Ok i've been debating & researching on getting my m3 tuned, because it's still sitting in my garage because were still finishing the roll cage but its untuned & i'm wondering what your guyses opinions are in which tuning setup to go with, i mean i spoke with ICS performance way on east coast & they were AEM EMS, but i want at least some other pointers on tuning because i mean i'm good at tuning Honda's but see when boosting a BMW its totally different world or art your talking about.

You may get a better response in the F.I. forum.

Ok i've been debating & researching on getting my m3 tuned, because it's still sitting in my garage because were still finishing the roll cage but its untuned & i'm wondering what your guyses opinions are in which tuning setup to go with, i mean i spoke with ICS performance way on east coast & they were AEM EMS, but i want at least some other pointers on tuning because i mean i'm good at tuning Honda's but see when boosting a BMW its totally different world or art your talking about.


We use more Tec3 than AEM and Vic is in CA and could fly out to tune you up.

Ok i've been debating & researching on getting my m3 tuned, because it's still sitting in my garage because were still finishing the roll cage but its untuned & i'm wondering what your guyses opinions are in which tuning setup to go with, i mean i spoke with ICS performance way on east coast & they were AEM EMS, but i want at least some other pointers on tuning because i mean i'm good at tuning Honda's but see when boosting a BMW its totally different world or art your talking about.

Your setup sounds like it's pretty serious...there are two options as far as I can see at the moment. NickG (technique tuning) and TEC-III...one is not better than the other, it's a matter of what you're really looking for...

Ok i've been debating & researching on getting my m3 tuned, because it's still sitting in my garage because were still finishing the roll cage but its untuned & i'm wondering what your guyses opinions are in which tuning setup to go with, i mean i spoke with ICS performance way on east coast & they were AEM EMS, but i want at least some other pointers on tuning because i mean i'm good at tuning Honda's but see when boosting a BMW its totally different world or art your talking about.

If this is a street driven car try and do it with the stock ECU (if for nothing else, just the emissions aspect of it - OBD-II emissions). Since you have experience with tuning Hondas then you should have no problems datalogging and relaying information to Nick (www.techniquetuning.com). You'll definitely get the smoothest code.

If you want the flexibility to do it yourself and don't care about legal aspects (or have the benjamins) then an AEM/Tec3 will do also.

Whichever you decide, I'd consult with Nick... if he feels you're not a good candidate I'm sure he'll tell you, I don't know him to be the type of person to take on work just to make money--it's more to make enthusiasts happy about their hobby.

Good luck,

Boris

Your setup sounds like it's pretty serious...there are two options as far as I can see at the moment. NickG (technique tuning) and TEC-III...one is not better than the other, it's a matter of what you're really looking for...

I noticed Factor X Engineering, they tend to do pretty serious stuff. I know they have built twin turbo NSXs ripping high 9s in the 1/4 mile or something like that...

Good luck with the project. I beleive Factor X uses AEMs, and if you have experience with them you can try them, but I beleive for BMWs more people have had success with their Tec3s. I know that worked well for the Mercedes fans. Maybe its just German cars respond well to it.

Good Luck.

If this is a street driven car try and do it with the stock ECU (if for nothing else, just the emissions aspect of it - OBD-II emissions). Since you have experience with tuning Hondas then you should have no problems datalogging and relaying information to Nick (www.techniquetuning.com). You'll definitely get the smoothest code.

If you want the flexibility to do it yourself and don't care about legal aspects (or have the benjamins) then an AEM/Tec3 will do also.

Whichever you decide, I'd consult with Nick... if he feels you're not a good candidate I'm sure he'll tell you, I don't know him to be the type of person to take on work just to make money--it's more to make enthusiasts happy about their hobby.

Good luck,

Boris

I second this.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=316970

The definitive "Which standalone is the best?" thread. I used to think the pnp tec3 was the most attractive, but now that evosport has the pnp aem unit I am leaning in that direction. Of course it's still fairly new to the market, whereas Vic Sias' unit is well proven.

I agree with boris and jaded... stick with stock ECU programming. You should only consider going standalone *IF* you have really really good reasons for doing so.

Good luck!

Yeah i've been reading up on Tec-3, i noticed that's what you guys used on your guyses 730rwhp black e36 m3 ICS performance, by the way has ICS performance ran that 730rwhp m3 yet, i mean i saw the beast on the dyno but not on street yet? But yeah FactorXengineering does built some aweome cars, probably one of the best engine building shops on west coast from my stand point, i'm good friends with FactorX so i tend to go through them & yes the twin turbo NSX you've seen is hoping to run 9s in about a month or two & be fastest street driven NSX in country there pushing it for. Thanks for feedback guys...

We use more Tec3 than AEM and Vic is in CA and could fly out to tune you up.

Brian, could you give me some estimate prices on Tec3 or Vic, i mean i dont care if its expensive or not i got the money, i just want to compare the value & difference for right now then i'll go more in detail but i'm not rushing so..

If this is a street driven car try and do it with the stock ECU (if for nothing else, just the emissions aspect of it - OBD-II emissions). Since you have experience with tuning Hondas then you should have no problems datalogging and relaying information to Nick (www.techniquetuning.com). You'll definitely get the smoothest code.

If you want the flexibility to do it yourself and don't care about legal aspects (or have the benjamins) then an AEM/Tec3 will do also.

Whichever you decide, I'd consult with Nick... if he feels you're not a good candidate I'm sure he'll tell you, I don't know him to be the type of person to take on work just to make money--it's more to make enthusiasts happy about their hobby.

Good luck,

Boris

Well it's going to be a street car also & road race car also but yeah i'll keep in contact with him whenever i got the time, i'm just so tight on my work schedule i haven't even worked on my car for at least 2 weeks lol.

i am at the moment tunning my setup. I am running tec 3 from sias tunning, All i have to say is that vic. provides the best tec suport. vic and tec 3 all the way :buttrock

I agree, a TEC 3 will be perfect for you since it seems you like to tune your cars.

Getting a chip will only cause problems as you have to send your ECU out everytime and that person doesn't even have your car to precisely tune.

Street car or not, a TEC3 will be a blessing.

Seeing what Vic has done to my car already, I can't wait to start fiddling around with the parameters and adjust my car to my own liking. It's unbelieveable how much power you have.

In my opinion, sending your ECU isn't such a big deal. Nick tunes so well remotely (just look at the numerous people on the board that have his software.). The end result is a well tuned car you're not afraid to push. I don't think anybody can tune a FI'd BMW better then Nick can.

This is versus a Tec3 that you constantly have to adjust/re-tune. The stock DME has MORE control/options/features then a Tec3. People don't seem to realize that.

Good luck on whatever you decide to do. :)

-Jade