Would you do the same thing if someone approached you at 4:30 am in your BMW? Assuming of course, if you had a pistol. Similar situation ever happened to any of you?

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/4354991/detail.html

Kind of ironic to me that he returns from Baghdad alive and well only to get shot and killed in downtown Atlanta.

Discuss. :D

Would you do the same thing if someone approached you at 4:30 am in your BMW? Assuming of course, if you had a pistol. Similar situation ever happened to any of you?

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/4354991/detail.html

Kind of ironic to me that he returns from Baghdad alive and well only to get shot and killed in downtown Atlanta.

Discuss. :D

The bad thing about this story is perhaps the guy that shot him was afraid he was about to get his ass totally kicked. After all the guy EXITED his own vehicle to 'confront' the guy in the pickup truck.
Personally....leaving your vehicle to confront another driver is not smart. If you further it by reaching into the persons vehicle or grabbing that person, start hitting on the person / vehicle and you get shot....hope I'm not on the jury...i'd let em walk.

With all the life's frustrations, most of us get a little offensive in our cars, but keep this in mind. Everything has to stop somewhere, specially the bad, sooner, the better. :)

Sorry, nothing but love for the Marines, God bless 'em, including all the ones in my family, but that was just a supremely dumbass thing to do. If you get out of your car and go stomping over to someone else's vehicle in a huff, you're not helping the sitation, you're aggravating and escalating it. It's completely reasonable to expect a threat is being posed, and I can't say I'd react any differently than the guy who stayed in his car, especially in the dark of 4:30 am.

Screaming and yelling about traffic stuff is the ultimate futility. Nowhere else in the world are you as equipped to get away from a fight as you are in a running car. Just cool off, and drive away. It just isn't worth it.

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DW

Take the fact he is a military man out of the equation and...

Some guy gets out of his car and is heading over to some other person's car all pissed off after screaming back and forth. No surprise the guy shot him. Not saying he deserved it, but I am not surprised in this day and age.

Sorry, nothing but love for the Marines, God bless 'em, including all the ones in my family, but that was just a supremely dumbass thing to do. If you get out of your car and go stomping over to someone else's vehicle in a huff, you're not helping the sitation, you're aggravating and escalating it. It's completely reasonable to expect a threat is being posed, and I can't say I'd react any differently than the guy who stayed in his car, especially in the dark of 4:30 am.

Screaming and yelling about traffic stuff is the ultimate futility. Nowhere else in the world are you as equipped to get away from a fight as you are in a running car. Just cool off, and drive away. It just isn't worth it.

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DW
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That guy was an idiot for getting out of his car. A) You never do that just because nowadays you never know who is packing, especially a ghetto thug.

Something similiar happend to me but it was a car jacking. It was in front of the Claremont Lounge off of Ponce de Leon around 3am. Crackhead with a revolver rushed me while I was in my car about to leave the club and I pulled out my 9mm and we both ended up exchanging rounds in front the the club.

That guy was an idiot for getting out of his car. A) You never do that just because nowadays you never know who is packing, especially a ghetto thug.

Where's the "B?"

;)

1) Dean, were you actually in the Claremont? :rofl

2) I'd have driven off when the guy got out of his car.

Even if that guy gets off on the murder charge if his weapon was illegal or he didn't have a permit to carry it, he's in big trouble. If he had a CCW and a legal handgun and he felt like his life was threatened, that'd be a different story. And if that were the case, he wouldn't have driven off after shooting a man in the face, I'm sure.

Matt

That's y I have tinted windows. I can cuss and scream all I want and nobody knows.

That guy was an idiot for getting out of his car. A) You never do that just because nowadays you never know who is packing, especially a ghetto thug.

Something similiar happend to me but it was a car jacking. It was in front of the Claremont Lounge off of Ponce de Leon around 3am. Crackhead with a revolver rushed me while I was in my car about to leave the club and I pulled out my 9mm and we both ended up exchanging rounds in front the the club.

Wow...both of you can't shoot straight! :D

Just bustin your chops...I know you were probably shitting your pants :eek:

1) Dean, were you actually in the Claremont? :rofl

2) I'd have driven off when the guy got out of his car.

Even if that guy gets off on the murder charge if his weapon was illegal or he didn't have a permit to carry it, he's in big trouble. If he had a CCW and a legal handgun and he felt like his life was threatened, that'd be a different story. And if that were the case, he wouldn't have driven off after shooting a man in the face, I'm sure.

Matt

Maybe he was out of ammo and needed to go get more just in case the guy was still moving...otherwise the agressor sues you in court and wins! :D

On the serious side....perhaps he just freaked and paniced, you do have to remember the dudes wife was with him, she probably started freaking to....nothing like a crazed female!

... if his weapon was illegal or he didn't have a permit to carry it, he's in big trouble. If he had a CCW and a legal handgun and he felt like his life was threatened, that'd be a different story.
Actually, last I checked, in Georgia, I don't think you don't need a CCW to keep a firearm in the car, as long as it's kept in plain sight, or in the glove box or console. Anywhere else you think of putting it out of sight though, you need a CCW.

One more reason not to get into altercations and/or micturating matches over traffic nonsense. :nono

Actually, last I checked, in Georgia, I don't think you don't need a CCW to keep a firearm in the car, as long as it's kept in plain sight, or in the glove box/console. Anywhere else you think of putting it out of sight though, you need a CCW.
Wow, in MD if you even have an unloaded gun in the car it needs to be out of your reach. Man, MD makes it hard to have guns.

Matt

One primary reason MD sucks. :devillook :rofl ;)


On the other hand, it does have that most excellent factory in Accokeek... :buttrock :cool

Bah, real Beretta's are made in Brescia, Italy.

Matt

If you have a gun in the vehicle, it must be in plain sight unless you have a ccw permit. Placing a gun inside a glove box or center console does not count for "in plain sight." Be on the safe side...if you plan on carrying a pistol anywhere outside of your home, get a permit.

If you have a gun in the vehicle, it must be in plain sight unless you have a ccw permit. Placing a gun inside a glove box or center console does not count for "in plain sight." Be on the safe side...if you plan on carrying a pistol anywhere outside of your home, get a permit.

You are wrong. I have a CCW so it doesn't matter to me but I didn't want other people misinformed. So go out there and kill some people!

CARRY

It is unlawful to carry a handgun or concealable firearm, openly or concealed, on or about one's person without a license to carry.

Exceptions: No license is required:

1. To carry a firearm, openly or concealed, in one's home or place of business.

2. To transport a firearm, unloaded, enclosed in a case and separated from ammunition, provided the possessor is not ineligible to obtain a license to carry.

3. To transport a loaded firearm in a private motor vehicle, provided it is carried in an open manner fully exposed to view, or is in the vehicle's glove compartment, console, or similar compartment.

4. To carry a firearm while hunting or fishing or sport shooting, provided the person so carrying has any necessary hunting or fishing license, and has written permission from the owner of the land on which the activity is being conducted, and provided any handgun is carried in an open and exposed manner.

A license to carry authorizes a person to carry a handgun on or about his person, openly or in certain enumerated concealed positions limited to: a shoulder holster, waist belt holster, any other holster, hip grip or similar device, in which event the weapon may be concealed by the person's clothing, or a handbag, purse, attaché case, briefcase, other closed container, or in any location in a motor vehicle. "Carrying on the person in a concealed manner other than as provided herein shall. . . be a violation."

The license to carry, valid for five years, is obtained by application under oath to the judge of the probate court of the county where the applicant resides. A $15.00 fee is payable upon application. Georgia law specifically provides that the application form "shall not require non-pertinent nor irrelevant data" from the applicant "such as serial numbers or other identification capable of being used as a de facto registration of firearms owned by the applicant."

No license will be issued to:

1. Anyone under 21 years of age.

2. Any person who is a fugitive from justice or who has felony charges, forcible misdemeanor or weapons violations charges pending against him.

3. Any person convicted of a felony who has not been pardoned by the President, the States Board of Pardons and Paroles, or any person or agency empowered to grant pardons.

4. Any person convicted of forcible misdemeanor who has not been free of supervision for at least five years.

5. Any person convicted of a weapons carrying violation, who has not been free of supervision for at least three years.

6. Any person who has been hospitalized for in patient treatment in any mental hospital or alcohol or drug treatment center within five years of the date of application.

7. Any person who has been convicted of a controlled substance or other dangerous drug offense.

Well, let's put it this way, Dean. If you want less trouble from the police, keep it in plain sight...that way it doesn't look like you are hiding anything. This comes from three different police officers that I am acquaintances with.

But, in your case...since you're a thug, you don't have to worry one bit. ;)

Before I got my CCW, I kept my Sig in my glove box and never had a problem with the police. I usually told them after they pull me over that I have a pistol in my glove box. And if somebody isn't hiding anything, then it doesn't matter where they keep it as long as it's within the law.

It doesn't matter where they keep it as long as it's within the law.
Just because it's within the law does not mean that cops have to like it. If it were me and I didn't have a CCW, then I'd like the least amount of trouble with the police if I did have a firearm in the vehicle.

Just my $0.02. Take it or leave it.

Just because it's within the law does not mean that cops have to like it. If it were me and I didn't have a CCW, then I'd like the least amount of trouble with the police if I did have a firearm in the vehicle.

Just my $0.02. Take it or leave it.
I'm not understanding the 'trouble' you keep mentioning. What trouble can a cop give you for not breaking the law? They run your plate when they pull you over, check insurance and reg., and check the DL. If it comes clean all he can do is give you a ticket and send you on your merry way. If he asks to search your car, say no and he can't.