Need some help fellas. Looking for an M3 that I don't have to invest in intially. Ready to spend some money, but want a car done right. This one in particular is an 88 e30 silver with black interior. Lots of mods:

- 2.6 litre S-14 stroker with a 90 mm Cosworth crank
- Cosworth Spec "H" Beam connecting rods
- 95mm gas slotted j/e high compression pistons
- 95mm factory piston rings
- Shrick cam set - intake 284 - Exh 276
- Factory EVO III vavle springs
- Stainless steel 1 piece valves Int 38.5mm - Exh 33mm
- Crank main bearing stud set - ARP Spec
- Alluminum race fly wheel
- Sachs S-14 sport clutch disc
- Sachs S-14 sport pressure plate
- Complete timing chain-rails-tensioners-guides
- Custom factory engine oil pump-machined
- Fuel Injectors and Air Flow Meter - Evo III Spec
- Fuel Inj E-Prom Chip S-14 Stroker Spec
- Custom exhaust with super sprint race muffler
- Euro-tech (Mechanic) J-stock race suspension
- Konis single adjust/H&R race springs, adjustable sway bars
- Adjustable front camber plates w/offset crash mounts
- All sway bar mounting reinforcement
- Front and rear strut bars
- Alluminum race radiator
- Momo Steering Wheel
- Momo Shifter
- Momo Race Seats
- 4 point roll cage
- Alluminum hood
- Evo front
- Evo rear spoiler
- Fresh paint
- New Yokohomo rubber with BBS rims

Car is clean and done right. He paid $12 and has dumped 40K into it. Asking 30 grand.

What do you all think? Thanks

I think that is a bit steep for the car, even with all of the mods.

As a seller, you can't expect to recover even 50 cents on the invested dollar in your mods....

Just my two cents as a former E30 M3 owner. You might also want to bounce this question off of the E30 M3 SIG list.

Bill

Thanks. All mods have less than 4k miles on it. Chassis has 123K. This guy planned on keeping it forever, but is in financial trouble and has to sell. Then engine alone was 25k with labor!!!

ya...i would say 20 tops

I've seen in other forums proper 2.5L conversion goes for ~$15k. $25k for this motor seems on the high side.. but then it depends on the time/attention to the details.

It was done flwalessly. Assuming so, what is a reasonable offer? Thanks.

30k is too much.

I sold a similar car (Cheeca built 2.5) prepped for the track for less than $16k.

For me ~$20k, maybe $22k max. Personal preference plays a big factor here for high $$ car.

Cheers.

www.s14.net

Thanks. All mods have less than 4k miles on it. Chassis has 123K. This guy planned on keeping it forever, but is in financial trouble and has to sell. Then engine alone was 25k with labor!!!
If he's strapped for cash you should be able to negotiate it down

25k on a motor, do people know no limits?

Offer him 25k, no more

Yup. 9 for the motor and 16 in labor. Owner has dumped a good 40K into this thing and it shows. Gorgeous car inside and out. Would kick ass on the track but it is too pretty to risk it getting dorked up.

30k is too much.

I sold a similar car (Cheeca built 2.5) prepped for the track for less than $16k.

I was trying to buy your car :D , too bad it sold so fast, that car was beautiful.

I think I've seen this 30k car on autotrader, he's asking quite a bit, and what do you plan on using the car for, just track? That motor seems like a bit much for a street driven car.

You also have to remember that the value on these cars is dependent on what people are willing to spend. To some people that car is worth 7k, to others it might be worth his asking price.

I planned on using it for a toy on Sundays. Keep it mint and just drive it once in awhile.

i wish i had 30k to drop on a car that i was only going to drive once in a while.

Is this that one that is for sale around my area. It's silver? And in the Orange County area?

I planned on using it for a toy on Sundays. Keep it mint and just drive it once in awhile.

if its what you want and you can afford it then why not buy it?

Is this that one that is for sale around my area. It's silver? And in the Orange County area?


Yes, what can u tell me about it? What do you think? Worth $25k.

All the body panels have the VIN sticker on them? :devillook

All the body panels have the VIN sticker on them? :devillook


Yup.

Very nice car then! :redspot

Very nice car then! :redspot

What are you thinking it is realistically worth? Purchase price . . .?

20k with no pictures

25k if it's as clean as you say it is (I cannot tell since I cannot see it)

I just got $20k for a near stock car with 60k in very nice condition after only 2 weeks on the market

Roadfly ad (http://www.roadfly.org/bmw/classifieds/cars/detview.php?view=30881&sortby=&dir=)

apparently I initally set my sights too low ... :devillook

somebody offered me $15k immediately after posting it on the SIG and I almost took it :corkysm59

amazing car.

20k with no pictures

25k if it's as clean as you say it is (I cannot tell since I cannot see it)

I offered him 25k and he came back with 28k as a counter. Too rich for my blood! He may cave in a few weeks.

I just got $20k for a near stock car with 60k in very nice condition after only 2 weeks on the market

Roadfly ad (http://www.roadfly.org/bmw/classifieds/cars/detview.php?view=30881&sortby=&dir=)

apparently I initally set my sights too low ... :devillook

somebody offered me $15k immediately after posting it on the SIG and I almost took it :corkysm59

Gorgeous example!

25k is a good price just think it will be worth this much to someone down the road if you take care of it which we all know you will. I would go as high a 26.5k tops ultimate tops though. If it is as nice as you say.

TeamZ4, thats absolutely the most beautiful example I've seen in a while.

Where does that car live now?

thanks for the kind words

supposdly in the Kansas City area

I would never buy a car that has been raced, modded... and 30k, i'd put that 30k down on a house..

I would never buy a car that has been raced, modded... and 30k, i'd put that 30k down on a house..
Brilliance... :rolleyes

Very pretty car! Wish I could get it! :devillook

Is this the car this thread was originally about?

http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=180101338

whose is it?

Is this the car this thread was originally about?

http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=180101338

whose is it?


Yes, what do you think?

25 tops...

Wow!! For that kind of money, there is some really nice supercharged E36 M3's floating around that will smoke the E30 cars, and you can do it with the air on and the 10000 stereo system pumping. I love the E30 M3 but man you can get a lot more power for your money if you step up to a supercharged E36 pushing over 350 HP!!

25 tops...

Guy called back and is now ready to deal at 25k. That tells me they have no offers. Although he has invested a ton of money -- it has to be worth it to someone. For a car like this, super clean, with a ton of mods -- what would a monthly budget be just to keep it in primo running condition?

Thanks.

Yeah i wouldnt pay anywhere near 25k. Shoulda bought my friends. He ended up selling it for 10k because he needed to sell that weekend because he is moving. Thing was clean. Put it this way. There was very little wrong with it and it had a 12k dollar stroker motor in it and it sold for 10k. I doubt there are many out there worth 25k

The only cars that are going for the mid 20's and up, are stock low mileage perfect cars. I know of several that have recently sold in the 23-26 range, but they have been stock cars, with maybe a few bolt on mods (wheels, chip, filter), nothing severe, but all the cars have had under 55K on the clocks. A molested car like you have described is worth as much as someone is willing to pay, but have little value to collectors, who are really starting to drive the market up on the cars like I described.

The only cars that are going for the mid 20's and up, are stock low mileage perfect cars. I know of several that have recently sold in the 23-26 range, but they have been stock cars, with maybe a few bolt on mods (wheels, chip, filter), nothing severe, but all the cars have had under 55K on the clocks. A molested car like you have described is worth as much as someone is willing to pay, but have little value to collectors, who are really starting to drive the market up on the cars like I described.
My car was molested. But by a bunch of hill billys. :(

If he's strapped for cash you should be able to negotiate it down

....... maybe.
But thats no different then kicking a man/woman while there down.

If thats your thinking, I have some oceanfront property in Kansas I'd like to sell you. :stickoutt

If thats your thinking, I have some oceanfront property in Kansas I'd like to sell you. :stickoutt

I feel sorry for you, that you live in Florida.... especially this time of the year- hurricanes, shark attacks, etc. :lol

Where in OC is it? I'll go look at it and let you guys know what its really like.

last post on this thread was in July of 05. It's probably not for sale anymore.

That is extremely expensive, one thing every individual modifying their car should understand is the complete inability for you to get anywhere near your money back. Granted that this guy put a grand total of 52K into this car and he is only asking 30K. This is nowhere near market value. If the seller were smart he would be parting the car out, understandably he is in debt and needs to get some quick cash. Which makes me question the validity of the 40K worth of investments. How does one spend a grand total of 25K on an engine? If this individuals goal was merely to get a hold of a lightweight N/A powerful engine for a given dollar figure, then there are cheaper solutions. Just ask yourself "If this engine were to be built from scratch and sold on an open market, would anybody really pay 25K for it?" Maybe it is just me being naive, it is possible that there is a niche market someplace out there with people willing to give up a years worth of work for a finely tuned engine. But it doesn't seem likely.