What are the differences between the two cars?

I was told that they're very similar using similar motors.

Does suspension for a 2002 fit on a 1602?

I came accross this ad thats seems like a pretty good deal.. and this is the first time I've ever heard of a 1602... So I'm assuming that it's a lot harder to find parts for this car..


Enlighten me please!! :help :help :help

from what I know the 1602 has a smaller engine -- 1.6 litre. I think it shares a lot of features with early 02s. Is it a good deal? If the body is in good shape you can probably make a nice runner out of it using 02/320 parts.
I'm sure some gurus here will be able to tell you a lot more.

What year is it? Early ones were called 1600's , at least in the US, and in addition to the smaller engine it had additional differences.

Mechanically the brakes were smaller and the clutch was mechanical instead of hydraulic, among other things. Parts for these different systems might be harder to get.

All in all, 1600's are great cars just like 2002's. If the car is in good condition, go for it! There are quite a few still around and owners seem to be even more fanatical than us 2 liter owners.

owners seem to be even more fanatical than us 2 liter owners.
I wouldn't go that far!

The car appears to be pretty clean in the pictures. I'll be checking it out tomorrow morning. The ad says 87000 original miles with no rust nor accidents. He's asking $2,000 for it. It's a 1969 1602.

pics here: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/honda_accord1984/my_photos


I'm just kinda scared that parts will be too hard to get... in addition to prices being significantly higher due to this.

I sure how you like/know how to: fix interiors, do engine work, and love bodywork... The only thing that car has going (from those pics) is the lack or rust, which is always a plus... Also, I think that US never got 1602's only 1600s, it could be a grey market car possibly...

I sure how you like/know how to: fix interiors, do engine work, and love bodywork... The only thing that car has going (from those pics) is the lack or rust, which is always a plus... Also, I think that US never got 1602's only 1600s, it could be a grey market car possibly...

I thought the interior was pretty decent.. Are there any particularly tough interior restoratoin parts for these cars? And can you point out to me what was so bad? How about the body work? Seemed like the car just needs some paint.. but I suck at doing body work stuff anyways.


And what does it mean to be a grey market car? Like fake or illegal?

my '69 1600 doesn't have the side marker reflectors, front or rear. not sure when they added them, though. replacement fenders or markers added later? the 1602 badge is easy to remedy with a replacement 1600 badge if needed.

Grey market just means it might have been imported by someone personally, rather than through a dealership. A lot of military guys bought cars in Germany and shipped them home kind of thing. Nothing wrong with them at all, its just that they may have euro specs rather than US specs -- especially for emissions or bumpers or similar things. Nothing to worry about on such an old car (you wouldn't have to change anything to make it legal to drive as far as I know)

-z

I thought the interior was pretty decent.. Are there any particularly tough interior restoratoin parts for these cars? And can you point out to me what was so bad? How about the body work? Seemed like the car just needs some paint.. but I suck at doing body work stuff anyways.
The reason I said 'fix the interior' is that the carpet is kinda dirty, worn, and other parts are reaching the end of their life. The one thing I really like on the interior, though, is the door panels. It is an early car, so it will be most likely to be worth more in the long, at least in my opinion. You asked about how hard it is to get new interior, it actually is not a horrible thing to replace, just some time and some money and there are already many options if you would like a sportier interior.

The exterior however is a lot more expensive to fix. If you know how to properly detail a car and this car does not have many dings and they are small if they are there, then you will be okay. These pics are a little too small to see if the car has any unsightly marks on the exterior.

The engine will be in as good of shape as this previous owner has left it, so it depends on how well he took care of it. There are also many options if you want to make it go fast, so open up the wallet and dump it in the 1602!!!

Personally from all of this, I would say take a look in person at this car and make sure it has VERY little rust, and keep an eye out for 2002's since they have greater displacement and tend to be more prevalent in the general 2002 population even though a swap from 1602-->2002 is very simple and straight-forward.

And what does it mean to be a grey market car? Like fake or illegal?
It is legal as 74tii has mentioned so you are good there. :)

Awesome! Thanks for all the help guys.

You guys have been a lot of help already!

I'm also going to go look at an 02 tomorrow that seems to be fairly clean, although the owner says the car needs, "paint and upholstery"


Thanks again!

I've been doing some research, and it seems that the 2002 and 1600 body's are pretty much the same...

so with that, can anyone confirm that 02 body parts will fit on 1600?(such as fender flares)

I've been doing some research, and it seems that the 2002 and 1600 body's are pretty much the same...

so with that, can anyone confirm that 02 body parts will fit on 1600?(such as fender flares)
That's correct, all body parts are all the same on 1600's and 2002's.

I'm also going to go look at an 02 tomorrow that seems to be fairly clean, although the owner says the car needs, "paint and upholstery"
paint and upholstery is much better than rust and engine-work... :buttrock

OK! So I only got a chance to look at the 1600 today.. There were a bunch of reports of rain, so I didn't want to drive out to barely be able to check out the car.

The car ran pretty well.. Started up really easily despite it being cold. It seemed kinda peppy as well. I did not floor it, and had no clue when to shift due to the lack of a tachometer. Interior was pretty decent, and I coulnd't really find much rust. There were little spots of surface rust here and there, but I don't think that it's that big of a deal.. is it?

One thing did concern me though.. when decelerating in gear, there was this big like vibration. It wasn't big enough to rattle the whole car but it was as if something was rubbing against something else ... it seemed to come from the front passenger side.. but I'm really not sure.. Any clue what this could be?

There was some slightly heavier(compared to surface rust) in the area below the headlights.. Is that a big problem? The rust didn't seem to be that bad. No rust around the battery area, nor the shock towers. Some surface type rust in the spare wheel compartment though.. Also found a few drops of water collecting there too... So I'm assuming that there's a leak somewhere since it was raining last night and this morning. I forgot to look in the wheel wells though.. doh!!

Body was pretty straight.. all the parts seemed to line up pretty good, and couldnt find any dings. The car just needs paint badly.

The driver side's seat was all tore up.. What alternatives do I have for this? I've seen the use of those old Recaro's from 320i's, but this interior is tan.

I did lift up the driver side floor pan's carpet and didn't find any rust there.


I'll be gone all weekend to Laguna Seca, but I did ask the guy to hold the car for me.
Next time I go out, I'll most likely purchse the car(unless you guys give me strong indications that this car is no good).

Next time I need to remember to check: wheel wells, if lights and other electrical stuff work, and what else???

EDIT: Will suspension pieces from a 02(such as aftermarket shocks/springs or coilovers) fit on the 1600?

That vibration could be the flex disc -- or 'shimmy bisquit' as my buddy calls them. If so its not a huge deal to swap out. The vibration could also be the exhaust rattling at a certain RPM -- how did the exhaust look? Next time get under the car and check that out.

Good news on the spare tire compartment -- that is a horrible place for rust. Those tires are known to fall completely out -- so if there is only surface there you are in good shape