy was asking. Would he change teams again? Absolutely! Would he love to close his career with a German manufacturer for which he started his career? He is a fantastic driver, but the Ferrari has been struggling with the Bridgestones for several years. I know, I know, Ferrari have won a lot of races in the past years, but the dominance they once had was slowly taken away by the Michelin teams.

It wouldn't suprise me , but a lot can happen between now and the end of 2006. They don't call it a circus for nothing.

I want kimi to stay with mercedes, especially since I am comtemplating an AMG mercedes right now haha

http://f1.racing-live.com/f1/en/index.html

Just in case anyone has forgotten, Schumy left Bennetton because of the almighty dollar.

Didn't Ferrari also essentially give him carte blanc to build the team how he wanted it?

Another thing to remember is that F1 might abandon the 1 tire per weekend rule for 2006, giving Ferrari a chance to go back to doing what they do best. Pound out fast laps and replace the tires often. BAR/Honda also might be running Bridgestone's next year, so this will help Bridgestone build a more competitive tire.

I have heard that several teams were switching to Bridgestone tires next year to somewhat level the playing field including Williams.

Schumacher certainly has a lot of leverage at Ferrari, but as everyone has stated there is a lot of time which will pass before the circus gets cleared up.

I think that is wrong - FIA is switching to one tire supplier, aren't they?

I have heard that several teams were switching to Bridgestone tires next year to somewhat level the playing field including Williams.

MS would retire soon if he doesn't get good results next year. It'll be awesome to have Schumi and Kimi in Ferrari in 2007. I'd love to see Kimi and JPM in Ferrari, that'll be a dream team for me.

little update for anyone interested.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/4187690.stm

I seriously doubt that Schumi will ever drive for another team. He will probably retire at the end of 2008. Massa will probably just drive for Ferrari for the 06 season. I also think that Kimi that will move to Ferrari in 07 once Massa is out.

Ferrari probably just needed a driver to replace Rubens while they wait for Kimi's contract to expire with McClaren, so they picked Massa. Massa is pretty good. Even if he is a 'midpack driver', he has a pretty good finishing ratio I think.

I have no idea who will drive with Kimi in 08 though. Way too much can happen.
Quit possible. I also read that he be the first "Athlete" to earn 1 BILLION DOLLARS :eek:

I seriously doubt that Schumi will ever drive for another team. He will probably retire at the end of 2008. Massa will probably just drive for Ferrari for the 06 season. I also think that Kimi that will move to Ferrari in 07 once Massa is out. ...
Quit possible. I also read that he may be the first "Athlete" to earn 1 BILLION DOLLARS :eek:

Quit possible. I also read that he may be the first "Athlete" to earn 1 BILLION DOLLARS :eek:

He is the richest athlete as of now. Tiger Woods is in second I believe...

Valentino Rossi -
Been testing with ferrari twice in the last 2 years. His 20 million a year contract with Yamaha ends in 2006. He's the best Motorcycle Racer in History and He's Itailian.

He is only 25 and would be the perfect fit for ferrari for Schumi to groom, and we all know Schumi wont go drive for another team.

Think of all the other motorcycle racers that went on to be great F1 Champs

Valentino Rossi -
Been testing with ferrari twice in the last 2 years. His 20 million a year contract with Yamaha ends in 2006. He's the best Motorcycle Racer in History and He's Itailian.

He is only 25 and would be the perfect fit for ferrari for Schumi to groom, and we all know Schumi wont go drive for another team.

Think of all the other motorcycle racers that went on to be great F1 Champs

That is an intersting angle. I am not familar with the motorcycle-F1 jump, but it seems possible. However, 25 seems pretty old, by F1 standards to start a career. It seems they want to groom the kids from about 16 years old and work them through the feeder circuits.

forgive the misspelling - Damon Hill and Serti

Surtees I think :)

http://www.grandprix.com/ft/ft00085.html

Kimmi is kicking the crap out of everyone in his McLaren. Would he switch to Ferrari for more money and no Championship?

Hell No!

Rumors Rumors Rumors.

-prince

MS would never allow to have a team mate that could be potentially faster than he is. if kimi signs for ferrari that can only mean retirement or team switch for MS.

Who says Rubins isn't faster than Schumy? Ferrari has kept him down so long it's hard for him to make an honest move without some serious scrutiny as to Ferrari team orders all these years. Wait till he gets to BAR and then you'll see what Rubins is made of ... and how he's been kept in Michael's shadow all these years.

-Prince

I'd put money on Rossi on 07

Who says Rubins isn't faster than Schumy? Ferrari has kept him down so long it's hard for him to make an honest move without some serious scrutiny as to Ferrari team orders all these years. Wait till he gets to BAR and then you'll see what Rubins is made of ... and how he's been kept in Michael's shadow all these years.

-Prince

How many races have you watched this season, exactly?

Also, Ferrari drivers leaving to be someone else's No. 1 haven't exactly had such a hot track record ~coughEddieIrvinecough~.

Oh my stars and garters :eek:

This will be huge for Ferrari if this really pans out..Honestly though, if I was an F1 driver...and Ferrari came a knocking...I would gladly let them in...Even if it was for a few seasons only....Some of the best drivers of all time have driven for Ferrari at one point or another...Kinda like playing for the Yankees...I've just put on my NOMEX suit...so you can flame away if you want.

More speculation from F1 Live and La Republicca...they're saying Raikkonen/Rossi at Ferrari in 07.

http://f1.racing-live.com/f1/en/index2.html?

Oh my stars and garters :eek:

This will be huge for Ferrari if this really pans out..Honestly though, if I was an F1 driver...and Ferrari came a knocking...I would gladly let them in...Even if it was for a few seasons only....Some of the best drivers of all time have driven for Ferrari at one point or another...Kinda like playing for the Yankees...I've just put on my NOMEX suit...so you can flame away if you want.

Some great drivers have driven for McLaren. Some for Williams. So what's so great about Ferrari? Ferrari has done a lot for the sport, but they have also acted like asses that have damaged autoracing too (especially in recent years).

How many races have you watched this season, exactly?

Look at Indy. Look at every race where Rubins has come 2nd to Michael's first. Ferrari continues to keep him down by showing obvious preference to Schumy.

Here's my point...

If I'm Kimmi, I see Ferrari, a company that uses Bridgestone tires (which suck this season). I see myself winning. I see the team getting better and better. I see a potent teammate, but a teammate that pushes me moreso than most other drivers could. Lastly, I see a team that "gets stuff becuase they want it" and that's a huge turn-off.

In the end, it's a job to them and they want to win the championship. If Ferrari can offer that to him, then he may go. However, McLaren has taken its time and delivered on a car that can win the WC. They've been good to him and he's been good to them. Right now Kimmi has no reason to switch teams. If the Mercedes 2.4L V8 sucks, then you only have to look at last season to see that they'll come back and make a good product capable of winning. And if they are as strong next year as they are this year, screw those scarlett bastards.

-Prince

Some great drivers have driven for McLaren. Some for Williams. So what's so great about Ferrari? Ferrari has done a lot for the sport, but they have also acted like asses that have damaged autoracing too (especially in recent years).

Nothing wrong with McLaren or Williams...but I've been a Ferrari fan since the early 80's (yes I'm that old)...And I they are my favorite cars...I won't get into a pissing match in regards to racing history of all of these teams...I just hold Ferrari in a higher regard.

didnt rubens get his first win in a ford when jackie stewart stared a team. someting tells me im wrong but i dont know.
why would raikkonen leve he has almost the same thing ms got but hes a better driver.
and i didnt click on the link for the rossi raikkonenn thing but that would crtainely be an amazing team.

Rubens never won a race in a Stewart-Ford. His teammate Johnny Herbert won twice, but the best Rubens could do was one pole.

Rubens' first win came at Ferrari in 2000.

When Schumy and Rubens are 1-2, Schumy slows down so they can cross the line almost side by side. That says a lot about how much faster he is.

When Schumy and Rubens are 1-2, Schumy slows down so they can cross the line almost side by side. That says a lot about how much faster he is.

It's the other way around. When Spoonface and Reubens finish 1-2, Reuben slows down so Spoon can pass him for the #1. That says A LOT about how much faster he is.

Also, Ferrari drivers leaving to be someone else's No. 1 haven't exactly had such a hot track record ~coughEddieIrvinecough~.

umm.....Nigel left Ferrari and won a Championship w/Williams

UPDATE!! Monteiro/Albers at Ferrari in 2007!!!............ :confused

This thread only confirms the circus that F1 really is. I love the sport and watch every race, but keeping track of drivers is a hard deal nowdays.

At this moment in time, I can't see Kimi leaving McLaren, but if he did I would like to see him go to Ferrari. 2007 is a while away and a lot can happen so we'll just have to see. As for a Schumi/Raikkonen team..that would be awesome, but unlikely.

As for Massa, I think he's a place holder, like Heidfeld is at Williams until Button gets there..or will he? Again, the circus is in town and we'll see next January!

Great thread though!

It's the other way around. When Spoonface and Reubens finish 1-2, Reuben slows down so Spoon can pass him for the #1. That says A LOT about how much faster he is.

I totally agree. Sitting at USGP, I was talking to another bimmer fan behind me about the rubens vs MS race (....it was the only race going on @ the '05 USGP). Rubens was faster than MS consistantly but somehow rubens' last pit just happened to be 2-3 seconds slower than it should have taken. MS was 2 seconds behind in P2 and that 2 seconds that rubens got held up in the pits, pretty much cost him the race. You know that rubens was held up on purpose to let MS get his only win he is getting this season. I hate this kind of politics behind F1. Kills the racing aspect of it. Oh well, its not the first time that thats happened... otherwise rubens would have a few more wins under his belt err... 7 point harness :D

umm.....Nigel left Ferrari and won a Championship w/WilliamsAs did Prost .