This thread will be ongoing (mainly to keep track of what Ive pulled), but this is what I have so far. I havent listed prices yet because I havent had a chance to research what they've been going for. I'll do that when I get into work :lol:

From 95 M3:

Schroth Black 4pt Rallye4 Harnesses ($160 new ea.): SOLD
Autopower Rollbar with removable center brace: $300
UUC Swaybars SOLD
Interior Black Carpet (pending to vjlax18)
Advance Design Suspension with 700/850 spring rates, no C.plates: SOLD
M3 license plate frame : $15
Oh Shit bars: $10 ea.
Non-sagging glovebox : SOLD
Door panels : offer
Speakers : offer
Complete trunk toolkit : $75
Lightweight battery and Russ Wiles box : (pending bidding war between vjlax18 and MRacer :stickoutt )
M3 swaybars: $120
Visors : $50 for both
Basic OBC with some missing pixels: offer
RSMs : (pending to bogdan)
Vaders : $650
Rear Seat : Free with purchase of Vaders. Tear on backseat, stiching coming off in small area of bottom base.
Headliner (perfect condition) : $75 (pending payment/pickup by Preppy)
Stock jack/lug wrench : $40
Steering wheel w/ airbag: SOLD
Passenger side airbag : $100
Tons of sound deadening material: :lol

Thats all I can think of for now. More to come later.

going IP?

This thread will be ongoing (mainly to keep track of what Ive pulled), but this is what I have so far. I havent listed prices yet because I havent had a chance to research what they've been going for. I'll do that when I get into work :lol:

From 95 M3:


UUC Swaybars (pending to MWhip)


Thats all I can think of for now. More to come later.

Please keep me posted as to what MWhip does and how much you are looking for if he can't do it. Thanks.

going IP?

Sure am David! As soon as I goto my doctor fo a physical, my license app is going in!

Guinness.. they are sold.

Cool, thanks for replying.

Sure am David! As soon as I goto my doctor fo a physical, my license app is going in!


SWEET!

i need to get a physical sometime soon....also need to pick up a driving suit sometime before my comp school...

when is your first race going to be?

SWEET!

i need to get a physical sometime soon....also need to pick up a driving suit sometime before my comp school...

when is your first race going to be?

Im trying to be ready for Summit Point 8/20... contact me offline for suit contact. Dunno if you have one, but I got a source (sponsor) and I'll pass the discount to you.

Im trying to be ready for Summit Point 8/20... contact me offline for suit contact. Dunno if you have one, but I got a source (sponsor) and I'll pass the discount to you.

will do...

btw, sorry for jacking your thread! ;)

Eric -

Congrats on going IP! Be happy to crew for you if needed.

BTW, the Carbotechs were terrific in this year's One Lap. I'm a convert.

Will you be coming over to RRT on Saturday? If so, will see you there.

Neil

Are the visors black? Also, are coupe and sedan visors the same? I imagine they would be.

I am interested in the door panels and headliner...


Black? Good condition?


I can prob. pick this stuff up if need be...


Thanks

Eric -

Congrats on going IP! Be happy to crew for you if needed.

BTW, the Carbotechs were terrific in this year's One Lap. I'm a convert.

Will you be coming over to RRT on Saturday? If so, will see you there.

Neil

yeah congrats on going IP Eric :) ...looks like there'll be some good racin' in the MAR afterall!!! The Summit Point race in August is a fun one indeed...

Neil, howcome you never offered to crew for me man....boohoo :( ... ;) :stickoutt ...

my friend is looking for some vaders...how much?

Sunir, check your email.

Waders are cheap at Dicks Sporting Goods.

Eric, How bad is the obc display? Miine is terrible and cannot make out the messages.

Neil, howcome you never offered to crew for me man....boohoo :( ... ;) :stickoutt ...

Ummh... how 'bout cause I don't have any cigarettes ;)

Neil

Wonger, headliner....is it black? I want it, how much?

And the harnesses, are they clip in or bolt in?

The Schroth is bolt-in. Not that mig of a difference anyways. You can move it to the side when youre not using it and the rear part clips in so if you undo that, ppl can still sit in your backseat.

The headliner is in perfect condition and is black.

Matt, the OBC is missing no pixesls from the "data" part. ONly a "line" from the date/time area.

Vader price is $650 including rear seats (free).

Neil, THANKS!

Sunir, can't wait. I think O-fest will be more fun as I know VIR better... but Im HOPING the car will be done by 8/20. There is still that pesky issue of actually getting my rookie license.

Do you still have the lug wrench?

How about the plastic parts that hold the jack in place in the trunk?

Thanks,
Craig

Do you still have the lug wrench?

How about the plastic parts that hold the jack in place in the trunk?

Thanks,
Craig

Yup:

Stock jack/lug wrench : offer

Plastic parts? you mean the plastic clip that clips into the rear section?

Not to be a wet towel here, but I doubt that you're going to remain at BSP-legal weight after removing all this stuff + the sound-deadening material. The cage and battery will put back some of that, but I'm more pressed to see you weigh in before you run BSP.

The thing is that if you don't remove this stuff, you'll be overweight for IP. If you do, you'll be overweight for BSP. Your call...

Not to be a wet towel here, but I doubt that you're going to remain at BSP-legal weight after removing all this stuff + the sound-deadening material. The cage and battery will put back some of that, but I'm more pressed to see you weigh in before you run BSP.

The thing is that if you don't remove this stuff, you'll be overweight for IP. If you do, you'll be overweight for BSP. Your call...

I'll weigh the car. You have to also factor in that it's BSP legal to remove AC and sunroof. So that cant be part of the calculations. Furthermore, I had already agreed to run ballast weight if it came in too low for BSP. This was all in emails that transpired between you, Matt, Bill Collins and myself. But like I said in prior emails, if there were going to be issues, I would happily move to a different class. I was looking to avoid the type of animosity that James got and tried to convey those thoughts early on so I could move to the appropriate class if needed.

Please tell me NOW if this is an issue because I dont want to be hal;fway through the season before people start calling me names and protesting me when I could have easily moved to Mod.

Your email response to me (Tue 5/3/2005 12:18 PM):


Eric,

I'd hate to lose another competitor, so I'd like for
you to you stay in BSP.

However, I also want the playing field to be
reasonably even. If your IT-spec car weighs in at a
decent number and isn't grossly underweight compared
to the rest of ours, then it's all good.

Glenn


My reply (Tue 5/3/2005 1:13 PM):

Im pretty sure the car will end up weighing more, but if it shows low when I weigh it, I'll add weight for autocross.

To which there was no objection. And now since those guys are at each event weighing cars, it's even easier for me to "prove" my weight. Hell, I'll even add weight to weigh MORE than you or Matt if it's that big of a deal. I'd even offer to PAY to weigh your car and Matt's car just to be sure. I just dont understand the sudden change in tone or view. I knew this was going to happen and its partially my own fault for wanting to continue running with everyone.

No change, dude...just stating what I did in my original response to you. To repeat myself, if the car "isn't grossly underweight compared to the rest of ours, then it's all good."

If you meet the 3048 lbs. minimum (with driver), that means the car alone weighs around 3000 lbs. ;) That's certainly acceptable for BSP, so let your conscience be your guide.

Furthermore, this whole thing started because of the whole screwed up classing system. For those who do not know, if you prep a car to IP/IT spec it WOULD be legal for Street Prepared. Only problem is, there is no national SCCA IT classing for the M3. That's where this all came about... just like a E36 3 series that is an ITS car would be legal for DSP.

I asked for opinions and got the above response. I even offered to add weight. Im just fumed now because of the sudden change in attitude... or maybe Im just being too sensitive and FREAKING OUT! :eek:

No change, dude...just stating what I did in my original response to you. To repeat myself, if the car "isn't grossly underweight compared to the rest of ours, then it's all good."

If you meet the 3048 lbs. minimum (with driver), that means the car alone weighs around 3000 lbs. ;) That's certainly acceptable for BSP, so let your conscience be your guide.

Glenn... if you want to bump my FS ads.. all you need to do is say ^bump. Though all this drama does bring added attention to the thread... so thanks in advance if parts get sold because of the extra coverage.

My car already weighs well under 3048 in BSP form. I think the last time I weighed it, it was 2850 (minus rollbar and empty tank). So my problem wont be weight REDUCTION, it will be weight ADDITION.

No need to be all sensitive, no need to be upset. Quite simply, you did ask for opinions, I offered mine. The thing that you seem to forget is that it's a valid concern...hardly trivial considering the win margins over the last 3 years.

Also, it's not because of the screwed-up rules, Eric...it's because you're trying to tailor the car for one series yet hoping to remain legal for another.

Chill, think about the point I'm trying to make, make your decision, and stick to your guns afterwards.

Oh, yeah...bump for a good seller! ;)

Jump to EMod and run in the same half of the day as me. :D

Yeah, but then he'd deprive Gary of a championship t-shirt....

still have the rear passanger door panel? i'll take it.

I guess Gary would just have to drive like he SHOULD in autox. :stickoutt

still have the rear passanger door panel? i'll take it.

Yea, but its a little knicked up from my rollbar install.

Eric, I will not protest you but I will still call you names :D

Eric, this is a silly argument, once you start w2w racing, you wont care about autox anymore...who cares about BSP, DSP or whatever...w2w racing will make you forget all about cones and parking lots... LOL hahaha guys just j/k :D :stickoutt ...had too, Eric and Glen set it up perfect for the joke!!! :)

but seriously, if you wanna autox, just use your street car (like I am with the E46 323i) and have fun with it... heck you can still find a class to run in at the autox and be competitive with a car that is not modded as much as your race car, right?

Eric, this is a silly argument, once you start w2w racing, you wont care about autox anymore...who cares about BSP, DSP or whatever...w2w racing will make you forget all about cones and parking lots... LOL hahaha guys just j/k :D :stickoutt ...had too, Eric and Glen set it up perfect for the joke!!! :)

but seriously, if you wanna autox, just use your street car (like I am with the E46 323i) and have fun with it... heck you can still find a class to run in at the autox and be competitive with a car that is not modded as much as your race car, right?

Sunir, that's not my issue. I wanted to finish the season. Next year Ill just run EM.

And I cant run my street car. It's a 2004 Yukon Denali. The Integra would break if I tried to autocross it.

Hey, Sunir...can I use your car to autocross? ;)

Eric -



BTW, the Carbotechs were terrific in this year's One Lap. I'm a convert.

Will you be coming over to RRT on Saturday? If so, will see you there.

Neil

I'll be at RRT.

Did I sell you the XP9s or the XP10s? If you thought the 9s were great... wait till those are done and Ill put you in a set of XP10s :eek: :eek: :eek:

Hey, Sunir...can I use your car to autocross? ;)

He has cams... NOT LEGAL!!!!!

It is in A-Mod.

Emod too aren't they?

The rollcage should add approximately 160 lbs IIRC ... (assuming non-nascar style sidebars for driver side -- and assuming 1.5x120 DOM tubing) -- that's what I was told (give or take 30 lbs).

JD should give you a good idea of what the IP car can weigh in at -- but, from what I hear, JD believes that my car, weighs A LOT LESS than his SM car, and will do so, even with the rollcage.

From my experience on the ASP side of things, even though people may tell you that it is "okay" verbally -- I put them in a hard position b/c we were friends. They did not want to be the a$$ and tell me no, I should not run.

But, they are right, if you are outside the rules, regardless, you need to run it in the proper class. Hence, people in IP bend the rules -- but, if it is not allowed, you should not do it. The spirit of competing requires you to comply with the rules even if everyone else is bending them. A BSP car is typically around 3300 lbs with driver (I think) -- so, if you are at 3048 lbs -- that's a lot of weight you are saving over a typical BSP driver. Even though the E36 M3 is rated at 3175 lbs, we found that 96+ models typically weighed more than 1995 models, and ones that were optioned were around the 3300 lb range WITH racing seats.

I am upclassing myself to AMod so I can get a cool shirt as well! You BETTER not come to Amod :mad ... I CLAIM Amod!!! :mad

There's got to be 100lbs of sound material in the cars, plus whatever the rest of the interior weighes.

The rollcage should add approximately 160 lbs IIRC ... (assuming non-nascar style sidebars for driver side -- and assuming 1.5x120 DOM tubing) -- that's what I was told (give or take 30 lbs).

JD should give you a good idea of what the IP car can weigh in at -- but, from what I hear, JD believes that my car, weighs A LOT LESS than his SM car, and will do so, even with the rollcage.

From my experience on the ASP side of things, even though people may tell you that it is "okay" verbally -- I put them in a hard position b/c we were friends. They did not want to be the a$$ and tell me no, I should not run.

But, they are right, if you are outside the rules, regardless, you need to run it in the proper class. Hence, people in IP bend the rules -- but, if it is not allowed, you should not do it. The spirit of competing requires you to comply with the rules even if everyone else is bending them.

I am upclassing myself to AMod so I can get a cool shirt as well! You BETTER not come to Amod :mad

I was talking to dmwhite and his car is at about 2750 with no gas. He is going to add Nascar bars to add some more weight...

I guess I could come into AMod... :devillook

What was this thread about again?

SWEET!

i need to get a physical sometime soon....also need to pick up a driving suit sometime before my comp school...

when is your first race going to be?
Oh yeah, bending over and coughing.

So, 4 drivers in A-mod?

So, 4 drivers in A-mod?

Actually, Jason, you could come up to Amod -- you are always allowed to upclass yourself ...

But, I already claim AMod :mad ... you guys fight over Bmod, Cmod, and Dmod.

I think Gary has claimed Emod :stickoutt

Jason is co-driving with Eric.

What was this thread about again?


Oh yeah, bending over and coughing.

:lol

I was talking to dmwhite and his car is at about 2750 with no gas. He is going to add Nascar bars to add some more weight...


i'll still have to add some more weight to be IP legal....

Actually, Jason, you could come up to Amod -- you are always allowed to upclass yourself ...

But, I already claim AMod :mad ... you guys fight over Bmod, Cmod, and Dmod.

I think Gary has claimed Emod :stickoutt

Right, I am following the Eric. Just like I assume Pete is gonna follow you. That's why I said 4 drivers. We already switched.

Right, I am following the Eric. Just like I assume Pete is gonna follow you. That's why I said 4 drivers. We already switched.

No... I was going to force Pete to go into Bmod, Cmod, Dmod, or Emod :stickoutt

I want a cool shirt ... :(

No... I was going to force Pete to go into Bmod, Cmod, Dmod, or Emod :stickoutt

I want a cool shirt ... :(

Aww come on.. what happened to wanting to drive in the same group and share the fun!

BTW, CM and DM are already taken by other "cars"

Yeah...you don't want to run in DM.

Aww come on.. what happened to wanting to drive in the same group and share the fun!

BTW, CM and DM are already taken by other "cars"

Okay, Amod is mine then :mad

You can fight over EM and BM :stickoutt

Well, I was thinking, if all of us go into EM, that makes six total drivers. That would result in two trophies, correct? Unfortunately, Eric is the better driver, so, you should consider upclassing into AM -- then, let Pete, Jason, myself, and Gary fight it out over EM. That would be fairer I think in terms of driving ability and skills. If pete starts whupping ass -- have him come up to AM with you and have you two duke it out ... Jason, myself, and Gary can duke it out in EM then.

Gary was telling us that there are 2 drivers in EM right now (himself and someone else). Although, he highly encouraged Pete and I to stay in SM2 w/the E46 M3 -- he really did not want people coming into EM -- he even tracked down the head steward to get us a ruling on whether we could stay in SM2 or have to move into EM :stickoutt

Okay, Amod is mine then :mad

You can fight over EM and BM :stickoutt

Well, I was thinking, if all of us go into EM, that makes six total drivers. That would result in two trophies, correct? Unfortunately, Eric is the better driver, so, you should consider upclassing into AM -- then, let Pete, Jason, myself, and Gary fight it out over EM. That would be fairer I think in terms of driving ability and skills. If pete starts whupping ass -- have him come up to AM with you and have you two duke it out ... Jason, myself, and Gary can duke it out in EM then.

Gary was telling us that there are 2 drivers in EM right now (himself and someone else). Although, he highly encouraged Pete and I to stay in SM2 w/the E46 M3 -- he really did not want people coming into EM -- he even tracked down the head steward to get us a ruling on whether we could stay in SM2 or have to move into EM :stickoutt

Eh, it's all the same to me. I can go off course and hit cones in any class :( :mad

Okay, Amod is mine then :mad

You can fight over EM and BM :stickoutt


Gary was telling us that there are 2 drivers in EM right now (himself and someone else). Although, he highly encouraged Pete and I to stay in SM2 w/the E46 M3 -- he really did not want people coming into EM -- he even tracked down the head steward to get us a ruling on whether we could stay in SM2 or have to move into EM :stickoutt

The other driver in EM is Chuck Sieber. If he ever gets his Lotus running ... that would be another class to "avoid".

Im not THAT good James... hell, Matt beat me by 1.3 seconds at the last event. Come to think of it.. I think if Lee was there that day.. that MIGHT have been good enough to give Lee a run for his $! :eek:

Anyways, who wants to BUY MY PARTS!!! ;)

Anyways, who wants to BUY MY PARTS!!! ;)

Bend over and cough, BITCH!

ok.. more fuel to the fire... I emailed Doug Gill (National SCCA Tech)... he says:


Hi, Eric,

The 3rd paragraph of Section 15 says, "Cars listed as eligible in and prepared to the current national Improved Touring rules are permitted to compete in their respective street prepared classes."

The problem as I see it is it states that the cars should be listed (the M3 is not) in the National Rules. You can probably run your M3 in a Regional ITE class, but it doesn't meet the criteria to be eligible for Street Prepared. Regional classes also can vary from Region to Region.

Your SCCA Region can allow your car to run in BSP as an IT car (Section 1.1), but it wouldn't go at a Divisional or National Solo event.

Another thing to consider is check on the changes you make in your car and maybe only do those that are also BSP-compliant. That way you'd still be OK in BSP. There are a lot of things you can do that would keep your car as a BSP car.

But I don't see how a full IT-prepped M3 would be legal in BSP.

Wish I could be more helpful.


- Doug

Doug Gill
SCCA Technical Manager, Solo
PO Box 19400
Topeka, KS 66619-0400
1-800-770-2055

food for thought - my bsp car weighs approx. 3050 with my current setup.

food for thought - my bsp car weighs approx. 3050 with my current setup.

Matt, your car could weigh 3600 lbs. and you'd still be fast. :buttrock

food for thought - my bsp car weighs approx. 3050 with my current setup.

I find that REALLY hard to believe Matt ... you have the entire interior, a rollbar (should add at least 80 lbs) -- plus, no real weight removal other than seats. Are you sure the scales were accurate?

3050 lbs with YOU in the car -- that's friggin amazing ... (how much gas?)

An IP car needs to be 3048 lbs with driver -- so, you are at an IP weight :eek:

But, if it is 3050 without you in the car -- is 160-180 lbs going to make a big difference in autocross, vs. an IP weight WITH driver of 3048 lbs?? That's for you guys to fight out ... ;)

You have to consider, even IF the IP driver adds weight, he can add weight to where it helps him, thus, perhaps, if the BSP guys allow Eric in, you guys should be able to dictate where the ballast goes rather than Eric, perhaps?

I think 3050 lbs. is the car's weight without the driver.

Autox weights are without a driver.

I find that REALLY hard to believe Matt ... you have the entire interior, a rollbar (should add at least 80 lbs) -- plus, no real weight removal other than seats. Are you sure the scales were accurate?

3050 lbs with YOU in the car -- that's friggin amazing ... (how much gas?)

An IP car needs to be 3048 lbs with driver -- so, you are at an IP weight :eek:

But, if it is 3050 without you in the car -- is 160-180 lbs going to make a big difference in autocross, vs. an IP weight WITH driver of 3048 lbs?? That's for you guys to fight out ... ;)

I think he means 3050 without him in it..... :confused

Glenn -> me -> Wonger

Is that an Asian sandwich? :shifty

me = OEM battery
JD = Odyssey PC680
Eric = AAA Duracell

Glenn -> me -> Wonger

Is that an Asian sandwich? :shifty

Glenn and Wonger doing an Eiffel Tower salute :eek:

Glenn and Wonger doing an Eiffel Tower salute :eek:

Ok, now that's a little far past THE DAMN LINE. ew

BTW, I weigh 195lbs.

What's an Eiffel Tower salute?

I think 3050 lbs. is the car's weight without the driver.


true.

Ok, now that's a little far past THE DAMN LINE. ew

You brought up the asian sandwhich :confused :)

Matt, your car could weigh 3600 lbs. and you'd still be fast. :buttrock

Matt may be the 2004 autox champion BUT Jeddy is still the almighty 2004 HPDE Champion!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

I say Jeddy vs. Matt in an all out motorsport challenge...including autox, HPDE, drifting, ice racing, oval track and drag racing :D :stickoutt

Eric won last year thanks to Lee.

What's an Eiffel Tower salute?

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back on topic:

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id like an M3 license frame, could you shoot me over a picture so i can see if its worth my small handfull of sweaty money?

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:eek: you've got a ways to go!!! there's so much stuff in that interior that doesn't need to be there!

:eek: you've got a ways to go!!! there's so much stuff in that interior that doesn't need to be there!

Hey now... that's just about 4 hours worth of work... this shit is TIME consuming! :mad

Look what a 40k car looks like under the knife of racer's :/.

Hey now... that's just about 4 hours worth of work... this shit is TIME consuming! :mad


yeah it is time consuming...took us a while to get the interior of my car the way I wanted...there is about 60 lbs of wiring you can remove...the trick is figuring out how to rewire the car ;)

also, get heat gun (or dry ice) and start taking out the sound deadening, use varsol of laquer thinner to clean things up...this is some nasty work but it'll be nice when the interior is ready for the cage to go in...

Looks good Eric! Took you four hours? I think it took JD 40 minutes :stickoutt

oh yeah -- you guys should always "right click" those links that say click me, etc ... I saw the weblink -- can't imagine the horror on images...

yeah it is time consuming...took us a while to get the interior of my car the way I wanted...there is about 60 lbs of wiring you can remove...the trick is figuring out how to rewire the car ;)

Just a warning to magnetic, as I'm not sure what wiring Sunir has removed...be careful about removing wiring as it's not mentioned anywhere in the rules. Based on the Prepared interior rules, my personal interpreation is that you could remove the wiring for the NAV, Stereo and Heat/AC systems, and no more.

C. Interior may be removed, except dash and door panels providing the car “conforms to the spirit” of the BMW CCA Club Racing Program, i.e., it is aesthetically pleasing. Driver and passenger side door(s) panels may be altered or removed to accept side door impact bars. The OEM driver and passenger door panel(s) may be replaced with 0.060” aluminum or a comparable material, securely attached to the door, as per the most current SCCA Improved Touring regulations. Stock door and sunroof operating mechanisms are considered part of the interior and may be removed. However, any door adjacent to a seat equipped with seat belts or harness must be capable of being opened from both inside and outside of the car.

NOTE: Interior is defined to include carpeting, seats, headliner, sound deadening materials, trim panels (door panels), console, entertainment and navigation systems, speakers, sun visors, and the sunroof mechanism, if one is present. If the sunroof mechanism is removed, the panel must either be securely sealed (welded/bonded) or secured in place with two retaining straps 1 inch wide and extending 3 inches beyond the sunroof opening on each side. The panel must be flush with the roofline. The sunroof panel must be of the same materials as originally manufactured in Prepared and may be of any metallic or composite material in Modified/Super Modified.

D. All heating and air conditioning components may be removed as long as vehicle meets minimum weight specification.

I'd recommend getting a rules clarification before you go cutting wiring out of a Prepared car.

Hahah...now you guys will know better :)

Just a warning to magnetic, as I'm not sure what wiring Sunir has removed...be careful about removing wiring as it's not mentioned anywhere in the rules. Based on the Prepared interior rules, my personal interpreation is that you could remove the wiring for the NAV, Stereo and Heat/AC systems, and no more.



I'd recommend getting a rules clarification before you go cutting wiring out of a Prepared car.

this is correct...Bry brings up a good point...upon going over the rules carefully on my race car we removed every shred of wiring for the heat system, including the heater core (which is allowed according to Clement)...as well as the speaker pre-wires (yes the LTW had speaker prewires...since the interior was removed, we also removed wiring for lights and such devices which constituted interior amenities (i.e interior lights, OBC and such) also...the trick is tracing these wires back and eliminating them...there is weight savings to be had but the process is time consuming...

Looks good Eric! Took you four hours? I think it took JD 40 minutes :stickoutt

oh yeah -- you guys should always "right click" those links that say click me, etc ... I saw the weblink -- can't imagine the horror on images...

Yea man...took me forever to get everything out. Just spent another hour or so with the heat gun and got a lot done. Almost filled a Recycle Bin with the black sound deadening stuff!

Bryan, thanks for the heads up. I wasnt planning on going outside the rules. However, Ive found a pesky Viper security system in the car and Im scared to cut the wires from it and not have the car start! :eek: Anyone familiar w/ the Viper Alarm? Can I just unhook it?

What's the deal, Lucile? Can I purchase the visors or not?

Eric....the headliner is considered SOLD man....why is it still listed? ;)

i'll give you $10 for the Complete trunk toolkit

Okay, Amod is mine then :mad

You can fight over EM and BM :stickoutt

Well, I was thinking, if all of us go into EM, that makes six total drivers. That would result in two trophies, correct? Unfortunately, Eric is the better driver, so, you should consider upclassing into AM -- then, let Pete, Jason, myself, and Gary fight it out over EM. That would be fairer I think in terms of driving ability and skills. If pete starts whupping ass -- have him come up to AM with you and have you two duke it out ... Jason, myself, and Gary can duke it out in EM then.

Gary was telling us that there are 2 drivers in EM right now (himself and someone else). Although, he highly encouraged Pete and I to stay in SM2 w/the E46 M3 -- he really did not want people coming into EM -- he even tracked down the head steward to get us a ruling on whether we could stay in SM2 or have to move into EM :stickoutt

Hey, I just wanted to make sure you're in the right class, and yeah it's that damn shirt. :stickoutt I think I had the most fun driving last Sun. in that Miata. :redspot Maybe I should buy this. :evil2 http://www.activeautowerke.com/BMW_cars_4_sale/M318Ti/default.asp

Oh I'll take the jack!

Eric....the headliner is considered SOLD man....why is it still listed? ;)

heh.... you never confirmed after I sent you pics :)

Dcardenas,$50/pair

Gary, $40 for the jack and associated hardware.

Toolkit is $75

Yea man...took me forever to get everything out. Just spent another hour or so with the heat gun and got a lot done. Almost filled a Recycle Bin with the black sound deadening stuff!

Bryan, thanks for the heads up. I wasnt planning on going outside the rules. However, Ive found a pesky Viper security system in the car and Im scared to cut the wires from it and not have the car start! :eek: Anyone familiar w/ the Viper Alarm? Can I just unhook it?

If it's a good viper system, I'd like to buy it from you ... :)

Call George (Protus) about the alarm system removal.

I still have to trace all of the speaker wires back to the source and get rid of them.

If it's a good viper system, I'd like to buy it from you ... :)

James, I have no clue what model Viper it is.

Doby, where is he located?

What kind of speakers do you have? Are they the Harmon-Kardon speakers?

Oops, my bad. Yeah, I shoulda done that.

heh.... you never confirmed after I sent you pics :)

Dcardenas,$50/pair

Gary, $40 for the jack and associated hardware.

Toolkit is $75

What kind of speakers do you have? Are they the Harmon-Kardon speakers?

No, they are not HK. They are the stock 95 speakers.

Dcardenas,$50/pair

What?! What happened to $10/each?

What?! What happened to $10/each?

You didnt confirm :) I gotta boost the price in anticipation of lowballers. If you want them, Ill sell them to you for $10 each.

Update PIcs:

25lbs of Sound Deadening Fury:

http://liteswap.com/merchant2/graphics/m3/gut/sound.jpg

Driver Side after getting high on Acetone:

http://liteswap.com/merchant2/graphics/m3/gut/inside3.jpg

Started getting lazy on the passenger side:

http://liteswap.com/merchant2/graphics/m3/gut/inside2.jpg

At least your car is black and you can't see the crap left behind.

eric, you'll probably want a driver's side footbox plate and a dead pedal welded into the cage foot protection bars later on...keep that in mind if it doesn't feel right for your feet in the footbox area at this point in time...

You didnt confirm :) I gotta boost the price in anticipation of lowballers. If you want them, Ill sell them to you for $10 each.

Consider this a confirmation! :buttrock

eric, you'll probably want a driver's side footbox plate and a dead pedal welded into the cage foot protection bars later on...keep that in mind if it doesn't feel right for your feet in the footbox area at this point in time...
He's getting one. ;)

Consider this a confirmation! :buttrock

send me an email/PM and I'll get you my paypal info or you can come pick it up.

send me an email/PM and I'll get you my paypal info or you can come pick it up.

Is cash ok? We can set up a time for this week, if you'd like.

Update PIcs:
http://liteswap.com/merchant2/graphics/m3/gut/inside2.jpg

You should reconsider the spot you mounted the hazzard button. It might be hard to hit it down there when you smoke dem fools in da street races. :eek:

Is cash ok? We can set up a time for this week, if you'd like.

Cash is fine too :)

Im in Silver Spring.

Schroth and UUC Sways are sold, thanks MWhip!!! Other stuff still avail

What else do you have available?

Thanks to Wonger Motorsports, service was outstanding once again...he was sick and still did the latenight install :buttrock.

Schroth and UUC Sways are sold, thanks MWhip!!! Other stuff still avail

What else do you have available?

Everything is listed on the first post.

Eric, if you're coming out Saturday, can you bring the RSM's?

Update: MARB diet.

2616 lbs prior to rollcage work. We shall see how much the cage ads next week.

Above weight is near empty fuel, removed sunroof and gutted interior.

Still need to remove AC (50-60lbs). and random audio components including amp. :buttrock

Your baby is Anorexic for sure....but this time it is healthy ;)

Update: MARB diet.

2616 lbs prior to rollcage work. We shall see how much the cage ads next week.

Above weight is near empty fuel, removed sunroof and gutted interior.

Still need to remove AC (50-60lbs). and random audio components including amp. :buttrock
Congrats! Your car is about as light as mine (stock). :stickoutt

Just twice the hp. :(

---Eric

Congrats! Your car is about as light as mine (stock). :stickoutt

Just twice the hp. :(

---Eric

I thought your car's power was rated in watts. :confused :dunno

I thought your car's power was rated in watts. :confused :dunno
:fingerboi

---Eric

Update: MARB diet.

2616 lbs prior to rollcage work. We shall see how much the cage ads next week.

Above weight is near empty fuel, removed sunroof and gutted interior.

Still need to remove AC (50-60lbs). and random audio components including amp. :buttrock

just make sure you're within weight 'cause CR is cracking down on post race scaling of cars (especially top finishers within class)...remmember prepared cars are weighed with driver, stock class is not.

Also keep in mind that ITS E36 chassis cars are 2850 with driver and in HP, we are allowed to be 2832 w/ driver...although in IP the E36 M3 is to be 3048 if I recall correctly, there is a lot of weight to be lost, make sure you scale the car prior to a race weekend and use ballast as needed and where appropriate on the chassis.

just make sure you're within weight 'cause CR is cracking down on post race scaling of cars (especially top finishers within class)...remmember prepared cars are weighed with driver, stock class is not.

Also keep in mind that ITS E36 chassis cars are 2850 with driver and in HP, we are allowed to be 2832 w/ driver...although in IP the E36 M3 is to be 3048 if I recall correctly, there is a lot of weight to be lost, make sure you scale the car prior to a race weekend and use ballast as needed and where appropriate on the chassis.

Thanks Sunir, Im well aware of the rules. ;)

I thought your car's power was rated in watts. :confused :dunno
I thought it was rated in hoofpower... or 1/4 of a horsepower? :dunno

I thought it was rated in hoofpower... or 1/4 of a horsepower? :dunno
Ummmm.... No comment. :shifty

---Eric

more update pics:

http://liteswap.com/merchant2/graphics/m3/gut/nodash2.jpg

http://liteswap.com/merchant2/graphics/m3/gut/nodash.jpg

Heater Core and AC coming out this weekend :)

Are you sure it is smart to take out the heater core?

You are removing some serious weight ... sure you won't end up in HP or CMod? ;)

Mine is definitely not as stripped as yours ... :eek:

Are you sure it is smart to take out the heater core?

You are removing some serious weight ... sure you won't end up in HP or CMod? ;)

Mine is definitely not as stripped as yours ... :eek:

:) why is it not smart to remove the heater core? defrosting? Im running a vent w/ a 3" blower fan from the floor through the dash for defrosting.

Car will prolly be HP legal, but I'll be adding ballast weight in the rear to make it IP legal.

More pics to come this weekend. RRT says cage should pretty much be done by then.

Awww a new racecar is born....you had to go and mess w/ the E36 ///M3 to make it even better.

more update pics:

http://liteswap.com/merchant2/graphics/m3/gut/nodash2.jpg

http://liteswap.com/merchant2/graphics/m3/gut/nodash.jpg

Heater Core and AC coming out this weekend :)


GOOD GOD MAN WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO THAT POUR BMW :eek: :( :bluecry1 :ban:

eric the car is coming along well :) ...to those of you that think gutting a BMW is wrong, I think you should experience driving a race car at 11/10ths on a qualifying lap and then you'll understand why doing this to a BMW is right ;) ...these cars are meant to be driven hard on a track, that is where they belong and that is where they truly shine :) ...just my opinion :D :stickoutt

Keep it coming Eric and keep us posted...best of luck to you, James, Jesse, and the other newcomers to w2w...see you all out on the grid :buttrock

I bet it's going to be really easy to mount the PS2 and Xbox with the interior stripped like that. Your installs are going to be cleeann. :eek: You going to make it to HIN this year?

Make sure to keep the hazard switch. You'll need it when you pass people to signal victory. :)

Make sure to keep the hazard switch. You'll need it when you pass people to signal victory. :)

:rofl

Rear section is in and ready to weld... it's coming along!!!

http://liteswap.com/merchant2/graphics/m3/gut/cage.jpg

http://liteswap.com/merchant2/graphics/m3/gut/cage2.jpg

http://liteswap.com/merchant2/graphics/m3/gut/cage3.jpg

Rear section is in and ready to weld... it's coming along!!!

http://liteswap.com/merchant2/graphics/m3/gut/cage.jpg

http://liteswap.com/merchant2/graphics/m3/gut/cage2.jpg

http://liteswap.com/merchant2/graphics/m3/gut/cage3.jpg

So, that expired passenger side camlock harness you got is going to attach where?

So, that expired passenger side camlock harness you got is going to attach where?

Its coming! patience!

So your car is the reason ours isn't done!

So your car is the reason ours isn't done!

Not at all... ask Barry about "the bird".

So, that expired passenger side camlock harness you got is going to attach where?

I may just have them mounted to the rear bulkhead. That way if I ever decide to race with no passenger side, I wont have a bar there.

Not at all... ask Barry about "the bird".

:finger22 ....thar's da bird for ya! lol...

Eric the car's cage is looking good, seems like RRT is churning out the same design as they did on Arjun's cage...must be their hot setup for Prepared level/ITS type cars...although I suspect the Watt's cage will offer a better overall design since they are able to do more in modified classes.

http://www.liteswap.com/merchant2/graphics/m3/gut/rear2.jpg

http://www.liteswap.com/merchant2/graphics/m3/gut/apillar3.jpg

looking good...it's a carbon copy of Arjun's ITS cage it seems...the webbing on the a-pillar ala motorsport style lol :D :stickoutt ...signiture RRT design cue!

Nice Eric! Good job on converting it from an autox car to a racecar!

Sounds like it took a bit of work to do it. I remember seeing Bud and Austin's take that same transformation whenever I saw it.

Sweet cage!

Great-looking cage Eric. I think your's definitely will be better-looking and built than mine. As long as mine is safe, I'll be happy. I told Kearney's to "surprise" me ...

WTB - 2.8 or 3.2 cats

WTB - 2.8 or 3.2 cats
Just adjust the recipe to use 3 cats.

What are you cooking? :confused

---Eric

(sorry, couldn't resist)

haha. i am actually redoing my seats in cat fur.

http://www.liteswap.com/merchant2/graphics/m3/gut/roof.jpg

http://www.liteswap.com/merchant2/graphics/m3/gut/rear3.jpg

lookin great man!!! You're gonna have one of the nicest prepared class cages out there buddy :)

Wow. That is some straight PTG-lookin' type shit. What a cage. :eek:

Yo Eric,

can we have the fender when it gets replaced? perfect for the showroom wall. bling!

Barry

Yo Eric,

can we have the fender when it gets replaced? perfect for the showroom wall. bling!

Barry

Barry, tell you what... buy me a new fender and you can have it FREE! :stickoutt ;)