View Full Version : Need a HIGH DOLLAR LAWYER!! bombs found in my neighborhood. WTF!!!


SecretAznSauce
04-21-2005, 08:43 PM
looks like city of arlington and KB homes knowingly built homes on an old miliarty test bomb site during ww2. in 1998 28 bombs were found and recently more were found. I'm pissed like a bitch. . All they are gonna do is search our yards and remove the sh**. F*** that. they didn't disclose this information. hell if I had known I wouldnt have bought!!! last few days i noticed an military trailer down the street and news crews. now i know why. they claim the bombs were just smoke tracers or something like that

edited: i'm calmed down now.

Blke36
04-21-2005, 09:47 PM
Damn......just be glad it wasn't an old cemetary:

http://www.impawards.com/1982/posters/poltergeist_ver2.jpg

:stickoutt


Seriously though, that sucks.

Nics
04-21-2005, 09:52 PM
Wow I had no idea about anything like that in Arlington. Hmmm, there's this crazy redhead gov't prof at TCC SE, I'm pretty sure that she knows of a lot of good lawyers, since she was the one that referred me to James Mallory for traffic tickets, hehhh.

95beema
04-21-2005, 09:55 PM
Military is shady. Ask me how I know :devillook . They we prolly nukes..lol

hinzm3
04-21-2005, 09:59 PM
something like this happened back in Sacramento. A train derailed back in the 70s and it was loaded with bombs. A ton of them blew up and they thought they got them all out but int he late 90s they found a ton of them. There were new houses build very closeby as well.

Blke36
04-21-2005, 10:11 PM
Wow I had no idea about anything like that in Arlington. Hmmm, there's this crazy redhead gov't prof at TCC SE, I'm pretty sure that she knows of a lot of good lawyers, since she was the one that referred me to James Mallory for traffic tickets, hehhh.

OT.....Mallory any good at ticket dismissal? Have a BS red-light ticket from a DART cop I need to dispense of. :rolleyes

Nics
04-21-2005, 10:44 PM
I heard Mallory is THE MAN for the area. One doof in my gov't class confessed that he got out of a ticket that was like 80mph in school zone. Last time I heard, he charged like 30-40 buxx per case.

Pepe240sx
04-21-2005, 11:22 PM
I need that individual to take care of my speeding ticket that I received in Grapevine, 80 in a 60 :(

Fucking laser guns.

Capital
04-21-2005, 11:38 PM
Dig them up and sell them on Ebay :)

Steph328
04-22-2005, 12:27 AM
Eric, how did you not know about this before now? That whole debaucle has been going on for a little over 2 years now... ever since they started developing and building there. I'd be MAJORLY pissed- get in on the lawsuit with your neighbors, several have a class-action type suit against KB. The city did disclose the info to KB, the builder just didn't disclose it to the homeowners.

SecretAznSauce
04-22-2005, 06:59 AM
Eric, how did you not know about this before now? That whole debaucle has been going on for a little over 2 years now... ever since they started developing and building there. I'd be MAJORLY pissed- get in on the lawsuit with your neighbors, several have a class-action type suit against KB. The city did disclose the info to KB, the builder just didn't disclose it to the homeowners.



steph, i knew nothing about it, thats the thing they passed out info last night at the meeting, KB didnt show up at all. just the core of engineers. my buddy is pulling up docs tomorrow with standfield realtors corp. lawyers. somewhere someone didnt tell me crap, along those lines, we werent even told about yesterdays meeeting. only old homeowners were notified. Joe across the street came to my house and said where the fuck are you, why aren't you coming???? this whole thing has been so hush hush!!

CABimmer
04-22-2005, 09:04 AM
Im sure there is a class action lawsuit going on, just get on that. And by the way, they were targeting bombs, not that big of a deal. Dont expect to get much out of it. They will go through the area with metal detectors and say your house is safe.

Blke36
04-22-2005, 09:06 AM
I heard Mallory is THE MAN for the area. One doof in my gov't class confessed that he got out of a ticket that was like 80mph in school zone. Last time I heard, he charged like 30-40 buxx per case.

Mallory (http://www.jamesrmallory.com/)

Looks like he doesn't cover Dallas :(

SecretAznSauce
04-22-2005, 09:06 AM
Im sure there is a class action lawsuit going on, just get on that. And by the way, they were targeting bombs, not that big of a deal. Dont expect to get much out of it. They will go through the area with metal detectors and say your house is safe.


Yeah doug, I'm not looking to get rich, its more bothersome than anything. i'm mad that we werent disclosed. i just want out, but i surely know i wont be able to sell now. unless at a major loss.

neiche
04-22-2005, 09:26 AM
yea Eric my cousin had the same thing liek 2 years ago or so in Arlington.... he was on the news but forgot what ended up hapening but could find out of needed....

Blke36
04-22-2005, 09:49 AM
Yeah doug, I'm not looking to get rich, its more bothersome than anything. i'm mad that we werent disclosed. i just want out, but i surely know i wont be able to sell now. unless at a major loss.

Since it wasn't disclosed to you, is there a requirement for you to disclose the same when you eventually sell? If not, I would think this issue would fade into the background by the time you sold (assuming that's a few years out). That being said, I can understand your anger. I have a 3 yr. old so I'd be pissed if my neighborhood had live ammo. :mad

SecretAznSauce
04-22-2005, 10:09 AM
Since it wasn't disclosed to you, is there a requirement for you to disclose the same when you eventually sell? If not, I would think this issue would fade into the background by the time you sold (assuming that's a few years out). That being said, I can understand your anger. I have a 3 yr. old so I'd be pissed if my neighborhood had live ammo. :mad



they cliam its not live, but they claimed it wasnt suppose to be anything htere either. I am renting a metal detector this weekend and waiting on what happens next. i'm just frustrated as heck, you bust your ass to buy a house to get screwed by corp. america

SecretAznSauce
04-22-2005, 11:51 AM
yea Eric my cousin had the same thing liek 2 years ago or so in Arlington.... he was on the news but forgot what ended up hapening but could find out of needed....


yeah that would be great chad, i want out of here



<img src="http://images.ibsys.com/2004/0504/3267621.jpg"><BR><img src="http://images.ibsys.com/2004/0504/3267651.jpg"><br><img src="http://images.ibsys.com/2004/0504/3267624.jpg"> thats what they found so far!!!



By Glenn Roberts Jr.
Inman News

Mark 23 practice bomb Mark 23 practice bombs, like the one shown here, have reportedly been recovered from the site of the Southridge Hills residential development in Arlington, Texas. Source: U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.

Southridge Hills, a 127-acre housing development in southeast Arlington, Texas, features 10 floor plans, prices ranging from $108,000 to $135,000, and a nearby golf course and lake. But Southridge Hills, built by KB Home, is not your typical residential project.

The housing development site was formerly home to a U.S. Naval Air Station bombing range, and the decades-old legacy of its military use has resurfaced in the form of controversy, lawsuits and a large-scale cleanup project.

While one KB Home Web site promotes "spacious floor plans" and "easy access to highways," a separate KB Home Web site describes ongoing cleanup efforts at the site. Information at that site states, "KB Home continues to strongly believe that this property is appropriate for community living," but also cautions, "Southridge residents who find what they think is ordnance should simply leave it alone and call 911."

The development area was once known as Five Points Field Outlying Field, a training ground for military pilots during the 1940s that included a practice bombing range. KB, after meeting with the Army Corps of Engineers in 1998, acquired the property and began to build and sell homes at the site in 2000. In addition to building homes in Texas, KB home also has operations in California, Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado, Illinois, Florida, Georgia and North Carolina.

The Southridge Hills development area is nearly fully built, with the last homes scheduled for completion before the year is out. KB Home is the largest builder in Texas in terms of the number of units built, and Southridge Hills "has been one of our highest selling communities all the way through," said David Christian, president of the Fort Worth division for KB Home.

"There are a lot of happy homeowners," Christian added. "(Homes) continue to sell at a fast pace."

Meanwhile, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is carrying out a cleanup operation throughout the development area. Dwayne Ford, manager for the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Formerly Used Defense Sites program, said this week that crews toting high-tech metal detectors are scanning the Southridge Hills development area in search of buried metal objects, and excavation of suspected bombs is expected to begin in August.

"They're covering the entire site with geophysics instruments. They will take that (data) to the office and run that with some processing to try to weed out roofing nails and pieces of barbed wire. They will focus on excavating items that we think are potentially ordnance items," Ford said. The excavation process will be decidedly low-tech, with crews digging up suspected ordnance by hand, he added.

The scope of the $1 million cleanup is expected to be limited to those areas at the site that are not covered by driveways, roads and foundations, and to those areas where residents allow access to their private property. "Ordnance, unlike environmental contaminants, require some type of human interaction before they're a problem," Ford said. Mark 23 practice bombs, which weigh about 3 pounds, are 8 inches long and carry a small explosive charge to aid pilots in spotting where the bombs landed, are possibly present at the site, based on "records and anecdotal evidence," he added.

Unexploded bombs that may be present at the site could have the potential to injure or kill people, according to Army Corps of Engineers reports.

In 1983, during the construction of a 35-acre mobile home park at the former Five Points site, work was halted when a practice bomb was discovered there. A cleanup on that site followed, and an estimated 3,000 practice bombs were recovered from that portion of the site.

During a workshop in 2002, a KB Home representative "stated that his subcontractors had found 26 (Mark 23) practice bombs," and "an attorney representing approximately 80 homeowners in Southridge Hills stated that he had nine (Mark 23) practice bombs in his possession," according to an Army Corps of Engineers report. Other bombs types were reportedly dropped at the site include the 100-pound M38A2 practice bomb and practice versions of the M47 chemical bomb.

A group of about 190 current and former residents of Southridge Hills are parties to a lawsuit against KB Home, as well as a land development company and an environmental consulting company that also were involved in the project. The lawsuit charges that there was inadequate disclosure about the development site's former use as a bombing rang. A hearing is scheduled in a Texas court next month.

Marcel W. Weiner, the lead lawyer in this civil lawsuit, filed in 2001, said this week that he now possesses about a dozen practice bombs recovered from the development area, and he plans to use them as evidence in the lawsuit. Weiner represents about 81 families and 140 individuals, he said, and other homeowners have joined the case represented by other lawyers, for a total of about 190 individuals and about 150 families. Some residents want money back and they want the builder to buy their homes back and to pay their legal fees, he said, and some homeowners are seeking damages for the diminished value of their homes.

One homeowner, Thea King-Lewis, who is named as a plaintiff in that lawsuit, was also involved in a separate lawsuit against KB Home that related to construction problems with her Southridge Hills home. King-Lewis' separate lawsuit has been resolved and her home has reportedly been bought back. A KB Home spokesman said the buy-back was not related to the homeowners' disclosure lawsuit.

According to court documents, King-Lewis stated in a sworn affidavit that she was approached in 2002 by Victor Toledo, a KB Home representative who allegedly "did attempt to coerce, bribe, induce, manipulate and persuade me to sign…false affidavits." She also reported that Toledo "was unquestionably clear in his attempts to harass and force my family and me into submission by the offer of financial compensation as an inducement, in exchange for my signature on a false affidavit, which would be used to give witness against Janet Ahmad in his pursuit of future criminal actions against her."

Ahmad, the leader of a home buyers' advocacy group, HomeOwners for Better Building, is also entangled in the legal morass relating to Southridge Hills and homeowner complaints against KB Home. Ahmad was investigated by a grand jury and was indicted for allegedly fabricating the discovery of a bomb at the housing site, but in late May the Tarrant County district attorney's office cleared Ahmad of all charges.

Ahmad said this week that KB had "been doing a lot of creative writing…they are between Disney and Hollywood with the creative writing," she said. In any case, the charges have "been dropped and I'm so thankful for that," she said.

King-Lewis said, "I'm very happy for her. That's all I can say."

Mark Daniel, a lawyer representing Ahmad, said in a statement, "It is regrettable that KB Home sought to bring a baseless criminal prosecution in an effort to gain leverage and silence her efforts. I respect the district attorney for acknowledging that this matter did not constitute criminal activity."

Christian of KB Home said that a grand jury, not KB Home, "found a reason to indict Ms. Ahmad." KB Home, though, has filed a $20 million civil lawsuit against Ahmad and others, alleging defamation and trade disparagement, and that lawsuit has not yet reached trial. That lawsuit relates to a protest waged by homeowners and others near a KB Home sales center.

Blke36
04-22-2005, 02:17 PM
they cliam its not live, but they claimed it wasnt suppose to be anything htere either. I am renting a metal detector this weekend and waiting on what happens next. i'm just frustrated as heck, you bust your ass to buy a house to get screwed by corp. america

Sadly that seems to be the case more often than not. Some good friends bought a new townhouse in IL from a major builder (Pasquinelli I think), only to find out they cut corners in the bracing and whatnot. Luckily they managed to get out without losing their shirts but I think their neighbors were going to sue. Can't blame them, I'd be pissed too if my $200K townhouse could come crashing down because the builder was a cheapass.

Nics
04-22-2005, 04:03 PM
Damn, that's fucked up. But yeah, you probably have neighbors that are thinking the same thing, so ask around and maybe you can jump in on the lawsuit too.

Oh, and about the James Mallory thing, sorry. I didn't know he was Tarrant County'ish only. But never hurts to call and ask, because I heard he did cover Dallas at one point.

weaksauce
04-23-2005, 08:53 PM
Good thing you didn't hit one of those while building your deck.....You think the air nailer was bad....