View Full Version : Valve Cover Gasket & Hi-Temp RTV


joekannooks
04-27-2005, 09:07 AM
I changed the valve cover gasket and used some hi-temp silicone. On the block-side, I used a 1/16" - 1/8" bead around bolt holes, corners, and the half-moon areas.

On the valver cover-side, I used a 1/16" - 1/8" bead on the entire mating surface since the surface wasn't entirely smooth.

I noticed some squeeze-out of the silicone on the outside and expect some on the inside.

Should I redo the damn thing minus the additional silicone???

This has me worried (http://groups.msn.com/ChevroletNova/restotips.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=6910&LastModified=4675516539560741908)

Btw, this is for an e34 525iT w/ an M50. Thanks.

fast4d
04-27-2005, 10:24 AM
RTV on VCs?

shouldn't they be installed dry?

hopefully your oil pump won't starve from the RTV floating around in the oil pan.

kosta
04-27-2005, 10:30 AM
According to the bentley, it says to use some type of adhesive around the half moon areas

it didnt say rtv however

joekannooks
04-27-2005, 10:33 AM
RTV on VCs?

shouldn't they be installed dry?

hopefully your oil pump won't starve from the RTV floating around in the oil pan.

It's recommended to use some... guess I was paranoid and overzealous. I haven't started the engine yet so nothing to worry about at this point. Looks like a do-over to me though. Great, what fun.

joekannooks
04-27-2005, 11:11 AM
According to the bentley, it says to use some type of adhesive around the half moon areas

it didnt say rtv however
This is what I used:
http://www.autoaccessconnect.com/pehirtvsigam.html

joekannooks
04-27-2005, 11:15 AM
This is what I used:
http://www.autoaccessconnect.com/pehirtvsigam.html
Ha, and what I <b>SHOULD</b> have used (it didn't specify a temp rating on package, so I didn't get it):
http://www.autoaccessconnect.com/pesesablrtvs.html

according to:
http://www.unofficialbmw.com/all/engine/all_o2sensor.html ("What will damage my...")

HansundFranz
04-27-2005, 12:47 PM
You shouldn't use any sealant at all, except in the corners of the half moons.

I forget what I use is called, it's gray and not RTV.

fast4d
04-27-2005, 01:26 PM
high temp RTV is orange/copper color. use that on exhuast.

for intake, VC, etc use blue, black or gray. sometimes an adhesive helps keep the gasket in place during assembly. I forgot the name but it comes in a can with a brush and smells like cherry cough medicine.

rhaas
04-27-2005, 01:55 PM
You shouldn't use any sealant at all, except in the corners of the half moons.

I forget what I use is called, it's gray and not RTV.

Do you mean Permatex Ultra Grey?

http://www.permatex.com/auto/autouh.asp?automotive=yes&f_call=get_item&item_no=82194

This is what I used and it seemed to work well.

joekannooks
04-27-2005, 02:04 PM
high temp RTV is orange/copper color. use that on exhuast.

for intake, VC, etc use blue, black or gray. sometimes an adhesive helps keep the gasket in place during assembly. I forgot the name but it comes in a can with a brush and smells like cherry cough medicine.
For exhaust, you're referring to this right?
http://www.autoaccessconnect.com/peulcohirtvs.html
Although IIRC it's still recommended to use an actual metal gasket (or none at all) there.

Adhesive? Brush Tack?

I believe for a valve cover, blue (sensor safe) is the way to go.

Permatex makes a specific sealant for waterpumps/thermostats (it's also gray).

There should be a "which silicone where" thread...

Casebrius
04-28-2005, 04:45 PM
I wouldn't stress over it, if it comes loose the worst it could do is get caught in the oil filter.

bmwperson
04-28-2005, 07:50 PM
^ I did 2 valve cover changes and on both I used the black silicone (same brand as yours) It works well, I dont get any problems and the block is perfectly dry (20k since I did it)

Tom