Had an awesome time driving to school this morning. The weather is beautiful, blue skies, 75, and I was in kind of a hurry as I had left about 20 minutes late for class.

As I entered a 10 mile rural area that seperates Philadelphia from where I go to school (In Media, south of Philly), I managed to hit a light with a shiny black Z4. Young white kid was driving with some sort of raunchy rap music blasting. Light turned green, I thought nothing of it and took of rather fast (as I was in a hurry), shifting at 4k or so. A few seconds later I saw a redlight coming up, and I saw that the guy with the Z4 was catching up in a hurry, and ended up next to me. I smiled, still not seriously thinking he was going to race me, and took of with no wheelspin. Sure enough, the guy was flooring it, and I could vaguely hear his engine spinning over my domestic rattetrap. I hit it in 1st, wound it out in 2nd (and hit the limiter at 7200 lol oops), and noted the multi-buslength lead I had. Ouch. :redspot

Next I had to endure 5 miles of the guy trying to 'race' me by weaving through a sudden batch of traffic. I didn't follow, but when it opened up again I caught up to the guy, who tried running again from 70mph (yes, we were on a highway). No dice, must be the 2.5 liter automatic model, I left him like I was standing still.

Then came the best part: I made my turn off the highway towards school, and the guy followed closely behind for a few miles, and then even turned into my school lot behind me. I didn't see a parking permit for the school, so I was kinda worried why he was following. I saw some friends going to class and said 'Hey I just smoked this guy behind me and now he's following me!'

And as much as you may have liked to hear that I got my ass kicked, it turned out that the guy went to my school, the car wasn't even his (rental/borrowed?). I asked him what kind of engine it had and he just said 'v8.' :lol

Now the only real question that remains is how slow these things really are. Any idea? 1/4 ET/MPH?

:lol3, one thing, watch the profanity.

But good story, lol v8? They don't have v8's in the z4 I don't think. They hav a 2.5L & 3.0L version if I can remember correctly. Both are probably I-6's. 2.5L's aren't very fast, they have some get up and go, but nothing spectacular. I know the 3.0 is faster than the Mazdaspeed Miata, (not sure if that gives a good reference). I don't knwo alot about the z4s, maybe somebody else can chime in.

But no offense to you, that is utterly horrible that the kid lost to you in a base model neon. :thumbup:

But no offense to you, that is utterly horrible that the kid lost to you in a base model neon. :thumbup:

No offense taken, thats why I continue to drive the poor thing. I'm still waiting for the day that I catch an e36 m3 at the strip asleep at the light and pull off a win :buttrock

Edit: What profanity?

Z4 - 2.5 has 184 hp and 3.0 has 225 hp

How much hp on a base Neon? 120 hp ????

so what are your mods?

so what are your mods?

Just boltons. What does your 325 run at the track? :)

doesnt make sense.. I havent driven a z4 to be honest.. but I thought they had some balls..

a z4 3.0 6sp should be runnin 14.0s...

Just boltons. What does your 325 run at the track? :)

Care to elaborate? The "just bolt-ons" response doesn't lend much credibility to your story- it could be anywhere from an intake, exhaust, to a chip, hairdryer, nitrous, etc.... How much power are you putting down? I'm finding this story a little hard to believe, but not entirely out of the realm of possibility with further eloboration. .....Mods and pics or ban. :devillook

Young white kid was driving with some sort of raunchy rap music blasting. ....Now the only real question that remains is how slow these things really are. Any idea? 1/4 ET/MPH?

come on...a neon vs a z4? :confused maybe he had a bunch of subs weighing him down :D

doesnt make sense.. I havent driven a z4 to be honest.. but I thought they had some balls..
They do.

OK, I'll be the first to say it...
:bs

seconded... oh, wow, i didn't realize he had only 3 posts and they're all in this thread.



BAN? :rolleyes

A Z4 2.5 auto will still be good for 0-60 in mid 7's and high 15's...

He said his Neon had 132 hp... still not enough... I have to agree with the flag-throwing...

This story sounds like BS to me.
Your Neon would stand no chance against a Z4.
Maybe if the Z4 had the world's worst driver in it or Martha Stewart (which is probably the same), but otherwise you should have gotten walked.

How much HP does the M version of the Z have? What type of motor etc?

How much HP does the M version of the Z have? What type of motor etc?

No M version of the Z4 just yet...

No M version of the Z4 just yet...

:devillook

http://img210.exs.cx/img210/8637/9406image5gf.jpg

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=339347

A Z4 2.5 auto will still be good for 0-60 in mid 7's and high 15's...

He said his Neon had 132 hp... still not enough... I have to agree with the flag-throwing...

Didn't I also say that I'm not stock?

To those who wondered about boltons: Boltons as in Intake, header, exhaust, chip. I'm not running nitrous or a turbo, duh. You think I'd dump money into an economy car? lol

I ran 14.5 at the track last time out. Perhaps the 3.0 6spd is out of my range, but the 2.5 was an easy catch... ;)

This story sounds like BS to me.
Your Neon would stand no chance against a Z4.
Maybe if the Z4 had the world's worst driver in it or Martha Stewart (which is probably the same), but otherwise you should have gotten walked.

I have no idea what a 2.5i automatic Z4 runs in the 1/4, but it looked like high 15s to me. My neon runs mid 14s, so it makes a bit of sense. I was just wondering how slow of a car I beat.

Didn't I also say that I'm not stock?

To those who wondered about boltons: Boltons as in Intake, header, exhaust, chip. I'm not running nitrous or a turbo, duh. You think I'd dump money into an economy car? lol



I had a neon acr before my bimmer and no way you will do the 1/4 mile in mid 14's with only this mods on your car. I had on mine, CAI, bigger TB, Polished intake manifold, MOPAR PCM (chip), header, exhaust. And that put me on the high 14's seconds on the 1/4 and mine was a dohc to start with at 150hp.

I'm not saying it's not possible for a neon to pull on a z4, hell here at the strip there's an all motor neon running mid 12's and another sohc neon n/a running low 13's, but no way that you're that fast with only intake/chip/header/exhaust so either you "forgot" to mention some other of your mods, or this is BS.

I had a neon acr before my bimmer and no way you will do the 1/4 mile in mid 14's with only this mods on your car. I had on mine, CAI, bigger TB, Polished intake manifold, MOPAR PCM (chip), header, exhaust. And that put me on the high 14's seconds on the 1/4 and mine was a dohc to start with at 150hp.

I'm not saying it's not possible for a neon to pull on a z4, hell here at the strip there's an all motor neon running mid 12's and another sohc neon n/a running low 13's, but no way that you're that fast with only intake/chip/header/exhaust so either you "forgot" to mention some other of your mods, or this is BS.

The fastest SOHC NA neon in the country ran 13.7 with no interior and slicks, so I seriously doubt you have one locally running low 13s without forced induction.

Either way, no offense but I have slips to prove my times. I didn't come here to show off my mindnumbingly slow 1/4 times, but to ask how slow the 2.5i Z4 was, seeing as I could find no stats on google. Cool?

Yeah, I have to think unless you forgot to mention quite a few mods there's no way you're running 14.5 in the 1/4 in an SOHC neon. I'm not doubting you ran that, but you didn't do it with the mods you listed.

The fastest SOHC NA neon in the country ran 13.7 with no interior and slicks, so I seriously doubt you have one locally running low 13s without forced induction.

Yes there is one, don't remember it's exact set-up but it's a sohc base with an sohc magnum head and a custom intake manifold, bigger cam, high compression pistons, software, + ofcourse alot of other goodies.

Yes there is one, don't remember it's exact set-up but it's a sohc base with an sohc magnum head and a custom intake manifold, bigger cam, high compression pistons, software, + ofcourse alot of other goodies.

I know exactly who you are talking about. It's a blue car, right? His best ever was 13.69@99.3 before he blew his engine.

Nice kill! Watch out for those V8 Z4s. I have a turd pusher Neon right now, if it had a stick it wouldn't be considered slow. Not fast, but probably fast enough to beat someone who thinks the Z4 he is driving has a V8. :stickoutt

Edit: What profanity?
:withstupi

I know exactly who you are talking about. It's a blue car, right? His best ever was 13.69@99.3 before he blew his engine.

That's quite possible, but he rebuild his engine and ran lower 13's after that, I think this summer he might do even better.

Didn't I also say that I'm not stock?

To those who wondered about boltons: Boltons as in Intake, header, exhaust, chip. I'm not running nitrous or a turbo, duh. You think I'd dump money into an economy car? lol

Sounds to me like you already have. You have already spent more on it than I ever would....

Sounds to me like you already have. You have already spent more on it than I ever would....

Eh, what I've spent has been worth it just for moments like these. Remember, I'm a college kid, I wont have enough money to buy something nice like a BMW for at least 7 more years (after grad school and all).

If you are trying to make up a story, at least try write one up that sort of makes sense. a stock neon (even with bolt-ons you listed): let me make that clear again, A NEON will NEVER , EVER, pull from ANY z4 PERIOD no matter HOW BAD the driver is. unless, well, the driver is so bad he/she should throw him/herself in the water. if the driver on z4 was stretching his leg all the way, which i assume he has an smg, you will never pull from him. no chance.

the statement above is based on my experience since i've driven both Z4 2.5 smg and a rental neon...

Eh, what I've spent has been worth it just for moments like these. Remember, I'm a college kid, I wont have enough money to buy something nice like a BMW for at least 7 more years (after grad school and all).

Keep up the hard work and good luck when you do. Sounds like you're having a blast in the mean time.... :thumbup:

the statement above is based on my experience since i've driven both Z4 2.5 smg and a rental neon...

Well, since your experience is so broad I'll take your absolute claims as fact. :stickoutt

If you are trying to make up a story, at least try write one up that sort of makes sense. a stock neon (even with bolt-ons you listed): let me make that clear again, A NEON will NEVER , EVER, pull from ANY z4 PERIOD no matter HOW BAD the driver is. unless, well, the driver is so bad he/she should throw him/herself in the water. if the driver on z4 was stretching his leg all the way, which i assume he has an smg, you will never pull from him. no chance.
um...my neon pisses on Z4 2.5s. maybe your rental experiance sucked or was an auto neon? :dunno

um...my neon pisses on Z4 2.5s. maybe your rental experiance sucked or was an auto neon? :dunno

Seriously. Automatic neons are mid 17 seconds cars stock, it's like comparing a 318 to an m3.

If you are trying to make up a story, at least try write one up that sort of makes sense. a stock neon (even with bolt-ons you listed): let me make that clear again, A NEON will NEVER , EVER, pull from ANY z4 PERIOD no matter HOW BAD the driver is. unless, well, the driver is so bad he/she should throw him/herself in the water. if the driver on z4 was stretching his leg all the way, which i assume he has an smg, you will never pull from him. no chance.

:bs

This little Neon, in stock form, will romp on a Z4 in the straights. :alright

http://www.edmunds.com/media/roadtests/comparison/2003/econosport/03.dodge.srt4.f34.500.jpg

:bs

This little Neon, in stock form, will romp on a Z4 in the straights. :alright

http://www.edmunds.com/media/roadtests/comparison/2003/econosport/03.dodge.srt4.f34.500.jpg
this is true. I guess pride is the issue here that prevents people from believing it.

It's not about pride.
It's about what's possible and what's not.
The car shown in the picture above is a Dodge Neon SRT and those are faster than most people think.
However, Blaise wasn't talking about a Neon SRT, he wasn't even talking about a Neon DOHC (150hp), he claims that his 2.0 SOHC (132hp) with a couple of modifications is faster than a Z4 2.5 (184hp).
I've seen a couple of guys with modified SOHC Neons and they barely break into 15s when it comes to the 1/4 mile.
Sure there are a few heaviliy modified versions out there but that's not what Blaise is driving.
You could compare his Neon with a BMW E36 318iS (140hp), both cars run the 1/4 in 16s and both cars need alot of tuning to do the 1/4 under 15s, if I was claiming that a 318iS with those modifications was doing the 1/4 in high 14s some of you would start a flame war.
So I still say that his story is BS.

:bs

This little Neon, in stock form, will romp on a Z4 in the straights. :alright

http://www.edmunds.com/media/roadtests/comparison/2003/econosport/03.dodge.srt4.f34.500.jpg

what pride bro? i dont remember saying the word "pride" :) i just love my car and i don't care what people do and drives. i seriously don't give a rat's butt about someone else's SL65 or someone else's m5 (well, maybe the m5 i do care a little :embarrasm ) because i still love my car. i know there are faster cars out there, that's why i didnt act/say like "nothing can beat BMWs"..and sadly, there are people out there who thinks like that..

and of course, i wasn't referring to those little SRTs.. those little things are surprisingly quick :embarrasm

i just threw my flag guys. based on my thoughts... i just don't think this is something that could happen so i just threw my flag...then unexpected always happen so.. if it's true, great.

madhater, yea, it was an auto. those rental companies carry nothing but autos. i would love to hit the new mustangs :D

what pride bro? i dont remember saying the word "pride" :) i just love my car and i don't care what people do and drives. i seriously don't give a rat's butt about someone else's SL65 or someone else's m5 (well, maybe the m5 i do care a little :embarrasm ) because i still love my car. i know there are faster cars out there, that's why i didnt act/say like "nothing can beat BMWs"..and sadly, there are people out there who thinks like that..

and of course, i wasn't referring to those little SRTs.. those little things are surprisingly quick :embarrasm

i just threw my flag guys. based on my thoughts... i just don't think this is something that could happen so i just threw my flag...then unexpected always happen so.. if it's true, great.

madhater, yea, it was an auto. those rental companies carry nothing but autos. i would love to hit the new mustangs :D
:D new mustangs are tight, too bad the rental companies won't have the GT manuals. :(

when I mentioned pride, I was hitting directly on how some people get offended with the fact that a lessor car will terrorize a new Z4.

I own a '95 Plymouth Neon Sport SOHC 5spd and yes, it will whiz on a Z4 2.5L.....ask me how I know. :cool (maybe it was all driver? :dunno)

the best part about the neon is that I paid $700 for it, it's my winter beater and very useful when going to the city etc. :stickoutt

-Ron

oh to answer, the profanity was when you said get my ass kicked. I wasn't sure if that is considered profanity. I guess how it is used. :)


But yeah, I seriously think this could happen. Auto 184hp vs, Manual 132hp pre-mods. Now i/h/e on a honda has pretty good results but what about on a neon? Bump him up to the 150-160 area? Then he had a chip which probably pushed him up just a bit more. Now lez just use rough numbers here, all guessing....

165hp 5 spd (2432lbs)
184hp Auto (2998lbs)

Hmmm.....566lb difference to seperate the 19hp difference. I think it could happen.

It's not about pride.
It's about what's possible and what's not.
The car shown in the picture above is a Dodge Neon SRT and those are faster than most people think.
However, Blaise wasn't talking about a Neon SRT, he wasn't even talking about a Neon DOHC (150hp), he claims that his 2.0 SOHC (132hp) with a couple of modifications is faster than a Z4 2.5 (184hp).
I've seen a couple of guys with modified SOHC Neons and they barely break into 15s when it comes to the 1/4 mile.
Sure there are a few heaviliy modified versions out there but that's not what Blaise is driving.
You could compare his Neon with a BMW E36 318iS (140hp), both cars run the 1/4 in 16s and both cars need alot of tuning to do the 1/4 under 15s, if I was claiming that a 318iS with those modifications was doing the 1/4 in high 14s some of you would start a flame war.
So I still say that his story is BS.


A 318 is a LOT heavier than my car and has a smaller engine.

Seriously man, get over yourself. I couldn't care less about whether or not you think my story is BS or not, but you're souding more and more like a mindless fanboy with every post you make.

Just because you have seen some SOHC guys barely break into the 15s doesn't mean that it's true for everybody. I know how to drive, I managed to hit 14.9 in my car with less than $300 into the engine.

Get over yourself. I was wondering if anybody had seen a z4 run at the track, not to have some guy talking out of his ass tell me that my times are BS. I'll trust my timslips over what you post, thanks.

Oh, and Edit:

Here is me at the track last friday. I don't have any better pictures because I obviously can't take photos while I'm driving, but here's me running. Note the trapspeed, I ran a 14.8 even though I managed to snap a shifter cable out of place, so I couldn't shift to 4th and ended up coasting across the line. Really sucks too, because I had my best 990' ever on that pass, on track for a 14.4 :(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v89/meblaise/ohyeahno4th.jpg

and noted the multi-buslength lead I had


Dont expect any kind a warm welcome. You come to a BMW site and brag about beating one with your Neon. You say you just wanted to know how fast a Z4 is? Bs. You could have dont that without posting a kill. You dont know how to use teh interwebnet if you cant find stats elsewhere.

I would say anything is possible on the streets but you claim a multi-buslength lead? Maybe if the guy was sleep driving or having a seizure.
That said.....you still went home in a Neon :evil2

Dont expect any kind a warm welcome. You come to a BMW site and brag about beating one with your Neon. You say you just wanted to know how fast a Z4 is? Bs. You could have dont that without posting a kill. You dont know how to use teh interwebnet if you cant find stats elsewhere.

I would say anything is possible on the streets but you claim a multi-buslength lead? Maybe if the guy was sleep driving or having a seizure.
That said.....you still went home in a Neon :evil2
I go home in a neon all the time...then again, I also have a 323is that'll embarass your M3 so what's the point of knocking on cars here? :dunno

I see a lot of people feeling violated by this thread, I love it cause his neon still kicked that Z4's butt! :laugh

-Ron

You dont know how to use teh interwebnet if you cant find stats elsewhere.

I would say anything is possible on the streets but you claim a multi-buslength lead? Maybe if the guy was sleep driving or having a seizure.
That said.....you still went home in a Neon :evil2

Hey, I don't know if it was the driver or what, that's why I'm asking if anybody had seen or taken one to the track. If they are really high 15 second cars, then it makes sense.

And yes, I spent 10 minutes on google and came up with nothing but 0-60 timnes, which are worthless to me as I have no idea what my car does 0-60 in.

And yes, I'm completely aware that I'm still the guy in the non. It sucks. :(

I go home in a neon all the time...then again, I also have a 323is that'll embarass your M3

No way. How can a 323 beat a M car? Thats ridiculous. M3s are the fastest cars on the road right now.



And yes, I'm completely aware that I'm still the guy in the non. It sucks. :(

Haha Im just playing. Thats the security blanket all us BMW guys cling to when we feel threatened :)

I wasnt there to see the race so I cant really say it didnt happen. It sounds far fetched but then again a lot of crazy things can happen. Im sure the look on the other guys face was priceless.

ok..... someone get an idea of what kind of power blaise may be making with those mods, then compare it to the weight of the two cars. Power isn't everything, power to weight ratios are ;) . Granted I cringed at reading this post just like the rest of ya'll, but it seems possible if the ratios work out.

I hope the driver of the Z4 was jerken around when he said V8 though..... BMW police should confiscate that thing from him for being so dim witted. If you get beat, always claim (even though BMW doesn't use it anymore) you're packing a M42..... :bluecry1 .

No way. How can a 323 beat a M car? Thats ridiculous. M3s are the fastest cars on the road right now.




Haha Im just playing. Thats the security blanket all us BMW guys cling to when we feel threatened :)

I wasnt there to see the race so I cant really say it didnt happen. It sounds far fetched but then again a lot of crazy things can happen. Im sure the look on the other guys face was priceless.
at least we're on the same page now.

now if you think my 323is is fast, you should see my toro riding mower!

No way. How can a 323 beat a M car? Thats ridiculous. M3s are the fastest cars on the road right now.


.


No, they're not the fastest cars on the road, and his 323 is not exactly stock anymore. How does a full M3 powertrain swap sounds?

So to all doubters, I think that with our very own Ron claiming it can be done (even in stock form), I say it's possible. Good kill.

at least we're on the same page now.

now if you think my 323is is fast, you should see my toro riding mower!
:rofl

o way. How can a 323 beat a M car? Thats ridiculous. M3s are the fastest cars on the road right now.
F/I or maybe swap? Hatter has a swap done, and if you read his sig he has a few other goodies in the mix. Also he is probably a decent driver to say the least and will put ahurtin on ya. But what do you mean M3 is the fastest car on the road right now? Are you nuts? e36 and e46 M3's are getting spanked left & right on the road. Granted we have our fair share of wins also, but evo's and sti's and....ack....*gulp*....even some SRT-4's are schooling us, and then there is some evo's and sti's, along with LS1's and vettes schooling the e46's. We just can't get a break, we need that new e90 to come out with the v8 in it, so we can gain our place back near the top of the pack.

No, they're not the fastest cars on the road, and his 323 is not exactly stock anymore. How does a full M3 powertrain swap sounds?

So to all doubters, I think that with our very own Ron claiming it can be done (even in stock form), I say it's possible. Good kill.
yeah, I tried to give a small example with power & weights involved. The power of hte neon was guessed, but it should've let people know it was very much possible.

and I agree with Ron, I think the thread is hilarious becuase that Z4 got spanked by a neon. and then he said it had a V8. :lol3

No way. How can a 323 beat a M car? Thats ridiculous. M3s are the fastest cars on the road right now.

:rofl :lol Come on guys I was being blatantly sarcastic. I guess its hard to tell because there probably are some people on this forum that truely believe M3>all.

I think you need you tags on i guess :)

A 318 is a LOT heavier than my car and has a smaller engine.

Seriously man, get over yourself. I couldn't care less about whether or not you think my story is BS or not, but you're souding more and more like a mindless fanboy with every post you make.

Just because you have seen some SOHC guys barely break into the 15s doesn't mean that it's true for everybody. I know how to drive, I managed to hit 14.9 in my car with less than $300 into the engine.

Get over yourself. I was wondering if anybody had seen a z4 run at the track, not to have some guy talking out of his ass tell me that my times are BS. I'll trust my timslips over what you post, thanks.

Oh, and Edit:

Here is me at the track last friday. I don't have any better pictures because I obviously can't take photos while I'm driving, but here's me running. Note the trapspeed, I ran a 14.8 even though I managed to snap a shifter cable out of place, so I couldn't shift to 4th and ended up coasting across the line. Really sucks too, because I had my best 990' ever on that pass, on track for a 14.4 :(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v89/meblaise/ohyeahno4th.jpg

I don't think I'm the one who needs to get over himself :rolleyes

You register on a BMW forum saying that you just beat a "slow" (your words) Z4 2.5i in your SOHC Neon (which isn't slow according to you ? :rolleyes ) and you were wondering how "slow" (your words again) a Z4 2.5i is.
Not a really good intro on a new forum.

I could care less about you and your Neon's performance.
Get over yourself.

I don't think I'm the one who needs to get over himself :rolleyes

You register on a BMW forum saying that you just beat a "slow" (your words) Z4 2.5i in your SOHC Neon (which isn't slow according to you ? :rolleyes ) and you were wondering how "slow" (your words again) a Z4 2.5i is.
Not a really good intro on a new forum.

I could care less about you and your Neon's performance.
Get over yourself.
I was just fine with him calling the 2.5 Z4 slow, I'll say it's slow. It is slow, his SOHC Neon is slow, but obviously it is quicker than the slower 2.5 Z4. Why are you giving the man a hard time. he didn't come in here trolling, and bashing on all bimmer owners. He even pretty much pointed out, this kid was completely ignorant and it probably wans't the car's fault as ot why it did so poorly. I actually enjoyed the thread, and don't see why the race is so hard for people to grasp after he listed his mods.

Oh yeah, just so someone does it, Blaise, welcome to the forums. :D

I think you need you tags on i guess :)
aye yes he did, I thought he was dead serious when he said that. ;)

I was just fine with him calling the 2.5 Z4 slow, I'll say it's slow. It is slow, his SOHC Neon is slow, but obviously it is quicker than the slower 2.5 Z4. Why are you giving the man a hard time. he didn't come in here trolling, and bashing on all bimmer owners. He even pretty much pointed out, this kid was completely ignorant and it probably wans't the car's fault as ot why it did so poorly. I actually enjoyed the thread, and don't see why the race is so hard for people to grasp after he listed his mods.

Oh yeah, just so someone does it, Blaise, welcome to the forums. :D

Thanks mang. It's hard to tell the difference between trolling and just posting a non-native kill. :D

You guys are all rich, why doesn't somebody donate me a 328 to daily drive? :stickoutt

:lol Funniest thing Ive heard so far today lol. After paying all my bills I have to choose whether I want to eat or put gas in the car. I love driving. :D

:lol Funniest thing Ive heard so far today lol. After paying all my bills I have to choose whether I want to eat or put gas in the car. I love driving. :D

:embarrasm Yeah, it was a joke. Cars drive a lot of us into bankrupcy. :(

:embarrasm Yeah, it was a joke. Cars drive a lot of us into bankrupcy. :(
i know I'm definately not rich. If I was rich, I would be driving something other than an e36 M3. :) I got this becuase I can afford it, since I don't have a wife, kids or a mortgage. :stickoutt

i know I'm definately not rich. If I was rich, I would be driving something other than an e36 M3. :) I got this becuase I can afford it, since I don't have a wife, kids or a mortgage. :stickoutt

I have a 2.8, a gf, two kids in private school and a kitchen that needs 20 grand in renovation. Am I poor? Or just about to be? :help

I just payed 1200 euro's on garagebills, tires and mods this week. So if I ever were rich I'm sure not anymore now :(

I don't think I'm the one who needs to get over himself :rolleyes

You register on a BMW forum saying that you just beat a "slow" (your words) Z4 2.5i in your SOHC Neon (which isn't slow according to you ? :rolleyes ) and you were wondering how "slow" (your words again) a Z4 2.5i is.
Not a really good intro on a new forum.

I could care less about you and your Neon's performance.
Get over yourself.
good intro? he's been a member for a year now. Apparantly you do care about him and his neon or would have stopped posting in this thread.

perhaps you should back away from this thread since it's upsetting you. ....that is if you still care. ;)

good intro? he's been a member for a year now. Apparantly you do care about him and his neon or would have stopped posting in this thread.

perhaps you should back away from this thread since it's upsetting you. ....that is if you still care. ;)

I don't.
But since this is a forum, everyone has a right to have their say :D

As long as der Abt keeps on posting those Belgian babes, I'm ok with this...

As long as der Abt keeps on posting those Belgian babes, I'm ok with this...

Here ya go buddy :D

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wODY0MTI4NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

Can I have her phone # ? :devillook

Belgian? She looks Hungarian. :D

High 15s, I need to find an auto Z4 for my little M44 to beat up :D

Oh, welcome to the forum blaise. There's something about neons that I've always loved (maybe because my hero, Steve Locken, drives one).

Beating up on lesser cars is fun. Someone in a eclipse with atleast an exhaust (not the old awd turbo one) tried to take me on the highway at like 75, he got a big blast of smoke and the supersprint theme song in his face.

I was literally luaghing when he pulled next to me and revved.

High 15s, I need to find an auto Z4 for my little M44 to beat up :D

Oh, welcome to the forum blaise. There's something about neons that I've always loved (maybe because my hero, Steve Locken, drives one).

Who's Steve Locken?

Why has this thread been retitled to have NWS content? I wouldn't call the above NWS :redspot

Who's Steve Locken?

Why has this thread been retitled to have NWS content? I wouldn't call the above NWS :redspot
yeah, who changed the title? and what is NWS?

Here ya go buddy :D

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wODY0MTI4NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg
der abt is cool in my book! :buttrock

There's more where that came from cough*** http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=340680 ***cough :D

By the way, her name is Tania Prinsier.

OK Blaise,
I'll give you benefit of the doubt. I raised the BS flag but apparently a Z4 auto with a 2.5 is a lot slower than I would've ever imagined.

I stand corrected.

Fact is, I once personally saw a Olds Alero give a 530i all it could handle and very few here believed that either.

Welcome to the forum! Great kill!

No way. How can a 323 beat a M car? Thats ridiculous. M3s are the fastest cars on the road right now.


Your fired.....










Jackass

yeah, who changed the title? and what is NWS?

Skin is NWS.

and NWS = teh win. Therefore...


skin = teh win.