Sorry about the repost of this question here but not everyone here is following the FI forum I guess.

Do you change your driving style because of the Traction Control from Racelogic? For example in an Autocross situation do you floor it at the entry of a sweeper, or do you floor it at the exit of the sweeper, or do you just use it as insurance in case you accidentally overdrive the course? Does your driving style change with the use of the RLTC?

Anyone that has RLTC racing experience, please share your experience. Thanks! :)

No one is using Racelogic Traction Control here?

Aftermarket TC isn't allowed in any race class I know of. Besides, that's what your right foot is there for.

Now that explains it... Sorry about my ignorance and thanks for pointing it out to me.

No racing classes allow it? That is interesting since I have been considering getting it. Anyway, I know of one guy who auto-x's with it, however he only uses it in the rain. It probably could make you faster in the dry, but I hear it takes a while to program it just right since it has several parameters to manipulate.

There's a local guy who has it on his M Coupe
Neil is his BF.c login
http://www.mdorphin.com/

There's a local guy who has it on his M Coupe
Neil is his BF.c login
http://www.mdorphin.com/Yes, Neil is using it at the One Lap of America race and at Solo 2 events. Solo 2 allows Racelogic AFAIK. I just didn't want to go into the discussion of different sorts of racing.

I think we already have a member here labeled as cone packer :stickoutt . Anyway, I enjoy Solo 2 and I was just looking for some useful tips and tricks. Thanks. :)

No racing classes allow it? That is interesting since I have been considering getting it.

It very well may be in some of the newer auto-x classes. Hence the reason that I qualified my statement with "that I know of".

The biggest thing would be to figure out what %slip your tires perform best at. Then keep the setting there.

Some tires perform best at 5%, others at 10%, even up to 20% slip. Then, as they wear, this ideal %slip changes.

As to driving, you would need to get used to the back of the car slightly sideways and allow it to stay there.

Your particular car setup would determine if you floor it before the turn, during the turn, or on the straight.

As to driving, you would need to get used to the back of the car slightly sideways and allow it to stay there.

But I guess that pretty much applies whether you use electronic traction control or your right foot. The really great drivers are the ones who can feel the slip % a tire needs and balance the car there, even as the conditions and slip % changes.

It stikes me as being a lot easier to tune a TC system for a professional car like F1 because they are almost always running on "fresh" tires and have very precise data concerning the optimum slip %.

As to Formula 1, I would love to see the drivers drive without TC. The Traction/%slip curve for those tires must look like an inverted cone. Very high peak with no traction on either side.

Like you said, the hardest thing for drivers to learn is where that traction peak is and how to stay there without exceeding it. That is also why some tires are easier to drive and may give better lap times because there is more traction past the peak.

If you put an experienced driver on a set of high grip tires, he will almost always be faster than on a lower grip tire, but an inexperienced driver may be faster on the lower grip tire because of the way it behaves at and past the peak.

Just look back to old F1 days, with the huge full slicks, 1200hp+ and no electronic aids. Just pure driver skill...things were powersliding through corners all the time. Then Aero started being developed, and better tire compounds, suspension, etc. But the drivers who used to pilot those beasts...thats the traction control I want to learn :)

Get a Z-06 and put 225's in the back. You'll have all kinds of traction control to work on :D

Like you said, the hardest thing for drivers to learn is where that traction peak is and how to stay there without exceeding it. That is also why some tires are easier to drive and may give better lap times because there is more traction past the peak.

Is that what happend to the BFG GForce R-comps? Not the older Comp T/A R1's, but the last r-comp that was sort of a bust. I always liked them, but found them harder to drive than Hoosiers. I think I remember Brian Smith commenting that the tires actually generated a comparable if not higher level of grip, but the traction curve just made them harder to drive at their optimum than the other "fast" (Hooseir and Goodyear at the time) R-comps on the market.

Think BFG will even get back into the R-comp market?

Is that what happend to the BFG GForce R-comps? Not the older Comp T/A R1's, but the last r-comp that was sort of a bust. I always liked them, but found them harder to drive than Hoosiers. I think I remember Brian Smith commenting that the tires actually generated a comparable if not higher level of grip, but the traction curve just made them harder to drive at their optimum than the other "fast" (Hooseir and Goodyear at the time) R-comps on the market.

Think BFG will even get back into the R-comp market?

I don't know the history of the tire, but Brian is probably correct. Sometimes designers/test drivers look for highest peak and overlook how hard they are to drive at the peak.

I'll be on some old stock R1's at VIR end of April, so I'll give you my impression.

I like the direction that BFG is going in the market so far (KD's, KDW's, G-force Sport), and the only thing missing from their lineup is a R-Compound, so who knows.

Cool. Hell, I think I probably have some old G-Force R1's in M3 sizes laying around somewhere. Brian helped us get some when they were being taken off the market. I know we have at least one pair of huge 335's for the rear of our old Mustang. :)

some people are using race logic in street mod but personaly id rather use my foot where it most likely helps the most is in the rain. as for how to drive it id imange you have to drive it like you normaly do, if you have your foot to the floor in the middle of the turn with and the traction control sees grip then its 100% power down to the ground and that cant be good