View Full Version : How do I get this #&#*! DSSR in? HELP!


Chuck
06-11-2005, 09:00 PM
I think UUC sent me the wrong DSSR part. Trying to get the notched end over the connector, and the ears wont fit over the bushing inside the connector.


My car is up on jacks, pieces all over the ground, and now its dark. I want this thing finished tonight.

YetiX
06-12-2005, 10:44 AM
Crap, Chuck I wish I had seen this yesterday. I had that issue with mine too, see my response to your other post. I had to pry the ears apart just a bit and then work with the damn thing forever to get it to fit.

Since the pain of this is still fresh in my mind, I'll PM you my number and you can give me a call.

Scott

Chuck
06-12-2005, 12:26 PM
Thanks anyway but the DSSR is going back. Its either the wrong part or its not machined properly. I don't believe in spending $100 for a "precision" part like they advertise and then having to make it fit. We got along just fine without it for all these years. If my selector rod starts to wear it would be easier and cheaper for me to buy a new factory part than to fight with this overgrown block of metal crap.

bimmer95
06-12-2005, 01:48 PM
Sounds like whoever sold you your Evo3 sent you a pre-6/04 one that had the thicker bearing spacers. Hence the option of pre or post-6/04 Evo3 when you order the DSSR, if you order "pre" then a new pair of spacer are included. Even if you have the early ones, it's an easy fix, 5 minutes with some emery cloth will take off enough aluminum for them to fit perfectly. Of course I pretest the fitment for my customers before shipping Evo3/DSSR combos :)

Rob Levinson
06-12-2005, 09:20 PM
1) If you're having difficulty at the transmission end, consider that you may have some road gunk or buildup on the sides of the selector joint. Make sure they're cleaned off, maybe a light wipe with a fine-grade sandpaper.

2) If you're having difficulty at the shifter end with an EVO3 shifter, all you need is a single revised bearing liner, free of charge.

Please call us in the office on Monday, we're always anxious to resolve any customer issues as quickly as possible.

Chuck
06-13-2005, 12:37 AM
1) If you're having difficulty at the transmission end, consider that you may have some road gunk or buildup on the sides of the selector joint. Make sure they're cleaned off, maybe a light wipe with a fine-grade sandpaper.


Working on Sunday Rob? Man...

Well, the problem was at the transmission end of the DSSR. The notched ears would not fit on the coupler joint or whatever its called. The bushing protrudes on either side of the joint and prevents the DSSR from sliding on. The joint was clean, the problem is that the DSSR is machined so tightly that it can't make it past the bushing.

FWIW, I got the whole thing together. The shifts are a lot firmer, but I don't notice any reduction in throw. All the shifts seem normal, just tighter, with the exception of 5th gear, which actually seems farther than stock. And before anyone says it - yes I verified the orientation of the lever before I locked everything down. Twice. Three times if you count when I had inserted the lever and realized that the white bearing still needed to be installed.

I don't know if my schedule will permit me to call you tomorrow Rob, but I'll try. Thanks for responding.

argento
06-13-2005, 01:35 AM
1) If you're having difficulty at the transmission end, consider that you may have some road gunk or buildup on the sides of the selector joint. Make sure they're cleaned off, maybe a light wipe with a fine-grade sandpaper.

2) If you're having difficulty at the shifter end with an EVO3 shifter, all you need is a single revised bearing liner, free of charge.

Please call us in the office on Monday, we're always anxious to resolve any customer issues as quickly as possible.


Simple solution...had similar issue (on e36m3) and Rob took care of it ASAP. Great support. Thanks.

jjr

Rob Levinson
06-13-2005, 09:02 AM
The shifts are a lot firmer, but I don't notice any reduction in throw. All the shifts seem normal, just tighter...

Which is exactly what it's supposed to do - more precision, less free play.

...with the exception of 5th gear, which actually seems farther than stock.

That part doesn't make any sense... the DSSR is dimensionally the same as your OE selector rod, so there cannot be any changes in shift travel or gear position.

- Rob

333inlinesix
06-13-2005, 09:20 AM
Just to chime in here...The shop that put my Evo III in had difficulty with the DSSR as well, so it was sent back. Not sure if I had the wrong part, (I know I ordered it right, it was the bent one) or if the shop could not put it in, but I know it was definitely the first they ever heard of so who knows.

TheMossMan
06-13-2005, 12:03 PM
Since it appears Rob's monitoring this thread, I've got a quick question....

I have my EvoIII installed, minus the DSSR, and I can't figure out how to lower the height. I loosened the screw, but it wouldn't budge...any suggestions?

Chuck - I had an OEM BMW SSK before I put in the UUC, and I achieved a tighter feel and seemingly shorter throws..it was like getting a new transmission. odd you didn't get the same....wonder if while the oem ssk in mine might have actually increased the throws...

TheMossMan
06-13-2005, 12:06 PM
edit....double post

Chuck
06-13-2005, 07:28 PM
That part doesn't make any sense... the DSSR is dimensionally the same as your OE selector rod, so there cannot be any changes in shift travel or gear position.


I'm sorry - when I said I got the "whole thing" installed, I should have put "minus the DSSR". The Evo III is in, the DSSR is laying on the floor in the garage. But yeah, its weird. 5th seems "out of bounds" almost.

Rob Levinson
06-13-2005, 08:24 PM
I'm sorry - when I said I got the "whole thing" installed, I should have put "minus the DSSR". The Evo III is in, the DSSR is laying on the floor in the garage. But yeah, its weird. 5th seems "out of bounds" almost.

Sounds like the shifter is rotated 180 degrees. Refer to the orientation diagram in the instruction guide.

- Rob

Chuck
06-13-2005, 10:34 PM
Could be. But it isn't. I checked it several times during the install. Bent back and a little bit left, correct?

Rob Levinson
06-14-2005, 07:19 AM
Could be. But it isn't. I checked it several times during the install. Bent back and a little bit left, correct?

That's correct. Are all the other gears positioned correctly? if you think about the shifter as a solid, unbending rod (which it is), there's no way for just a single gear to be in the wrong position - the entire gear pattern would be shifted in one direction. Is neutral centered? How are the other gears?

- Rob

Chuck
06-14-2005, 07:50 AM
Everything else seems perfect.

I'm not saying 5th is horrible, it just seems like the position on the original shifter compared to the rest. Its not enough to make me hate the Evo III.

TheMossMan
06-14-2005, 05:27 PM
Quick question for Rob...


I have my EvoIII installed, minus the DSSR, and I can't figure out how to lower the height. I loosened the screw, but it wouldn't budge...any suggestions?

333inlinesix
06-15-2005, 09:01 AM
Quick question for Rob...


I have my EvoIII installed, minus the DSSR, and I can't figure out how to lower the height. I loosened the screw, but it wouldn't budge...any suggestions?
You need to push down the rubber insulation around the bottom of the shifter and you will see a large bolt/nut, and you tighten/loosen the bolt accordingly. I am pretty sure the thread is upside down, so adjust opposite.

bimmer95
06-15-2005, 09:11 AM
Right, use the big nut on the bottom, NEVER mess with the screw. There is a little hole on the side of the lever designed to accept an aerosol can tube, you can spray a little lube in there to make the adjusting easier.

TheMossMan
06-15-2005, 09:46 AM
Cool...thanks to both of you...I'll give a shot tonight.

BattleWagon
08-15-2005, 09:48 PM
Bringing this thread back to life because:

I just called UUC and asked about DSSR fitment issues with 05 M3's and apparently there is a selector joint change in later M3 models. UUC is waiting to confirm this with BMW.

The newer spec'ed joints are apparently wider which would require re-machining of the tranny end ears of the DSSR to have a larger opening.

I was just about to jack the car up and do the install when I got wind of this :mad

Chuck
08-16-2005, 12:26 AM
Interesting. It doesn't affect me anymore, since I sold my DSSR on Saturday. But thanks for mentioning it. I knew I wasn't crazy. :D

BattleWagon
08-16-2005, 01:12 AM
Interesting. It doesn't affect me anymore, since I sold my DSSR on Saturday. But thanks for mentioning it. I knew I wasn't crazy. :D

Did you ever call UUC about it...I guess enough people called it in that they started to put 2 and 2 together and realize where there is smoke, there is fire and that they need to investigate it.

You should try it again when they finally get it fixed. It is a nice piece that works good.

Chuck
08-16-2005, 08:09 AM
Thanks but no thanks. I spent several hours under my car trying to force that thing in, with quite a few people telling me I must be doing something wrong. Between that and the little out-of-order snafu with the instructions for the Evo III, I'm done messing with the shifter. The only time I'll ever do anything further with the transmission is when I have a flywheel and clutch put in.

I never called Rob about it, even though he personally invited me to do so. I was just fed up with the thing so I kind of pushed it out of my head. I'm still a UUC customer.

BattleWagon
08-19-2005, 07:33 PM
Thanks but no thanks. I spent several hours under my car trying to force that thing in, with quite a few people telling me I must be doing something wrong. Between that and the little out-of-order snafu with the instructions for the Evo III, I'm done messing with the shifter. The only time I'll ever do anything further with the transmission is when I have a flywheel and clutch put in.

I never called Rob about it, even though he personally invited me to do so. I was just fed up with the thing so I kind of pushed it out of my head. I'm still a UUC customer.

chuck,

What month production was your car. I heard that March 05 on production had part change at the selector joint. Thanks.