All V1 users... What I want to know is, who among you have been ticketed for speeding, in spite of your costly protective device? I want to see how often it happens, and under what conditions.. like, were you particularly vulnerable to POP? Laser? something else? Were you alone on the road when detected, or in a group of cars when you were singled out?

I have a bunch of points on my license, and even if my lawyer is able to keep my license for me, Im pretty sure the next ticket I get may well be the one that takes me off the road... So to prevent that, aside from the unthinkable (driving a little slower), Im seriously considering springing for this last bastion of protection.

Hence, my question to you experienced V1 users. Thanks.

All V1 users... What I want to know is, who among you have been ticketed for speeding, in spite of your costly protective device? I want to see how often it happens, and under what conditions.. like, were you particularly vulnerable to POP? Laser? something else? Were you alone on the road when detected, or in a group of cars when you were singled out?

I have a bunch of points on my license, and even if my lawyer is able to keep my license for me, Im pretty sure the next ticket I get may well be the one that takes me off the road... So to prevent that, aside from the unthinkable (driving a little slower), Im seriously considering springing for this last bastion of protection.

Hence, my question to you experienced V1 users. Thanks.


I haven't been ticketed yet but I have been hit with laser and instant on KA band (possibly POP). I'm not sure if the detector wasn't working at it's highest potential or if the police had POP.

Example 1:
I was in Mammoth Lakes, CA when I got hit with the KA band with absolutely no warning this was a radar gun operated by the local Mammoth Lakes Police from a Ford Expedition patrol SUV.

Example 2:
The same thing happened on a prior occasion on the way back from Mammoth on HWY-395 in the middle of nowhere. Just as I spotted the CHP (California Hwy Patrol) the V1 started going crazy, there was no warning at all. Usually I get at least 1/2 mile warning before I get to the cop, if not more.

In the first example we were going about 80 or 85 on the open highway, the cop followed us for about 2 miles and then turned around and went the other way.

In the second example I wasn't speeding at all.

I have to say that overall, the V1 has saved my butt from a serious ticket at least 8 times.

I've been ticketed once: Instant on (KA) from a blind corner....no one else on the NJ turnpike (3am).

Most of the time, the V1 has saved my bacon well in advance. Although a few times it didnt even peep when going by traps in NJ and PA

I've been ticketed once: Instant on (KA) from a blind corner....no one else on the NJ turnpike (3am).

Most of the time, the V1 has saved my bacon well in advance. Although a few times it didnt even peep when going by traps in NJ and PA

See, thats the stuff Im worried about... If they happen to be aiming at you, and you happen to be the first in the area, by the time you detect his radar, hes got you. I dont want to spend the dough, just to get nabbed with my third ticket in 18 mos. The worse thing, to me, is a false sense of security.. At least, with my current Whistler radar detector, I know it wont do POP, so I watch my speed.. IM afraid that with the V1, Ill feel invincible, and therefore, get nailed. And if I have to watch my speed with it, then I might as well keep my current unit! See the dilemma? its a bummer.

I had my V1 for about a year... before i got one i would average 3-4 tickets a year. Since i got one, i have had one... and it was due to pacing.

Pulled on to the highway off of the on ramp at night and started shifting through the gears for some fun.. my luck .. cop just happend to be behind me when i entered the highway.. i never saw it coming.

I am a pretty agressive driver and think it's worth it and i know it saved my ass many.. many of times. I commute pretty far from my home and mostly use it for that. It's really only usefull for highway driving... as there is too much interference in the city.
For what it's worth, my friend has the Passport 8500 and i like my valentine much better, not to mention if push comes to shove and you need some cash fast.. you can always sell it for close to what you bought it for.. Valentines command an incredible resale value.

P.S. - honeslty.. pop radar is more of a gimmick then anything else.. with valentine you best chance to escape a ticket is to detect cops from far away... i usually can detect them anywhere from 1-2 miles away. Pop or not your detector will at least beep once, if i get ANY reading on my KA band on the highway.. i immidiately slow down, as around here 99.9% of the time it's a cop.

How about going 5 over the speed limit; period. Beats taking the bus.

How about going 5 over the speed limit; period. Beats taking the bus.

how about you sell your bimmer and buy a Prism.

only once.....was traveling on the Garden State Parkway (GSP) on Easter Sunday doing about 85 pretty much flowing with traffic but then all of a sudden the V1 bursts full strength for about 2 seconds then shuts off didnt look what band..........then an umarked State Police Crown Vic out of nowhere is right on my ass and pulled over. He said he had like 5 of us to choose from but chose me because of my tinted windows and mind u this is in my Dodge Ram Hemi...........that is the only time I have ever been pulled over woth the V1 on and believe me the V1 has saved my ass on numerous occasions...........just buy the damn thing paul

how about you sell your bimmer and buy a Prism.

Well, it is the best way to prevent getting excessive tickets. :rolleyes

I've had my V1 (version 1.7) for a couple of months now. I'm always amazed at how far ahead I pick up cops. I saw more cops than usual last night as I was taking my friend to see my new house. She was amazed how well it worked and thought it was pretty neat that I knew where the cops were long before you could see them. If they see you and hit the gun there is no way around that one.

Bottom line, in your situation, is that you are just going to have to slow down. As good as any radar is there are far too many unknown's that will bite you in the ass if you assume it will pick up everything. There is a cost for everything. Driving fast allays increases your risk. FYI, I'm not ragging on you or trying to sound like your mom. This is just the way it is and nothing you can do about it.

That said, I will second any recommendation for the V1. If nothing else, the arrows are awesome! No more guessing where it's coming from. :buttrock
Seth

How about going 5 over the speed limit; period. Beats taking the bus.I noticed your sig says you have a V1. Why do you need this if you never go more than 5 over? Stop being a hypocrite.

I love and recommend the V1. I have mine hard-wired in the NSX rear window (custom mount on the Mugen harness bar), with the remote display on my steering column. It is all quick release and very trick.

It is a radar detector, not a ticket preventer.

You have to drive like you don't have a radar detector. The key is to maintain an active visual scan. If you don't know what is ahead, behind and around you, you need to slow down until you do.

With the V1, moving radar (K) is not an issue. The only thing you have to worry about is a stationary cop shooting laser or Ka (or the cop that simply observes your fast driving, but that is another matter that is dealt with though a good visual scan). This means you have to pay attention to the road and the places that the police can park their car and shoot radar from (or park a motorcycle). If you don't know what is over the top of the next hill or behind the overpass, you need to slow down until you do. Period.

As long as you drive appropriately and slow down when you do not know what is around you, you can go virtually as fast as you want and will have little risk of getting a ticket. Still, anything can happen and as the old saying goes, if you want to play you have to pay.

I noticed your sig says you have a V1. Why do you need this if you never go more than 5 over? Stop being a hypocrite.

How is he a hypocrite? I have a V1 and I tend to only go 2-3 over. :confused I guess I am too in that case.

Two reasons I have one. 1) it was free. 2) I like to know what's going on around me when I am driving and in the event that I am not monitering my speed at that given time, I have a chance to correct it prior to being ticketed. No hypocrisy here.
Seth

If this guy has the same problem as me than you must understand that slowing down is not a option.

It's like asking a crack head..."just stop smoking crack".

I guess speed is my crack and my my M/ is my pipe.

Get the V1 or 8500...but be smart. They work good if you know how to use one. For example, only speed were you know the only speed trap is rader and make sure there is always a car in front of you at least a couple hundred yards.

If this guy has the same problem as me than you must understand that slowing down is not a option.

It's like asking a crack head..."just stop smoking crack".

I guess speed is my crack and my my M/ is my pipe.



In the NSX world we call this the "go fast crack pipe".

Once you take a hit, you can't put it down . . .

I had my V1 for about a year... before i got one i would average 3-4 tickets a year. Since i got one, i have had one... and it was due to pacing.

Pulled on to the highway off of the on ramp at night and started shifting through the gears for some fun.. my luck .. cop just happend to be behind me when i entered the highway.. i never saw it coming.

I am a pretty agressive driver and think it's worth it and i know it saved my ass many.. many of times. I commute pretty far from my home and mostly use it for that. It's really only usefull for highway driving... as there is too much interference in the city.
For what it's worth, my friend has the Passport 8500 and i like my valentine much better, not to mention if push comes to shove and you need some cash fast.. you can always sell it for close to what you bought it for.. Valentines command an incredible resale value.

P.S. - honeslty.. pop radar is more of a gimmick then anything else.. with valentine you best chance to escape a ticket is to detect cops from far away... i usually can detect them anywhere from 1-2 miles away. Pop or not your detector will at least beep once, if i get ANY reading on my KA band on the highway.. i immidiately slow down, as around here 99.9% of the time it's a cop.

What??? Gimmick you say? I have enough points to lose my license now, and both speeding tickets I believe are due to POP, which is the only type of radar/laser my Whistler detector doesnt work on. Both times it was silent, so I can only assume it was pop that got me.. That, plus teh fact that the cops said each time that it was a 'new ' type of radar.. Whatever, POP is no gimmick.. And for those Escort fans, at the radartest site, the 8500 only detected Pop about half the time, but the V1 worked 100% of the time.


BTW, if you averaged 3-4 tickets a year, how come u didnt lose your license? Ive had two speeders, and one illegal left turn in the last 18 mos, and they account for about 15 points.. At 11, you lose your license, if you dont contest them. At 20 mph over the limit, each speeing tick of mine was worth 6 pts each. I hired a lawyer to keep my license, but its very expensive.

I've had mine for 3 years , and so far (knock on wood), I haven't gotten any tickets since I've had it.

I have been pulled over on 3 separate occasions for other violations, one of which was supposedly speeding. (In the rain, speed limit was 40 and I was going 40, all the cars around me were going 20, so I appeared as I was going a lot faster than I was. The cop didn't get any sort of accurate speed calculation, and even when he was pacing me, I was going the speed limit). The other one was routine stops, where the cops were checking liscences/registrations/insurance from everyone, and I happened not to have my current insurance card with me. The last one was because I was talking on my cell phone while driving in LI. I got warnings for all 3.

BTW, if you averaged 3-4 tickets a year, how come u didnt lose your license? Ive had two speeders, and one illegal left turn in the last 18 mos, and they account for about 15 points.. At 11, you lose your license, if you dont contest them. At 20 mph over the limit, each speeing tick of mine was worth 6 pts each. I hired a lawyer to keep my license, but its very expensive.I've received a few speeding tickets, one was 75 in a 55, one was 75 in a 55 that I later had reduced to 65 in a 55, two were written up as non-moving violations, and the highest was 125 in a 65. With the last one, no detector will do you any good.

However, my tickets are usually spaced about 1.5 years apart, so points fall off before I get another ticket. If you're getting enough tickets for them to add up and cause a suspension, I would actually recommend you slow down a bit, too. Trust me, I understand how hard it is, but it's either that or get a good pair of walking shoes (and that's no fun). At least take it down a notch.

I would slow down for awhile. I was in the same boat and had to pay $90 to get up on Saturday and spend 8hrs listening to auto safety. The alternative was licesnse suspension.

In any case it would certainly be a good idea to get a radar detector, but they are not fool proof. You gotta know when to speed and when not to. Alone on a road it's hard to miss you. Driving around town you gotta know the speed traps (usually any stretch of open road around Boston).

Unfortunately for you I would advise to slow down, otherwise have fun on the bus...

I've received a few speeding tickets, one was 75 in a 55, one was 75 in a 55 that I later had reduced to 65 in a 55, two were written up as non-moving violations, and the highest was 125 in a 65. With the last one, no detector will do you any good.

However, my tickets are usually spaced about 1.5 years apart, so points fall off before I get another ticket. If you're getting enough tickets for them to add up and cause a suspension, I would actually recommend you slow down a bit, too. Trust me, I understand how hard it is, but it's either that or get a good pair of walking shoes (and that's no fun). At least take it down a notch.

Youre definitely right. In August of 04, which is just before I started logging these tickets, I got my custom dyno and street tuning, and my Supercharger upgrade, and I was really driving around as if I owned the streets... The irony is, boht speeding tickets were in the city limits, doing 55 in a 35. Neither time was I really trying to exercize the car's speed.. I just got nabbed in a speed zone in the city limits... And neither time did my Whistler detector go off. Maybe if I had POP detection, I would ahve been saved. Im afraid that Ill feel to secure with the V1, which as everybody has said, its not a ticket preventer. And, if youre going to drive with that in mind, then why have the thing at all? I think it might be a case of false security. I dont know. Ive got to work it out mentally before I spend the money for one.

>>I was in the same boat and had to pay $90 to get up on Saturday and spend 8hrs listening to auto safety. The alternative was licesnse suspension.<<

Youre lucky.. Id gladly do that. Ive pleaded not guilty to all three infractions Ive received between October and now. If all three were convicted as written, id have 15 points, and a mandatory suspension.. Thats pretty scary.. FAced with that, I spent $1000 for an attorney. Sure, I could go to court myself when each gets called, and thats what Id have done, had I received just one, or had points under the manddatory susepension amount of 11. But in this case, I just cant afford to take the chance, that maybe, there will be some small procedural issue he'll be able to catch them on, that Id miss, that might make the difference between license, and no license. As for his rate, I talked to 3 other attorneys in the area, and for 3 infractions, this is fair, believe it or not!

Youre definitely right. In August of 04, which is just before I started logging these tickets, I got my custom dyno and street tuning, and my Supercharger upgrade, and I was really driving around as if I owned the streets... The irony is, boht speeding tickets were in the city limits, doing 55 in a 35. Neither time was I really trying to exercize the car's speed.. I just got nabbed in a speed zone in the city limits... And neither time did my Whistler detector go off. Maybe if I had POP detection, I would ahve been saved. Im afraid that Ill feel to secure with the V1, which as everybody has said, its not a ticket preventer. And, if youre going to drive with that in mind, then why have the thing at all? I think it might be a case of false security. I dont know. Ive got to work it out mentally before I spend the money for one.Want to know why I bought mine?

It wasn't for the previous tickets, I deserved those. Even my 125 in a 65 ticket I sucked up, paid the fine, accepted the points, and dealt with the suspension.

Back in the early part of this year I was on the turnpike, and a cop shooting radar picked up the car behind me but pulled me over. I'm currently fighting that ticket with teeth and nails. I was barely over the speed limit, yet he said I was doing 82 in a 65 (which the car that passed me was roughly doing). The next week I bought my V1.

I figure if I want to sell it, I'll barely take a loss. I paid $365 straight from Valentine.

What??? Gimmick you say? I have enough points to lose my license now, and both speeding tickets I believe are due to POP, which is the only type of radar/laser my Whistler detector doesnt work on. Both times it was silent, so I can only assume it was pop that got me.. That, plus teh fact that the cops said each time that it was a 'new ' type of radar.. Whatever, POP is no gimmick.. And for those Escort fans, at the radartest site, the 8500 only detected Pop about half the time, but the V1 worked 100% of the time.


BTW, if you averaged 3-4 tickets a year, how come u didnt lose your license? Ive had two speeders, and one illegal left turn in the last 18 mos, and they account for about 15 points.. At 11, you lose your license, if you dont contest them. At 20 mph over the limit, each speeing tick of mine was worth 6 pts each. I hired a lawyer to keep my license, but its very expensive.

i have never encountered a pop radar around bay area yet.. i guess it's just not commonly used here.
I could be wrong here.. but i thought pop was just a different way of shooting the same band radar(k or ka or laser)
i misspoke.. not avg 3-4 but the year before i got the V1(same year i got my M) i got 4.. other then that i avg around 1-2 a year.

How i get off..? i know a way around the CA traffic system.. and i got a good lawyer for some of my larger tickets (it really was not all that much, relatively speaking) and deffinitely worth it.

And again.. i don't speed in the city.. and liek everyone else said.. it's not full proof.. you need to keep your eyes open and practice "defensive cop" driving. Meaning if you see a potential spot ahead where a cop could possibly be hiding.. slow down.

both speeding tickets I believe are due to POP, which is the only type of radar/laser my Whistler detector doesnt work on. Both times it was silent, so I can only assume it was pop that got me.. That, plus teh fact that the cops said each time that it was a 'new ' type of radar.. Whatever, POP is no gimmick.. And for those Escort fans, at the radartest site, the 8500 only detected Pop about half the time, but the V1 worked 100% of the time.



Police cannot use POP for issuing citations. It shoots bursts of radar (usually k or ka) to get an estimate of speed. However, b/c its such short bursts they cannot lock-on and have to switch to normal radar to lock in your speed (supposedly for 5sec minimum). You were either VASCAR'd or the officer issued you a ticket that will not hold up in court.

http://www.radarbusters.com/support/maximize-detector/pop-mode.asp

As for your other question, I've gotten one ticket since I got the V1. 80 in a 55, instant-on around a corner and I was all by myself. I fully agree with brahtw8.....just b/c you have a detector doesn't mean you can speed blindly. Remember, a cop has to have line of sight, so its all about who sees who first.

Youre lucky.. Id gladly do that. Ive pleaded not guilty to all three infractions Ive received between October and now. If all three were convicted as written, id have 15 points, and a mandatory suspension.. Thats pretty scary.. FAced with that, I spent $1000 for an attorney. Sure, I could go to court myself when each gets called, and thats what Id have done, had I received just one, or had points under the manddatory susepension amount of 11. But in this case, I just cant afford to take the chance, that maybe, there will be some small procedural issue he'll be able to catch them on, that Id miss, that might make the difference between license, and no license. As for his rate, I talked to 3 other attorneys in the area, and for 3 infractions, this is fair, believe it or not!

Yes you're case is worse you must really like to speed! The thing is even after that it's not like everything goes away if I get another ticket I'm F'ed.

My advice is to fight every damn ticket you get. All that $$$ and the RMV still sucks!

:pullover

One of my general rules is: If I can't see a vehicle in front of me anywhere, I slow down. My V1 won't do me any good if the officer doesn't have his radar on. If there is a vehicle ahead of me, I'll maintain my speed and hope that the V1 picks up stray radar signals when the person ahead of me gets clocked.

yeah experienced cops can tell and pull someone over and just make up a reading...v1 don't help police laziness :cool

>>you need to keep your eyes open and practice "defensive cop" driving. Meaning if you see a potential spot ahead where a cop could possibly be hiding.. slow down.<<

You mean, like everywhere.

I had an Escort 8500 that I bought a few years ago (didn't want to spring for the V1, after all, who cares about arrows?) with decent success. I was surprised a few times by speed traps that I thought I should have had more warning on, but all in all I was pleased.

The 8500 was stolen (along with an excellent Kenwood HU, by the way) in fall of 2003, I went detector-less until April of last year when I bought a V1 out of curiousity.

These things kick ASS. I get a lot more warning than I did with the Escort, and the arrows are incrediblely useful. Like the other guys I always have plenty of warning, and I've only been surprised maybe twice since I've had it.

I usually drive 15-20 over on the interstate, sometimes I'll cruise at 110-120 if I'm in a hurry, and I've never had a ticket. Some day they'll probably get me, but TN cops are hooked on radar and they keep it cranked up.

Anyways, Valentine makes a sweet product, and if there's anything that will help you this is it. Either that or pull a spark plug :)

The V1 is very good. But IMO these things only work to pick up shots of radar or laser at other cars in your leading traffic. If you are alone, you still can get ambushed too quick for it to help :eek:

How about going 5 over the speed limit; period. Beats taking the bus.

how about you sell your bimmer and buy a Prism

or how about putting that SC to good use on the track and going 5 over limit on public roads before you or someone else gets killed, speed freaks.

I think V1 is one of the best detectors out there. It definitely has saved my ass plenty of times.

But you have to realize, that these units HAVE to be used in conjunction with common sense and good judgement. With instant-on radar, you won't have a chance, no matter what detector you have. Same with laser. When you're speeding, and you have no one around you, you have to know to slow it down a little. There's absolutely nothing that'll give you fool proof protection.

I've gotten a ticket while using the V1. Do I think the V1 didn't do its job, or wasn't worth it? Absolutely not, I simply did not excercise good judgement in that situation. It sure has saved my ass in PLENTY of situations, and believe me, its MUCH MUCH MUCH better than the Escort and Whistler models.

To boil it down, get a V1, they'll always be handy, and SLOW DOWN :) If you're on the edge of losing your license, get a cheap beater if you can afford it, or ride around with cruise control.

What's funny to me, is that I actually speed LESS now that I have a V1. I'm so aware of how many cops are actually around me that I'm paranoid about it.

I agree with pretty much everything said above. While the V1 has saved my ass on numerous occasions, a good bit of that was simpily me being more aware of my surroundings because I'm so used to it going off now and driving alittle slower because of it.

I enjoy speed as much as the next guy, but I take it in short blasts now. Waiting until I get the chance to make that 120mph pass on the freeway and checking my surroundings completely. Or going a mile out of my way to hit the onramp that has 2 solid miles of nowhere for a cop to hide to peg out my speedometer. I like the think of the V1 as my 2nd line of defense and hope that it will catch the few things that I don't.

or how about putting that SC to good use on the track and going 5 over limit on public roads before you or someone else gets killed, speed freaks.

That doesn't sound "Balls Deep" to me . . . :lol

Radar detectors are only as good as your reactions.

With that said, the only time I got pulled over in 4 yrs with my V1 was when the volume was off. :rolleyes It has saved my ass so many times I can't imagine how many tickets i'd have without it. To this day it is still the best 'mod' i've done.

Im not putting anybody down, but unquestionably, there is a factor at work here, that says, when you pay $400 bucks for a device to help keep you ticket-free, most people HAVE to attribute every day they arrive at their destination ticket-free to that little flashing box theyve installed. Its the same thing with the fitness conditioning, Supplements market. The success of those things is predicated completely on this principle. You eat their pills or drink their shake, go to the gym, have an especially good-feeling workout, and Bam, its because of those supplements you just took.

Im not putting anybody down, but unquestionably, there is a factor at work here, that says, when you pay $400 bucks for a device to help keep you ticket-free, most people HAVE to attribute every day they arrive at their destination ticket-free to that little flashing box theyve installed.

While there is some measure of placebo effect for some, I assure you that the warnings I receive of impending radar are appreciated and heeded with excellent results. Heavy braking as a result of V1 warnings has avoided tickets for me on countless occasions.

While there is some measure of placebo effect for some, I assure you that the warnings I receive of impending radar are appreciated and heeded with excellent results. Heavy braking as a result of V1 warnings has avoided tickets for me on countless occasions.

You know, even with my aging Whistler, every time it gives me a loud series of beeps, Im very appreciative as I jam on the brakes.

The decision I have to make is, with enough points to cause a mandatory suspension facing me head on, will purchasing and using the V1 increase appreciably the odds of me hanging on to my license. NOthing will, as much as heeding the speed limit.. But I know myself, and I know thats not going to happen.. Yes, Im being way more careful, and driving way more slowly. But i still do exceed the limit at times, but Im doing it not Everywhere, like I did before. Damn, why is this a hard decision for me... :help

I noticed your sig says you have a V1. Why do you need this if you never go more than 5 over? Stop being a hypocrite.

Just good advice. I speed all the time, but if I'm at the point where I have so many tickets I might get my license taken away I'd have to get the will power to slow down a tad. The Valentine 1 is awsome, but sooner or later you'll get caught. I'm just saying I'd rather continue driving than taking the bus.

Just good advice. I speed all the time, but if I'm at the point where I have so many tickets I might get my license taken away I'd have to get the will power to slow down a tad. The Valentine 1 is awsome, but sooner or later you'll get caught. I'm just saying I'd rather continue driving than taking the bus.
I'm not sure if I agree that sooner or later, you'll get caught. The V1 is a tool, not a ticket-avoider. You still have to pay attention to what's ahead, trying to find the person that is driving fastest on the road, and go lower than their speed, and not to speed in residential neighborhoods.

Of course you can still get instant-on and paced by a cop, but generally, if you don't stick out from the rest of the cars, you won't get pulled over.

You know, even with my aging Whistler, every time it gives me a loud series of beeps, Im very appreciative as I jam on the brakes.

The decision I have to make is, with enough points to cause a mandatory suspension facing me head on, will purchasing and using the V1 increase appreciably the odds of me hanging on to my license. NOthing will, as much as heeding the speed limit.. But I know myself, and I know thats not going to happen.. Yes, Im being way more careful, and driving way more slowly. But i still do exceed the limit at times, but Im doing it not Everywhere, like I did before. Damn, why is this a hard decision for me... :help
I don't understand why you are choosing to make this a hard decision.

Either keep it below 55mph and be done with that, or get a V1 and drive normally. If you can't pony up the $400 for a V1, then 55.

--Analysis is paralysis--

I don't understand why you are choosing to make this a hard decision.

Either keep it below 55mph and be done with that, or get a V1 and drive normally. If you can't pony up the $400 for a V1, then 55.

--Analysis is paralysis--


Im not 'choosing' to make it a hard decision.. It IS a hard decision.. for me... Thats because Im still not convinced that with my driving style, its going to help. I already use a radar detector that has laser detection features. And while I thought its helped me, Ive also gotten too many tickets. If I Really wanted to make sure I wouldnt get tickets, Id remove and sell my supercharger.. Its in the exercizing of that thing whicn puts me in most jeopardy. If I still had a peak 200 whp as in stock, I wouldnt have gotten my tickets. With both of my tickets in the last 18 mos, the V1 simply would not have helped. In one, I was the only one on that stretch of road, and on teh other, I was cut off by a construction created lane end, and had to speed up to keep from going off the road..

Im not 'choosing' to make it a hard decision.. It IS a hard decision.. for me... Thats because Im still not convinced that with my driving style, its going to help. I already use a radar detector that has laser detection features. And while I thought its helped me, Ive also gotten too many tickets. If I Really wanted to make sure I wouldnt get tickets, Id remove and sell my supercharger.. Its in the exercizing of that thing whicn puts me in most jeopardy. If I still had a peak 200 whp as in stock, I wouldnt have gotten my tickets. With both of my tickets in the last 18 mos, the V1 simply would not have helped. In one, I was the only one on that stretch of road, and on teh other, I was cut off by a construction created lane end, and had to speed up to keep from going off the road..

If you've gotten that many tickets with your current detector, its obviously not up to par or you use it as the be all and end all of speed regulation. if you want the BEST protection available, get the V1, if you wanna risk the suspension, don't. that simple. and if its that important to drive, then you gotta at least calm down a little for a while til you get some points back.

The V1 is a far superior detector than the Whistler. How do I know? I OWNED THEM BOTH!!

I doubt you're about to take your supercharger off, or stick to 55mph religiously - therefore, buy the V1 :) It will make a difference.

Im not 'choosing' to make it a hard decision.. It IS a hard decision.. for me... Thats because Im still not convinced that with my driving style, its going to help. I already use a radar detector that has laser detection features. And while I thought its helped me, Ive also gotten too many tickets. If I Really wanted to make sure I wouldnt get tickets, Id remove and sell my supercharger.. Its in the exercizing of that thing whicn puts me in most jeopardy. If I still had a peak 200 whp as in stock, I wouldnt have gotten my tickets. With both of my tickets in the last 18 mos, the V1 simply would not have helped. In one, I was the only one on that stretch of road, and on teh other, I was cut off by a construction created lane end, and had to speed up to keep from going off the road..
Why don't your purchase a V1, and put it on the dash with your whistler detector, if you are so convinced that your detector is at fault for your tickets. Like I said before, I have yet to get a speeding ticket since I've had my V1 (over 3 years). You'll still be able to return the V1 if you don't like it.

I don't understand why you can't excercise self-control if you don't want a ticket. :confused. Like I said before, a radar detector is a tool, and it seems to me that you are relying on it way too much to get you out of a situation that could be avoided by using common sense. What were the details of your other tickets that you receieved with your current detector?

Why don't your purchase a V1, and put it on the dash with your whistler detector, if you are so convinced that your detector is at fault for your tickets. Like I said before, I have yet to get a speeding ticket since I've had my V1 (over 3 years). You'll still be able to return the V1 if you don't like it.

I don't understand why you can't excercise self-control if you don't want a ticket. :confused. Like I said before, a radar detector is a tool, and it seems to me that you are relying on it way too much to get you out of a situation that could be avoided by using common sense. What were the details of your other tickets that you receieved with your current detector?

Yea, well this is whats really pissing me off. The first ticket last october.. I was in a left hand lane coming into town... It was a construction lane.. Noone was in front of me, but i had cars behind.. I saw up ahead my lane was ending in a construction mess, very unmarked .. I had two choices: I could have either jammed on the brakes so as not to go into the divider where the road ended and run the risk of getting rear ended, or speed up and fit into the adjacent line of traffic to the right, which I did. Speed limit was 30, I sped up to 53 just to squeeze in, and slowed back down again ... But it just so happened it was in a speed trap area.

The second speeding ticket was more avoidable. I was alone. it was night, roads were empty, and I was a half mile from home, coming into town. I had a wheel balance issue that cropped up around 60. I was going to get it fixed, but wanted to test it one more time... I sped up from 35 to 55, and then came right back down again.. But it was too late.. He got me.. And since I was the only one on that straight away, V1 wouldnt have dont squat for me.

Yea, well this is whats really pissing me off. The first ticket last october.. I was in a left hand lane coming into town... It was a construction lane.. Noone was in front of me, but i had cars behind.. I saw up ahead my lane was ending in a construction mess, very unmarked .. I had two choices: I could have either jammed on the brakes so as not to go into the divider where the road ended and run the risk of getting rear ended, or speed up and fit into the adjacent line of traffic to the right, which I did. Speed limit was 30, I sped up to 53 just to squeeze in, and slowed back down again ... But it just so happened it was in a speed trap area.

The second speeding ticket was more avoidable. I was alone. it was night, roads were empty, and I was a half mile from home, coming into town. I had a wheel balance issue that cropped up around 60. I was going to get it fixed, but wanted to test it one more time... I sped up from 35 to 55, and then came right back down again.. But it was too late.. He got me.. And since I was the only one on that straight away, V1 wouldnt have dont squat for me.
The first one sounds like plain bad luck.

The second one sounds like it could have been avoided, but you can't change the past as far as that is concerned. What bands of radar were you hit with for both tickets?

Paul why are you looking for a reason NOT to get one?!

I don't understand why you can't excercise self-control if you don't want a ticket. :confused.

Drive his car, youll find out ;)

Drive his car, youll find out ;)


LOL... thats the thing. When youve put all this into your car, and never get into accidents, you begin to resent having to drive speed limit. I know its irrational, but it happens.. know what i mean? I know you do :D .. Last thing I thought when I had my aftercooler installed, is that Id begin to miss my cruise control which was cut out... But under the circumstances, it might make it easier to abide by the limits.. Ill just have to be real judicious with my right foot, for the next year. .Whoopie Doo. Sounds like fun, doesnt it?! NOT.. but more fun that walking :redspot


>>The second one sounds like it could have been avoided, but you can't change the past as far as that is concerned. What bands of radar were you hit with for both tickets<<

Right.. The first one was real sucky; the second was sheer stupidity on my part.. I should have recognized this as a trap zone, and didnt.. I have no idea what he hit me with... my stupid Whisler didnt say boo. I know iM gonna break down and get a V1 before long. Im just being obstinate here, to make sure it stands up to all scrutiny.

BTW, in this mix of two spd tickets, Ive also got one stupid, 'Disobey Traffic Device' ... This was a joke. HE got me for an illegal left turn, although it was called what i quoted, ie , thats whats on the ticket. Whats a joke is that the intersection he wrote down for the location was over a mile from the intersection where he nabbed me. I WASNT EVEN AT THE LOCATION HE TICKETED ME FOR.. How my lawyer's going to get the judge to believe it is beyond me, but its the truth.. When your playing around that magical 11 point mark, every point counts.. This stupid one is worth 3 points all by itself, and it should be thrown out. Ill appeal this one up the yinyang if I have to.. The ticket is just plain incorrect.

As it stands each speeding is worth 6 pts, and the traffic device is worth 3. Now, the latter should get tossed, leaving me with 12.. 11 is the limit. Since each speeding cop said they reduce it in court, i probalby didnt even need to hire an attorney to deal with it; I could have represented myself. But you know what they say: "The client who has himself as his attorney has a fool for a client!!" :nono

No need to rationalize with me! I just took a Psych course that covered self-justification; now I like to think of sitting in traffic as 'earning credits' to speed :D

Ironically the one ticket I got was IN White Plains! Come to think of it I should probably follow up on that...it's been awhile since i've heard anything.

jerks.

paul, get the v1, you've got 30 days to love it or hate it. Mine replaced a then new Passport 7500(?) and I refuse to drive the e36 without it now.

if you've got the budget, get a lidatek LE30 for laser protection and you're set.

unrelated to Paul E's problem...what is the return policy for a v1. Do you need a reason, or is it 30 days no questions asked?

Use (for free) on a 2 week road trip is in the future, but I don't wanna keep it.

unrelated to Paul E's problem...what is the return policy for a v1. Do you need a reason, or is it 30 days no questions asked?

Use (for free) on a 2 week road trip is in the future, but I don't wanna keep it.
call them, tell them what you would like to do, I'm sure they have a solution for you.

No need to rationalize with me! I just took a Psych course that covered self-justification; now I like to think of sitting in traffic as 'earning credits' to speed :D

Ironically the one ticket I got was IN White Plains! Come to think of it I should probably follow up on that...it's been awhile since i've heard anything.

jerks.


Oh, Man, that does it! WP IS the Pits of the Earth! Theyve probably got PE penciled into Next Years Budget revenues!

Drive his car, youll find out ;)
i just lost a very close friend to a car accident that was attributed to speeding. I've driven fast cars, I like to go fast, but I've lost the desire to speed excessively.

'Speeding' is relevant. My condolences for your friend, but I don't see you handing your V1 to Paul. I don't blame you though... no one wants to go 55mph or get a ticket for going 70.

The second speeding ticket was more avoidable. I was alone. it was night, roads were empty, and I was a half mile from home, coming into town. I had a wheel balance issue that cropped up around 60. I was going to get it fixed, but wanted to test it one more time... I sped up from 35 to 55, and then came right back down again.. But it was too late.. He got me.. And since I was the only one on that straight away, V1 wouldnt have dont squat for me.

You're just looking for excuses not to get the V1 now :nono :confused

In the long run you will be safer and better off with the V1 - thats a basic fact.

Just realize there's no guarantees that you won't get nabbed for something trivial in the meantime and lose your license. :(

Put it this way, if after your first ticket, you had simply acted and gotten a V1, you might not be in your current situation. Poor conjecture, yes, but true enough. You're shooting yourself in the foot, then the arms, and gouging your eyes out for good measure :)

'Speeding' is relevant. My condolences for your friend, but I don't see you handing your V1 to Paul. I don't blame you though... no one wants to go 55mph or get a ticket for going 70.
I really only use my V1 for trips back and forth from NY to PA, and it's more of an accident avoidance tool, but I defintely still use it to avoid getting tickets. I just try and keep up with the flow of traffic, and most of the time, the flow is over the speed limit. I know that my car stands out, and that I will probably be the first to be hit with radar.

Other drivers always SLAM on their brakes when they see a police car, and it give me a little advanced warning. It happens every single time I drive that route, and without the V1, I've almost rear ended people that go from 70 to 40 when they see a cop.

in all honesty man, from reading your posts, a V1 is not going ot help you.. and if $400 is that much of a stretch for you.. i say forget it.
If you're a point away from loosing your license, i would not excede the speed limit by more then 5mph period. At this point you have no choice. Sometimes you can justy plain be unlucky, i've been there.. no V1 will save your ass even 80% of the time. Wait till next year and then get a V1.. or get one now and see if it inspires more confidence.. you got 30 days to try it out.

in all honesty man, from reading your posts, a V1 is not going ot help you.. and if $400 is that much of a stretch for you.. i say forget it.
If you're a point away from loosing your license, i would not excede the speed limit by more then 5mph period. At this point you have no choice. Sometimes you can justy plain be unlucky, i've been there.. no V1 will save your ass even 80% of the time. Wait till next year and then get a V1.. or get one now and see if it inspires more confidence.. you got 30 days to try it out.

Wow, Man.. you DO jump to conclusions, dont you.. Who said anything about $400 'being a stretch' for me? Is THAT what you think this is about? Just because we mature adults can afford to do something doesnt necessarily mean we SHOULD do something.. IN case you didnt know, THATS what this is about.. its got absolutely NOTHING to do with the money, and aside from your snide little remark, theres been little in this thread to guide you in that direction.

If.. and I say, IF I should forget about it, as you correctly are intimating, its because if one more ticket will suspend your license, then the only sane thing to do for the next year is stay within the speed limit.. Would YOU leave it up to chance, when you have zero headroom? In reality, though, after awhile of driving this way, it may fade into the fuzzy distance somewhat.. the danger, that is.. And when that happens, having the V1 at that point, could very well make the difference between license, and not.. So Im leaning very heavily toward it at this time.

Wow, Man.. you DO jump to conclusions, dont you.. Who said anything about $400 'being a stretch' for me? Is THAT what you think this is about? Just because we mature adults can afford to do something doesnt necessarily mean we SHOULD do something.. IN case you didnt know, THATS what this is about.. its got absolutely NOTHING to do with the money, and aside from your snide little remark, theres been little in this thread to guide you in that direction.

If.. and I say, IF I should forget about it, as you correctly are intimating, its because if one more ticket will suspend your license, then the only sane thing to do for the next year is stay within the speed limit.. Would YOU leave it up to chance, when you have zero headroom? In reality, though, after awhile of driving this way, it may fade into the fuzzy distance somewhat.. the danger, that is.. And when that happens, having the V1 at that point, could very well make the difference between license, and not.. So Im leaning very heavily toward it at this time.

hey man, relax.
I was not trying to be snide with my remarks.. i genuinely want to help you because I’ve been there before. It just seemed like you were looking for people to help you talk yourself out of buying a V1 and money was an issue.. as it should be.
No one can really tell you what you should do.. as it's different for everyone and also largely depends on where you live. I am sure there are people the will tell you that it's the best thing since sliced bread.. just because they paid a lot of money for it and in order to justify it to themselves.
But when i was in your place some years back.. i just decided to not break traffic laws at all.. because i could not afford to lose my license because of some stupid.. rolling through a stop sign or a pacing 10mph over the limit ticket.
I'll tell you one thing though.. if you get another ticket that will put you over, fight it nail and tuth with lawyer, bribes.. whatever.

j/k about the bribes

hey man, relax.
I was not trying to be snide with my remarks.. i genuinely want to help you because I’ve been there before. It just seemed like you were looking for people to help you talk yourself out of buying a V1 and money was an issue.. as it should be.
No one can really tell you what you should do.. as it's different for everyone and also largely depends on where you live. I am sure there are people the will tell you that it's the best thing since sliced bread.. just because they paid a lot of money for it and in order to justify it to themselves.
But when i was in your place some years back.. i just decided to not break traffic laws at all.. because i could not afford to lose my license because of some stupid.. rolling through a stop sign or a pacing 10mph over the limit ticket.
I'll tell you one thing though.. if you get another ticket that will put you over, fight it nail and tuth with lawyer, bribes.. whatever.

j/k about the bribes

Well, actually, the 400 bucks doesnt seem like a whole lot, in the face of the $grand I just forked over to a traffic lawyer a month ago to hopefully get me out of some of these tickets Ive gotten since October. You never know. Will the cops be true to their word, when my cases get called, and reduce the speeding charges to lesser offenses carrying less points, or at the least, drop them to lower speeding infractions, again, lowering the point total? They each said they would so they probably will.. But, am I going to stake my license on it? So, I bought 'License Insurance', which is how Im looking at my thousand dollar Lawyer fee.. Now, if HE doesnt do at least what Im guessing Id be able to do alone based on the cops' word, then Ill be so hopping mad I dont know What Id do. . One thing Id probably do is plead with him to refund at least Part of the Fee I paid him.. I dont know why these guys dont work on commission anyway.. After all, wouldnt Anybody resent paying this much money to a lawyer to reduce your liability in cases where the cops as much as said theyd be lowering the offenses anyway, just by pleading Not Guilty?! The Lawyers will tell you, 'We did just as much work regardless of the outcome.. we still had to show up; we stilll had to make a case...'. and after all, Lawyers NEVER guarantee outcome.. They cant. And yet, as i keep saying, the cops told me to just show up myself, and theyd be lowering the offenses. Based on that, if it doesnt happen, I know Id be thinking that the lawyer must have screwed it up badly, somehow. And if that happens, god forbid, for him to have taken the money for an outcome like that would be almost too much to bare.

Paul

Just go back to the RMS software since it's better. Have a hissy fit and make Nick give you a refund - bam there's your V1 :lol

Paul

Just go back to the RMS software since it's better. Have a hissy fit and make Nick give you a refund - bam there's your V1 :lol


HEY!! :eyecrazy :lol Hear that, Nick?! Wanna buy me a V1? Only problem is, I never had RMS software; I had Dinan software :)

v1 works well, but its obviously not full proof.

dunno if u read this, this helped me a lot

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33782

my v1 has been incredible. only failed me once but not its fault. cresting a hill at night going really fast and it lights up hard. I looked over to see a cop in a blazer off the side of the road. luckily, i think he was sleeping because he just stayed there :)

It was my first "mod" and I would recommend it to anybody else as their first as well.

my v1 has been incredible. only failed me once but not its fault. cresting a hill at night going really fast and it lights up hard. I looked over to see a cop in a blazer off the side of the road. luckily, i think he was sleeping because he just stayed there :)

It was my first "mod" and I would recommend it to anybody else as their first as well.
so then it really didn't fail you. :stickoutt