View Full Version : Death: M3/4 vs white FD Rx-7


RRdawho?
04-10-2005, 11:52 PM
Was coming home from the beach last night when I came up to a very nice,clean looking RX-7. It was white, lowered, and from what I could tell visually had an exhaust.

Me: M3/4 170k miles, 1 passenger, cooking grill, lots of beach stuff, and a bandpass box holding 2 solobarics.

Him: White Rx-7 FD, only him (small asian dude)

Watcher: My friends driving in their VW Vanagon w/ a mind blowing 89hp

We were off at 60mph me and 3rd gear, I could tell her floored it since all the black smoke that came out of his rear. We started w/ my front being at his rear bumper, not quite equal. Did 2 runs, both up to 135mph, he had 1 1/2 car length on me. Seemed like a cool guy, the hazards were kinda gay though.

Needless to say, I killed the vanagon ;)

Im still happy about the M's performance either way :)

Halon
04-11-2005, 04:07 AM
well his car is only like 2300 pounds... give or take 100. And they can make some impressive numbers just stock - then they take to mods like a fish to water - all combining to make a very potent vehicle.

p.s. - he probally would have had you in the twisties. :(

toopercentmlk
04-11-2005, 04:14 AM
wow you got killed, but he probably broke down on the way home.. and im not even hating. haha. when those things arent winning, theyre getting fixed.

Halon
04-11-2005, 04:54 AM
wow you got killed, but he probably broke down on the way home.. and im not even hating. haha. when those things arent winning, theyre getting fixed.

daily driver > Daily fixer.

I've heard at higher HP lvls that they destroy turbos pretty reliably. :(

shim
04-11-2005, 05:55 AM
FD's weigh around 2700 lbs. yes, if you boost hard on the stock 2mm apex seals, they will fail. you can either upgrade to 3mm apex seals or get much better 2mm apex seals & boost the hell out of it. then it will be reliable & unstoppable. lol

shmoo
04-11-2005, 07:46 AM
wow you got killed, but he probably broke down on the way home.. and im not even hating. haha. when those things arent winning, theyre getting fixed.


Yeah, they break down often because people don't tune them correctly. They just want more HP and keep adding stuff without proper tunning or strengthening.

Tuned and built right they can be reliable, like most tuned cars.

giterdone
04-11-2005, 07:48 AM
those cars can be quite reliable. If you just do reliabilty mods. But heat is what kills them. People will work them up to like 400hp, and then pop their engine, then get a new engine, and put the exact same set up, and wonder why they pop the new engine in 20k miles.

Jean-Claude
04-11-2005, 08:39 AM
lol even the "reliable" fd's are not so reliable.

giterdone
04-11-2005, 09:03 AM
lol even the "reliable" fd's are not so reliable.
you obviously don't know FD's that well. There are many FD's with just reliability mods done, that are on original factory turbos and engine, with 150k on the clock and daily driven. It is just rare that only reliability mods are done. Boost bug bites FD owners hard.

oldM3r
04-11-2005, 09:12 AM
If he only pulled a 1.5 cars on you to 130 he was probably stock. My old FD with some mods :) would have put more than that on my m5.

RRdawho?
04-11-2005, 10:25 AM
If he only pulled a 1.5 cars on you to 130 he was probably stock. My old FD with some mods :) would have put more than that on my m5.

Thats what I figured. Either way, it was a fun run. Remember mine is a sedan, he's a sport car :devillook

Jean-Claude
04-11-2005, 10:59 AM
you obviously don't know FD's that well. There are many FD's with just reliability mods done, that are on original factory turbos and engine, with 150k on the clock and daily driven. It is just rare that only reliability mods are done. Boost bug bites FD owners hard.


I lurked on rx-7 boards for about a year. The feeling I got was that you need to spend quite a bit of money on these "realiability mods" and that maintenance was needed VERY often and was quite pricey. The stock motors last on avarage what? 80k miles before a rebuild is needed? People can form their own opinion about that kind of reliability.

giterdone
04-11-2005, 11:08 AM
I lurked on rx-7 boards for about a year. The feeling I got was that you need to spend quite a bit of money on these "realiability mods" and that maintenance was needed VERY often and was quite pricey. The stock motors last on avarage what? 80k miles before a rebuild is needed? People can form their own opinion about that kind of reliability.
lol reliability mods are not that expensive. They are basic mods, and just hte beginning of really modding that motor. It involved getting an aluminum radiator, putting in a hi-flow cat, an aftermarket cat back, a downpipe and like 3mm apex seals and a couple other small things. It boosted HP about 20-30hp more at the crank. Those engines don't need a rebuild at 80k usually.
But like I said, most people get bit by the boost bug very hard, and just wnat more HP, and they often time don't have the money to have professionals install and tune, and they are doing it themselves, and overload their engine. Maintenance is needed, but it isn't anything big. Standard maintenance. Only time you need major maintenance all the time, is when you are getting into doing major modding and things are constantly going wrong with the car. They are great vehicles, and if they replace their twin turbo setup for one big turbo they are already more reliable there, because they are no where as hot.

giterdone
04-11-2005, 11:26 AM
but also if you want to learn a bit, read this thread, me and FDNewbie went back and forth for quite awhile talking about them.

just got spanked, and I liked it (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=324238&)