what are your thoughts on it? whats the most u can sup up that engine. I was wonderin, because i might buy one. I have a pretty crappy pic. this is all i could get. oh yeah can anyone guess what year it is
http://we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/i=wOTQ0OTMyNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D
http://we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/i=wOTQ0OTMzNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D
http://we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/i=wOTQ0OTM0NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D

ummm , thats my friends car and he is rebuilding the engine right now. who told u its for sell ?

not the actual car pic i found on the net. dont know where it came from, but the car im getting looks like this. well since u have some expirience on it, what year is it

oh, and where in LA are U

this car is a 89 , its needs some body work and a new engine which he is rebuilding it for 1500 $ with some engine upgrades. I live in glendale btw. Are you looking for a none e30 m3 ? cuz im thinking of selling my 325i.

You can make more power on your current motor.

what are your thoughts on it? whats the most u can sup up that engine. I was wonderin, because i might buy one. I have a pretty crappy pic. this is all i could get. oh yeah can anyone guess what year it is


Not to be a dick or anything, but if you don't already know how much you can "sup up" the S14, I don't know if you should be buying an E30 M3. E30 M3s are great cars for purists and track junkies. They're fairly rare cars and command high prices for decent examples. If you buy one in fair condition, make sure you are prepared to spend $$$ on maintenance. Why not just buy an E36 M3? They can be modded easily and a good E36 can be found cheaper than a good E30.

Yea the e30 m3 is definatly the enthusiasts car....I would kill for one. And if you really wanted power in an e30 m3 you would do an engine swap...s50/m50 or s52/m52

Yea the e30 m3 is definatly the enthusiasts car....I would kill for one. And if you really wanted power in an e30 m3 you would do an engine swap...s50/m50 or s52/m52

And then I would kill you...

when clean, e30 m3s are so beastly...

And then I would kill you...

:D

when clean, e30 m3s are so beastly...

Don't leave out the bad parts...Parts are outrageously expensive, they cost a ton to maintain, many have been abused, the 'good' examples are way overpriced while the 'poor' examples will require a second mortgage to bring back up to specs, and finally they are rather slow by the standards of the e36.

Buy an e36 M3. All of the above apply but to a much smaller degree. If I were going to deal with all of these problems on a vintage car, it would be a 240z.

Buy an e36 M3. All of the above apply but to a much smaller degree. If I were going to deal with all of these problems on a vintage car, it would be a 240z.

:confused

Please don't buy an E30 M3 if all you are interested in is power. There are much better cars for that, and it will cost you 2 arms and a leg to make a lot more power than stock on an S14. The key to the M3 is balance. If you want power there are many more better, cheaper alternatives.

Post this in OT.

thanks for the replies, the reason i asked was because i was gonna do a swap to a s52. I just wanted to know if anyone actually took the time to revive an s14, or if its more money than its worth. I will be gettin this car from a freind. so it will be cheap. The reason i wanted this e30 m3 is because i love the boxyness of them, they look so agressive.

thanks for the replies, the reason i asked was because i was gonna do a swap to a s52.

:rolleyes :(

:rolleyes :(
im sorry u feel that way but i feel= :eek: :buttrock :D :alright

It looks to me like the Hennarot color, they only sprayed that for the 1988 model year.

that is actually my car and its a 5/87 henna rot . its been parked there awaiting a rebuild which my cousin totally FLAKED on and now im awaiting to see who the F bumped into my car and take care of that before i take it to SBI.....errrr..

thanks arthur for the heads up on the pics and also its not going to come out to $1500 , pshh i wish......more like $3K -$4K hehe ...also...it feels kinda eerie having people take pics of my car at night when im not there.

arthur jan, meyus ankom arjek nera stekh me gree,

yes madz gabig em

yes madz gabig em

haha you're a big monkey?...matt is that you? i never knew you had some armenian in you.....maybe you just have some armenian friends telling you that actually means "i have a sick e30" take care bud

- Ara

^ HaHaHa I knew you'd get a laugh out of that one man, lol

My friend Armen told me it but I did in fact know what it meant, lol

...i was gonna do a swap to a s52. I just wanted to know if anyone actually took the time to revive an s14, or if its more money than its worth.
If you are going to swap in another motor, at least make it a REAL ///M motor. The S52 was for the US market only and does not have solid lifters nor individual t-bodies like the ///M motors in every other part of the world do. Please keep the Motorsport heritage alive in the car.

Back to the S14, modding it and whether that is worth the price is all relative to the individual driver. The S14 can make over 300hp normally aspirated, but this is FAR from street trim, and not on pump gas. In street trim most people will not think it has enough power, when compared to newer M3's, even the US versions. But put it on a track or in the corners with a good driver behind the wheel, and a street trim 2.5L S14 will eat most newer M3's alive. As mentioned, the e30 M3 was about balance, not brute force.

But if you get this car I suppose it is YOURS, so our opinions really make no difference on what motor you throw in there, or what the car will be used for. It was born and bred for the track, so stop-light racing should be the LAST thing done with it (even though I did that with mine for the first 3+ years I had it).

If you are going to swap in another motor, at least make it a REAL ///M motor. The S52 was for the US market only and does not have solid lifters nor individual t-bodies like the ///M motors in every other part of the world do. Please keep the Motorsport heritage alive in the car.



Don't listen to him, he's just jealous.

Don't listen to him, he's just jealous.

He knows what he is talking about.

Don't listen to him, he's just jealous.
Jealous? Right! Of a signle throttle body and a valvetrain that can't rev above 8K rpm. You right....I MUST be jealous of the M50/M52 based motors the US e36 M cars came with. :rolleyes

This thread makes me want to cry.
Its actually threads like this that make me never want to read this forum.
I'm better off not knowing people like this really exist.

It really makes me want to buy every last beat up E30 M3 left and start a shelter to keep them out of the hands of the clueless.
Kind of like an e30 M3 adoption agency. Only people who get it need apply.

These cars are rare, getting rarer by the day,,,, partly due to massivley clueless people butchering them because they look cool.

They are NOT overpriced, slow, underpowered, or inferior in any way to an e36 M3. They are factory homologation specials. The single most famous car BMW ever raced and some idiots talk about them like they are Hyundais.

You must ask yourself, would you treat the following cars with the same level of disrespect
3.0 CSL
2002 Turbo
E24 M6
Porsche RS America

Right now these cars are in a lull price wise which is opening them up to countless inane swaps and needless butchery.
You say they are overpriced,,, well its supply & demand. There aren't that many out there and that number shrinks every day.

I guess there are alot of people out here willing to pay big money for a car that "looks cool".

You probably think 2002 Turbos and 3.0 CSLs are overpriced too.
Have you priced a nice E24 M6 lately?

These cars are NOT mass produced, ///Marketing cars like an E36 M3 where they built and sold a 1/4 million of them. Sure those are cheap and getting cheaper.
They should be,,, and they will continue to drop.
E30 M3s are a different thing altogether.
At the rate the remaining E30 M3s are being dismantled, butched, engine swapped,,, I think sooner than later the market will shift even higher.
The cars that are now getting 15k will start bring 20, and the really nice ones will swing back up towards their original sticker.

I wonder if the guys who love 3.0CSLs, 2002s and M6s ever had to endure this period in their car's lives...

Werd....