just wondering if anyone here saw of, or had, any incidents with anyone or any other cars at bimmerfest?

any accidents (i know there was one white e36 that found itself in a ditch...)?

tell me about it, if you did.

a red euro m roadster got pulled over on the norcal caravan for weaving in and out of cones right infront of a CHP officer, they got off with a small ticket though. Also like you said a white e36 is probaly totaled from sliding into a curb on the freeway. I heard also someone hit the center divide trying to avoid someone who was weaving on the freeway in a LSB m3.

a red euro m roadster got pulled over on the norcal caravan for weaving in and out of cones right infront of a CHP officer, they got off with a small ticket though. Also like you said a white e36 is probaly totaled from sliding into a curb on the freeway. I heard also someone hit the center divide trying to avoid someone who was weaving on the freeway in a LSB m3.
was that in the norcal caravan headed home or to SB?

and what time did you guys leave for SB? musta been pretty early...

that was going to SB, we met at gilroy around 730 and left at 830 on friday morning.

I saw a guy in a Dakar yellow m3 get rolled on the way to the cruise

I saw a guy in a Dakar yellow m3 get rolled on the way to the cruise
ouch... thank god it wasn't ty

I was inches away front rear ending RedV and getting smashed from behind by a semi..... I literally started sweating when I saw it coming up in my rear view when I was mashing my brakes for all they were worth.

Did anyone happen to see or have pics/footage of a silver ///M coupe cutting off a semi, blasting across the dirt, and almost sideswiping an Estoril and another red bimmer on the Hope Ave exit in the morning? If so, show please! If not... just as good. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/Hitokiri_StarReaver/Random/icon_ninja.gif

Yeah... Guy got a ticket for Autocrossing the construction zone hhaaha... Well it was nice seing you guys again. If I saw you but didnt say watsup sorry... You suck j/p Oh yeah JP nice seing you again bro take it easy.

But yeah people including myself were getting ready to rain down on that idiot with the Gripspeed stickers for trying to whip it in the lookout area during the Post Bimmerfest drive.

Oh yeah Sat night at Holiday inn... A couple of latina chicks were skinny dippin in the pool.

I almost got into two accidents on the way home, both of which were not my fault.

1) I was driving down the lane when a 18 wheeler decides that he doesnt want to exit or it is the wrong one and not only does he cut into my lane and he is at the point where he shouldnt legally be allowed to cross but he also doesnt signal. I get literally 1 foot away from the back of his trailor thing before hitting it, I was so glad my ABS kicked in and worked. I bet he probably either would of just kept going too with his type of attitude or wouldnt of even felt it.

2) Nearing home someone starts turning into my lane when I was right next to him and I had to swerve into the carpool lane (good thing there were no cars in it at the time near me) to avoid him. As soon as it was clear I went back out and he acted like nothing happened.

Oh yeah JP nice seing you again bro take it easy.
it was a pleasure! unfortunantly, now that i'm back in socal- it will probably be few and far between :(

i did see you pulling around the dealership when everyone was leaving... i pointed your car out to meg and she said "how do you know its your friends?" :rofl

i tried to explain how every car is slightly different... she just didnt get it

it was a pleasure! unfortunantly, now that i'm back in socal- it will probably be few and far between :(

i did see you pulling around the dealership when everyone was leaving... i pointed your car out to meg and she said "how do you know its your friends?" :rofl

i tried to explain how every car is slightly different... she just didnt get it

Yeah hahah you two take it easy and good luck with everything down there.

Yeah hahah you two take it easy and good luck with everything down there.
will do!

i am coming back up to the bay probably early may to pick up some more stuff i left behind... i'll hit you up before i do.

i have to pick up a bunch of food i left at the poolhouse :rofl (all the non-perishable stuff) and also my mtn bike and motorbike is at BayercheE38's house...

didnt have room for the bikes in the big truck :(

I saw the Accident involving the Malibu or Taurus hit the center divider on the caravan up to SB from LA. I looked in my rear view and i see it happen. All i see is the car go sideways like its powersliding, and then bam into the center median. Didnt look taht bad though, id say a maybe 10-20 mph hit at most. I dont know how it happened i only saw it happen from my rear view. i know we had come to some extremem braking right before it happened, and i was worried the lifted green F150 would hit me.

I saw the Accident involving the Malibu or Taurus hit the center divider on the caravan up to SB from LA. I looked in my rear view and i see it happen. All i see is the car go sideways like its powersliding, and then bam into the center median. Didnt look taht bad though, id say a maybe 10-20 mph hit at most. I dont know how it happened i only saw it happen from my rear view. i know we had come to some extremem braking right before it happened, and i was worried the lifted green F150 would hit me.
hmm....

i wonder if that malibu is the same.... :paranoid:

I got rear ended by some guy behind me in a white e30. No scratches or dents though! :)

a red euro m roadster got pulled over on the norcal caravan for weaving in and out of cones right infront of a CHP officer, they got off with a small ticket though. Also like you said a white e36 is probaly totaled from sliding into a curb on the freeway. I heard also someone hit the center divide trying to avoid someone who was weaving on the freeway in a LSB m3.

If anyone out there knows these people (or other people doing dumb stuff on the road rally), feel free to kick their @ss - and then tell why you're doing it.

That's the kind of stuff that can give the event a bad reputation and end the road rally for good. After years of trying to convince the Roundel and chief editor Satch Carlson that Bimmerfest was an event worth covering, he finally attended this year. I sure hope he didn't see much of that crap and leave thinking that his first instincts about Bimmerfest had been right all along.

:(

If anyone out there knows these people (or other people doing dumb stuff on the road rally), feel free to kick their @ss - and then tell why you're doing it.

That's the kind of stuff that can give the event a bad reputation and end the road rally for good. After years of trying to convince the Roundel and chief editor Satch Carlson that Bimmerfest was an event worth covering, he finally attended this year. I sure hope he didn't see much of that crap and leave thinking that his first instints about Bimmerfest had right all along.

:(
i hope not too...

talking with jon shafer... i think next year is going to be even better! :buttrock

i hope not too...

talking with jon shafer... i think next year is going to be even better! :buttrock

Hopefully - but as Bimmerfest gets bigger, things that happen are going to reach a wider audience. For example, Bimmerfest made the Grand Am Cup Racing news articles. And now that it's not just a small group of people that know each other getting together, you never know who is going to be there as a guest/participant.

Like an off duty CHP that had this to say:

"This was definitely the last road rallye that I will participate in. The amount of stupidity behind the wheel was more than I can bear. I would like to thank the 330 that passed me using the right shoulder and throwing rocks and debris all over my car which has recently been painted. I work hard for my money, put alot of time and effort and more money into my cars and this is what I get. See you all in the parking lot next year but not on the road."

I hope he sees that same 330 driving on the highway somewhere and nails him for doing something stupid. And you think the whole CHP won't find out about these 'incidents'?

Sorry to rant, but I just don't get it. I don't get how a few people just can't be adults and go along with the program (of trying to disprove the public stereotype of BMW drivers) for a couple of days (and we are talking about a few as most 'festers behave very well on the highways). And how they can be so stupid - the CHP and local authorities know the event is going on. It's not like we're sneaking up on anybody.

:(

Hopefully - but as Bimmerfest gets bigger, things that happen are going to reach a wider audience. For example, Bimmerfest made the Grand Am Cup Racing news articles. And now that it's not just a small group of people that know each other getting together, you never know who is going to be there as a guest/participant.

Like an off duty CHP that had this to say:

"This was definitely the last road rallye that I will participate in. The amount of stupidity behind the wheel was more than I can bear. I would like to thank the 330 that passed me using the right shoulder and throwing rocks and debris all over my car which has recently been painted. I work hard for my money, put alot of time and effort and more money into my cars and this is what I get. See you all in the parking lot next year but not on the road."

I hope he sees that same 330 driving on the highway somewhere and nails him for doing something stupid. And you think the whole CHP won't find out about these 'incidents'?

Sorry to rant, but I just don't get it. I don't get how a few people just can't be adults and go along with the program (of trying to disprove the public stereotype of BMW drivers) for a couple of days (and we are talking about a few as most 'festers behave very well on the highways). And how they can be so stupid - the CHP and local authorities know the event is going on. It's not like we're sneaking up on anybody.

:(
you must not have noticed that the majority of the most insanely modded e46 m3's were driven by 19 year olds...

kids and their daddy's money...

Oh yeah Sat night at Holiday inn... A couple of latina chicks were skinny dippin in the pool.

Shut up!!! In carpinteria!?!??!? I was there... please dont tell me it was in that hotel :mad !!

That white E36 was Ian, one of the AZBMW guys. He had a wheel shipped overnight to cali so that his car would be in tip top shape for the show. On the cruise, some idiot in an E46 cut him off and he was forced to swerve into the median. The right front suspension snapped and sent him sailing into the ditch. What happened was bull shit. All the guys who just got back were talking about what was lost during the trip.

PS. I hope Ian get's his car back into running and clean looking shape again. (they think it's totalled)

That white E36 was Ian, one of the AZBMW guys. He had a wheel shipped overnight to cali so that his car would be in tip top shape for the show. On the cruise, some idiot in an E46 cut him off and he was forced to swerve into the median. The right front suspension snapped and sent him sailing into the ditch. What happened was bull shit. All the guys who just got back were talking about what was lost during the trip.

PS. I hope Ian get's his car back into running and clean looking shape again. (they think it's totalled)
So is this genious E46 driver a member of our forum --and did he offer to pay Ian's way back home?

That white E36 was Ian, one of the AZBMW guys. He had a wheel shipped overnight to cali so that his car would be in tip top shape for the show. On the cruise, some idiot in an E46 cut him off and he was forced to swerve into the median. The right front suspension snapped and sent him sailing into the ditch. What happened was bull shit. All the guys who just got back were talking about what was lost during the trip.

PS. I hope Ian get's his car back into running and clean looking shape again. (they think it's totalled)


Im guessing this LSBM3 is gonna be found and dealt with maybe? :mad

So is this genious E46 driver a member of our forum --and did he offer to pay Ian's way back home?


I think he left the scene... thats what I over heard on the radios atleast :az

I must say that there was some stuff going on that, I've never seen in past years :(

Im guessing this LSBM3 is gonna be found and dealt with maybe? :mad
I think he needs to be. It's bad enough that someone got taken out and could have been seriously injured, but to be taken out by one of our own with no apology or remorse? unacceptable.

After years of trying to convince the Roundel and chief editor Satch Carlson that Bimmerfest was an event worth covering, he finally attended this year. I sure hope he didn't see much of that crap and leave thinking that his first instincts about Bimmerfest had been right all along.

:(
I was walking back to my car (parked on the lot) and I saw a guy and a woman checking out my seats. My boyfriend and I started talking to them for awhile and it turns out he was Satch Carlson. He seemed really interested in my car and myself, and even gave me his email. Coolio. :cool

He seemed really interested in my car and myself, and even gave me his email. Coolio. :cool

Of course he was!! You have bascially modded/improved every aspect of your car --I can think of threads you've made talking about everything from headliners to steering racks. And the fact that you do all this stuff yourself, and are so knowlegeable at a young age makes you very interesting to a jounalist/enthusiast like Satch. ;)

330 driver... what an asshole
and like you said.. word gets out to chp all around cali, so that might be the breaking point, as when you get pulled over, whether the cop is going to be cool with you or not.

330 driver... what an asshole
and like you said.. word gets out to chp all around cali, so that might be the breaking point, as when you get pulled over, whether the cop is going to be cool with you or not.
and this could affect us as drivers, not just during bimmerfest, but outside of that too...

I was walking back to my car (parked on the lot) and I saw a guy and a woman checking out my seats. My boyfriend and I started talking to them for awhile and it turns out he was Satch Carlson. He seemed really interested in my car and myself, and even gave me his email. Coolio. :cool

Ah,can I check out your seats too?..J/K. :)

quoted from teh land of e30

whoever wasn't there missed seeing an E36 get seriously airborne while trying to do one of the most jackass moves I've ever seen on a freeway. Hope they're OK, but they almost collected about 20 other cars on the way out...

:shock: Care to elaborate?

On the really, there was a highway we were supposed to take off the 101...the CHP had a new M3 and 645 pulled over, and we were all paying attention to them, so this giant chunk of us missed the turnoff. On the 101, every few hundred yards it has those left turn lanes that dive off into cutouts through the center median so people can turn around, since the exits are so few and far between. When this guy in the E36, who was in the RIGHT lane, realized he missed the turn like all of us, he cut off the car to his left (we were all doing 70) by a few inches trying to get to one of the cutoffs. Put simply, there was no fucking way he was ever gonna make it into there. He couldn't brake till he had maybe 50 feet of pavement left, and there was another car sitting in the cutoff waiting to turn around, and there was oncoming traffic in the other lanes, and he was FUCKED. He was probably still doing 40-45 when he ran over the foot-high slanted curb that surrounds the median, and yes, that was just as dramatic as it sounds. That car made the worst sound I've ever heard a car make (I think he must have given himself the "shaved oilpan" mod), and I saw about 4 feet of daylight and shrubbery under the car til it remembered how much it weighed and dumped back onto the ground, scattering dirt, weeds and broken pieces of Germany's finest all over the damn place. blew the bodywork on the front end apart pretty good, and i'll bet that wasn't the end of it (see above mod comment).

If he'd have clipped the car that he cut off, that one would've t-boned the other car waiting in the cutoff and sent it out into oncoming traffic, and we all woulda had a real mess on our hands...

he hadn't even hit the curb yet when I started wondering how he was going to explain all of this to the insurance company.

Originally Posted by Kristuphir
On the really, there was a highway we were supposed to take off the 101...the CHP had a new M3 and 645 pulled over, and we were all paying attention to them, so this giant chunk of us missed the turnoff. On the 101, every few hundred yards it has those left turn lanes that dive off into cutouts through the center median so people can turn around, since the exits are so few and far between. When this guy in the E36, who was in the RIGHT lane, realized he missed the turn like all of us, he cut off the car to his left (we were all doing 70) by a few inches trying to get to one of the cutoffs. Put simply, there was no fucking way he was ever gonna make it into there. He couldn't brake till he had maybe 50 feet of pavement left, and there was another car sitting in the cutoff waiting to turn around, and there was oncoming traffic in the other lanes, and he was FUCKED. He was probably still doing 40-45 when he ran over the foot-high slanted curb that surrounds the median, and yes, that was just as dramatic as it sounds. That car made the worst sound I've ever heard a car make (I think he must have given himself the "shaved oilpan" mod), and I saw about 4 feet of daylight and shrubbery under the car til it remembered how much it weighed and dumped back onto the ground, scattering dirt, weeds and broken pieces of Germany's finest all over the damn place. blew the bodywork on the front end apart pretty good, and i'll bet that wasn't the end of it (see above mod comment).

If he'd have clipped the car that he cut off, that one would've t-boned the other car waiting in the cutoff and sent it out into oncoming traffic, and we all woulda had a real mess on our hands...

he hadn't even hit the curb yet when I started wondering how he was going to explain all of this to the insurance company.

best description ever!!

so is this the same white e36... that was "allegedly" cut off by the LSB e46 m3?

best description ever!!

so is this the same white e36... that was "allegedly" cut off by the LSB e46 m3?

That's what I am wondering... there are now 2 white E36 incidents that sound like different stories...

didn't see any.

Of course he was!! You have bascially modded/improved every aspect of your car --I can think of threads you've made talking about everything from headliners to steering racks. And the fact that you do all this stuff yourself, and are so knowlegeable at a young age makes you very interesting to a jounalist/enthusiast like Satch. ;)
Thanks. :) Whatever happened to your plans of coming out? I was expecting to see you. :az
Ah,can I check out your seats too?..J/K. :)
You had your chance, the E36 is now retiring into the garage until next Bimmerfest. :rolleyes

If this CHP guy lets one incident spoil his moment then he shouldnt go to any car events. He should know as a CHP Officer there are always 1 or 2. :nono

94is-kim , I loved your car at bmfest. So fresh and so clean clean.

I didn't really see any bad driving. The people I drove around were curtious and drove at a nice safe rate of speed the whole time. I loved it.

Thanks. :) Whatever happened to your plans of coming out? I was expecting to see you. :az


I was verrrry close to driving out --BabyM got waxed and everything but the correlated plans fell through :( (I was trying to combine this trip with a couple otehr things to make it 'legitimate')

And though I am the queen of drive-through-the-night-roadtrips across the country 30 hours each way for a meet was a little too much even for me ;)

I should be out to CA again in the near future and I will definitely give you a heads up!

Shut up!!! In carpinteria!?!??!? I was there... please dont tell me it was in that hotel :mad !!

nah it was in goleta... right next to best western... I was like damn I was starting to get ASSthma.

What I didnt like was that silver S54 on the drive over taking people on the left and spraying people with rocks. Or that Black E36 Gripspeed car being a dumb fuk trying to do donuts in the look out area. He was prolly thinking that everyone thought he was cool because everyone was looking at him... In actuality everyone was looking at him just incase he hits one of the cars they would beat his ass... I mean damn what asian wears a Do-rag? str8 gangsta nigguh...

What I didnt like was that silver S54 on the drive over taking people on the left and spraying people with rocks. Or that Black E36 Gripspeed car being a dumb fuk trying to do donuts in the look out area. He was prolly thinking that everyone thought he was cool because everyone was looking at him... In actuality everyone was looking at him just incase he hits one of the cars they would beat his ass... I mean damn what asian wears a Do-rag? str8 gangsta nigguh...

straight out of taipei, bitch

I think he left the scene... thats what I over heard on the radios atleast :az

Yeah that was totaly weak!! Ian was sooo bumed he just stayed in the hotel room all night. :(

we really gotta figure out this white e36 mystery... :confused

we really gotta figure out this white e36 mystery... :confused

I heard of the Estoril blue M3 or something like that doing donuts and almost hitting a bunch of cars and then almost hitting the guard rail.

What I didnt like was that silver S54 on the drive over taking people on the left and spraying people with rocks. Or that Black E36 Gripspeed car being a dumb fuk trying to do donuts in the look out area. He was prolly thinking that everyone thought he was cool because everyone was looking at him... In actuality everyone was looking at him just incase he hits one of the cars they would beat his ass... I mean damn what asian wears a Do-rag? str8 gangsta nigguh...

Yeah I was near the bottom of the "on" ramp as he turned left. We saw that and were just waiting for him to crash then ready to pull him out of his car and beat his @ss. I mean what kind of sh!t was that??? This isn't some hot import night's event featuring the drifting idiot....If you guys only knew how close he was to going to jail....just minutes before there was a chp car parked to the right of the "off" ramp for a good 10 minutes+ just making sure everyone was fine and not doing anything stupid.

Well anyways was a great event and hopefully no one got hurt.. I did hear about that accident with the white m3 and I heard that the guy who caused it DID leave the scene.....

On the really, there was a highway we were supposed to take off the 101...the CHP had a new M3 and 645 pulled over, and we were all paying attention to them, so this giant chunk of us missed the turnoff. On the 101, every few hundred yards it has those left turn lanes that dive off into cutouts through the center median so people can turn around, since the exits are so few and far between. When this guy in the E36, who was in the RIGHT lane, realized he missed the turn like all of us, he cut off the car to his left (we were all doing 70) by a few inches trying to get to one of the cutoffs. Put simply, there was no fucking way he was ever gonna make it into there. He couldn't brake till he had maybe 50 feet of pavement left, and there was another car sitting in the cutoff waiting to turn around, and there was oncoming traffic in the other lanes, and he was FUCKED. He was probably still doing 40-45 when he ran over the foot-high slanted curb that surrounds the median, and yes, that was just as dramatic as it sounds. That car made the worst sound I've ever heard a car make (I think he must have given himself the "shaved oilpan" mod), and I saw about 4 feet of daylight and shrubbery under the car til it remembered how much it weighed and dumped back onto the ground, scattering dirt, weeds and broken pieces of Germany's finest all over the damn place. blew the bodywork on the front end apart pretty good, and i'll bet that wasn't the end of it (see above mod comment).

If he'd have clipped the car that he cut off, that one would've t-boned the other car waiting in the cutoff and sent it out into oncoming traffic, and we all woulda had a real mess on our hands...

he hadn't even hit the curb yet when I started wondering how he was going to explain all of this to the insurance company.

Yeah I was near the bottom of the "on" ramp as he turned left. We saw that and were just waiting for him to crash then ready to pull him out of his car and beat his @ss. I mean what kind of sh!t was that??? This isn't some hot import night's event featuring the drifting idiot....If you guys only knew how close he was to going to jail....just minutes before there was a chp car parked to the right of the "off" ramp for a good 10 minutes+ just making sure everyone was fine and not doing anything stupid.

Well anyways was a great event and hopefully no one got hurt.. I did hear about that accident with the white m3 and I heard that the guy who caused it DID leave the scene.....

SO, are these two seperate incidents, or is one of them not quite the exact story?

SO, are these two seperate incidents, or is one of them not quite the exact story?

The first part of the message referred to the guys who were peeling out doing (doing donuts) just off the offramp under the freeway at the first meeting point......between the rows of parked bmws with people in the streets :nono taking pictures of the other cars.

The picture was one i found of the incident with the m3 but over heard a friend of the guy who crashed say the guy who caused the accident didnt stop and split.

Ive kept on hearing the LSB cut off the Alpine M3... over and over.

On the really, there was a highway we were supposed to take off the 101...the CHP had a new M3 and 645 pulled over, and we were all paying attention to them, so this giant chunk of us missed the turnoff. On the 101, every few hundred yards it has those left turn lanes that dive off into cutouts through the center median so people can turn around, since the exits are so few and far between. When this guy in the E36, who was in the RIGHT lane, realized he missed the turn like all of us, he cut off the car to his left (we were all doing 70) by a few inches trying to get to one of the cutoffs. Put simply, there was no fucking way he was ever gonna make it into there. He couldn't brake till he had maybe 50 feet of pavement left, and there was another car sitting in the cutoff waiting to turn around, and there was oncoming traffic in the other lanes, and he was FUCKED. He was probably still doing 40-45 when he ran over the foot-high slanted curb that surrounds the median, and yes, that was just as dramatic as it sounds. That car made the worst sound I've ever heard a car make (I think he must have given himself the "shaved oilpan" mod), and I saw about 4 feet of daylight and shrubbery under the car til it remembered how much it weighed and dumped back onto the ground, scattering dirt, weeds and broken pieces of Germany's finest all over the damn place. blew the bodywork on the front end apart pretty good, and i'll bet that wasn't the end of it (see above mod comment).

If he'd have clipped the car that he cut off, that one would've t-boned the other car waiting in the cutoff and sent it out into oncoming traffic, and we all woulda had a real mess on our hands...

he hadn't even hit the curb yet when I started wondering how he was going to explain all of this to the insurance company.

Now THIS has got to be the real story about the Alpine E36. The CHP pulled over the 645ci and another car, and I heard a lot of chatting on the radio that they would have to miss the exit, so a lot of those guys did. The car I was in made it off just fine, and we were only pulled off to take some pictures since we would be continuing on Northbound 101 to go home. So once all the cars had left we got back on 101, north and our radar detector started flipping out so we slowed, and right there in the center turnout were two CHP stopped next to that alpine E36 that was pictured a few posts ago. It didn't look to be in good shape. Looked like he had overestimaded his ability to take the turn, and understeered straight into the ditch in the center of the freeway. There was also an E46 M3 that was stopped that was heading on 101 South to help him out.

oh yeah i forgot, i got a flat tire on the way hom ein the middle of gangsta vill LA.

I was shitting my pants, cause i thought i was gonna get car jacked. i had my knife out all ready to shank some gangsta that came up to me.

I was shitting my pants, cause i thought i was gonna get car jacked. i had my knife out all ready to shank some gangsta that came up to me.

:rofl :ar15firin

:rofl :ar15firin
Seriously if i had a gun i prolly would have went rambo staus on them

Seriously if i had a gun i prolly would have went rambo staus on them

Some bum tried to clean my windshield at a gas station in a ghetto part of town. He kept calling me "his man". I finally convinced him I had no cash. He didn't want to talk to me anymore and left the station alltogether. Then I walked over to a vending machine and bought a soda.

Later, I was taking an offramp. Some Mexican guy jumped out right in front of my car, I had to hit my brakes hard. He was holding two hats and speaking spanish in hyperspeed. I couldn't tell if he was begging for money or selling hats. I just kept shaking my head and saying "I'm sorry". :dunno

Some bum tried to clean my windshield at a gas station in a ghetto part of town. He kept calling me "his man". I finally convinced him I had no cash. He didn't want to talk to me anymore and left the station alltogether. Then I walked over to a vending machine and bought a soda.

Later, I was taking an offramp. Some Mexican guy jumped out right in front of my car, I had to hit my brakes hard. He was holding two hats and speaking spanish in hyperspeed. I couldn't tell if he was begging for money or selling hats. I just kept shaking my head and saying "I'm sorry". :dunno

:lol

What's hilarious about the 'hat guy' incident is I had the exact same thing happen to me about 6 months ago...

It was a decent event, I didn't see any accidents (I heard about the taurus/median over the radios, but it was behind us)... Didn't see any bimmers pulled over either (but saw several other pickups/suvs/etc. pulled over)... I wish I had stayed for the cruise, but it didn't seem terribly organized (eg someone said it left at 2PM, but we were all hanging out at the dealership for the raffle until ~3:30PM)... ended up just going to freebirds by UCSB and then taking the 101 south home, although we (my friend & I) bumped into the blue-flamed supercharged E46 M3 on the way and had some fun (140mph fun)... also ran into a pack of E30's that were without radios (or didn't want the company of the dakar & hellrot E36 M3's)...

I saw the C32 teckademics car, but didn't see Sean anywhere? After all the effort put into having a 'burrito assassin' shirt made... kind of a downer :(

I saw the C32 teckademics car, but didn't see Sean anywhere? After all the effort put into having a 'burrito assassin' shirt made... kind of a downer :(
you made a shirt for sean.... :confused

I saw the C32 teckademics car, but didn't see Sean anywhere? After all the effort put into having a 'burrito assassin' shirt made... kind of a downer :(

Whatever. We were over there for a while by the stairs and inside the showroom. We were keeping our eyes out for you, but it looks like you brought a different car to keep undercover. We even had some huge burritos lying around as a lure.

EXACTLY why i refuse to go on any drives...cant trust anyone these days...even if you think theyre cool on the boards... :shifty

Whatever. We were over there for a while by the stairs and inside the showroom. We were keeping our eyes out for you, but it looks like you brought a different car to keep undercover. We even had some huge burritos lying around as a lure.
its a good thing i was there to take care of those burrito's... wouldnt want them going to waste :D

I was told there would be a booth, I showed up in my dakar M3 (which I have owned for ~1wk now) and poked around but found nobody/nothing... I had a 'burrito assassin' shirt for half the day, then switched it out with a bimmerfest shirt... went to freebirds & had a burrito, and called it a day ;-)

edit: picture of the old-man mobile:

http://www.germanwerkz.com/personal/bimmerfest/IMG_0213.JPG

you must have been there same time i was, notice the guys sitting on the steps in the back. I also was at freebirds but around 3 in the morning before bimmerfest...that place was PACKED with hot chicks.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v473/m34ever/P4230017.jpg

What I didnt like was that silver S54 on the drive over taking people on the left and spraying people with rocks. Or that Black E36 Gripspeed car being a dumb fuk trying to do donuts in the look out area. He was prolly thinking that everyone thought he was cool because everyone was looking at him... In actuality everyone was looking at him just incase he hits one of the cars they would beat his ass... I mean damn what asian wears a Do-rag? str8 gangsta nigguh...

:D

94is-kim , I loved your car at bmfest. So fresh and so clean clean.
;)

arrggh crazy BMW drivers

didn't 2 guys died last year or 2 year ago in some cruise because an E46 M3 imola red cut him off or something.

arrggh crazy BMW drivers

didn't 2 guys died last year or 2 year ago in some cruise because an E46 M3 imola red cut him off or something.
One guy who was sitting in the back seat died after he became trapped in the car after it caught fire. It was in an imola E46, but I can't remember what happened exactly. I think he was just driving too hard and lost it. :dunno

:D
Bro you are stupid... It might be fun for you but puttin peoples property in danger like that is a stupid decision you made. We were glad you left because we didnt need that shiet.

One guy who was sitting in the back seat died after he became trapped in the car after it caught fire. It was in an imola E46, but I can't remember what happened exactly. I think he was just driving too hard and lost it. :dunno

Speeding on Santiago Canyon at night, racing a black E46 M3, the imola went off & someone was trapped in the backseat.

:D



:rofl

5 bucks on Lwrnce....handle that shiet foo.. :devillook

:D

If that was you (I don't know how many cars may have Gripspeed decals), thank you for contributing to what will probably be the last road rally.

It's that kind of activity that gets the public calling into the CHP and reporting "those damn BMW drivers".

You would think 'supposedly' intelligent BMW enthusiasts (I talking about all of us) could set a good example for just a few hours once a year. I don't think it's asking that much.

:(

:D
bans all the way around for teh gripspeed???

:shifty

i say we also ostracize him from any future socal bmw events. crap like that is just out of hand. :mad

There was another guy on BIMMERFEST that posted but I cant find it anymore... I kinda remember him saying "did anyone get a picture of the Mroadster(Him) overtaking the truck on the shoulder and spraying rocks and almost loosing it? If not then its okay"

He is a complete idiot too... I remember he was asian. Silver with red interior or red accents I think. I know it wasnt Scottn2retro...

bans all the way around for teh gripspeed???

:shifty

i say we also ostracize him from any future socal bmw events. crap like that is just out of hand. :mad

He thought he looked cool but he looked like an idiot... He was the asian guy wearing a yellow shirt with a black do-rag.

He thought he looked cool but he looked like an idiot... He was the asian guy wearing a yellow shirt with a black do-rag.
Unfortunately it's hard for someone like that to discriminate between looks of contempt and those of admiration from onlookers...

Unfortunately it's hard for someone like that to discriminate between looks of contempt and those of admiration from onlookers...
i hate to be the one to say it, but i know a lot of us are thinking it...

the RICE contingent at this year's b'fest caused a lot of this crap we're bitching about now...

there should be an age limit on who can buy a brand new m3... oh wait, they didnt buy it anyways huh, daddy did. :rolleyes

I should of kept my sombrero sp? on... I got sunburned haha.

There was another guy on BIMMERFEST that posted but I cant find it anymore... I kinda remember him saying "did anyone get a picture of the Mroadster(Him) overtaking the truck on the shoulder and spraying rocks and almost loosing it? If not then its okay"

He is a complete idiot too... I remember he was asian. Silver with red interior or red accents I think. I know it wasnt Scottn2retro...

I don't have mine anymore - sold it a little while back - just waiting to get an S54 M Coupe before I update my avatar :)

Hadn't heard anything about the M Roadster incident.

Hopefully we can come up with some kind of a solution - I'd hate to lose the road rally. Losing that would turn Bimmerfest into just another car show.

I don't have mine anymore - sold it a little while back - just waiting to get an S54 M Coupe before I update my avatar :)

Hadn't heard anything about the M Roadster incident.

Hopefully we can come up with some kind of a solution - I'd hate to lose the road rally. Losing that would turn Bimmerfest into just another car show.

Exactly.. the norcal Caravann was a huge group on the way to Santa barbara... We had a total of 3 cars that were driving stupid. A e36 328i white euro front plate, A e36 328i black with blacked out taillights, And I heard about them roadster auto-xing the construction cones even though it was tempting... it was a wise decision not to do that.

We had a group discussion, Keith, Alan, Ben and a couple of other guys. We were just gonna start reportin them to CHP. As long as we werent doing anything stupid like cutting people off and shiet like that we werent gonna get in pulled over. I remember when both big rigs were occupying both lanes the white 328i sedan stradle both lanes and was acting stupid...

I vouche for this... You see someone wreckless driving write down their plates and report it to CHP. We cannot stop the idiots from going on the drive but what we can do is make them pay for their actions.

It's sad to hear so much dumb sh't happend on the drives. I dont think theres anything wrong with a little speeding when you have a clear lane but all the doughtnuts, cutting cars off and swirving around cones sounds like dumb sh't. Now I kind of feel glad I didnt get to go on the drives. Next year I will leave the day before like all the smart people did. I heard the actual event was pretty sweet this year though... damn I didnt get to see Kim's car again. :(

It's sad to hear so much dumb sh't happend on the drives. I dont think theres anything wrong with a little speeding when you have a clear lane but all the doughtnuts, cutting cars off and swirving around cones sounds like dumb sh't. Now I kind of feel glad I didnt get to go on the drives. Next year I will leave the day before like all the smart people did. I heard the actual event was pretty sweet this year though... damn I didnt get to see Kim's car again. :(

Out of 300 cars on the drive there was only 4 incidents but that in itself is 1 to many...

It's sad to hear so much dumb sh't happend on the drives. I dont think theres anything wrong with a little speeding when you have a clear lane but all the doughtnuts, cutting cars off and swirving around cones sounds like dumb sh't. Now I kind of feel glad I didnt get to go on the drives. Next year I will leave the day before like all the smart people did. I heard the actual event was pretty sweet this year though... damn I didnt get to see Kim's car again. :(
well, i have to say- the socal caravan TO the event was pretty good.

all the dumbshit we were doing, wasn't as bad as what i'm reading happened on the rally.

the only hitch to the caravan to b'fest was all those stupid soccer moms cruising in the fast lane.... :mad

well now that i have heard about all the wreckless driving, im kinda happy i didn't go. heh that's sad.

I saw a guy in a Dakar yellow m3 get rolled on the way to the cruise
That would be me. Ironic how a SB local got nailed.

That would be me. Ironic how a SB local got nailed.
Tom that is in the video !

http://www.castc.net/bimmerfest_2005.mpg

That sucks you got pulled over :mad

Tom that is in the video !

http://www.castc.net/bimmerfest_2005.mpg

That sucks you got pulled over :mad
Eh, I was driving like an idiot, so I deserved it. Lesson learned

Eh, I was driving like an idiot, so I deserved it. Lesson learned
True.
Brent, Me, Dustin, and You should gtg for a photoshoot or drive soon.

well, i have to say- the socal caravan TO the event was pretty good.

all the dumbshit we were doing, wasn't as bad as what i'm reading happened on the rally.

the only hitch to the caravan to b'fest was all those stupid soccer moms cruising in the fast lane.... :mad


were you with me and the black 528i, two E36 M3s both black, one convertible i believe, and a few other 3 series? This damn excursion cut off our pack of like 10 cars on purpose and then slowed down to id say 50 MPH!!!! :mad I was thinking about cutting in between at any time because im the smallest car in the pack and id make it with alot of room, slowing her ass down and then letting our pack pass on the right. Stupid bitch, i hate that woman. Then we had some flamer in a V6 mustang think he was fast, he found out what German power means when he got passed by everyone in our pack, and then he decided to do a ricer flyby and go like 130 through traffic trying to weave on a V6 mustang suspension. Im suprised he didnt spin out. SoCal caravan rules though. Everyone was letting each other out. We all clicked well ont he highway, but i think more of us need to get radios for the next one.

were you with me and the black 528i, two E36 M3s both black, one convertible i believe, and a few other 3 series? This damn excursion cut off our pack of like 10 cars on purpose and then slowed down to id say 50 MPH!!!! :mad I was thinking about cutting in between at any time because im the smallest car in the pack and id make it with alot of room, slowing her ass down and then letting our pack pass on the right. Stupid bitch, i hate that woman. Then we had some flamer in a V6 mustang think he was fast, he found out what German power means when he got passed by everyone in our pack, and then he decided to do a ricer flyby and go like 130 through traffic trying to weave on a V6 mustang suspension. Im suprised he didnt spin out. SoCal caravan rules though. Everyone was letting each other out. We all clicked well ont he highway, but i think more of us need to get radios for the next one.
i was hoping one of the persian mafia bimmer drivers would get tired of that punk ass in his periwinkle v6 mustang and run him off the road or just cap his ass.

i gave him a couple of scary moments... i dont think he expected that you can crank out quite a bit more hp out of an bmw inline 6 than a stock shitty mustang...

man he pissed me off. i loved when his body roll almost caused him to introduce himself very personally to the median barrier.

oh, and yes- that was me with you guys... for a bit... sorry i had to run, i had to catch up with yetix... :D

and then i had to leave yeti as i was having too much fun with this brand new m3 cabrio from beverly hills. his wife was filming the two of us having a go at it for awhile...



...then he walked on me :(

Eh, I was driving like an idiot, so I deserved it. Lesson learned

Hehe, admission is the first part of the solution. Could you do me a favor though - for next year's road rally (if there is one), please help encourage people to drive safely? You can tell them what happened to you.

Like I said, we're not surprising anybody out there (well. at least not pleasantly). The CHP and SBPD know we're on for that day and while I know SB is a laid back town, the citizens don't want to tolerate a lot of foolishness either.

I got lost on the Caravan leaving Balboa (SoCal)

I was the last one to catch the light, so there was a pack infron of me that was going WOT and no one behind me, I had no choice but to keep up with these guys :D

The radios DID help a bunch though :buttrock

The radios DID help a bunch though :buttrock
i wish i didnt forget mine at home... :(

The CHP and SBPD know we're on for that day and while I know SB is a laid back town, the citizens don't want to tolerate a lot of foolishness either.

I AM a SB citizen, lol.

I AM a SB citizen, lol.
:rofl

you got hosed.

On the really, there was a highway we were supposed to take off the 101...the CHP had a new M3 and 645 pulled over, and we were all paying attention to them, so this giant chunk of us missed the turnoff. On the 101, every few hundred yards it has those left turn lanes that dive off into cutouts through the center median so people can turn around, since the exits are so few and far between. When this guy in the E36, who was in the RIGHT lane, realized he missed the turn like all of us, he cut off the car to his left (we were all doing 70) by a few inches trying to get to one of the cutoffs. Put simply, there was no fucking way he was ever gonna make it into there. He couldn't brake till he had maybe 50 feet of pavement left, and there was another car sitting in the cutoff waiting to turn around, and there was oncoming traffic in the other lanes, and he was FUCKED. He was probably still doing 40-45 when he ran over the foot-high slanted curb that surrounds the median, and yes, that was just as dramatic as it sounds. That car made the worst sound I've ever heard a car make (I think he must have given himself the "shaved oilpan" mod), and I saw about 4 feet of daylight and shrubbery under the car til it remembered how much it weighed and dumped back onto the ground, scattering dirt, weeds and broken pieces of Germany's finest all over the damn place. blew the bodywork on the front end apart pretty good, and i'll bet that wasn't the end of it (see above mod comment).

If he'd have clipped the car that he cut off, that one would've t-boned the other car waiting in the cutoff and sent it out into oncoming traffic, and we all woulda had a real mess on our hands...

he hadn't even hit the curb yet when I started wondering how he was going to explain all of this to the insurance company.

This would fit the description of what I saw when I drove by.

After all these stories about bad drivers, I hope it doesn't scare people from the drives in the future. To me, bimmerfest is all about the drive, whether it be the caravan or the rally. Other than high speeds, I quite honestly saw no really bad or erratic driving. Those few stories that did arise are not representative of everybody.

After all these stories about bad drivers, I hope it doesn't scare people from the drives in the future. To me, bimmerfest is all about the drive, whether it be the caravan or the rally. Other than high speeds, I quite honestly saw no really bad or erratic driving. Those few stories that did arise are not representative of everybody.
i hope so too.

i am really kicking myself for not participating, even with the shenannigans. i was just too tired and wanted to eat and take a nap...

That would be me. Ironic how a SB local got nailed.

whats the damage?

After all these stories about bad drivers, I hope it doesn't scare people from the drives in the future. To me, bimmerfest is all about the drive, whether it be the caravan or the rally. Other than high speeds, I quite honestly saw no really bad or erratic driving. Those few stories that did arise are not representative of everybody.
Definitely agree. I saw little to no stupidity as the passenger. The people speeding were risking it...and a few of them got what they deserved. I think the only stupid thing I saw was an Estoril E36 M3 try to pull a somewhat out of control burnout in the crowded Refugio exit. Considering there were probably 500+ cars that attended Bimmerfest, the number of reported incidents is relatively low.

i was hoping one of the persian mafia bimmer drivers would get tired of that punk ass in his periwinkle v6 mustang and run him off the road or just cap his ass.

i gave him a couple of scary moments... i dont think he expected that you can crank out quite a bit more hp out of an bmw inline 6 than a stock shitty mustang...

man he pissed me off. i loved when his body roll almost caused him to introduce himself very personally to the median barrier.

oh, and yes- that was me with you guys... for a bit... sorry i had to run, i had to catch up with yetix... :D

and then i had to leave yeti as i was having too much fun with this brand new m3 cabrio from beverly hills. his wife was filming the two of us having a go at it for awhile...



...then he walked on me :(

I ran the Mustang and killed him pretty badly, it got so bad that i just let off and he still couldnt pull. Then i tucked in behind him when he passed(still in 5th no downshift) hit it and stay with him and pull to within 1/2 a car length behind him just to let him know he sucks at life..

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Awww, this picture makes me sad in the pants... :( ...

I drove home Loneranger status, freakin almost fell asleep 3 or 4 times, made my passenger ask me random questions and quiz me and shit to stay awake. Worst drive evaaar.

There was another guy on BIMMERFEST that posted but I cant find it anymore... I kinda remember him saying "did anyone get a picture of the Mroadster(Him) overtaking the truck on the shoulder and spraying rocks and almost loosing it? If not then its okay"

He is a complete idiot too... I remember he was asian. Silver with red interior or red accents I think. I know it wasnt Scottn2retro...That was me posting on the first page of this thread:

Did anyone happen to see or have pics/footage of a silver ///M coupe cutting off a semi, blasting across the dirt, and almost sideswiping an Estoril and another red bimmer on the Hope Ave exit in the morning? If so, show please! If not... just as good. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/Hitokiri_StarReaver/Random/icon_ninja.gifI realize what I did was beyond stupid and reckless. I could have seriously injured several other people and totalled their cars (along with mine) at the speed I was going. I have no excuse for what I did, and only now do I realize what sort of affect it could have on future events. My deepest apologies go out to everyone who could have been involved, and to those right now who want to strangle me for doing what I did.

Awww, this picture makes me sad in the pants... :( ...

I drove home Loneranger status, freakin almost fell asleep 3 or 4 times, made my passenger ask me random questions and quiz me and shit to stay awake. Worst drive evaaar.

I saw your car there, but didn't see you anywhere... they wouldn't let mine on the premisis :(

I just put wheels on the dakar the night prior to bimmerfest, there is currently about $1k in mods travelling through various postal systems on their way to my car, so you will probably see it evolve slowly in the IVC parking lot :stickoutt

I saw your car there, but didn't see you anywhere... they wouldn't let mine on the premisis :(

I just put wheels on the dakar the night prior to bimmerfest, there is currently about $1k in mods travelling through various postal systems on their way to my car, so you will probably see it evolve slowly in the IVC parking lot :stickoutt

Yeah I thought I saw you there, I was helping at the booth or just wandering around all delerious from sleep deprivation. I saw your car today with the wheels and was like dyaaaaaam homie, you better keep this one for a while. I just got my wheels too but I'm awaiting some rubber via selling these CSL wheels. errr. Let me know if you need any help with the mods. Your Dakar # 4 down in South County now, good times.

i wish i didnt forget mine at home... :(

I think I saw you at the Fest when you walked right infront of my by the Weiner Line (Hot Dogs)... I remember seeing that hair in the 911 Hotwing Challenge. :rofl

I ran the Mustang and killed him pretty badly, it got so bad that i just let off and he still couldnt pull. Then i tucked in behind him when he passed(still in 5th no downshift) hit it and stay with him and pull to within 1/2 a car length behind him just to let him know he sucks at life..
i hope he lost an inch or two off his dick after that...

for gods sakes what man buys a periwinkle v6 mustang???

I think I saw you at the Fest when you walked right infront of my by the Weiner Line (Hot Dogs)... I remember seeing that hair in the 911 Hotwing Challenge. :rofl
:rofl

you should have asked if i was LCB!!!

That was me posting on the first page of this thread:

I realize what I did was beyond stupid and reckless. I could have seriously injured several other people and totalled their cars (along with mine) at the speed I was going. I have no excuse for what I did, and only now do I realize what sort of affect it could have on future events. My deepest apologies go out to everyone who could have been involved, and to those right now who want to strangle me for doing what I did.
takes a big man to admit that in such a manner. e-props :clap

That was me posting on the first page of this thread:

I realize what I did was beyond stupid and reckless. I could have seriously injured several other people and totalled their cars (along with mine) at the speed I was going. I have no excuse for what I did, and only now do I realize what sort of affect it could have on future events. My deepest apologies go out to everyone who could have been involved, and to those right now who want to strangle me for doing what I did.

I accept your apology, Atleast you were able to get on here and note your actions... I mean its cool to drive fast heck I was the one chasing you in the white 3 series when it opened up into two lanes, and your passenger looked back at me lol. That shiet sounded mean too.

It sux no one said wsup to me :( The only ones who did was ty and the AZ group. I guess my norcalBMW shirt made the socaler's mad. If you try and say you didnt know who I was you are full of shiet! My damn name was on the back of my shirt and for a little bit I was wearing a Chevy's sombrero. :D

Next year we should have those stupid little "Hello, my name is" tags with our bf.c names on them. I was there all day, heck I even work at the dealership and I didn't meet a single person from bf.c on saturday. I was the dakar M3 on FM10's.

I realize what I did was beyond stupid and reckless. I could have seriously injured several other people and totalled their cars (along with mine) at the speed I was going. I have no excuse for what I did, and only now do I realize what sort of affect it could have on future events. My deepest apologies go out to everyone who could have been involved, and to those right now who want to strangle me for doing what I did.

Ah, but it's never too late for a 2nd chance. Next year help set the good example and spread the word for people to drive safe. :)

The last rally in CA I was on, I witnessed the aforementioned Imola E46 M3 go up in flames less than 30sec after the accident, so needless to say I was very wary of going on a run with SO many cars...

I felt very safe riding with Kim(94is) though, and i'm surprised there were not more incidents. I guess "it could have been worse"... disappointing though that we have to expect people to be stupid, I don't know what there is to prove... :confused

Unfortunately before we got in the car I asked her wonder who would wreck their car on the run....looks like GOT BMW won the prize. Bummer.

It sux no one said wsup to me :( The only ones who did was ty and the AZ group. I guess my norcalBMW shirt made the socaler's mad. If you try and say you didnt know who I was you are full of shiet! My damn name was on the back of my shirt and for a little bit I was wearing a Chevy's sombrero. :D
dude, wtf?

i came and even sat next to you to shoot the shit for like 20 minutes at the end of the day... with gf in tow and everything.

thats right... mr. e-famous himself coming to sit with the little peeps... and this is what i get for it... :confused


:D j/k

but yeah... wtf- i saw you and headed your way right away!

vitolo i got a nice pic of you on the caravan

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v473/m34ever/P4230045.jpg

oh yeah dude, GREAT pic :laugh

vitolo i got a nice pic of you on the caravan

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v473/m34ever/P4230045.jpg

Thats kim's car right?

i tried, ahahhahahaa. That is the greatest custom title ever!!! Im definetly building a platform at my friends house in IV this summer.

dude, wtf?

i came and even sat next to you to shoot the shit for like 20 minutes at the end of the day... with gf in tow and everything.

thats right... mr. e-famous himself coming to sit with the little peeps... and this is what i get for it... :confused


:D j/k

but yeah... wtf- i saw you and headed your way right away!

I know that is what i meant by the bay area people... You were one of them foo! lol. I meant people on the boards I never met. I might be an ass online but I am cool in person right JP?

I saw M34ever on the caravann passing me.

:D
Very proud of your actions, aren't ya?

I saw M34ever on the caravann passing me.hahahaha, I remember driving with you for awhile and watching your races. I remember you chasing your friend through the ramada as he was dragging the hose :rofl2

hahahaha, I remember driving with you for awhile and watching your races. I remember you chasing your friend through the ramada as he was dragging the hose :rofl2

Man yeah he beat me... But the only thing was I had a full interior. He had no rear interior everything was bare. We went from I believe it was 70-100. 70-80 even,85-95 he would pull when we hit a hundred that is when I started to catch up. Then he shut it down saying... man I never go over 100mph. I deemed him ghey.

I know that is what i meant by the bay area people... You were one of them foo! lol. I meant people on the boards I never met. I might be an ass online but I am cool in person right JP?

I saw M34ever on the caravann passing me.
you said the kiddos from az... not the bay ;)


and yes, you are chill in person.

as long as john mayer is no where to be seen...

you said the kiddos from az... not the bay ;)


and yes, you are chill in person.

as long as john mayer is no where to be seen...
Then I turn into rick james BIATCH! Iwas gonna go commando loco on that guy whippin it in the turnout. I felt bad for the guy whose mini was there because he ran to his car and told him to stop and bounced and continued the rest of the drive. Instead he could have just chilled with us but he was scared that banana shirt was gonna hit his car. LEAVE THE YELLOW SHIRTS TO TY and his drunkeness.

Then I turn into rick james BIATCH! Iwas gonna go commando loco on that guy whippin it in the turnout. I felt bad for the guy whose mini was there because he ran to his car and told him to stop and bounced and continued the rest of the drive. Instead he could have just chilled with us but he was scared that banana shirt was gonna hit his car. LEAVE THE YELLOW SHIRTS TO TY and his drunkeness.
well, the guy who drove the mini didnt look like he was going to have a fun day no matter what...

i saw him and his wife in the morning and they were not looking happy about the rest of the attendee's. i think she probably had his nuts in a vice by the end of the day...

I know that is what i meant by the bay area people... You were one of them foo! lol. I meant people on the boards I never met. I might be an ass online but I am cool in person right JP?

I saw M34ever on the caravann passing me.

I cruised by you a few times, but I never saw you other than on the road. Not that I know what you look like anyways lol.

[QUOTE=LWRNCE]Yeah... Guy got a ticket for Autocrossing the construction zone hhaaha... [QUOTE]

Nice going, jackass. People like you are the cause of many problems.

[QUOTE=LWRNCE]Yeah... Guy got a ticket for Autocrossing the construction zone hhaaha... [QUOTE]

Nice going, jackass. People like you are the cause of many problems.

Craig where were you at? I thought you were coming in the lambo?

[QUOTE=craiglieberman][QUOTE=LWRNCE]Yeah... Guy got a ticket for Autocrossing the construction zone hhaaha...

Craig where were you at? I thought you were coming in the lambo?

Yes, originally I was. Unfortunately, rain was forecast, so I slept in a little later.

Imagine my surprise when I woke up at 6:30AM and saw a beautiful day.

I wound up going to the Crystal Cove meet, which only runs from 7AM to 9AM each Saturday,(http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56817) as I am promoting an event right now called "The Stampede" and I really needed some face time with potential participants.

Besides...my car would have beat your car in the construction cone slalom, so be glad I didn't go. ;)

[QUOTE=LWRNCE][QUOTE=craiglieberman]

Yes, originally I was. Unfortunately, rain was forecast, so I slept in a little later.

Imagine my surprise when I woke up at 6:30AM and saw a beautiful day.

I wound up going to the Crystal Cove meet, which only runs from 7AM to 9AM each Saturday,(http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56817) as I am promoting an event right now called "The Stampede" and I really needed some face time with potential participants.

Besides...my car would have beat your car in the construction cone slalom, so be glad I didn't go. ;)
umm.. dipshit- lawrence wasn't the one that got the ticket for slaloming the construction cones...

i guess they dont pay you for your comphrehension skills in the movies... :rolleyes

takes a big man to admit that in such a manner. e-props :clapThanks man. Wow, praised by an OT Prommie. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/Hitokiri_StarReaver/Random/icon_redface.gif

I accept your apology, Atleast you were able to get on here and note your actions... I mean its cool to drive fast heck I was the one chasing you in the white 3 series when it opened up into two lanes, and your passenger looked back at me lol. That shiet sounded mean too.Thanks. :) Hm... I'm trying to remember when you were behind. My passenger jumped ship to my friend's E30 after the final meeting spot, so it must have been before that. I was too busy gawking at how many of us clogged the highways to awknowledge any individual car.

Ah, but it's never too late for a 2nd chance. Next year help set the good example and spread the word for people to drive safe. :)I'll be sure to do that. I was scared sh*tless after that stunt I pulled. I wanted to get out of the car as soon as possible onto non-moving ground, and when I finally stopped, my passenger jumped out and kissed the pavement in the parking lot. I was close to doing the same thing, but I've got OCD and didn't want to touch the dirty ground.





By the way, did anyone hear me honking my horn when we passed through the tunnel? :D

By the way, did anyone hear me honking my horn when we passed through the tunnel? :D
Haha, yeah everyone was doing that. It was loud as hell in there.

Haha, yeah everyone was doing that. It was loud as hell in there.
Did you hear BMW M Power's car go through the tunnel with his straight pipes :devillook

Damn Kids... Why cant they just stick to video games? :)

chpahoy will be on duty for next years roadrally...

Whatever. We were over there for a while by the stairs and inside the showroom. We were keeping our eyes out for you, but it looks like you brought a different car to keep undercover. We even had some huge burritos lying around as a lure.

and donuts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[QUOTE=LWRNCE][QUOTE=craiglieberman]

Yes, originally I was. Unfortunately, rain was forecast, so I slept in a little later.

Imagine my surprise when I woke up at 6:30AM and saw a beautiful day.

I wound up going to the Crystal Cove meet, which only runs from 7AM to 9AM each Saturday,(http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56817) as I am promoting an event right now called "The Stampede" and I really needed some face time with potential participants.

Besides...my car would have beat your car in the construction cone slalom, so be glad I didn't go. ;)

sounds like a ghey rodeo rally

[QUOTE=craiglieberman][QUOTE=LWRNCE]
umm.. dipshit- lawrence wasn't the one that got the ticket for slaloming the construction cones...

i guess they dont pay you for your comphrehension skills in the movies... :rolleyes

Yeah, no $hit....I was quoting Lawrence's response.

Thanks peni$wrinkle...and I stand by my previous statement:
The guy (who did get a ticket) is an a$$wipe.

and donuts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
some damn good donuts to! im surprised the uber nerds werent all over us for those

[QUOTE=LeftCoastBias][QUOTE=craiglieberman]

Yeah, no $hit....I was quoting Lawrence's response.

Thanks peni$wrinkle...and I stand by my previous statement:
The guy (who did get a ticket) is an a$$wipe.
i'll beg to differ, i'm not the only one that thought you were attacking lawrence.

and if that is not the case, you still should post more clearly; as you are not known to be the most genuine or constructive of forum visitors in the bmw world.

ppppppttttttttttttt....on CL bigtime..

Yeah seriously Craig I was like dude wtf is your problem I was tryin to be cool with you but you fuckin pulled the trigger.

i was hoping one of the persian mafia bimmer drivers would get tired of that punk ass in his periwinkle v6 mustang and run him off the road or just cap his ass.

i gave him a couple of scary moments... i dont think he expected that you can crank out quite a bit more hp out of an bmw inline 6 than a stock shitty mustang...

man he pissed me off. i loved when his body roll almost caused him to introduce himself very personally to the median barrier.

oh, and yes- that was me with you guys... for a bit... sorry i had to run, i had to catch up with yetix... :D

and then i had to leave yeti as i was having too much fun with this brand new m3 cabrio from beverly hills. his wife was filming the two of us having a go at it for awhile...



...then he walked on me :(

i was with you guys most of the time, walked both of you :buttrock

Yeah seriously Craig I was like dude wtf is your problem I was tryin to be cool with you but you fuckin pulled the trigger.

why would you try to be cool to a major douche.

Next year I'm gonna buy me the most beat ass e30 I can find and challenge Doug (Uberpanzer?) for "Most Beat BMW"!! I also won't care if its gets dinged on the Rally.

Seriously, after hearing some of the stories from the Rally I'm glad I didn't make it. The last place I want to drive my car is where there's heightened cop attention. My shit would be "Hands on the hood mutherfucker and don't move!!" faster than Ving Rhames does his hair in the morning!! Damn Imola Red!! :D

i was with you guys most of the time, walked both of you :buttrock
i dont remember getting walked by ANY e36... :shifty

and donuts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ahahahha you couldn't go on without donuts! You'd start talking about something, and then be all, "man I need some donuts".

Then I was all tired and ask you some stupid question you just answered. "you have a supercharger?", "dude, I just showed you the blower" lolol

some damn good donuts to! im surprised the uber nerds werent all over us for those

Dude, the donuts, thank you. You rock. :buttrock

You were suffering from donut delerium

Dude, the donuts, thank you. You rock. :buttrock
no problem man...i think i should have got two boxes after i saw how fast those disappeared :eek:

no problem man...i think i should have got two boxes after i saw how fast those disappeared :eek:

Krispy Kreme... :corkysm60

I think Vader snatched the leftovers.

Krispy Kreme... :corkysm60

I think Vader snatched the leftovers.

Yes I did and they were teh awsome..heat them up in the wave with milk..mmmmmm to die for!

damn you guys are making me hungry again...time for another krispy kreme run!

Next year I'm gonna buy me the most beat ass e30 I can find and challenge Doug (Uberpanzer?) for "Most Beat BMW"!! I also won't care if its gets dinged on the Rally.

Seriously, after hearing some of the stories from the Rally I'm glad I didn't make it. The last place I want to drive my car is where there's heightened cop attention. My shit would be "Hands on the hood mutherfucker and don't move!!" faster than Ving Rhames does his hair in the morning!! Damn Imola Red!! :D


Wowzers.... where the heck did the shaggin' wagen go?

why would you try to be cool to a major douche.
Nah Vader I was just askin you know where he was on saturday then he came out like a fuckin bitch.

Next year I'm gonna buy me the most beat ass e30 I can find and challenge Doug (Uberpanzer?) for "Most Beat BMW"!! I also won't care if its gets dinged on the Rally.
Well, after the amount of complaints I've been seeing on the boards about how my car did not belong on the lot, I'm thinking about actually doing some stuff to it before next year (like washing it at the very least :stickoutt). Funny how nobody said anything about it or that '02 that looked even rougher than my car last year when we were at EWSG, but this year some people got REAL butt hurt that an e21 that is used (and abused) more than most other BMW's was out on the lot. Oh well, it is a classic (by Jon's definition) and also had more mods than a lot of the e36 and e46 cars that were also allowed on the lot. So what if I didn't wash it, it isn't JUST a car show.

Ah screw it....let's just get the whole SD crew showing up in beaters from hell. Kim can drive her e30, Neil Daily can drive his newly aquired 325es (formerly known as Tim's "Ghetta"), and I'll let someone else drive my 318is that is having some tranny issues. I guess the closer to the boarder you get, the worse off the rides are, huh? ;)

Ah screw it....let's just get the whole SD crew showing up in beaters from hell. Kim can drive her e30, Neil Daily can drive his newly aquired 325es (formerly known as Tim's "Ghetta"), and I'll let someone else drive my 318is that is having some tranny issues. I guess the closer to the boarder you get, the worse off the rides are, huh? ;)
your car should be on the lot more then anyone's! :buttrock I remember rolling next you on the rally for awhile and thinking how us two are one of the few there from the OG DTM days. I was actually more excited seeing your car then a lot of the others on the lot :buttrock

Well, after the amount of complaints I've been seeing on the boards about how my car did not belong on the lot, I'm thinking about actually doing some stuff to it before next year (like washing it at the very least :stickoutt). Funny how nobody said anything about it or that '02 that looked even rougher than my car last year when we were at EWSG, but this year some people got REAL butt hurt that an e21 that is used (and abused) more than most other BMW's was out on the lot. Oh well, it is a classic (by Jon's definition) and also had more mods than a lot of the e36 and e46 cars that were also allowed on the lot. So what if I didn't wash it, it isn't JUST a car show.

Ah screw it....let's just get the whole SD crew showing up in beaters from hell. Kim can drive her e30, Neil Daily can drive his newly aquired 325es (formerly known as Tim's "Ghetta"), and I'll let someone else drive my 318is that is having some tranny issues. I guess the closer to the boarder you get, the worse off the rides are, huh? ;)
can i pick up an 80's escort and convert it to a 318 like they did on pimp my ride? but i'll only do it half-assed so i can park it next to the SoCal bimmer beater's club :D

I was walking back to my car (parked on the lot) and I saw a guy and a woman checking out my seats. My boyfriend and I started talking to them for awhile and it turns out he was Satch Carlson. He seemed really interested in my car and myself, and even gave me his email. Coolio. :cool
Go look up Carlson's rap sheet.....His sexual abuse of a minor case inspired a couple pieces of legislation. So, I'm sure he was interested in you. :nono

Go look up Carlson's rap sheet.....His sexual abuse of a minor case inspired a couple pieces of legislation. So, I'm sure he was interested in you. :nono
are you serious??

Wurthmann v. State (6/1/01) ap-1745

http://touchngo.com/ap/html/ap-1745.htm

These changes were
precipitated by the Satch Carlson case. [Fn. 6] Carlson, an
Anchorage high school teacher, had been charged with two counts of
sexual abuse of a minor in the first degree [Fn. 7] and one count
of sexual abuse of a minor in the second degree [Fn. 8] after he
had sex with a seventeen-year-old student. [Fn. 9] The statutes in
effect at that time prohibited adults from having sex with sixteen-
and seventeen-year-old minors entrusted to their care "by authority
of law." [Fn. 10] Superior Court Judge Karl S. Johnstone
determined that this language prohibited sex with children in this
age bracket by legal guardians, but not by teachers. [Fn. 11]



alaska, eh?

all of his messages from the old digest are addressed from satch at alaska dot net

Wurthmann v. State (6/1/01) ap-1745

http://touchngo.com/ap/html/ap-1745.htm





alaska, eh?
so the law in alaska said its ok for teachers to have sex with 17 year olds, but not legal gaurdians to have sex with them?

weird... :confused


and also- weird about it being the same guy...

we really gotta figure out this white e36 mystery... :confused


I saw the crash of ian's car... the one in the photos. I do think that these two stories are about the same occurance. They are just two sides of the story. I admit that the LSB m3 was a little out of control too. But this was the same car, it wasnt two crashes. There were a few others of us that stoped to help. I stopped with Dakare36, and Dakarz3 as well. But when the CHP stopped they made us leave. They said that we were causing more trouble being there.

all of his messages from the old digest are addressed from satch at alaska dot net

http://home.earthlink.net/~wardellhix/members/newsletters/iXchange12.html

"Satch Carlson of Anchorage, Alaska shares some info with us which he has not published in the Roundel:"

all of his messages from the old digest are addressed from satch at alaska dot net

http://www.alaska.net/~satch/linkspage.htm

The author is solely responsible for the contents of these pages and the opinions expressed herein. You may address suggestions, comments, and criticism to
Satch Carlson, PO Box 113087, Anchorage, AK 99511-3087 USA.

an iX. that explains everything.

wow. you guys really dont like the pre-vert ix driver.

kim... be careful of your cookies around him, i guess

a quick search of teh R USA database found two telephone listings:

CARLSON S Not Provided ANCHORAGE AK (907) 333-
CARLSON S Not Provided ANCHORAGE AK (907) 349-


i'm sure he could be found on a sex offender database.

oohh... you might wanna edit that out... maybe just softlink where/what you found...


:paranoid:

F I N E

F I N E
hey, i'm just looking out for you!

didnt think you'd enjoy the ixnay on the Ohhh TAYYY. (T.O.)

I wouldn't edit anything out - the guy ended up setting several legal precedents that every other state in the US noticed and used to change their existing laws to protect minors.

now that he's part of the public record, who cares. he can't do much to stop facts.

he's like michael jackson, no?

don't know where he maintains his residence, or if he uses another name. but 5 showed up in alaska.

http://www.dps.state.ak.us/nSorcr/asp/list.asp?Preview=FALSE&PgNum=1&FirstName=&LastName=carlson&AddrType=&StreetName=&ZipCodes=&City=&ExecuteQry=Submit+Query

23 carlsons in CA

http://www.meganslaw.ca.gov/cgi/prosoma.dll?zoomAction=Box&lastName=carlson&firstName=&Address=&City=&zipcode=&searchDistance=.75&City2=&countyLocation=&zipcode2=&SelectCounty=&ParkName=&searchDistance2=.75&City3=&zipcode3=&countyLocation3=&schoolName=&searchDistance3=.75&City4=&zipcode4=&countyLocation4=&pan=&distacross=107211&centerlat=38409907&centerlon=-121514242&starlat=&starlon=&startext=&x1=&y1=&x2=&y2=&mapwidth=525&mapheight=400&zoom=&searchBy=namelist&id=&docountycitylist=2&OFDTYPE=


the internet rules

p.s. this guy has the happiest looking mug shot evar

http://205.201.136.22/maps/1869503804386.jpg

can someone rehost that mugshot on photobucket or imageshack? i'd like to see it from work...

:rofl i just realized that this guy is a pretty big name for bimmer journalists, but aparantly is an even bigger name as far as sexual preditors go!!

he set precedents!!! :rofl

well... actually, i guess thats not that funny. its kinda f'ed up. :(

http://members.roadfly.org/e30sd/1869503804386.jpg

http://members.roadfly.org/e30sd/1869503804386.jpg
holy shat he went to town on that one!!!


and wow. that guy does look like someone i wouldnt trust my, nor anyone else's kids with!!

Hmm, interesting stuff. So the editor in chief of Roundel magazine had sex with a minor? He was some older white guy who appeared to be married. I'm pretty sure that he is from the Bay area since he was carrying a bunch of their chapter's newsletters. :dunno

http://satch.us/index.html