Went down south last weekend to pick up my car (Jetta 1.8T) after getting some work done to it there.
I was handed the keys along with ½ tank of blue/purple juice, and headed out for some road testing.
We picked a nice stretch of fairly empty highway to do some power pulls and test turbo lag/boost/rpm levels vs. few other fairly moded cars.

On the way back going the speed limit, another pack of cars caught up with us as we’re still fooling around just doing some crusing gear pulls here and there, a green 325I w/tints comes up from behind flying on the shoulder wanting some of the action.

I was ahead of the pack, as he lined up next to me, ..... I blipped the throttle down shifting into 3rd waiting for him to go, .. he guns it right away.

I waited until he had 1-1.5 CL on me before I went for it.

Reeled him quick and started passing him shifting into 4th
The road up a head was wide open empty (love southern roads) so I just went through the rest of the gears @ WOT
After pulling few city blocks on him and the rive limter reminding me it’s still there,... I quickly peek at my Speedo hanging in the 160+ range, I back off and let it roll back down to speed limit.

My exit was coming up, 1.5- 2 miles ahead, ….. at the point where I was half way up the exit ramp, he caught up flying in the left lane.
Got back to the shop speechless with a big smile on my face.

Just curious since I am new to this.
A 1.8 liter engine will power that car to 160 miles an hour?
Impressive.
And what is the "blue juice" that you mentioned?
Your car obviously has had extensive engine, suspension, computer work?
Was the 325i in stock form or had it also received modification?

Just curious since I am new to this.
A 1.8 liter engine will power that car to 160 miles an hour?
Impressive.
And what is the "blue juice" that you mentioned?
Your car obviously has had extensive engine, suspension, computer work?
Was the 325i in stock form or had it also received modification?

1.8 with GT28rs turbo, built bottom pistons/rods, intake manni, ported & polished head
RS4 T/B, tranny work w/lsd, and few other things
The blue/purple juice is unladed 104 octane, It dynoed 391+ whp on it, and 350whp on 93
And looks somewhat stock :)
http://forum.vwsport.com/pics/data/500/0DSC08927-med.JPG
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http://forum.vwsport.com/pics/data/500/0DSC08906-med.JPG

391wHP? :eek: You should be picking on something faster than the 325. Go find some E46 M3 or Vettes.

I don't know about the whole 160MPH...I call a BS on that. Even highly modded with that HP, the car has serious issues with speeds that high and is somewhat drag limited prior to that and would take some time to really pull. And with the wheel gap you are sporting I have a hard time believing the car remains stable anywhere near those speeds. With a turbo pushing that kind of power I imagine the 1.5 carlengths was you waiting to spool up the turbo...

I don't know about the whole 160MPH...I call a BS on that. Even highly modded with that HP, the car has serious issues with speeds that high and is somewhat drag limited prior to that and would take some time to really pull. And with the wheel gap you are sporting I have a hard time believing the car remains stable anywhere near those speeds. With a turbo pushing that kind of power I imagine the 1.5 carlengths was you waiting to spool up the turbo...

Dude...nearly 400whp and you dont think his light car can hit 160? His car is the talk of the country right now with regards to 1.8t tuning.

391wHP? :eek: You should be picking on something faster than the 325. Go find some E46 M3 or Vettes.

my 250whp is enough to knock out an E46 m3. This car needs to be looking for E55's, Rs6's, porsche turbos, etc.

Dude...nearly 400whp and you dont think his light car can hit 160? His car is the talk of the country right now with regards to 1.8t tuning.
So 400 WHP at full boost at WOT in 3rd gear. Light? Car weighs the same as an E36 around 3000 lbs plus. This would be pushing the absolute limit of the top speed of these cars that I have ever read. I would be very surprised if he made it to 160 and I can't imagine how long it would take to go from 120-160.
Not to mention the high speed stability at that point isn't great.
Plus unless he fitted a new 6spd tranny I am not sure he would even have gearing for this.

my 250whp is enough to knock out an E46 m3. This car needs to be looking for E55's, Rs6's, porsche turbos, etc.
Ha ha ha. I would like to see that. Have you seen the drivability of these cars and the time to produce boost as compared to the cars you are speaking of. I know people with only a stage 3 that were destroying their tranny and driveshafts regularly. 1.8BillyT I think was the guy with the most impressive drag 1.8T. He spend a load of cash and got a sequential gear box of some sort.

Torque Steer 0wn5 j00. :wave

my 250whp is enough to knock out an E46 m3. This car needs to be looking for E55's, Rs6's, porsche turbos, etc.
Your not talking about the guy that was at gainesville that i beat the one day are you? I dont know man, you told me high 13s you were able to run, and M3's should run low 13's. The guy that i race sure you could beat, but your beating the driver, not the car.

Your not talking about the guy that was at gainesville that i beat the one day are you? I dont know man, you told me high 13s you were able to run, and M3's should run low 13's. The guy that i race sure you could beat, but your beating the driver, not the car.

You are not remembering correctly. I said the car is good for high 12s. I ran high 13s on my last turbo which was half the size of my current setup.

I'm sure that my car is faster then an M3. I even have the M3 ZCP to prove it!

Ha ha ha. I would like to see that. Have you seen the drivability of these cars and the time to produce boost as compared to the cars you are speaking of. I know people with only a stage 3 that were destroying their tranny and driveshafts regularly. Billy1.8T I think was the guy with the most impressive drag 1.8T. He spend a load of cash and got a sequential gear box of some sort.

I get full boost at 3800rpm. I think the GT28RS hits full spool by 4200ish if Im not mistaken?

My car has stock like driveability. No hiccups, farts, rough idle, etc. The APR kits are AWESOME.

I get full boost at 3800rpm. I think the GT28RS hits full spool by 4200ish if Im not mistaken?

My car has stock like driveability. No hiccups, farts, rough idle, etc. The APR kits are AWESOME.
I am glad you like it. From my experience I do not share your blinding enthusiasm.
The car's suspension is not set up well, its high speed stability and cornering under throttle, regardless of LSD are not impressive, and unless you have custom gearing and or racelogic traction control the car won't be fun to daily drive.

Now come on everyone. Let's just be happy for the guy that he has a cool car now if I may say so myself, and he is a fellow German engineered car owner. I've hit 145-147 in my e46 325i. That was with exhaust, CAI,software, and pullies. I'm sure with all his mods he could do 160+. Either way nice kill to a much lesser car. I definitely reccommend picking on someone with your own abilities though lol, although it sounds like the 325i started it.

Nice kill :buttrock

oldschool:
There was a VW mk1 golf(rabbit) that hit 305km/h. A mk4 jetta is much heavier, more aerodynamic, and stabile at those speeds, and it has both the power and gearing to go 160. I don't see why it's so hard to belive the jetta hit 160mph, it's not even that impressive. I've seen a mk3 jetta hitting 182mph on a gps.
Eitherway, that e36 got embarassed, and your e36 would get embarassed as well.
As for Billy, he never got a sequential gearbox... He just built a mk2 golf 1.8T that runs 10s in the 1/4 mile and is still street driven
http://www.torontostreetracing.com/online/showthread.php?t=4334

Nice kill :buttrock

oldschool:
There was a VW mk1 golf(rabbit) that hit 305km/h. A mk4 jetta is much heavier, more aerodynamic, and stabile at those speeds, and it has both the power and gearing to go 160. I don't see why it's so hard to belive the jetta hit 160mph, it's not even that impressive. I've seen a mk3 jetta hitting 182mph on a gps.
Eitherway, that e36 got embarassed, and your e36 would get embarassed as well.
As for Billy, he never got a sequential gearbox... He just built a mk2 golf 1.8T that runs 10s in the 1/4 mile and is still street driven
http://www.torontostreetracing.com/online/showthread.php?t=4334

:( Too bad Billy T. just toasted his stock motor @35psi
Yes 490whp on stock 1.8T block/pistons/rods :eek:
He'll be back :)

BTW, it pulled to 160+ in the same time it takes E36 m3 to get up to 120 ;)

Hey is there any chance you were at h20 in 2003? I was cruising around with a mk4 jetta with bora badges, and im pretty sure the guy was from NJ....

Dude...nearly 400whp and you dont think his light car can hit 160? His car is the talk of the country right now with regards to 1.8t tuning.

Why is his car the talk of the country?

Also for those who think this is the max power of the 1.8t, heres some awhp for ya.

http://forums.audiworld.com/performance/msgs/73307.phtml

Props to 18bora

Nice kill :buttrock

oldschool:
There was a VW mk1 golf(rabbit) that hit 305km/h. A mk4 jetta is much heavier, more aerodynamic, and stabile at those speeds, and it has both the power and gearing to go 160. I don't see why it's so hard to belive the jetta hit 160mph, it's not even that impressive. I've seen a mk3 jetta hitting 182mph on a gps.
Eitherway, that e36 got embarassed, and your e36 would get embarassed as well.
As for Billy, he never got a sequential gearbox... He just built a mk2 golf 1.8T that runs 10s in the 1/4 mile and is still street driven
http://www.torontostreetracing.com/online/showthread.php?t=4334
that's an ignorant statement, of course a highly modded jetta will embarass a stock E36. Let's put it this way, a highly modded 325i with turbo will also embarass a stock jetta even more. Stock 325i will embarass Stock Jetta.

i would love to battle one of these built 1.8t's down the highway but all the ones i find just have the apr chip and think there awesome till they get beat by 5 car lengths till i get off it. btw my mirage isnt stock and if any 1.8t's think they can hang your more than welcome to see what a 4g63 in a 2100lb car can do. Although i do believe props is in order for the blue jetta and the black audi both are beautiful cars

1.8 with GT28rs turbo, built bottom pistons/rods, intake manni, ported & polished head
RS4 T/B, tranny work w/lsd, and few other things
The blue/purple juice is unladed 104 octane, It dynoed 391+ whp on it, and 350whp on 93
And looks somewhat stock :)
http://forum.vwsport.com/pics/data/500/0DSC08927-med.JPG
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http://forum.vwsport.com/pics/data/500/0DSC08906-med.JPG
those tires you are using are probably not for high speed driving, I think it would be dangerous if you go over 120 mph on those high profile tires.

that's an ignorant statement, of course a highly modded jetta will embarass a stock E36. Let's put it this way, a highly modded 325i with turbo will also embarass a stock jetta even more. Stock 325i will embarass Stock Jetta.


A stock gli will beat a stock 325.

Eitherway, that e36 got embarassed, and your e36 would get embarassed as well.
First off, I don't illegally and stupidly race tools on the highway at speeds over 120mph. Second, a Jetta, regardless of modification will never "embarrass" my car. Sorry. It isn't possible.

As far as 160mph and gearing and high speed stability, unfortunately with the suspension in the picture posted in this thread the Jetta will not be stable at those speeds. A FWD understeer queen on 16s, without a good deal of suspension tuning is a jerky, wheel spinning spectacle. It takes a lot to prep a car with that suspension geometry for that kind of power much less acceptable handling. And as for the 160mph, I would like to see proof or at least see the gearing of the car. Without a 6 speed, it would take some effort to get the gearing to go to 160 easily and quickly.

that's an ignorant statement, of course a highly modded jetta will embarass a stock E36. Let's put it this way, a highly modded 325i with turbo will also embarass a stock jetta even more. Stock 325i will embarass Stock Jetta.


A stock gli will beat a stock 325.
you relaly gotta learn to use the quote button. Your posts confuse me some. :)


Why is 160 on 400whp hard to believe? a Stock e36 M3 with a chip (to remove govern) can hit 160. That has about 200whp, and doesnt have great aerodynamics.

Why is his car the talk of the country?

Also for those who think this is the max power of the 1.8t, heres some awhp for ya.

http://forums.audiworld.com/performance/msgs/73307.phtml

Props to 18bora

Simply becuase it was at the APR bbq as the demo car for the APR built motors. APR has not even released any of the parts he has on his car.

A stock gli will beat a stock 325.

It won't.

I have Futura performance tires on it, the guy at Pep Boys told me they’re good for speeds over 100. :conf
And the car sits that way because I cut an extra loop of the back springs by mistake.

J/K, Bridgetones S03 tires, and Koni coils around.

I have Futura performance tires on it, the guy at Pep Boys told me they’re good for speeds over 100. :conf
And the car sits that way because I cut an extra loop of the back springs by mistake.

J/K, Bridgetones S03 tires, and Koni coils around.
:rofl lol, I thought you were being serious for a second.

Well cool. At least you have a decent suspension and tires....
doesn't appear that way in the picture...

I have Futura performance tires on it, the guy at Pep Boys told me they’re good for speeds over 100. :conf
And the car sits that way because I cut an extra loop of the back springs by mistake.

J/K, Bridgetones S03 tires, and Koni coils around.

PEP BOYS!!! DUDE th3y @r3 lik3 t3h g0d'5 0f @LL p3rf0rm@nc3!!!

Yeah i thought you were serious for a moment until i finished reading it.

my 250whp is enough to knock out an E46 m3. This car needs to be looking for E55's, Rs6's, porsche turbos, etc.


lets not be so hasty...........anyways congrats on the 391 whp

lets not be so hasty...........anyways congrats on the 391 whp

I dont know what part was hasty?

I dont know what part was hasty?
aye ima bit confused also. :)

DTM bimmer is saying that you cant take e46m3's mmart.. Thats what he meant/

DTM bimmer is saying that you cant take e46m3's mmart.. Thats what he meant/

meh. Id hate to beat a dead horse.

yea like lets not get ahead of oursleves here....ur saying how u can knock out an E46 M3 like its piece of cake.......and how the guy with the 391hp should go hunting E55's and porsche turbos.....i mean come on lets get real.......but like i said in my last post congrats on the 391hp........

Im not trying to starty anything, but i only saw you running 14's the one day......

And im not trying to say your lying, but i cant remember what you mph's were, i didnt think they were that high.

i think you saw him when he was running his k04 which is a very very very small turbo.

I saw him like 2 months ago. He just said he told me he said that he ran 12's when he saw me, and he was running 14's because of a hazed clutch he said. The thing i was asking him was what his trap speeds were, cause i cant remember what they were but i didnt think that they were high 100's which would be about right for a 12second car.

I saw him like 2 months ago. He just said he told me he said that he ran 12's when he saw me, and he was running 14's because of a hazed clutch he said. The thing i was asking him was what his trap speeds were, cause i cant remember what they were but i didnt think that they were high 100's which would be about right for a 12second car.

Yup...had a shotty clutch at the time. Since been replaced.

Bring your car on up here, I dont have a problem with any demonstrations.

My traps that day were in the low 100s and I was on pump gas.

Alright, thats what i wanted to know, i really thought you said 13's which is why i didnt think you'd take an e46 m3. If you do run 12's than you'll definatly take it, and there is no argument about it.

Also i will be up to gainesville yet again sometime, but right now im fixing the car. You'll have to run the green cobra that i was with that day. He's getting some headwork and high comp pistons in the car now and he should be good for low 13's to high 12's when its all said and done.

i think you saw him when he was running his k04 which is a very very very small turbo.
what do u know? u just joined in jan 2005

Alright, thats what i wanted to know, i really thought you said 13's which is why i didnt think you'd take an e46 m3. If you do run 12's than you'll definatly take it, and there is no argument about it.

Also i will be up to gainesville yet again sometime, but right now im fixing the car. You'll have to run the green cobra that i was with that day. He's getting some headwork and high comp pistons in the car now and he should be good for low 13's to high 12's when its all said and done.

Better make it soon, I'm movin' outta this dump may 1st.

after doing some research,

I found that assuming he's using his stock rims, stock tire size, stock gear ratios and stock final drive ratios, he's not able to reach more than 145 mph.

Wow, very impressive. I will look at jettas a bit differently now. lol

Better make it soon, I'm movin' outta this dump may 1st.
Where to? I may be moving back to Pennsylvania soon so who knows, i may never be back to gainesville, but id definatly have to see the ics racing crew than...

That car sounds mean! Congratulations!!
I dont understand all the fuss...the car makes big power and appears to be setup nicely. Unfounded assumptions seem to be the main problem here.

As for top speed, do we know his gearing is still stock? (tranny and lsd work)
Do we know what the redline is?
Do we know what the speedometer error is? If it is anything like most Bimmers, then 160mph indicated could = 150mph actual speed.

Doesn't vwvortex have a kill section?

Good kill I guess a turbo'd VW with a lot of extensive work vs a probably stockish e36 wow. woopdie do turbo the the e36 or any e36 and It will be a better race(my moneys on the straight six). wow these VW and glorified VW(audi) owners I bet there is a forum out there just for you. Go to it and post your kills that are so Impressive Yes audi 1.8t your car probably will beat a stock e46 m3. (stock)

I think he is introducing his car to you guys more then he is telling you guys about a kill, dont be such an A**

Damn man, nice ride. I have to say (in defense of the Audi/Vdub guys) that those cars are no joke. My friend has a well set-up Passat with Bilstein/Neuspeed shocks and springs with a Neuspeed 28mm rear sway that he just installed and DAMN that car handles well now. After the chip (it's a 1.8t), it's a pretty strong and nimble ride.
I have no problem believing that car can do what he says it can.

im going to go ahead and jump into this shit storm and defend volkswagens, because i have owned alot and been around them since i was 16. a 1.8t with a k03 sport with software n75 wastegate valve divertor valve downpipe exhaust intake running 20 psi is a damn fast car. My friend has all of the above mods and can stay right next to my 227 whp m3 till around 85 mph, this is one of the reasons im going fi, hes too damn close. My old roomate had a big turbo 1.8t jetta that put down 360 whp and i will tell u right now i have been 155 more than a few times in that car, how about i dig a video up for the doubters, i love my bmws but dont underestimate volkswagens for a second, fwd isnt all that but they are def. very capable of surpassing our "m" cars with the right mods

bah...bottom line: supposed fastest 1.8T in America owner posts on Bimmerforums to talk about beating a stock 325. Lame.
Based on my experience, and the rather shady description of actual mods on the car and deceptively stock looking suspension in the pic, I have doubts about the 160mph and how easily it is reached. It could be possible, but not enough info is given.
As far as whether a 1.8T or really any car for that matter can hit 12s or 10s 1/4 mile times is simply a matter of money. Talking about embarrassing people's cars is lame, but seriously talking like a MK4 VW is ready to battle E46 M3s and Porsches and the like is a joke. Do you really want to compare only 1/4 mile against stock or roll on top speed highway runs? Surely you don't think that the E46 was designed with this as the main consideration or that people buying that car would likely consider a 1.8T Jetta a comparable car. Same goes for the Porsche. Have fun with you car. The engine bay at least looks nice and obviously you have some serious HP. Unfortunately you just picked the wrong car to go to that extreme with. That is my opinion obviously and I am entitled to it. I know a thing or two about VWs. I had a sponsorship from 1552. I spent over 4 years every day on the vortex and modding my car and have many friends who have highly modded VWs. I have known, raced, and ridden in the car with stage 3 and beyond 1.8Ts and I have known guys locally who work for authorized APR sellers and had extreme cars. I have set up group buys and done event days at a local APR auth seller's shop and had a chance to ride in and drive their top cars.
Once again, congrats, but check the attitude at the door if you want to come on a BMW forum and talk about embarrassing people.

This one is going downhill... watch the profanity please.

props to the engine. I used to have an APR chipped 1.8T and loved it. Lots of torque. Next steps asap: BRAKES and suspension work.

I think he is introducing his car to you guys more then he is telling you guys about a kill, dont be such an A**
This isn't his first post, I have already read a few of his threads where he beats E46 M3s and that is perfectly fine. I just think it would be odd for me to go post kills on honda tech when I beat a civic Si. Everyone knows stock 325i's are slow, heck, stock M3's are beginning to be slow by today's standards. It wasn't even as if the 325 driver was being a huge prick or anything, just a little immature. If the 325 driver was talking crap, then it was probably worthwhile to post.

I cant even believe how pathetic some of you sound. This guy just posted a (very believable) story of beating a Bimmer in a very fast Jetta. he has been nothing but pleasant in his postings and here we have a bunch of "locals" with aching man-gina's pissing and whining to try however they can to cut him down.
"Check your attitude"?! What a joke! Look who has the attitude. I see every manner of kill stories posted and his is neither more "lame" nor even as arrogant as the average kill story. Some of you guys need to grow the hell up! Freakin' pathetic!
PS: he has been posting here longer than most of you.

what do u know? u just joined in jan 2005

Just because his join date is the beginning of this year does not mean he hasn’t been here longer. I have been coming to these boards for years now, but I waited to register. Your statement has no relevance to the situation what so ever….

I cant even believe how pathetic some of you sound. This guy just posted a (very believable) story of beating a Bimmer in a very fast Jetta. he has been nothing but pleasant in his postings and here we have a bunch of "locals" with aching man-gina's pissing and whining to try however they can to cut him down.
"Check your attitude"?! What a joke! Look who has the attitude. I see every manner of kill stories posted and his is neither more "lame" nor even as arrogant as the average kill story. Some of you guys need to grow the hell up! Freakin' pathetic!
PS: he has been posting here longer than most of you.

I agree. He did not seem to come off as being arrogant or having an attitude. He just posted a kill that had to do with a BMW plain and simple.

P.S. Nice car and nice kill....

391+whp and picking on 325s?
at least pick on the 328...LOL!

I cant even believe how pathetic some of you sound. This guy just posted a (very believable) story of beating a Bimmer in a very fast Jetta. he has been nothing but pleasant in his postings and here we have a bunch of "locals" with aching man-gina's pissing and whining to try however they can to cut him down.
"Check your attitude"?! What a joke! Look who has the attitude. I see every manner of kill stories posted and his is neither more "lame" nor even as arrogant as the average kill story. Some of you guys need to grow the hell up! Freakin' pathetic!
PS: he has been posting here longer than most of you.
agreed, it was nearly elitist in here. :)

im going to go ahead and jump into this shit storm and defend volkswagens, because i have owned alot and been around them since i was 16. a 1.8t with a k03 sport with software n75 wastegate valve divertor valve downpipe exhaust intake running 20 psi is a damn fast car. My friend has all of the above mods and can stay right next to my 227 whp m3 till around 85 mph, this is one of the reasons im going fi, hes too damn close. My old roomate had a big turbo 1.8t jetta that put down 360 whp and i will tell u right now i have been 155 more than a few times in that car, how about i dig a video up for the doubters, i love my bmws but dont underestimate volkswagens for a second, fwd isnt all that but they are def. very capable of surpassing our "m" cars with the right mods

Dig up that vid! :buttrock

I think he is introducing his car to you guys more then he is telling you guys about a kill, dont be such an A**

Watch the attacks, this is not the first time I've had to warn you about conduct here, but it might be the last time...

im going to go ahead and jump into this shit storm and defend volkswagens, because i have owned alot and been around them since i was 16. a 1.8t with a k03 sport with software n75 wastegate valve divertor valve downpipe exhaust intake running 20 psi is a damn fast car. My friend has all of the above mods and can stay right next to my 227 whp m3 till around 85 mph, this is one of the reasons im going fi, hes too damn close. My old roomate had a big turbo 1.8t jetta that put down 360 whp and i will tell u right now i have been 155 more than a few times in that car, how about i dig a video up for the doubters, i love my bmws but dont underestimate volkswagens for a second, fwd isnt all that but they are def. very capable of surpassing our "m" cars with the right mods
No profanity