Well.....I have been seeing a trend lately, so I thought I would offer up a little kill story for the trolls. This is the first kill thread I think I have ever started.

True story:

My '86 535i killed a '95 Volvo 850 GLT on the highway from a roll....from the dig...upside down...inside-out. No matter what the scenario was.....it was nothing short of 1 CL for every 20 mph increment we climbed. So 0-80...was about 4 CLs.

Sad, really.... considering the 535i is not in the best running shape....and I know the Volvo was racing because I was the driver. I decided to take my wife's volvo out for a spin and threw the keys to my "five-er" to my buddy.

I told him..."Let's do this". I was sure that the Volvo would have atleast some "highway legs", but......NO!! The clumsy old brick of a Bimmer tore the Volvo a new one.....over and over.

True Story.

Discuss.

I drove an 85 535i 5 speed once before and the thing was damn quick. I think they are 168hp stock? It def felt like a lot more than that...I went 100 mph in 3rd gear!!!

It was my old boss car, he wanted to race me when i got my maxima in 01. Needless to say it wasn't quick enough to take down the VQ!


nice race.

It was my old boss car, he wanted to race me when i got my maxima in 01. Needless to say it wasn't quick enough to take down the VQ!

3.5 right? :alright



Good kill, Kiley

3.5 right? :alright



Good kill, Kiley


I believe the 01's were 3.0L and 02's got the 3.5L. My Mom has an 02 and it is very quick.

Nice, I guess...If I'm not mistakes the 535 has a V8 correct? Also, the GLT should be running an I-5 with a lightpressure turbo pushing 190hp, I don't think it could take the bimmer... ;) I was driving a S70 4-door [I-5 168hp] with 4 -people in it, and on the highway, back then [5-6 years ago] a stock Neon was keeping up with me at around 110-120mph [neon had only the driver] :confused I don't think the older Volvo's were that fast...

They're turboed so modding one isn't that hard. IPD (If I remember right) is one company that makes performance kits for them.

haha this thread is funny

The 535i has a SOHC 3.5L I-6. I don't think it will put down more than about 140-150 whp, but the torque is very, very flat and useful.

My wife's '95 850 GLT is non-turbo, it's just the "sporty" DOHC 2.5L I-5 engine. It breathes and revs better than the 535i, but it just doesn't have the OOMMMPPHHH...to hang with a "big six".


It is fun seeing an '80s euro sedan put the hurting on a '90's sedan!!! I was in the drivers seat of the volvo, and it was awesome seeing the 5'ver squat the back-end (I got 3.73 LSD) and take off like a scolded cat. :buttrock

This kill happened back several months ago. I just felt like bringing it up since there have been alot of Volvo> BMW kills in the past couple of days. This was my little story...involving two very decrepit models of each make.

3.5 right? :alright



Good kill, Kiley


Nope, just the 3.0. 222hp and 217tq at the time i did have a stillen y-pipe (about 15whp) and the stillen intake (0hp). So the maxima moved good on the highway.

Before my c70 i had a 95' 850 GLT. There not turbo'd and i'm pretty sure its no surprise that there slow. Heck, i owned one and i'll admit that, who cares, its 168hp that moves it. I hope this kill thread doesnt turn in to what other volvo threads have become.

Well.....I have been seeing a trend lately, so I thought I would offer up a little kill story for the trolls. This is the first kill thread I think I have ever started.

True story:

My '86 535i killed a '95 Volvo 850 GLT on the highway from a roll....from the dig...upside down...inside-out. No matter what the scenario was.....it was nothing short of 1 CL for every 20 mph increment we climbed. So 0-80...was about 4 CLs.

Sad, really.... considering the 535i is not in the best running shape....and I know the Volvo was racing because I was the driver. I decided to take my wife's volvo out for a spin and threw the keys to my "five-er" to my buddy.

I told him..."Let's do this". I was sure that the Volvo would have atleast some "highway legs", but......NO!! The clumsy old brick of a Bimmer tore the Volvo a new one.....over and over.

True Story.

Discuss. :confused Nice run but come on! It's only a 2.5L inline 5 vs your 3.whatever( I can't remember the L)535i.They handle very well and is also a very heavy car..Lucky if it even has 170-190 hp.

:confused Nice run but come on! It's only a 2.5L inline 5 vs your 3.whatever( I can't remember the L)535i.They handle very well and is also a very heavy car..Lucky if it even has 170-190 hp.

:confused So what is your point exactly?

The cars both weigh about the same, and the HP rating if fairly close...(DOHC vs SOHC).....and the 535i is not in great running shape compared to a car 10 years newer.

....I just don't understand why you are such an antagonist against: BMW> Any Brand kills.

Now if I would have posted an EVO killing a 325i, you certainly wouldn't have a problem with it, now would you?

Not much of a race, now, is that? An 850 GLT was never meant to be fast in the first place.

ok lets get things correct a 85 535i has 182hp 212 torque. at copression of 8:0:1 if it is a low compression euro it has 185 hp 214 torque High compression euro 10:0:1 it has 218 hp torque I am not sure. There fast enough for me and will easily do 140+ on the freeway good kill.

that mid to early 90's 850 volvo GLT is quite the beast.
I was able to take Dinan330ic's stepdad's swedish machine out on the town as well as the local bmwcca chapter's auto-x.

it performed well at the auto-x and was quite the street fighter, outlaunching a "GSX" badged eclipse (probably was more like an rs or gs).

yeah, all GLT models are non-turbo. 850 Turbo's however, will pack more punch and give a bimmer a much better race, i'd assume. i had an 850 GLT ... the thing was a tank, that's for sure. it packed enough to beat the occasional ricer ... i just liked watching the guy's face when his girlfriend was in the car.

hands down, best part about driving that volvo ... cops were somehow immune to me. my burgundy 850 SCREAMED "mom w/ groceries" and i never even got a look.

if i had to sport a wagon, i'd be all over a V70R

Nice kill! The Volvo driver was probably subpar. :devillook

hey smartass.....GLT has nothing...it's like 325i basic model. Try 850T5 or T5R.....

Well.....I have been seeing a trend lately, so I thought I would offer up a little kill story for the trolls. This is the first kill thread I think I have ever started.

True story:

My '86 535i killed a '95 Volvo 850 GLT on the highway from a roll....from the dig...upside down...inside-out. No matter what the scenario was.....it was nothing short of 1 CL for every 20 mph increment we climbed. So 0-80...was about 4 CLs.

Sad, really.... considering the 535i is not in the best running shape....and I know the Volvo was racing because I was the driver. I decided to take my wife's volvo out for a spin and threw the keys to my "five-er" to my buddy.

I told him..."Let's do this". I was sure that the Volvo would have atleast some "highway legs", but......NO!! The clumsy old brick of a Bimmer tore the Volvo a new one.....over and over.

True Story.

Discuss.

I cant believe we are talking about an 850 non-turbo. The car has no pretense of even being a sports car. It is the true baby-in-the-back grocery getter. My wife and I test drove a 5 speed wagon (non turbo) and it was even slower than I thought it would be! This is a GREAT kill thread :D !!

I agree with the guy who said cops dont look at Volvos. Ive had a 1985 740 GLE for about 3.5 years now, and only recently got pulled over for the frist time due to a school-zone speed trap (still got off with a warning :D ).
In a Volvo, someone could pass an 80mph M3 at 90MPH and a cop still would pull over the M3!

The 850 Turbo is probably quicker on highway than a 535i though. Not by a lot though. Thereis a Volvo guy just down the street from me and I have driven most of his cars by now (850 turbo, 850R, 760 Turbo, etc). The 850R is allright, but not up to M3 standards for poop or handling, and the ride is downright punishing! Squeeks and rattle galore!

The newer Volvos are starting to seem interesting. There is a contingent of European modders from Finland, Sweden Norway and whatnot who have been getting crazy HP out of all kinds of Volvos.
I love Volvos for what they are and BMW's they are definitely not! Still nice cars though!

Nice kill! The Volvo driver was probably subpar. :devillook

Yeah, he kept bouncing up and down in his seat while racing... ..the dude was a total loser!! :stickoutt

hey smartass.....GLT has nothing...it's like 325i basic model. Try 850T5 or T5R.....

Nice!!!! I pulled the string and got what I wanted! Like a Pez dispensor popping out reaction. Thanks, Snookered. :)
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The cars both weigh about the same, and the HP rating if fairly close...(DOHC vs SOHC).....and the 535i is not in great running shape compared to a car 10 years newer.

....I just don't understand why you are such an antagonist against: BMW> Any Brand kills.

Now if I would have posted an EVO killing a 325i, you certainly wouldn't have a problem with it, now would you? :eek: Because I can be ;) ! Unless the 325i is turbocharged /supercharged, an EVO does kill a 325i in a race,that's common sense! :evil2 What is there to understand? :confused And by the claims that some of you guys make on this forum,The BMW is the end all and be all and I own 2 of them.So what are you talking about? :nono

When I'm on the MB,DSM,EVO forums I have the same attitude towards guys who think MB's ,EVO's and DSM's are the end all and be all.Are you on those other forums?I own 3 different brands of cars and each one is very capable and good at doing what it does best.Each one can do something better than the other one as well.It's all about being unbiased and objective as far as I'm concerned and just like a person has a right to be biased,I have every darn right to voice my opinion whether you want to hear it or not.We don't have to agree.And I don't have to keep it to myself especially if it's not disrespectful,harmful or taking money out of anybodies pockets. :rolleyes

Sometimes I comment and sometimes I don't.So Don't hate! Appreciate.I have to.

And you need to relax because we are talking about stupid cars here,not parents ,aunts,uncles,wives,husbands,friends,politics, religion or what have you.CARS,CARS,CaRS! And don't worry because I have to keep reminding myself of the same thing my friend. :devillook PS I'll admit I am a lil MB biased but I'll never exaggerate or lie about what it can or cannot do .Especially within reason.



Sorry all for the long winded explanation,but he asked me a question. :DPS ,my Dad once owned a 1996 Blue Volvo 850GLT auto.

Sorry all for the long winded explanation,but he asked me a question. :D

Well...I will make this short.

I have been a MAJOR lurker in the Kill Section for a while now, and have noticed that the majority of your post are in defense of anything non-bmw.....never in support of. If you don't believe me, then I will start pointing it out to you.

BTW, I do own/have owned many brands of cars myself and am not a loyalist in anyway/shape/form. The Kill section has degraded so bad with all the "nay-sayers" that won't let anyone post a BMW kill story, that I think it's time someone spoke up about it.

Take this as you will.

To be fair, there is a dis-proportionately high number of "questionable" kill stories on here starring BMW's. I'd say about 50% of the stories involving LS1 cars with E36 M3's, for example, tend to call it a draw or thereabouts. While, the cars are nowhere near evenly matched all things equal.
This is just an example, and I understand the pro-BMW bias, but it does get a bit tiresome. Where are the un-likely losses that also no-douobt happen? I know there are a few E46 M3's that have been taken down by SRT4's for example. Dont read 'em here though.
Myself, I like to see a balanced perspective. When I see enough "unlikely" kills and "grasping at straws" rationalizing of it, I can sometimes see why someone would want to throw a little cold water on their dreaming heads.
Just my take on it, but I dont really care much one way or the other...it is mainly entertainment, let's just let the critics have their say as well, so people dont go out there with big egos just to get them deflated when they realize that their 325is with track pipe, chip and intake really wont womp on a 02 Camaro SS :stickoutt .

Well...I hardly see too many "My E36 M3 took down a Z06" threads. There are some unbelievable kills here and there, but for the most part this kill section is more mature than alot of other forums.

I am a member of probably 20-25 Auto. forums and you want to talk about unbelievable stories....pheewww....this kill section is not even close.

Yeah, but you know what I mean......
Sometimes it's just fun to stir the pot! :D

Yeah, but you know what I mean......
Sometimes it's just fun to stir the pot! :D

Oh I agee with the occasional pot-stirring...but lately it's been the same echoes of: "Those cars are no Joke"...or, "with a tsunami down pipe, gulper fuel management, and a super sequential-side-mounted-tranny kewler...it would kills you." comments that are getting old.

Why can't we just say, "Hey...congrats!! What kind of mods do you have? What kind of mods did he have? etc.

I dont know what to say...Kill stories are like the umltimate expression of ego...I mean look what you got..one guy who, by hook or by crook, manages to get his car ahead of another for that split second or more. You get testosterone, ego and a person's own manliness on the line, and you can hardly expect a "tat 'n' chat" discussion afterwards.
As it should be! After all, this is manly business!! :D :devillook

I dont know what to say...Kill stories are like the umltimate expression of ego...I mean look what you got..one guy who, by hook or by crook, manages to get his car ahead of another for that split second or more. You get testosterone, ego and a person's own manliness on the line, and you can hardly expect a "tat 'n' chat" discussion afterwards.
As it should be! After all, this is manly business!! :D :devillook

Very much understood, Fish. I guess I just like the commoradity that alot of other boards have. This board used to have it, but it has been slowly sucked out of it in the past year or so, JMHO. I have noticed a good number of posters that no longer post here.....might have been for that reason.

For instance....I have beaten an Evo in my hatch.....but you won't see me writing up a kill story on this board about it. Maybe a year ago I would have posted it...but with all the "in the closet" BMW-haters now residing here, I would rather not waste several hours defending my story or integrity.

For instance....I have beaten an Evo in my hatch.....but you won't see me writing up a kill story on this board about it. Maybe a year ago I would have posted it...but with all the "in the closet" BMW-haters now residing here, I would rather not waste several hours defending my story or integrity.

Well, it's definitely the place for controversy. I could see how a more intimate site would be more appealing, but I like the diversity here. Makes it more interesting for me. Thing is, I dont really much care if it becomes a flame fest or who knows what.
It's all entertaining, and the thing is, if you know what happened then who cares what others think?! I used to make up outlandish kills just to watch the fur fly (not on the this site, sorry, that was a while ago)!! :D

PS: Id believe you could take an Evo in that car without a problem. You must be trapping at least in the low 100's, eh?

You must be trapping at least in the low 100's, eh?

I wouldn't know.....I only race on crowded streets. :devillook
J/K!! :stickoutt

Well, it's definitely the place for controversy. I could see how a more intimate site would be more appealing, but I like the diversity here. Makes it more interesting for me. Thing is, I dont really much care if it becomes a flame fest or who knows what.
It's all entertaining, and the thing is, if you know what happened then who cares what others think?! I used to make up outlandish kills just to watch the fur fly (not on the this site, sorry, that was a while ago)!! :D

PS: Id believe you could take an Evo in that car without a problem. You must be trapping at least in the low 100's, eh?
God Bless You Cacatfish ! Now Kiley Sean why does this man seem to pretty much understand exactly what I'm talking about?You have to admit alot of the BMW pro bias on this forum,let me clarify (Kill Stories) is just quite ridiculous,but this place is not the only one that is guilty of this.There are quite a great # of young Bimmer heads on this forum so sometimes I even have to chck myself b4 I say something.

My first ever post was a kill story and in that post I later realized how much of an idiot I appeared to be when I came with my MB AMG rhetoric to this forum.(I reread the thread last wknd and said"That was me!" "what an ass!") Not to mention that Dave and I(SilverStreak) got into a big pissing contest.I did'nt even know who the hell he was.I later came to realize that he is one of the most respected mods on this forum and I was pretty much out of place I'd say with my pro MB attitude so it became a silly misunderstanding.LESSON LEARNT.

Also I never post any kills or death's since then because it's not really an EGO thing for me.I could talk about my 1/4 mile times and many Kills and few :devillook Deaths I've encountered with my various cars but my thing is who cares! So I just try to enjoy each vehicle for what it is.However I will comment when I see something that I feel is outrageous. It may seem a little confrontational at times but that's really not my intent.


By the way?How did you beat an EVO?No WAY!That's IMPOSSIBLE,Nature could never allow this! :devillook :D

Well.....I have been seeing a trend lately, so I thought I would offer up a little kill story for the trolls. This is the first kill thread I think I have ever started.

True story:

My '86 535i killed a '95 Volvo 850 GLT on the highway from a roll....from the dig...upside down...inside-out. No matter what the scenario was.....it was nothing short of 1 CL for every 20 mph increment we climbed. So 0-80...was about 4 CLs.

Sad, really.... considering the 535i is not in the best running shape....and I know the Volvo was racing because I was the driver. I decided to take my wife's volvo out for a spin and threw the keys to my "five-er" to my buddy.

I told him..."Let's do this". I was sure that the Volvo would have atleast some "highway legs", but......NO!! The clumsy old brick of a Bimmer tore the Volvo a new one.....over and over.

True Story.

Discuss.


I know the modified 850 turbos can get really fast :)

lol....woooo...what happened to the kill talk? :D

hehe, but I guess I now what people mean. But also, this kill stories section is actually much better than other boards I've seen. I have seen many threads where people post their deaths. many boards you will never see that. IF (keyword) I beat a LS1 or something, i would post it. I would know damn well it was do to the other driver error, but either which way I beat him. I beat a Trans Am in my prelude s (140hp/tq) all because the other driver sucked balls, but I still claim that victory, I know if I ever went against another trans am I would have my posterior handed to me on a silver dish. But I haven't been on the boards that long, and the kill stories even less, but I like the usual crowd that hangs out here. Most people can joke and comment without anybody getting riled up, and I like the non bimmer owners (Steiner, Phanta-Z, Trepan...he has a bimmer, but doens't talk about it, etc) the ones that give us insight to some of the vehicles we're racing and just seem to have a pleasant time.

But Kiley is right, too often now, the bmw bias has reversed. If somebody brags about a bmw doing something or being great, they are smacked down an called an elitist. There is a difference between liking your car, and bragging about it and being an elitist. I mean this place has filled with self hating bimmer owners.

This forum is made so we can post kill stories, discuss, argue, and talk about and keep ourselves entertained throughout the day. That is all I do with it. If I post a kill story, I tell the truth and I try to make it at least as entertaining as possible and get the full picture across (I rarely accomplish that, because I suck at that :)) but when people question my story, I will tell what I know, what happened, and if something seems amiss, we can try to get to the bottom of it. No reason to flame the guy. Why is it alright for a 325 to post a thread about him getting killed by a Ferrari F40 but it is a grave travesty to post about a M3 beating a Sentra SE-R. it just doesn't make sense. people need to find a semi-peaceful median. if you are going to flame the bigger guys for picking on little guys, make sure you flame everybody that does this.

But Kiley is right, too often now, the bmw bias has reversed. If somebody brags about a bmw doing something or being great, they are smacked down an called an elitist. There is a difference between liking your car, and bragging about it and being an elitist. I mean this place has filled with self hating bimmer owners.
:eek: :nono I believe quite the contrary, this is Bimmerforums.com,there are tons of bimmer enthusiasts on here in comparison to self bimmer haters so that does'nt make to much sense to me! :nono. Why would I wanna be part of a site made for a particular car enthusiast and find that the place is filled with BMW owners that hate their cars. :confused I respectfully disagree with you there.

If the kill story seems outrageous or if there is a little misinformation there I think it is very fair to give your opinion.How your opinion is expressed may be another thing. :devillook

However no matter how much we may agree or disagree,I still love this forum,because I have a deep affection for performance auto's ,namely BMW's believe it or not.I mean I own two that I enjoy to the hilt.I defend them on other forums just as much as the next car I may or may not own.. ;)

hey smartass.....GLT has nothing...it's like 325i basic model. Try 850T5 or T5R.....

Hey snooker, how about watching the name-calling before I have to put you in time out... :nono

:eek: :nono I believe quite the contrary, this is Bimmerforums.com,there are tons of bimmer enthusiasts on here in comparison to self bimmer haters so that does'nt make to much sense to me! :nono. Why would I wanna be part of a site made for a particular car enthusiast and find that the place is filled with BMW owners that hate their cars. :confused I respectfully disagree with you there.

If the kill story seems outrageous or if there is a little misinformation there I think it is very fair to give your opinion.How your opinion is expressed may be another thing. :devillook

However no matter how much we may agree or disagree,I still love this forum,because I have a deep affection for performance auto's ,namely BMW's believe it or not.I mean I own two that I enjoy to the hilt.I defend them on other forums just as much as the next car I may or may not own.. ;)
Really, it seems almost like there is self haters. Fortunately we have weeded most out, but before like if somebody posted about street racing, they would flame and insult, and if you beat another car, you are like geeezz....I would hope you beat him, and if you race a better car and lose, they say "you should've know that would happen" and if you beat a better car, "ppfffttt, there is no way that would happen, that car would smoke you, the BMW isn't that good of a car". No matter what you do, you can't win. There population is slowly thinning, but here for just a bit it was real bad (about time I first came to the KS section).

But I have learned to appreciate most cars now. I am still very biased, and most of the times I do not like other people's god awful tastes. But I will say, "That is why it's not my car", or "At least I'm not wasting my money the same way :D"

Also I am all about discussing kills. I stated that, if something seems amiss, discussion and friendly argument is all good, but not flaming. (I think I read that somewhere....."Respect Respect Respect"??? :stickoutt)