I stopped racing this kid in a scion Tc because he started cutting people off to get ahead of me, so I let him go. I'm not going to behave like an idiot for the sake of a "kill", since this literally could kill someone. And he seemed to need to want to prove his manhood was bigger than mine... :lol
But, I was surprised at how quick his car was. I couldn't help but think his car had been supercharged or something. I had to actually put some gas down in my 328i to keep up with him. Only mods I have are ECIS intake and suspension mods. But, while he was ahead, I was definitely able to stay on him with more power to go. Still, I was surprised this thing had power... UGLy little thing.

yeah no reason to drive like an idiot... is that the econobox scion?

not the econobox, this is the coupe. ( right? )

Yeah its the coupe and supposed to be the sporty model of the scions. You know you can get mods from the factory when brought new. So he probably had the CAI, exhaust, suspension, etc...

He can get a supercharger from the factory too.

uhh TCs are slow as civic's... I've destroyed quite a few on the freeway. He must have had something else under the hood...

hahah scion

I laugh when I see a moded scion they are so slow and the commercials make it look like it is a sports car with lots of power when in realty it has next to nothing I find it just so funny.
Then I hate it when people spend $$$$ to get power and performance out of one of theses things and then stupid people go and see it and all of a sudden its like there stock pos has the same performance :mad damn stupid people

ya that car must of be moded you should be able to just destroy one of these things stock. nice kill

my friend has one and thought he could keep up with my M3 since it's the "old" one. Let's just say he knows about M Power now ;) it has a nice interior though for the price aha

my friend has one and thought he could keep up with my M3 since it's the "old" one. Let's just say he knows about M Power now ;) it has a nice interior though for the price aha

lmao i witnessed

bone stock they have 160bhp.

Scion... :rolleyes

the headlights of the scion Tc remind of the 7 series headlights..ioNo if it's just me, but i always think of it when i see it. :confused anybody else notice?

I know someone with a Tc. He's always talking trash about how he can take my 328i auto. I think I can take him, but not 100% sure due to my slushbox :(

160hp/163 lbs-ft@4k rpm from a 2.4L VVTi DOHC 4 banger in a 2905 lbs car, bone stock. I think that the stock e30 325is folks have something to worry about...

An e36 M50 (or above) powered car with a manual should have nothing to worry about though, in a straight power contest.

All that TRD lists on the site though for the tC is an exhaust, suspension, clutch and short shifter. There is NO supercharger listed on the website to option in when buying. I know that there ARE TRD blowers available for the xA and xB, but I am unaware of one FROM TRD for the 2.4L motor in the tC. I think he was just pushing his car as hard as he could...but wasn't in the same class.

yeah I'm not sure if they have blowers for them out now. i know they have project cars with big turbos and crap. But the cars are garabge in my opinion. You can make them look spiffy by getting CF interior and all sorts of k3wl things, but I'll pass on that.

bone stock they have 160bhp.

Scion... :rolleyes
that's 160 crank hp. They're very sluggish. Test drove a "modded" one from the toyota dealership - it had chip + exhaust + more neons than a christmas tree does + bigger rims and it definately felt slow. Plus they're very heavy for their size

Here's a true story that happend to me, put yourself in my shoes and tell me how to react to it...
I've been going out with this girl who has a Scion something (Nothing against it). She knows I am a car fanatic, and cars are like my hobby (just so everbody knows, we have a Thunderbird, a 3000GT, 318i, and previously sold a 535i). Last week we were talking and I mentioned that i was going to sell my 318i already to get a different car (but staying on bmw, which I guess she doesnt know). out of know where.......she suggests " why dont you buy a Scion"...... I was like.... :confused . I wanted to tell her..."Screw you!!!", but I was able to get hold of myself. I havent spoken to her since. How would you react? :shifty

Rjeff

Here's a true story that happend to me, put yourself in my shoes and tell me how to react to it...
I've been going out with this girl who has a Scion something (Nothing against it). She knows I am a car fanatic, and cars are like my hobby (just so everbody knows, we have a Thunderbird, a 3000GT, 318i, and previously sold a 535i). Last week we were talking and I mentioned that i was going to sell my 318i already to get a different car (but staying on bmw, which I guess she doesnt know). out of know where.......she suggests " why dont you buy a Scion"...... I was like.... :confused . I wanted to tell her..."Screw you!!!", but I was able to get hold of myself. I havent spoken to her since. How would you react? :shifty

Rjeff
Ummm......seems somebody is a bit TOO much into cars. I would've laughed at her, and said, scions are garbage in my eyes. But I woudln't stop talking to a girl just because she thinks her scion is "cute" (you didn't say it, but I know she thinks that way). :confused :confused :confused

Ummm......seems somebody is a bit TOO much into cars. I would've laughed at her, and said, scions are garbage in my eyes. But I woudln't stop talking to a girl just because she thinks her scion is "cute" (you didn't say it, but I know she thinks that way). :confused :confused :confused

:D yeah, you're right... lol. In fairness, I guess she hasnt driven a bmw before so she doesnt know tha feeling " once you have driven a bmw, you dont go back" or something like that. Maybe I was suprised wth her suggestion coz i was thinking of an upgrade, and somehow i felt she was suggesting a downgrade, you know what i mean.
Anyway, it was just a funny / confusing story I wanted to share.
hmmm, maybe I should get a scion.... lol :biglaughb
RJeff

I think he was just pushing his car as hard as he could...but wasn't in the same class.

I agree, he must have been pushing pretty hard, which I definitely was not. I would have liked to have done a standing side by side start/drag just out of curiosity. I gather the Scion has 0-60 of 7.1 or so, and 328i stock has 6.4.

ANyway, just posted this because I thought these cars were supposed to be complete dogs with "fancy" styling. But, this Tc is not bad for the money it seems, if you like FWD and the kinda cheesy look.

the headlights of the scion Tc remind of the 7 series headlights..ioNo if it's just me, but i always think of it when i see it. :confused anybody else notice? My sister thinks the same thing. She wants one cause she can't afford the 7.

It's a pretty inexpensive car so what do you expect. I'd take a used bimmer over a new scion

the headlights look like a mix of new 5 and new 7 headlights put together...i dont like how alot of car companies copy looks, if you look at the Kia Amanti its basically a mix of the older MB E320 and Jaguar S type...

Here's a true story that happend to me, put yourself in my shoes and tell me how to react to it...
I've been going out with this girl who has a Scion something (Nothing against it). She knows I am a car fanatic, and cars are like my hobby (just so everbody knows, we have a Thunderbird, a 3000GT, 318i, and previously sold a 535i). Last week we were talking and I mentioned that i was going to sell my 318i already to get a different car (but staying on bmw, which I guess she doesnt know). out of know where.......she suggests " why dont you buy a Scion"...... I was like.... :confused . I wanted to tell her..."Screw you!!!", but I was able to get hold of myself. I havent spoken to her since. How would you react? :shifty

Rjeff

Holy obsessive insanity.

Who cares what someone else chooses to drive. That's what makes your ride more meaningful to you - it's your choice, and not the typical choice of the masses.
Others can love their car, whatever it may be. That's what enthusiasts are all about - a shared love for automobiles. Usually, most true enthusiasts I know can appreciate another's enthusiasm, even if it is for a different car.

Simple-minded purists are the types that actually hate brands other than theirs, actually believe their brand is the absolute best regardless of reality, and go as far as to hate the people the drive other brands. Same types that will key and vandalize other marques.
It's nuts!

Call your woman back man. Enjoy your car. These things can coexist.

Scion's are pretty interesting to me.
The Tc seems like a good fit for a new, young driver.
Good entry price for a good quality car.
Very reliable, economical, decent little car.
Not to my taste, but I'd consider it for my daughter.

Holy obsessive insanity.

Who cares what someone else chooses to drive. That's what makes your ride more meaningful to you - it's your choice, and not the typical choice of the masses.
Others can love their car, whatever it may be. That's what enthusiasts are all about - a shared love for automobiles. Usually, most true enthusiasts I know can appreciate another's enthusiasm, even if it is for a different car.

Simple-minded purists are the types that actually hate brands other than theirs, actually believe their brand is the absolute best regardless of reality, and go as far as to hate the people the drive other brands. Same types that will key and vandalize other marques.
It's nuts!

Call your woman back man. Enjoy your car. These things can coexist.

Hey, i did say I'm sorry, I know i overreacted. :D . She's not really my girl, just someone I recently started going out with. Also, I think what I was reacting to, and I apologize for not stressing more on, is that when she suggested that I buy a scion, she was implying that her scion is a lot better than a bmw. would you agree on that ? :alright
... and yes we're going out this sat... :D

Hey, i did say I'm sorry, I know i overreacted. :D . She's not really my girl, just someone I recently started going out with. Also, I think what I was reacting to, and I apologize for not stressing more on, is that when she suggested that I buy a scion, she was implying that her scion is a lot better than a bmw. would you agree on that ? :alright
... and yes we're going out this sat... :D

Yeah, I'd tell her she's nuts and then make her pay for her insolence with my staff :D Always keep the upper hand and let her know that you're an opportunity she shouldn't pass up :D

I'm lucky my woman prefers nice cars. She likes bmw, mercedes, some audis, and most of all porcshes. Ah, she learns well. :D

Holy obsessive insanity.

Who cares what someone else chooses to drive. That's what makes your ride more meaningful to you - it's your choice, and not the typical choice of the masses.
Others can love their car, whatever it may be. That's what enthusiasts are all about - a shared love for automobiles. Usually, most true enthusiasts I know can appreciate another's enthusiasm, even if it is for a different car.

Simple-minded purists are the types that actually hate brands other than theirs, actually believe their brand is the absolute best regardless of reality, and go as far as to hate the people the drive other brands. Same types that will key and vandalize other marques.
It's nuts!

Call your woman back man. Enjoy your car. These things can coexist.

Hi,
I just wanted to add. I have nothing against other car brands. please don't take it the wrong way. I appreciate how other cars try to have their own distinguishing looks and own identities. How each and strive to be different, and the more variety, the more choices we all have to cater to our own needs... But to compare a bmw to a scion.. well you know :D

Hey, i did say I'm sorry, I know i overreacted. :D . She's not really my girl, just someone I recently started going out with. Also, I think what I was reacting to, and I apologize for not stressing more on, is that when she suggested that I buy a scion, she was implying that her scion is a lot better than a bmw. would you agree on that ? :alright
... and yes we're going out this sat... :D

I play a game with my girl asking if she'll drive a car or not. This all started when I asked her what she liked; "If it has four wheels and drives. Like your car." I gave her a :confused . I had a 00' Jetta, a 04' Harley Truck and now a 00' M roadster. I think she's missing the point, b/c she says she wants a JEEP or a civic.

Not to be big-headed, but it really kills dates when she says things of the sort.

i destroyed one starting freeway ramp to 110.

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0411scc_scion/

"Modded" managed a 15.7 1/4 and 7.8 0-16. It's a turd. My 98 Ford ZX2 went from 0-60 in mid 7s and had less HP stock to begin with but weighed considerably less at 2500lbs. Too much weight for an underpowered car to even come close to competing with some higher end cars. Of course there is the old boost facter :)

she was implying that her scion is a lot better than a bmw. would you agree on that ?In some ways.....it is. Reliability, fuel economy and electronics come to mind. Especially with any BMW that is newer than an E34.

The old school Bimmers were overengineered. That's why they last so long. :alright

But, I was surprised at how quick his car was. I couldn't help but think his car had been supercharged or something. I had to actually put some gas down in my 328i to keep up with him. Only mods I have are ECIS intake and suspension mods. But, while he was ahead, I was definitely able to stay on him with more power to go. Still, I was surprised this thing had power... UGLy little thing.

Of course you had to put some power down. If he was at WOT you still need to be in 80-90% of ur power to keep up?

Personally I think the tC looks great for what it is. For $15-16k you are looking at the following cars: Civic, Corolla, Mazda3, Sentra. ALL are ugly POS's. You can't even get a Civic EX for as cheap as this Scion. And a Civic EX has 140hp crank.

So for what it is, I think the tC is an awesome car. I personally think it looks great with xenon's and the sunroof. It definitely looks better than the other teeny bopper entry level cars. I'd take one anyday over those other cars.

I don't mind the lines on the Scion TC. Although I believe the car's name is false advertising. Why the hell would Scion call the car a "TC" even though it doesn't have a turbocharger? Lame.

tC is for touring I think. Come on, ALL their names are weak.... xA xB tC bD mE

I though I was in the bimmerforum not the lets criticize scion forum :confused were not gods you know its just a bimmer

ummm guys they are not monsters,this was not built to be a monster car, just a car that looks nice for young people, very reliable,nice sound, suspension, great interior,decent power, rims, and sporty look. I really dont like them much but for the price they are one of the best bang for the buck in the 16 and down price range, and if someone likes the car and enjoys it why criticize them.

I though I was in the bimmerforum not the lets criticize scion forum :confused were not gods you know its just a bimmer

Is that like a trademark? You say generally the same thing alot i think. Or I have at least been hearing similar lines a bunch lately.

Sure the tC's are a good bang for buck for teeny boppers; decent looking, has lotsa cool options that make it seem "customized". But I think they are still garbage. They are scions, they are slow, they are geared towards teens who seem to be into ricer styling. So............. I don't like them.

well, if i had to choose a car for $15-16K it wouldn't be scion Yc or crap like that, i would rather get a used car, with better perfomance, style...like a Volvo C70, BMW 3 series, M3, Audi A4....there're lotsa choises. i think buying a brand new car, just to be proud that you bought them BRAND NEW is way too much, easier get a certified warrantied car, that is 2-3 years old.
I think if you want gas savier, get a hybird, like echo or prius, and live your cheap life trying to proove that hybirds can go over 65mph, with 1 speed automatic transmissions.

the tc is a nice little car, but it is not to fast. i used to own a 93 318is manual and i raced a tc and got him by about 2 cls..... and my car was slow! of course that tc coulda been bone stock as well. and to all the 318 owners..... your cars are fantastic and i really enjoyed mine when i had it.

Umm, having recently graduated from highschool, some parents get their kids cars that are cheap new so that they can have the warranty. I was in a dead lock between a 4banger accord or a jetta JLI (the vw dealership near my house didnt carry the GTI, so I didnt even know it existed at the time), and we found my bimmer on a whim for about a fourth of the cost of a new car (that was the justification for getting the car without a warranty, we could buy it twice over and still be ahead five grand). If we hadn't and that tC was around, I would have jumped all over it with a smile. They could slap another 2-3k onto the price tag and still sell it by the droves.

Nothing wrong a scion. More reliable than a bmw and better gas milage == good transportation. At $12500 I'm considering getting one since I drive alot. With 38 mpg what I save in gas money a month (vs the M3) would be enough to cover the car payment.

Geez, you guys talk about the scion pretty lowly, like you guys are cruising around in Gold plates Enzo's or something. The scion isnt supposed to be a hardcore sport compact beast. Its a "sporty" econo car.

Take it easy guys.

I watched scions run 17s and 18s in the 1/4 mile last night!

testing

Hello Everyone....well I was looking on the internet and came across your website.....Real quick Iam 25 I work for coca cola I have a family and Iam a true racer from tampa.....I have been racing since I was 7 years of age I personally own an 85 7even....Fully built you name it I have it I run only 12.2 now 11.1 with spray......

what happen to the rest of my post it is not all there

Hello Everyone....well I was looking on the internet and came across your website.....Real quick Iam 25 I work for coca cola I have a family and Iam a true racer from tampa.....I have been racing since I was 7 years of age I personally own an 85 7even....Fully built you name it I have it I run only 12.2 now 11.1 with spray......Well I also know some people at baybimmers iam also in a few videos at streetracers the videos you see on payper view and mtv from tampa florida....Another words i have been around the block and Iam a grown man not a child and I respect everyone so Iam writing all this in pure fun.....I enjoy and apriciate all makes and models Iam a true car lover guess you can say....So with that all said......YOU ALL SUCK......hehehe jk.....Iam currently helping my best friend with his Ride a 2005 TC......damn I cant get the pics to load so if I can email someone the pics so you can post it for me so everyone can see I would be gratefull....Anyways this car does have a SC from TRD avail.....also if you think they are slow tech every car is slow unless you buy exotic in my eyes every car can be made fast plain and simple if a pinto can beat a lamborghini seen with my own two eyes anything is possible we all know that.....well we currently have the car lowered with HR springs, shift knob,racing peddels,graphics,black falken torque 5 rims,
thats it for now this friday and yes Iam sure you hear this alot ohhh Iam getting this Iam getting that....but it is from Racing Zone in Tampa if anyone wants to spend a dollar and call tampa racing zone....this friday at 10am we are installing a full greddy evo2 exhaust with an injen intake system.....will have pics on saturday for that...next will be a chip, lighting kit inside and out,...currently looking for carbon fiber reverse hood....most of the parts are availble through the factory atleast here it is with all our hookups....the only thing outside we bought was teh exhaust and intake....trd exhaust is crap compared to Greddy and they do not have an intake yet....If you want to see a 12 sec TC check out scoinspeedcom they are in miami and iam cuurrently working with them to get the turbo kit installed for us at a better price still need to do a little bit more butt kissing so for now its just a dream will post when it becomes reality.....they used to have the kit for 2000 now they want 4000 so that is what Iam working with right now....Anyways so that scion may had the SC from TRD but probley not since you can hear a SC espicially the TRD one it sounds nice it is not a quit one you will have no dought if it had one....Hey you got to admit a 2.4c lit with only 160 to 180 on some yeah there is plenty of ponies waiting to come out ....cant wait to dyno it when finished this weekdn....will keep all you Bimmer Lovers posted.....When ever you all come to tampa hit me up 813-431-1950 maybe you can be on a video and get spanked by the mighty 7even.......HEHEHEHE
sorry so long just board at work and love talking about rides.....if anyone can help me out with the pics will be gratefull thanks all happy posting

sorry all for all the post....Could not figure why it would not post my novel lol....well figured it out...Due to I had urls on there well there is my post happy reading looking forward to talking to everyone here

:withstupi

Seriously though, grammar is your friend.

Wow, divide that up into paragraphs and maybe less elipces.

I'll summarize that long 7even post:

He owns a 1985 7 series that runs 11.1 w/ spray, 12.2 w/o. He has a friend w/ a scion TC that he has or is planning to do everything to (turbocharge, exhaust, chip, intake, suspension, ect...). He'll let us know when he's finished. His # is 813-431-1950 and he lives in Tampa if you want to race him.

That's all the important stuff.

who really has time for grammer.....

this is not collage this is internet posting ....

anyways back to reality got nothing else better to do then to question grammer after all that I said that is all you had to say is my grammer ....LOL....

anyways Iam going to post some pics of my Blue pits and the ride after it is finished on friday to answer some questions....TC is touring Coupe of course like most cars like gt tc gtr srt they all have the same meaning usually for someone to think it means Turbo Charged thats funny to me......

anyways Iam not a scion lover I just like my boys car and since I help everyone in town with there car why not my best friend ...dont get me wrong if I had a choice of an M5 or a Tc of course what sane person would pick the Tc over an M5....

but like I read yes it is good for the money got to admit....My boy got his for 17,500 out the door thats including financing the whole nine yards you cant beat that ....spend about 5 grand more and you got a 12 second car that gets over 20 miles to the gallon.....atleast I can do it anyways....

wish I can say the same about my 7even it gets 9 to the gallon

joeuser ....LMAO....yeah I do tend to type alot....I work for coke cola call center its 937pm so no calls in que so I tend to type to much....

but to correct you I own a 7even that is Rx-7 ......didnt know they had a 7 seris bmw in teh early 80's learn something everyday.....

yo if anyone wants to see my car run it is at streetracers dot and teh c word....know what I mean....we have about 9 dvd's nation wide Iam the blue 7even beating every honda that comes next to me.....so far anyways I pick and choose why break up a good record 22-4 ....lost to an M3 turbo...3000gt turbo....WRX STI....an a S2000

well it was fun chating will come back tomorrow...if someone can let me know how to post pics I would like to show you all teh Tc and my 7even espicially since we have alot of befor and after pics.....also my pits are in teh pics and I love to show off my blue pits I also breed them well my girl does if anyone interested all UKC registered......LOL...now iam turing this to a dog breeding page....LOL.....well reading the post you all look like respectful people ...looking forward to getting teh exhuast and intake friday to show that off to you guys after it is installed.....as we grow with the Tc so will this page....just to prove Tc's can be fast also like any other car really ....Peace Iam out

you can eitehr attach through the server. Below the message box, and below "Submit Mesage" look for a "Manage Attachments" button. Or you can get an account with like photobucket.com it is a free image hosting site.

ALso, I thought you were talking about a 7 series bmw. Not an RX-7. So you have a FB? I'd rather see pics of the 7 than the tC. :)

This is a "7even", stop confusing those who who know and appreciate real cars...

http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring/news_reports/caterham-seven-csr.htm

:drink1

This is a "7even", stop confusing those who who know and appreciate real cars...

http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring/news_reports/caterham-seven-csr.htm

:drink1
that thing looks cool as hell. :thumbup:

aforange......

we have a buggy that runs 10.4 consistant.....has an Rx-7 13b motor from Mazsport in Clearwater......I will get some pics of it and post it here.....looks alot like what you just showed us.....

as for my 7even I have pics of it....yes Iam aware of photobucket I used it at one time...that means I have to load it from my own computer....I only use my computer at work and at my boys house...so it will be hard to get them put on....

geterdone......

I will get my boy to take pics of the 7even and the Tc together this weekend after the install....

found out today that the intake is still not in but we are still installing the Greddy system this friday,next week we will be installing the intake.....

Pics soon to come

damn,a buggy with a 13b? nice!!

There is a rotary specialist in clearwater? Damn I wish I knew that back in teh day. I may have gotten an FD if I knew that. :)

If you need, you can email me the pics (chazzy1864@yahoo.com). I'll upload them for ya.

I have a friend who has a manual tC for his daily driver and I've driven it.

I must say, the car is great for the price.

He can get a supercharger from the factory too.
i didnt think the superchargers are out yet... anyways my friend has one and it was a VERY easy kill in my e34 540.

I beat a TC on the highway in my Jeep Grand Cherokee

... :lol :lol :lol

geterdone.....

hey man I emailed you some pics will get some better ones when my friend comes back tomorrow from Orlando....the exhaust is on now...the Intake has not come in yet should be sometime this coming week...so when installed will post pics but tomorrow will get the pics of the exhaust install....when I get pics of the buggy will post that as well....

Iam sure eveeryone would like to see a 10 sec buggie the electronics on this thing is sick when I post you will see what Iam talking about.....

For the record I would love to own an M5 one day or better yet the Mclaren when ever I win the lottery since it has that bad ass v12 bimmer powered motor....

Here are hte six pics that showed up in the email. (others were Xed out).

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/chazfrombfc/758666_10_full.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/chazfrombfc/758666_14.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/chazfrombfc/758666_15.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/chazfrombfc/ShowLetter3.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/chazfrombfc/ShowLetter2.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/chazfrombfc/ShowLetter.jpg

One is a double but slightly bigger.

here are some OT pics of 7even's full bred pit.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/chazfrombfc/dog2.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/chazfrombfc/dog3.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/chazfrombfc/dog4.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/chazfrombfc/dog5.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/chazfrombfc/dog8.jpg

wow thats a nice Blue Pit ....Ow wait a minute he is mine....HEHEHEHEHE

I will have pics of the exhaust tomorrow will post them this week after the intake comes in to get pics of poth together.....next is the lighting inside and the calipers painted.....slowly but surly....every week will have a new mod...one day when fast enough will go after some of you bimmer folks MUhahahaha