View Full Version : AA S/C M3 vs. MB C230 AMG??
96INFMSM3 04-08-2005, 02:41 AM So I was coming home from my girlfriend's house tonight, just cruising along at the speed limit, about 50MPH. In my side view mirror I see a Mercedes Benz hatchback rapidly approaching in the left lane. I drop down to third and mash the throttle to the floor. He had about a 1/2 a car length on me by the time I downshifted and went WOT. It was at this point that I realized he had to be moderately to heavily modified. I noticed the AMG badge on the back, funny, I didn't know they made an AMG version of the sport coupe, maybe he just bought it on eBay or something.
I begin to reel him in, and then pass him, pull about two car lengths and let off at about 110MPH. His car sounded pretty mean. I could hear the supercharger whining and the exhaust sounded almost like a jet taking off. I was actually surprised at the performance of that car since I thought they were pretty slow.
So then we pull up next to each other at a stop light and I compliment him on how fast his car is and he replies, "It doesn't seem that fast to me." Modest answer, I can respect that. So he asks me if I'm a member of DTMpower.net. I told him I'm usually on bimmerforums. He makes a comment that his friend usually posts on both forums. Anyways, it was nice small talk, he was a pretty cool guy.
The light turns green and we both take off pretty slow. We're still kind of talking and I say, "Ready?", he nods, I'm still in first gear, I put up my hand signalling 1, 2, 3. Then I punch it with my engine already revving at about 3500RPM, perfect to get that nice first gear punch in. This time I pulled effortlessly on him and it looked like he gave up after about 7 carlengths when he realized it was hopeless. To his credit I think he had shifted to second while we were talking, but in my defense, he did have the three seconds that I signalled in order to shift back into first. In any case, the M3 came out on top, but I have major respect for that car, whatever car it was.
Edit: He said his friend had an Estoril M3 and used the screen name EstorilM. If he sees this maybe he can comment on his friend's mods and what model the car was.
coolcarlski 04-08-2005, 06:42 AM Nice run! I'd like to know what mods that MB 230k had as well. P.S.Just looked at your car pics.Very nice!You should have well over 300hp at the wheels.With the same kit I believe my buddy has 355hp at the wheels if I remember correctly.
giterdone 04-08-2005, 09:12 AM yeah I don't think they made an AMG edition 230 sport coupe. Just Kompressor. But maybe he bought AMG stuff and put hte badge one (like poeple do with dinan) :dunno. But I have seen EstorilM in the M3 series boards, so maybe he will come in here and comment.
onefast944turbo 04-08-2005, 09:25 AM Yeah there is no such thing as a 230 AMG.. Just the badge... I guess just cause its already F/i its pretty easy to mod, but honestly those things stock arent to slow either...NO BE ANYMEANS FAST, but i'd say will keep up with or beat any new racer..
FrankW 04-09-2005, 11:33 AM AMG badge adds 100hp!!! :buttrock :D
anywayz, I'd like to know what mods he has for the C-coupe too.
96INFMSM3 04-11-2005, 03:03 AM Bump, I wish EstorilM would comment on his friend's mods, etc.
sirtiger 04-11-2005, 04:29 PM isn't the 230 amg just like a sport pckg....
230 is quite slow... so slow it needs the kompressor thingy to push it
PrsnPED 04-11-2005, 10:28 PM IT WAS ME!!!!!!!!!!
hello there, I remember this well. When I raced you I had thought that your car was slightly modded as well, I remember my gf commented on how fast your car was and I'm used to losing to M3's so I was surprised when you told me it was supercharged and at cruising speed I could kinda hear the s/c whine on your car, sorry but my car is too loud for me to hear much of what's going on elsewhere. My car's bottom end is less than admirable, maybe I'd do better off a launch than a roll, but the higher the speed the better I do. Atleast I had an excuse for my gf for losing :D I've raced e36's and e46's I've beaten some e36s been neck and neck with others but the trend seems to be that they shit on me.
Mods? what are mods? j/k I don't have anything crazy, Just a crank pulley and an intercooler, and the badges don't forget that. But hold the flames cuz I bought the car new from dealer, not ebay: w/AMG rims, badges and H&R's. AND btw I took off the 0 the first week I had it like 3 years ago, cause the engine is a 2.3 liter not a 23.0 or a .230, zero made it messy lookin.
The exhaust is going to be changed in a couple of weeks to eisenmann, cuz its just obnoxiously loud right now.
I know who FrankW is from the benz forums, if you want a challenge you have to race his C 32 and forget about me, I'll never come close.
Btw there is a coupe AMG...tho only in europe (took a pic of one in france)...and its diesel...I think I can beat it :)
I'm assuming you got your supercharger from Jack at DAI, cuz every1 goes to him in the area, my friend Sina with the Estoril M3 goes to him like every week so you might've run into him b4, his car looks like an STI cuz he put a crazy wing on it, only one in OC that looks like that.
I'll see you driving again for sure, good race btw!
coloboardin 04-11-2005, 11:38 PM But hold the flames cuz I bought the car new from dealer, not ebay: w/AMG rims, badges and H&R's. AND btw I took off the 0 the first week I had it like 3 years ago, cause the engine is a 2.3 liter not a 23.0 or a .230, zero made it messy lookin.
umm if I'm not mistaken, your car is a 1.8L not a 2.3... no?
coolcarlski 04-11-2005, 11:54 PM umm if I'm not mistaken, your car is a 1.8L not a 2.3... no?I could be wrng but I thought both were available?
KL316 04-12-2005, 12:37 AM i think in 2003 they switched from 2.3l to 1.8l
but everything before 2003 was stilla 2.3
PrsnPED 04-12-2005, 01:09 AM Ya the 2003 and up C230's (sedan or coupe) are infact 1.8L, 2002 C230/Slk230 and under were 2.3L. There is also A C320 Coupe available now.
96INFMSM3 04-12-2005, 01:27 AM Yeah, I got my S/C from Jack although I think his installation and support left something to be desired. Eventually, between Jack, my Dad, me and other BMW owners we got the car running correctly. Anyways, we had an awesome run, and maybe one day I'll see how I do against a C32...
PrsnPED 04-12-2005, 01:48 AM I've talked to jack and I've hung around him more times than I'd care to admit, and personally I think him and his mini cooper suck balls. That guys an ass as far as im concerned. He cheats people any way he can unless he happens to like you for sum reason. His personality is shit, especially for his age.
I raced the guy who claims he has the fastest C32, its red with a carbon fiber hood and all I have to say is :eek: If you'd have given me 3/4 of a mile head start he would've beaten me to the mile mark. That guy passed me, my friends M3 and everyone else that came to the meet like we were in reverse.
I think he told me that his user name was NMM or MNM or something like that on mbworld.org
BTW, what do you do 0-60 or 1/4 mile? just curious
96INFMSM3 04-12-2005, 02:05 AM I've talked to jack and I've hung around him more times than I'd care to admit, and personally I think him and his mini cooper suck balls. That guys an ass as far as im concerned. He cheats people any way he can unless he happens to like you for sum reason. His personality is shit, especially for his age.
I raced the guy who claims he has the fastest C32, its red with a carbon fiber hood and all I have to say is :eek: If you'd have given me 3/4 of a mile head start he would've beaten me to the mile mark. That guy passed me, my friends M3 and everyone else that came to the meet like we were in reverse.
I think he told me that his user name was NMM or MNM or something like that on mbworld.org
BTW, what do you do 0-60 or 1/4 mile? just curious
I haven't taken my car to a 1/4 mile track and I don't have access to a G-Tech or anything like that so I can't say for sure. I'm going to guess mid to high 12s in the 1/4 mile and slightly under 5.0 seconds 0-60.
PrsnPED 04-12-2005, 02:38 AM This is my friends E36
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=328403
KL316 04-12-2005, 05:00 AM yea his name is NMM and i think he is a dirtbag. he takes things tells people he will return them and then you never hear from him again.
take caution when selling or buying anything from this guy
I've talked to jack and I've hung around him more times than I'd care to admit, and personally I think him and his mini cooper suck balls. That guys an ass as far as im concerned. He cheats people any way he can unless he happens to like you for sum reason. His personality is shit, especially for his age.
I raced the guy who claims he has the fastest C32, its red with a carbon fiber hood and all I have to say is :eek: If you'd have given me 3/4 of a mile head start he would've beaten me to the mile mark. That guy passed me, my friends M3 and everyone else that came to the meet like we were in reverse.
I think he told me that his user name was NMM or MNM or something like that on mbworld.org
BTW, what do you do 0-60 or 1/4 mile? just curious
giterdone 04-12-2005, 08:23 AM Hey PrsnPED, glad you chimed in. Gave us a bit of info, and always glad to see new members.
But edit the S words out of your post. They don't allow profanity in the main forums (Kill Stories is part of the main forums). I figured I'd tell ya now before one of hte mods come on, and have to give you a warning.
but welcome to the boards.
coolcarlski 04-12-2005, 02:35 PM This is my friends E36
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=328403Very nice car but the wing makes it look like a Subaru! :D
dinan325i 04-12-2005, 05:33 PM Yeah a few mods in a MB can make it decently fast being FI stock. I have a friend who might be on the mercedes benz website that was talked about earlier. He goes to school in Orlando. Anyway he drives a slk 230, but hes got the crank pulley upgrade also, and that gave him like a second. Hes also got intake and exhaust. Anyway for being an auto and stock 0-60 in 7.1, well hes pretty fast now. Definitely in the 5 second range. Which isnt bad for only 3 minor mods. I think with headers and software hed be pretty fast. WISH our bimmers were FI stock too lol :(
PrsnPED 04-12-2005, 05:52 PM My car has had its fair share of problems. I used to beat 330's stock then I had some engine problems, maybe software or combination of things. I changed my crank pulley to an alloy one and it messed up my car even worse, I returned it to stock and checked it out at dealer they found nothing, so I put on a stock pulley with a ring around it(the one I have on currently, heavier, doesnt boost as much, but safe!) The dealership eventually fixed the problem whatever it was, I drove 20,000 miles with my car being slow and me not knowing why, people beating me who I used to beat. Very frustrating. Especially when the 330 guy comes back or an auto C230 that I beat b4 end up killing me. I have a whole list of cars that I had walked come around and own me. The 95- 7 series, the SLK320 a 95 M3. Obviously that's fixed now, thank GOD, first time my car has felt any type of pull for a long time, think about half the time you have your car that you are driving like you cant breathe, no response of any kind. Can't wait to run into some more people.
As far as SLK230's they have my engine too, it's slightly different set up but I hear of people interchanging parts. Never raced a 230 though, and I'm sure the new SLK350 will eat me!
sorry for the profanity, Don't even realize it sometimes :)
I'm going to open another thread that I need input on, About my exhaust, I'd like your guys's inputs!
thanks
khewlkat 04-13-2005, 03:19 AM btw there is a coupe AMG...tho only in europe (took a pic of one in france)...and its diesel...I think I can beat it :)
clk55 is a coupe amg
PrsnPED 04-13-2005, 04:50 AM lol, ya there's those too, but I was refering to the C coupe AMG(C30 CDI)
coolcarlski, It says you have a '98 C 55 in your sig...just curious as to what you mean by that :) (I think you know what I'm talking about)
FrankW 04-13-2005, 05:52 AM lol, ya there's those too, but I was refering to the C coupe AMG(C30 CDI)
coolcarlski, It says you have a '98 C 55 in your sig...just curious as to what you mean by that :) (I think you know what I'm talking about)
there was a C32 sportscoupe as well. only 60 were ever made at ridiculous prices for Europe folks.
coolcarlski dropped a w210 E55 engine into his C43. Technically it's a modded C43, but whatevers...it has a 5.4 liter V8 :buttrock
MaloventEvil 04-13-2005, 06:24 AM there was a C32 sportscoupe as well. only 60 were ever made at ridiculous prices for Europe folks.
coolcarlski dropped a w210 E55 engine into his C43. Technically it's a modded C43, but whatevers...it has a 5.4 liter V8 :buttrock
now thats hot.
themadhatter 04-13-2005, 07:40 AM that is rare, not something you see with benzes where as many of us bimmer heads have a mess of motor swaps - myself included.
sorry for the profanity, Don't even realize it sometimes :)
I'm gonna give you some time to think about it.
:nono
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