http://www.cosworth.com/downloads/cosworthV8_movie5_medium.mpg?PHPSESSID=0a4c7579ffa 901344b880d0dc926c5d1

here are some test times from Jerez:

1) Juan Pablo Montoya, 1min16s295 (88 laps)
2) Takuma Sato, 1min16s764 (37)
3) Felipe Massa, 1min16s835 (88)
4) Alexander Wurz, 1min16s913 (107)
5) Franck Montagny, 1min17s102 (107)
6) Ralf Schumacher, 1min17s129 (85)
7) Jenson Button, 1min17s544 (46)
8) Giancarlo Fisichella, 1min17s664 (137)
9) Ricardo Zonta, 1min18s210 (124)
10) David Coulthard, 1min18s231 (117)
11) Christian Klien, 1min18s596 (61)
12) Nick Heidfeld, 1min18s841 (72)
13) Antonio Pizzonia, 1min21s836 (22)
14) Olivier Panis, 1min23s769 (12)


Pizzonia is in a Williams with a 2006 BMW V8 and Panis is in a Toyota with a 2006 V8 as well.

Olivier Panis tested Toyota's new 2.4-litre V8 engines on Wednesday for the first time, and afterwards expressed his dismay at the lack of power.

As of 2006 Formula One will introduce 2.4-litre V8 engines, which the FIA hopes will go a long way towards reducing the speed of the cars. And according to Panis, it will.

During Wednesday's testing Ralf Schumacher, who was using the current V10 spec engine, clocked a 1:17.631, while Panis using the V8 could only manage a fastest time of 1:22.447.

"It is just so different," the Frenchman told Autosport.

"You just expect more power to come after a while. First and second (gears) are okay but after that there is no more, it is so different."

But despite the lack of pace, Toyota technical director Mike Gascoyne was satisfied with the V8 engine's first outing.

"This is first time we have run the car in a test. We've not even shaken it down, and so far it is good," he said.

"The vibration is a lot less than what we have expected. We had more vibration problems on the test bench than here and so far it is running without problem.

"We will have a V8 car in every test from now and we will have to see how the progress is."


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nice post. I'd expect those track times to drop by at least 2 seconds because 1. everyone's v8s have a long ways to go in terms of development, and 2. cosworth engines usually don't make as much power as the bmw, honda, renault, and ferrari engines.

20k rpms = :drool:

those lap times are from toyotas and bmw's, the cosie's onyl been running on the dyno as far as I know. And these aren't indicative of next years pace since these are this years cars with v8's bolted in.

HOLY CRAP!!!
20K . . . . :buttrock

Holyyy :eek:
I just don't have words :wow:

I expect a solid 21k and 800+hp from the top teams, we all know some how the cars will be faster once again! they always manage to do it!

Doesn't have the brilliant tone of a high revving V10. Oh well....

Yeah, I wish they were V10's or V12's as well... oh well

but 20k rpm's is awesomely amazing!!! :buttrock :buttrock :buttrock

Doesn't have the brilliant tone of a high revving V10. Oh well....

I agree. It won't be the same F1 without the v10s screaming. This rule, I think, justifies that Max Mosley is crazy. Why would you want to slow down the most advanced, expensive, prestigious, and technically jaw-dropping racing cars in the world? :confused

I've heard that all the testing teams have done is running this year's cars and v10 engines with 2 cylinders shut down. Kind of makes sense as sticking a new v8 in the current cars would throw off the balance of the cars or something, but I'm sure they were running actual v8s.

They need to bring back small displacement turbo engines. That'd shift away the focus from who can get those last few hundred revs out of the engine and make it more towards the engines being reliable on insane boost(which is easier to put cost caps on by limiting materials in some parts of the engines).

Why would you want to slow down the most advanced, expensive, prestigious, and technically jaw-dropping racing cars in the world? :confused

Better racing, less $$, safety, etc. I'm not saying that this will be accomplished, but those are some of the goals and reasons for slowing things down.

I've heard that all the testing teams have done is running this year's cars and v10 engines with 2 cylinders shut down. Kind of makes sense as sticking a new v8 in the current cars would throw off the balance of the cars or something, but I'm sure they were running actual v8s.

Yes, they are running actual V8's...you can't just shut down two cylinders and get any sort of meaningful data. The new V8's are totally redesigned from the current V10 motors.

V8 is better balanced, we'll be seeing higher rpm now, and some "interesting" exhuats notes:)

V8 is better balanced, we'll be seeing higher rpm now, and some "interesting" exhuats notes:)

Not sure if you are being sarcastic.. But v8's are a vibration nightmare, the lower rotational mass is the main reason they will be able to rev higher. So far the main battle the teams are facing is how to handing the higher vibration fatigue, not experienced with the current v-10’s. I cannot wait to hear them next year and think they will be intoxicating as the v-10's.

Nate, where are you getting your information from, interested to see where the new F1 v8's are being compared to v10 and saying the v10 is better balanced then the v8.

The V10 configuration is inherently imbalanced in the vertical plane and generates a rocking moment causing vibration from end to end of the engine.

The V8 F1 motors will depend on thier angle, and exact design, as I am sure they are going crazy with testing new ideas for making a v8 more efficient, and to overcome the displacement loss, make the same power as before with the v10.

Dang and I thought my bike revved high at 15.5k :eek:

The V10 configuration is inherently imbalanced in the vertical plane and generates a rocking moment causing vibration from end to end of the engine.

The V8 F1 motors will depend on thier angle, and exact design, as I am sure they are going crazy with testing new ideas for making a v8 more efficient, and to overcome the displacement loss, make the same power as before with the v10.


I completely agree, I did not make my self very clear now that I read what I wrote. The rocking moment is now gone do to the substantially shorter crank, hence allowing more revs. At the same time less moving parts. What I am trying to say is with the higher RPM+new v8 configuration they are experiencing all new forces that they have not in the past causing some head aches to say the least. I read a very in-depth article recently but do not recall if it was F1 magazine or from an online source. I should attempt to find it.