I was going to FedEx today when I was sitting at a stoplight bored out of my mind. I look at the cars streaming in front of me from another direction and I notice a C5 Corvette that just floors it and takes off. That made me happy in pants. Also gave me the desire to do the same.

Guess he gave a couple of people that feeling.

As the light turns green, I smoothly put it into first and accelerate. I don't drop the clutch, light up the ASC, or spin the tires. Just trying to get up there and hear that inline six run.

*PSHHHHHH* What the huh?

A Dodge SRT-4 is beside me and wants to play too. Now, mind you, there isn't a lot of room in front of us. Probably a quarter mile until the next stop light with a line of waiting cars. And my intention wasn't really to race, but once I hear him BOV at full throttle... hey, why not have fun?

I keep on it and get up to third. The whole time I'm ahead of the SRT-4. When I get into third, its time to brake or slam into the back of a Mommymobile at 70 mph. I choose brake. The SRT-4 was gaining on me at this point anyway. Not surprising, since he seems modded and I'm oh-so-very stock.

I move to the left turn lane (the SRT-4 continues straight), slam on the brakes, and do a downshift at the same time. As I downshift while braking on the threshold, the ABS lights up and I vaporize some rubber. Whoa, now, slow 'em down quick now.

As the SRT-4 keeps going straight, I look over and I'm greeted with an unemotional driver of the slightly angry looking sort. :dunno

I had my fun.

what mods have you done to your car?

Not surprising, since he seems modded and I'm oh-so-very stock.


Your lucky you ran out of road so quickly, you would have been toast.

yeah, Chances are he took it easy, because they get next to nothing for traction on a launch. SO he might have taken it easy, then was really getting on it. Or he was a low boosting SRT (maybe stock) and didn't have as much low end grunt. Or maybe he just coudln't drive. But once he didnt have to worry about launch/traction he would've definately spanked ya.

Also good job on not rear ending another car. Tis a sad way to end a race. :D

Those toys (SRT-4's) are quick you will need some M//Power for kill. There was one heavily modified, it has a full body kit, custom rims and custom exhaust with whole bunch of other blings and loud Pssssss that wanted to play. I was on 5th at around 70mph then down shifted to 4th and pulled up to about 100+ he never caught up until and let off because of traffic.

Those toys (SRT-4's) are quick you will need some M//Power for kill. There was one heavily modified, it has a full body kit, custom rims and custom exhaust with whole bunch of other blings and loud Pssssss that wanted to play. I was on 5th at around 70mph then down shifted to 4th and pulled up to about 100+ he never caught up until and let off because of traffic.


some of those toys come with an "M" package of their own...the Mopar Stage 3R

you've just been fortunate enough not to run across one yet...losing to one of these can really hurt egos as they will embarrass most anything on a roll.

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player.aspx?fileid=1F8FF511-FD62-4D94-ADEF-E6A5A48BE318&kw=34&p=6

some of those toys come with an "M" package of their own...the Mopar Stage 3R

you've just been fortunate enough not to run across one yet...losing to one of these can really hurt egos as they will embarrass most anything on a roll.

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player.aspx?fileid=1F8FF511-FD62-4D94-ADEF-E6A5A48BE318&kw=34&p=6
well I ran into a stage 2 on the street, and I wasn't embarrassed or had my ego hurt. Oh by all means, I lost, but I have to say, I knew it was going to happen.

so the neon didn't stop and slams into some other cars?
maybe he need to end himself for losing...

well I ran into a stage 2 on the street, and I wasn't embarrassed or had my ego hurt. Oh by all means, I lost, but I have to say, I knew it was going to happen.

stage 2 is simply bigger injectors and different PCM (ecu)

stage 3 is a bigger turbo and a few other fuel supporting mods, big difference between the two.
you won't get hurt losing by a car or two...losing by 50 car lenghts will make a difference in your life though

this supercharged M3 found his ego a few... 15-20 cars behind
http://videos.streetfire.net/Player.aspx?fileid=F572FDD9-63BC-4418-8B52-154039EACEAF&kw=13&p=4

stage 2 is simply bigger injectors and different PCM (ecu)

No it's not. In addition to injectors and a new PCM, my stage 2 kit included a new wastegate, 3.0 bar TIP Sensor, and a sexy little badge. :)

Stage 2 with toys includes all of the above PLUS an intercooler sprayer and a boost controller with a 100 octane setting.

I know stage 3 is pretty nuts, but stage 2 is no slouch. I put buslengths on my buddy's stock SRT-4 from 45mph to 120mph.

No it's not. In addition to injectors and a new PCM, my stage 2 kit included a new wastegate, 3.0 bar TIP Sensor, and a sexy little badge. :)

Stage 2 with toys includes all of the above PLUS an intercooler sprayer and a boost controller with a 100 octane setting.

I know stage 3 is pretty nuts, but stage 2 is no slouch. I put buslengths on my buddy's stock SRT-4 from 45mph to 120mph.

that's if you buy it "with the toys" option.
stage 2 can be bought without all those extras (sprayer,dial-a-boost,etc)
i myself had the stage 2, it ain't no slouch, agreed, i was just trying to point out that losing to a stage 2 car doesn't hurt as much as losing to a stage 3 car ;)

i'm only trying to spread real information to those who speculate as to the power output or track capabilities of a "modified" srt4.

i'm only trying to spread real information to those who speculate as to the power output or track capabilities of a "modified" srt4.
Don't worry...we've got a couple people in here that are either former or current SRT-4 owners so we try to keep the information about that car in check. I'm still waiting to hear how the SRT-4 ACR version is doing in autoX. I saw a red one on the road last Sunday (thought they only came in white but I guess not) and I really liked how it sat compared to the standard sartee4. It had smaller diameter rims, but it sat lower and wasn't raked like my '04 was when I got it. It looked more aggressive. I'm curious to hear how they handle. I'm guessing they do pretty well from the magazine numbers I've read, but I haven't heard a first hand account yet.

I raced one of these a week or two ago. 1st gear we were pretty close, but after that I couldn't touch him. Same result on the highway up to about 110. I went for a ride with him the other day, which I regretted because he was completely wreckless (and I'm not easily scared). I was impressed by the grip of the Geforce T/A's that came on it. He could definately keep traction at higher speeds through the twisties than my 325. When we got back, I told him he was crazy and he was gonna wreck his car. He was like no way, I've never wrecked a car. Guess what he did 2 days later..........totaled it going 140 through traffic racing some crotch rockets when someone cut in front of him :nono :nono :lol luckily nobody was hurt.

I raced one of these a week or two ago. 1st gear we were pretty close, but after that I couldn't touch him. Same result on the highway up to about 110. I went for a ride with him the other day, which I regretted because he was completely wreckless (and I'm not easily scared). I was impressed by the grip of the Geforce T/A's that came on it. He could definately keep traction at higher speeds through the twisties than my 325. When we got back, I told him he was crazy and he was gonna wreck his car. He was like no way, I've never wrecked a car. Guess what he did 2 days later..........totaled it going 140 through traffic racing some crotch rockets when someone cut in front of him :nono :nono :lol luckily nobody was hurt.
What an idiot. Lucky nobody was hurt. The 325, or any 3 series for that matter, are great handling cars. If Dodge had made this car when I bought my old SRT-4 in the fall of '03, I would have gladly dropped down the extra cash for that level of handling.

that's if you buy it "with the toys" option.
stage 2 can be bought without all those extras (sprayer,dial-a-boost,etc)
i myself had the stage 2, it ain't no slouch, agreed, i was just trying to point out that losing to a stage 2 car doesn't hurt as much as losing to a stage 3 car ;)

i'm only trying to spread real information to those who speculate as to the power output or track capabilities of a "modified" srt4.
losing doesn't hurt my ego. no matter the distance, I'm not that egotistic about some street racing, it is just something fun to do.

Also the Stg 2's are quicker than stock. But Steiner, what did Gargoile have? He had the 2nd Stg 2 package, but he got with toys correct?

Also the Stg 2's are quicker than stock. But Steiner, what did Gargoile have? He had the 2nd Stg 2 package, but he got with toys correct?
I can't remember whether he got his S2 kit with toys or without. I remember he was like the 2nd or 3rd person to order stage 2 but I'm drawing a blank on the configuration.

Don't worry...we've got a couple people in here that are either former or current SRT-4 owners so we try to keep the information about that car in check. I'm still waiting to hear how the SRT-4 ACR version is doing in autoX. I saw a red one on the road last Sunday (thought they only came in white but I guess not) and I really liked how it sat compared to the standard sartee4. It had smaller diameter rims, but it sat lower and wasn't raked like my '04 was when I got it. It looked more aggressive. I'm curious to hear how they handle. I'm guessing they do pretty well from the magazine numbers I've read, but I haven't heard a first hand account yet.

you don't need the ACR package bro...

just get yourself some IPP alum. coilovers, Hotchkis hollow sways, front/rear strut braces and some OZ Superleggera 17x8" wheels and you'll run circles around the ACR srt.

I can't remember whether he got his S2 kit with toys or without. I remember he was like the 2nd or 3rd person to order stage 2 but I'm drawing a blank on the configuration.
he was the 2nd person with stage 2. But I coudln't remember his set up either. Well hell, I'll look up the thread when he came in, and find out I guess. :stickoutt

edit: he had with toys.
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=376002
Post #30, he tells alot of stuff.

I've beat all SRT-4's that i've raced. People driving srt-4's are always down to race.

If the SRT4 lost, it was because of the driver, not the car. From a roll,I got walked on by every STOCK SRT4 I raced when I was NA and modified(M50 manifold, software, AA track pipe, evosport pullies, dinan intake). These cars are putting down 215-220whp stock with around 240wtq, much more than a 328 puts down. They also weigh a few hundred pounds less than most E36's. The only way I could beat them was to race from a stop where I had better traction. Even then they were a handful.

I beat a srt-4 when i had bald tires. And a G35 coupe.

srt4s are weak. good kill man. I love it when they try and mess with me. theyre seeing my license plates pretty quick

you don't need the ACR package bro...

just get yourself some IPP alum. coilovers, Hotchkis hollow sways, front/rear strut braces and some OZ Superleggera 17x8" wheels and you'll run circles around the ACR srt.
If it was cost effective I would have done it rather than selling my SRT-4 and buying an Evo. It was gonna cost between almost $3k in parts...Mopar S2 coilovers, sway bars, rims, and tires...to get where I wanted. Even then I was always gonna have a problem with traction. With stage 2 and 3" exhaust I could roast the tires in 2nd gear...much less 1st gear.

srt4s are weak. good kill man. I love it when they try and mess with me. theyre seeing my license plates pretty quick
Welcome to BFC. Now back up your comments with some proof...pics, dyno sheet, mods list, etc. You just don't come on here, make a ridiculous statement like "srt4s are weak" and ride off into the sunset. Let's see some numbers on that POS Honda or STFU.

srt4s are weak. good kill man. I love it when they try and mess with me. theyre seeing my license plates pretty quick

Mods? Unless you're deep into the 11's there are more than enough SRT-4's around the country that would give you problems.

Just installed the Injen intake, downpipe, track-pipe and catback on my friend's 05 SRT-4 ACR. We used my friend's 95 M3(chipped, intake, catback) as a benchmark as he runs pretty much dead even with stock Evo8's. When the SRT-4 was stock the M3 would SLOWLY start creeping away but not until ~80mph. With just the intake it was total opposite, the SRT-4 was SLOWLY, and I mean SLOWLY, pulling away. With the full exhaust, it wasn't even fair, a full carlength by the time we'd upshift to 3rd gear, multiple(2-3) car lengths by the end of 4th. All test runs were with both cars on full tanks of gas and one extra passenger(150lbs) in the Neon. Still running factory boost of ~13psi. Will get a manual TurboXS boost controller and try 15psi in a few days.

Mods? Unless you're deep into the 11's there are more than enough SRT-4's around the country that would give you problems.
SRT-4'S ARE THE GHEY.

SRT-4'S ARE THE GHEY.

What the hell are all these juveniles doing driving such a distinguished brand as BMW?

With a name like "Realhotguy", I bet "deep thinker", and "smart" aren't really words to describe you, huh?

Welcome to BFC. Now back up your comments with some proof...pics, dyno sheet, mods list, etc. You just don't come on here, make a ridiculous statement like "srt4s are weak" and ride off into the sunset. Let's see some numbers on that POS Honda or STFU.

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With a name like "Realhotguy", I bet "deep thinker", and "smart" aren't really words to describe you, huh?

:rofl

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kiley pretty much quoted what i wanted to. :D

With a name like "Realhotguy", I bet "deep thinker", and "smart" aren't really words to describe you, huh?

hahahahaahahaha :lol

With a name like "Realhotguy", I bet "deep thinker", and "smart" aren't really words to describe you, huh?

That second comma is uncalled for.

That second comma is uncalled for.

agreed...never use a comma before AND :nono

back on topic...

let's get something straight:

i only speak for MY srt, most srt's you'll see will have a cherry that just got his license behind the wheel, in fact i see many srt's running in the mid to high 14's, something that i can't stomach knowing that you could eat a slice of pizza while going down the track and still turn a better time than that...

however, those of us who can drive and have had our license for more than a year will drive these cars the way they should be driven, a stock srt "should" run a high 13 sec 1/4 mile.

My friend is running consistent 13.8's with an occasional 13.7 on a 100% stock 03 srt.
I ran a best of 13.88 with mine when i had just 300 miles on it...what i'm trying to say here is that they're very capable cars IN THE RIGHT HANDS.
Mine has a ton of things in it, i don't even race M3's anymore because it's always the same outcome (weather they're supercharged or not)

I don't doubt any of you guys who run into these kids and spank them, weather it's with a bmw or a Honda...well, maybe not a Honda, I mean...you can be the worst driver in the world and still beat a honda ;) in an srt.

Honestly, i don't see the attraction all these kids have for Civics, they're slow, they're ugly and they're...slow.
when you can buy a much much faster car for similar or less money, why go for a toilet like the Civic? I'll never understand...
When I was young, we use to go for the 5.0 liter Mustangs, coupe's which were lighter, they were already fast and they took to mods real well (kind of like the srt), we never opted for the slow VW GTi or something gay like that.

But...whatever, i also don't understand the kids sporting those Beetle's era haircuts, so i guess i'm gettin old :cool

Moral of the story is...don't smoke pot with your coffee in the morning, cause you'll rant about 10 different things like i just did. :eyecrazy

This one has run it's course...