Hi everyone,

as I am selling those over here in Germany I thought you might be interested
as well. The mirrors are totally Plug'n'Play as you just need to remove the
OEM ones, disconnect the plug, reconnect it to the new mirror, install the
mirror itself and you are done. Takes about 20mins.

The mirrors have the following options included:

- electronic folding
- electronic adjustment
- heating
- memory
- co-driver side lowers when in reverse to show the ground

I would appreciate if someone could state the correct english terms for
this functions as those above sound horrible :confused

M-Mirror: 299 EUR (~360 USD)
Shipping (ground): 32 EUR (~39 USD)
Shipping (air): 48 EUR (~58 USD)

Here are some product pics and some pics of the mirrors installed.

http://www.bimmershop.de/products/m_mirror_1.jpg

http://www.bimmershop.de/products/m_mirror_2.jpg

http://www.bimmershop.de/products/m_mirror_3.jpg

http://www.bimmershop.de/products/m_mirror_red_2.jpg

http://www.bimmershop.de/products/m_mirror_red_5.jpg

I have 2 sets in stock at the moment.

If anyone is interested feel free to contact me by E-Mail at dominik@alpinab12.de.

Thanks
Dominik

How do they electronically fold? You must have have an extra switch to get them to electronically fold, no? :conf :dunno

John

How do they electronically fold? You must have have an extra switch to get them to electronically fold, no? :conf :dunno

John

they fold just like the stock ones do. i guess this was a option

they fold just like the stock ones do. i guess this was a option


Mine don't fold electronically.

John

do u have any tail lights for sale?

The options listed above do only work if your car already has them of course.

I have crystalclear taillights for sale at 155 EUR (~189 USD) but you should
buy those in the US as shipping will kill the price for sure.

Dominik

The options listed above do only work if your car already has them of course.

I have crystalclear taillights for sale at 155 EUR (~189 USD) but you should
buy those in the US as shipping will kill the price for sure.

Dominik

So i guess the folding option wouldn't work on my E38 then. :( Too bad. Could i get it to work? I own a 1997 IL and have all those otpions except the folding option.

John

are they made by hella or bosch?

The mirrors come with, what is shown in the pics? - the base, housing, glass and correct wiring for the E38? Is that correct?

is the price you listed for a single mirror or for a pair?

aaron

@BasSPoweR

No - they are imported from asia but the quality is very good. Only satisfied
customers till now. FYI the OEM ones are neither produced by Bosch or Hella,
they are made by ULO for BMW.

@ny-sevens

Yes, the mirrors come with everything what is needed for them to fit and
work properly. You just need to have them painted and the installation is
just plug'n'play. If required replacement mirrors glasses are available as well.

@immaculate

They price is for a pair of course.

Regards
Dominik

they fold just like the stock ones do. i guess this was a option
it was an option to have electronically folding mirrors? i never heard of that, but it would be hot tho

they said it cost like 2g's to get his mirrors to fold... think i saw it on E38.org, but i'm not sure...

i would like the folding option too, benz has them, not sure why bmw didnt put them in... i have a 2000.

It was a normal option.
Both my 97' 740i and my 96' B12 had it.

On 7er.com they developed an additional relay which makes the mirrors fold
automatically when you lock the car and unfold them in normal position when
you unlock it again. Nice gimmick.

Dominik

http://www.bimmerboard.com/forums/posts/9135

i would like the folding option too, benz has them, not sure why bmw didnt put them in... i have a 2000.

Show me one good reason why you'd actually need them in the USA.

Some Euro cars have them because of absurdly tight "catch as you can" parking situations. In the USA, you have your choice of parallel, between the lines, or hand the keys to the valet. None of which requires "yet-another-damn-thing-to-break" power folding mirrors.

- Rob

Show me one good reason why you'd actually need them in the USA.

Some Euro cars have them because of absurdly tight "catch as you can" parking situations. In the USA, you have your choice of parallel, between the lines, or hand the keys to the valet. None of which requires "yet-another-damn-thing-to-break" power folding mirrors.

- Rob

Edit: if you want them because they're cool, fine... it's your car. But as to "Why BMW didn't put them in", I'd like to think that the extra development time and expense of such a device would be put into powetrain or reliability.

- Rob

It was a normal option.
Both my 97' 740i and my 96' B12 had it.

On 7er.com they developed an additional relay which makes the mirrors fold
automatically when you lock the car and unfold them in normal position when
you unlock it again. Nice gimmick.

Dominik

of the Comfort/Convenience pkg. at least on the '01 Sport.

Dominik,

I'll take a set. I'll send an email direct so we can work out the paint and method of payment.

Thank you.
See you in a few weeks.


S

Show me one good reason why you'd actually need them in the USA.

- Rob

Because you don't want to lean your ass out the window at the drive-thru? I always fold my mirrors in so I can get right next to the window and not have to try very hard to grab my gut-buster.

I also fold them in whenever I have to park next to anybody - since I always try to park three miles away from anybody, whenever someone is within 5 feet it feels too damn close.

Because you don't want to lean your ass out the window at the drive-thru? I always fold my mirrors in so I can get right next to the window and not have to try very hard to grab my gut-buster.

I guess the truth really will set you free. :D

I also fold them in whenever I have to park next to anybody - since I always try to park three miles away from anybody, whenever someone is within 5 feet it feels too damn close.

Yes, I'd definitely want another car's door to hit my dentable door rather than my plastic mirror housing. :lol

- Rob

Yes, I'd definitely want another car's door to hit my dentable door rather than my plastic mirror housing. :lol

- Rob

Suit yourself, I merely prefer not to have someone's fat ass knocking my mirror off. ;)

I honestly do not see why the whole idea of folding the mirror up to accomodate tight parking was created. If you are parking that close to anyone how do you get in the car? I like it because it looks trick. I will be installing mine soon as well.

I honestly do not see why the whole idea of folding the mirror up to accomodate tight parking was created. If you are parking that close to anyone how do you get in the car? I like it because it looks trick. I will be installing mine soon as well.
Do you have the electronics for it or will it be a "home-grown" solution with a switch?

Do you have the electronics for it or will it be a "home-grown" solution with a switch?

Factory parts using a new door switch and passenger door module. It should be plug and play.

Factory parts using a new door switch and passenger door module. It should be plug and play.

I don't know about that. But if it works please do let us know.

John

On 7er.com they developed an additional relay which makes the mirrors fold
automatically when you lock the car and unfold them in normal position when
you unlock it again. Nice gimmick.

Dominik


Hey Dom,

Any chance you can post that info here? I think that would be a very cool trick for the shows here. :redspot

I don't know about that. But if it works please do let us know.

John


I know the E46 guys and E39 guys that dont have power folding only need the new door switch and the passenger door module to make the power folding feature work. I expect the same for the E38.

Well - tight parking next to each other is not the main reason I think but in
Europe we have lots of narrow streets so if you park your car at the side
of the street the folding option can save you from picking up your mirror in
pieces from the street as someone missmeasured the space left or the car
passing by was just too large.

In addition German parking garages in the city are a pain in the ass if you
drive a car at the size of a 7 series. I had to fold my mirrors several times
and even set forwards and backwards to get the turn to the next level ...
they are so damned tight and the walls are so near I always bless god when
I leave one without a scratch ... that is why I stay away from them if I can.

Regarding the power folding relay when you lock the car I could try to have
some of them built and ship them to you if you are interested. I do not know
exactly how much they were but if I recall correctly ~25 USD.

Dominik

I did some research and contacted the developer of the little relay. He has
none in stock and no time to build new ones at the moment but on request
he would do so in autumn.

As Justin already mentioned there are only the following parts needed to add
the power folding option to your car:

- 2 mirrors with power folding
- driver side switch unit
- passenger side door module

The mirrors are the most expensive parts so if you choose to do this it would
be cheaper to use the M-Mirrors provided by me ;) The package would sum
up to ~675 USD for parts then.

Dominik

Show me one good reason why you'd actually need them in the USA.

Some Euro cars have them because of absurdly tight "catch as you can" parking situations. In the USA, you have your choice of parallel, between the lines, or hand the keys to the valet. None of which requires "yet-another-damn-thing-to-break" power folding mirrors.

- Rob

I use mine all the time. On the street naturally as some have already mentioned to keep truck mirrors from hitting them. But mostly in parking lots. Some of the places I go in Seattle don't have large lots which allow me to park far away from other vehicles. So it's nice to fold the mirrors in to prevent people banging into them when walking between cars. I've seen it many times, and done it myself a time or so. I also fold mine in when parking in the garage to make more room to walk by. Can't always trust my friends and roomates to be careful. Not everybody has the luxury of extra space around their vehicles.

I did some research and contacted the developer of the little relay. He has
none in stock and no time to build new ones at the moment but on request
he would do so in autumn.

As Justin already mentioned there are only the following parts needed to add
the power folding option to your car:

- 2 mirrors with power folding
- driver side switch unit
- passenger side door module

The mirrors are the most expensive parts so if you choose to do this it would
be cheaper to use the M-Mirrors provided by me ;) The package would sum
up to ~675 USD for parts then.

Dominik

Allright, does anybody know the part numbers for the driver switch needed and passenger side door module?

John

To answer my own question, could these be it?

Switch unit driver side #2 in photo: P/N-61-31-6-909-903
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=GH83&mospid=47531&btnr=61_0117&hg=61&fg=35&hl=36

And Door Module, Passenger door #6 in photo: P/N-61-35-6-904-243
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=GF83&mospid=47528&btnr=61_0120&hg=61&fg=25&hl=111

John

To answer my own question, could these be it?

Switch unit driver side #2 in photo: P/N-61-31-6-909-903
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=GH83&mospid=47531&btnr=61_0117&hg=61&fg=35&hl=36

And Door Module, Passenger door #6 in photo: P/N-61-35-6-904-243
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=GF83&mospid=47528&btnr=61_0120&hg=61&fg=25&hl=111

John

John, you are correct. I posted the pics of the parts and psrt numbers on my cardomain site.

Dominik, i sent you another Email did you get it?

John

Hello John,

I did receive the email and will answer within an hour.
I have been busy all day - sorry.

Dominik

Hello John,
I did receive the email and will answer within an hour.
I have been busy all day - sorry.
Dominik

That's allright, i just want to make sure your received it since my Email has been acting up lately.

John

That's allright, i just want to make sure your received it since my Email has been acting up lately.

John
John,

let me know when you're about to order your parts...i may do this mod too. i realized this morning this would be a great idea for the garage

John,
let me know when you're about to order your parts...i may do this mod too. i realized this morning this would be a great idea for the garage

Which parts? The mirrors from Dominik? Or the parts from the dealer?

John

Which parts? The mirrors from Dominik? Or the parts from the dealer?

John
i guess the mirrors from Dominik. i can the part numbers i need from TitaniumSeeker...unless you have those handy?

i guess the mirrors from Dominik. i can the part numbers i need from TitaniumSeeker...unless you have those handy?

I ordered them from Dominik yesterday. He has another pair right now so Email him:
dominik.seyler@seyler.biz

John

I ordered them from Dominik yesterday. He has another pair right now so Email him:
dominik.seyler@seyler.biz

John
DONE...thanks!

DONE...thanks!

Here are the P/N:

61-31-6-909-903 SWITCH UNIT 159.00

61-35-6-904-243 DOOR MODULE 141.0

Crevier BMW Prices.

John

Here are the P/N:

61-31-6-909-903 SWITCH UNIT 159.00

61-35-6-904-243 DOOR MODULE 141.0

Crevier BMW Prices.

John
got' em...thanks! are you sending them to the same place TitaniumSeeker sent his to get painted?

got' em...thanks! are you sending them to the same place TitaniumSeeker sent his to get painted?
I just replied on the other thread but yes i am having them painted by Dominik that's what Duane did too. Takes about an extra week for that.

John

Regarding the power folding relay when you lock the car I could try to have
some of them built and ship them to you if you are interested. I do not know
exactly how much they were but if I recall correctly ~25 USD.
Dominik

Can you still have this done? Can you have them done by the time you ship my mirrors?

John

Hi,

I talked to the guy who built them and he currently has no time to build
some more but he will get back to me as soon as he can build some and
I will keep you posted.

Dominik

I find folding mirrors extremely useful in parking lots where people walk through spaces, alot of the time i myself knock peoples mirrors when walking around cars parked and i do not consider myself large