View Full Version : Help me pnder M5's..heres another one


323I Junkie
06-15-2005, 01:15 PM
I know its wierd, this is like the 3'rd M5 thread this week

AS you know, I am selling or trading in , probably sell, my 535..its within a day of running again but I just dont want it anymore..you also know I want more of a race car. Ive pondered TCD vs e28M5..and wound up with M5. After discussing it with two different turbo manufactureres, they agreed that boosintg the m5 motor would cost little more than boosintg the 535's..and that the s38b35 ould probably make as much on 7lbs of boost as the m30 would make on 12 to 14..and have superior power curves. The main cost would be ditching the ancient system and going to FAST, MS, ETC..but I can do that before I boost. INital projections show that with proper engine management, I can probably get away with about 8 pounds on the stock s38b35 ...its compression is the same as many other engines running that much. IT would also probably boost power well into the the 375 range..which should put the little e28 into 110 or higher trap speeds and provide very rewarding performance. Even without boost, it seems to be the general consensus that the e28 M5 in us form can do about 295 HP without a cat, a JC chip, and a mildly better muffler. More gains seem to be projected in the fuel economy area by converting to modern MAF or SPeed DEnsity aftermarket engine systems, as well as modern coils and irridium plugs. And in stock form, the little M5 seems to be just intoxicating, evne if its not that fast by modern terms.

so now Im looking aorund. General inteliigence in the car world says if you buying a classic, buy the lowest mileage version you can find. Even if its more...

but I found about 12 cars on autotrader...one example has 102 thousand and they are asking 12..another has 150 and they are asking 8...my question is, among many others, is the 4K more worht 48K miles less? Or is age and care the most important. From what I understand..its suspension bushings (Which is universal to old cars) and timing chain guides that you need to worry about.

heres a link to some examples

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=176732667&dealer_id=51348872&car_year=1988&search_type=both&make=BMW&transmission=&model=M5&distance=0&address=87144&make2=&advanced=y&certified=&max_mileage=&max_price=&min_price=&end_year=1990&color=&start_year=1981&drive=&isp=y&engine=&doors=&fuel=&lang=en&cardist=641

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=182780096&dealer_id=56345329&car_year=1988&search_type=both&make=BMW&transmission=&model=M5&distance=0&address=87144&make2=&advanced=y&certified=&max_mileage=&max_price=&min_price=&end_year=1990&color=&start_year=1981&drive=&isp=y&engine=&doors=&fuel=&lang=en&cardist=1165

Im not kicking tires...im actually doing this (Just not necessarily on these cars)

JAlfredPrufrock
06-15-2005, 02:22 PM
They look nice, but even though the older s38 can make more power with less boost... it will have a harder time getting the power to the ground unless you tubbed the rear.

323I Junkie
06-15-2005, 02:34 PM
Ive ehard you can only fit 235 rubber on an M5?

bimmer23
06-15-2005, 03:48 PM
I know its wierd, this is like the 3'rd M5 thread this week

AS you know, I am selling or trading in , probably sell, my 535..its within a day of running again but I just dont want it anymore..you also know I want more of a race car. Ive pondered TCD vs e28M5..and wound up with M5. After discussing it with two different turbo manufactureres, they agreed that boosintg the m5 motor would cost little more than boosintg the 535's..and that the s38b35 ould probably make as much on 7lbs of boost as the m30 would make on 12 to 14..and have superior power curves. The main cost would be ditching the ancient system and going to FAST, MS, ETC..but I can do that before I boost. INital projections show that with proper engine management, I can probably get away with about 8 pounds on the stock s38b35 ...its compression is the same as many other engines running that much. IT would also probably boost power well into the the 375 range..which should put the little e28 into 110 or higher trap speeds and provide very rewarding performance. Even without boost, it seems to be the general consensus that the e28 M5 in us form can do about 295 HP without a cat, a JC chip, and a mildly better muffler. More gains seem to be projected in the fuel economy area by converting to modern MAF or SPeed DEnsity aftermarket engine systems, as well as modern coils and irridium plugs. And in stock form, the little M5 seems to be just intoxicating, evne if its not that fast by modern terms.

so now Im looking aorund. General inteliigence in the car world says if you buying a classic, buy the lowest mileage version you can find. Even if its more...

but I found about 12 cars on autotrader...one example has 102 thousand and they are asking 12..another has 150 and they are asking 8...my question is, among many others, is the 4K more worht 48K miles less? Or is age and care the most important. From what I understand..its suspension bushings (Which is universal to old cars) and timing chain guides that you need to worry about.

heres a link to some examples

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=176732667&dealer_id=51348872&car_year=1988&search_type=both&make=BMW&transmission=&model=M5&distance=0&address=87144&make2=&advanced=y&certified=&max_mileage=&max_price=&min_price=&end_year=1990&color=&start_year=1981&drive=&isp=y&engine=&doors=&fuel=&lang=en&cardist=641

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=182780096&dealer_id=56345329&car_year=1988&search_type=both&make=BMW&transmission=&model=M5&distance=0&address=87144&make2=&advanced=y&certified=&max_mileage=&max_price=&min_price=&end_year=1990&color=&start_year=1981&drive=&isp=y&engine=&doors=&fuel=&lang=en&cardist=1165

Im not kicking tires...im actually doing this (Just not necessarily on these cars)
To me when it gets that high interms of mileage/price ratio I would go for the lower mileage first then the price. I know easier said than done if you are strapped for cash but if it were that big of a difference in mileage then I would definately get the lower one. If you has said the mileage was 150K and the price was 8 and the other was like 130 or 140K but for 12, then I would explore other factors to help with the decision that might put the 150K one at the top.

Glad you have decided on the M, so have I. :alright

323I Junkie
06-15-2005, 03:51 PM
:handshake:

Theres just something about Motorsports

323I Junkie
06-15-2005, 06:38 PM
just saw an M5 up close..at the mall...

All the more desire to get one now. I cant beleive the interior in these, was the leahter different somehow? Its seems to hold up quite a it better