http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=179484954&dealer_id=56069066&car_year=2001&make=BMW&distance=300&lang=en&max_price=&model=M3&end_year=2006&min_price=&certified=&address=84047&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=1981&isp=y&cardist=10#vdptop

http://images.autotrader.com/images/2005/3/14/179/484/1326223017.179484954.IM1.06.565x421_A.316x421.jpg

this one is for sale in West Valley city. word.

http://www.gviautoworx.com./gvi_autosales.html

http://www.gviautoworx.com./stuff/big_m33.jpg

I would sell a smurff too... :D

I swear that first one is Adrian's. I wonder why he is selling it already.

That Silver M3 is a beaut. I'll pass on the Smurfmobile.

Thanks Matt, just what I needed :)

this one is for sale in West Valley city. word.




Don't do it. More than likely it's stolen.

:eek:

SMGIIOVERYOU!

I need one. NOW!

ed: I need this but no sunroof for you... :(

http://www.roadfly.org/bmw/classifieds/cars/detview.php?view=29992&sortby=&dir=

good miles and price.

also good and again no sunroof! :(

http://www.roadfly.org/bmw/classifieds/cars/detview.php?view=29927&sortby=&dir=

Here's a local one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6131&item=4536338194&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

This one I could do. No SMG too!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6131&item=4535883766&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

One last one for you 3 series freaks:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6131&item=4536507434&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

SMGIIOVERYOU!

I need one. NOW!

ed: I need this but no sunroof for you... :(



Why no sunroof?

Nice Johnny, I use to work with the sales manager at Jody Wilkinson, I think i'll look at that one...

BUT, Imola with 19" turned me on ;)

Why no sunroof?

strucural stability, but I likes the wind in my hair and the sun on my face! :)

that last one is such a hot color combo.

One last one for you 3 series freaks:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6131&item=4536507434&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Is it just me, or is that red interior extremely bright?

Chas

it's bright, but i love it. :dunno

half the tool kit was missing though.

Here's a local one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6131&item=4536338194&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Stuns me that someone would buy an new M3 but 5000 miles on it about a year, and then get ride of it.

Seeing as it is at an Acura dealer ... could it have been a trade in? On what?

[QUOTE=chmdrm]Stuns me that someone would buy an new M3 but 5000 miles on it about a year, and then get ride of it.
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Some guys will take extreme measures to preserve their marriage.

Chas

Stuns me that someone would buy an new M3 but 5000 miles on it about a year, and then get ride of it.

Seeing as it is at an Acura dealer ... could it have been a trade in? On what?

might be someone who lost there job, or just couldn't justify the payment and didn't think it through before they signed.

Has anyone driven one of these with the SMG? Just wondering what it's like.

Chas

Go to the e46 M3 forum and search on it, there are a billion reviews.

Or come out and play. Scott's is SMG.

and I still think it is weird to see on 04 with 5k miles at an Acura dealer. I mean that is hardly broken in.

Has anyone driven one of these with the SMG? Just wondering what it's like.

Chas

I drove a few at the Susan Kommen Breast Cancer drive at BMW of M. Not impressed with them. Though we have discussed this here a few times before, I just feel it lacks that true sports car feel. The feeling of man (or woman of course) being in touch with machine.

SMG is the future.

New M5, M6 and I assume E90 M3 will be SMG only.

SMG is the future.

New M5, M6 and I assume E90 M3 will be SMG only.

All the more reason I value the existing then.

And you'd not trade your 5er for a V10 SMG M5?

And you'd not trade your 5er for a V10 SMG M5?

SMG V10 = 0-60 4.2 sec(i think it was) = $80-90K

E39 M5 = 0-60 4.7 = $38-50K

Nope. I would be happy snappy with le' e39 M5. Not to mention it's not Bangled.

when is the v10 m5 actually going to be here?

I'm in the process of talking my mom into buying one and then acquiring it from her in a few years

when is the v10 m5 actually going to be here?

I'm in the process of talking my mom into buying one and then acquiring it from her in a few years


I've heard JUNE this year.

M5 and M6 up on some countries web sites already.

it's FUCKING on

outrageously fast sedans4lyfe

It's all about being able to downshift entering a corner without taking your hands off of the wheel. Geoff is right SMG is what sports cars will all be like in the future. I want to test drive a new Audi TT with DSG, it is supposed to have really quick shifts.

And sunroofs are gay. I never use mine so it just makes my car heavier.

It's all about being able to downshift entering a corner without taking your hands off of the wheel. Geoff is right SMG is what sports cars will all be like in the future. I want to test drive a new Audi TT with DSG, it is supposed to have really quick shifts.

My breif ride with Scott proved the SMG was as smooth as an auto in traffic, and faster then a stick at WOT. I need one.

I had a friend drive DSG and said it rocked but is it an auto like like a step or tiptronic or is it a computer controlled clutch like SMG?

And sunroofs are gay. I never use mine so it just makes my car heavier.

And makes for less headroom for wearing a helmet.

I drove a few at the Susan Kommen Breast Cancer drive at BMW of M. Not impressed with them. Though we have discussed this here a few times before, I just feel it lacks that true sports car feel. The feeling of man (or woman of course) being in touch with machine.


:spank

what did I tell you earlier!!!!

the SMG of the 6er or 5er is NOTHING like the SMG in the M3....

you need to drive an M3 with one, and drive it well. You will see, it does a better job than you can, and its far more functional.

:spank

what did I tell you earlier!!!!

the SMG of the 6er or 5er is NOTHING like the SMG in the M3....

you need to drive an M3 with one, and drive it well. You will see, it does a better job than you can, and its far more functional.

shouldnt you be in centerville right now?... waiting for the doors to open? :spank

:embarrasm

shouldnt you be in centerville right now?... waiting for the doors to open? :spank
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:embarrasm

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What ever is in Centerville, DO IT! (btw, is the general back and does she know? shhhh)

She doesnt know. She is still gone

:paranoid:

99 estoril/black with 64k....

She doesnt know. She is still gone

:paranoid:

99 estoril/black with 64k....

:paranoid: :devillook

Do it.

The general will never notice.

Its just Matt's car I promise. :devillook

Its just Matt's car I promise. :devillook


:rofl

It will work for long enough for the new car to become a fixture and then you're set! :D

My breif ride with Scott proved the SMG was as smooth as an auto in traffic, and faster then a stick at WOT. I need one.

I had a friend drive DSG and said it rocked but is it an auto like like a step or tiptronic or is it a computer controlled clutch like SMG?



From what I have read DSG is a bit better than SMG.

http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/uploads/01_014.jpeg


At a basic level DSG is a dual-clutch electronically controlled transmission that can be shifted manually via the shift lever or paddles on the steering wheel or it can be dumped into drive and used like an automatic - there is no clutch pedal. DSG utilizes 2 clutches, 2 main input shafts and 2 sets of gears - 1st, 3rd, 5th and Reverse on one shaft and 2nd, 4th, and 6th on the other. Because this is a wet system, there is an oil coiler and oil filter attached to the transmission.

DSG is completely different from BMW's SMG and Ferrari's F1 system in that it has two clutches instead of one. This means that DSG can fire off an upshift in .008 seconds whereas BMW's SMG takes .8 seconds to make the same shift.

Here's how it works (try to stay with us here): At a stop, the transmission drops into neutral. When you start to lift your foot off the brake, the clutch connected to input shaft 1 will smoothly engage moving the car forward much like a manual transmission except electronically and automatically. Input shaft 1 is now controlling first gear providing power to the wheels. While input shaft 1 is in first, input shaft two has selected 2nd gear in anticipation of the next upshift. When the transmission requests 2nd gear (either via the paddles, gate or automatically) clutch one opens up and clutch two engages in as quickly as .008 seconds. There is a certain amount of slippage in the clutches to ensure a smooth transition from gear to gear. In the event of a downshift, the transmission will request a throttle blip from the engine ECU to match revs and then shift down a gear - this happens in as quick as .6 seconds including the throttle matching. The transmission can even shift from 6th to 2nd gear without having to sequentially run down through every gear. In this case, DSG will switch input shafts from 6th gear going to 5th temporarily on input shaft 2 and then into 2nd with input shaft 1 while blipping the throttle to match revs - all in less than .9 seconds.

You can read the rest of the article Here (http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publish/article_317.shtml)

Very cool.

My understanding of SMG is that it is a dual plate clutch but this seems to be 2 seperate clutches. I'm assuming one is just a ring around the other?

SMG only has one clutch. DSG has two.

She doesnt know. She is still gone

:paranoid:

99 estoril/black with 64k....

It's now 1603 hours. Inquiring minds wish to know Ben. Done or nay? Pics, rides, and chat. Send your carrier pigeon and let us know.

:conf :wave :conf

I have drive M3 with SMG, and rode with a pro driver on a track in his M3 with SMG. After I rode with him and saw what you can really do with a Sequential gear box i feel in love. On the same track there was a hard corner I would have to brake hard in my car down shift to third trail brake into the corner. But at the apex I needed to be in 2nd gear but since I was in the turn it was to hard to make the down shift and keep the car stable enough to hold it at speed.
When I rode with him it was the same but with his SMG he got to down shift perfectly in the corner and would pull out of it SOOOO much harder it was amazing. After that point I have loved it. I plan on buying one when I move back to Utah. ( hopefullay with the new comp. package)

It's now 1603 hours. Inquiring minds wish to know Ben. Done or nay? Pics, rides, and chat. Send your carrier pigeon and let us know.

no sir. its a consignment car and they want 22900 firm

:rolleyes

he told me 22,400 but I know Al would go lower and try and talk to the owner.

your right though he won't go 19k, even if thats what it's worth.

no sir. its a consignment car and they want 22900 firm

:rolleyes


Holy batsmoke Robin. They be up in the nights. Cameron, aren't you affiliated to Rover up there somehow? Help da brotha out!

I tried but it's consignment though, there is no way they'll go down to 19k

I tried but it's consignment though, there is no way they'll go down to 19k

Ya know, I went there and looked and talked about a M5 they had and they gave me the same song. Consignment. I can't help but to think this is a ploy. I say ask them to speak to the owner of the car.

Ive moved on

strucural stability, but I likes the wind in my hair and the sun on my face! :)

that last one is such a hot color combo.

Unfortunately, I have to have a sunroof to keep my hair from getting matted down.

Chas

:eyecrazy

[paris hilton] thats hot [//paris hilton]

so hot, when are you going to come to some meets Chas?

so hot, when are you going to come to some meets Chas?


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:wave

I'm hoping to invite you guys (& Gals) over for breakfast in April on the day of the SL marathon. It goes right by my house, and it's fun to cheer on the runners as they go by. I had a vision of about 10 BMW's parked on the street to inspire the runners. I've got a trial that starts two days after that, so everything will depend on how prepared I am.

This Sat I'm gone for Spring Break. Adios.

Chas

Or come out and play. Scott's is SMG.

and I still think it is weird to see on 04 with 5k miles at an Acura dealer. I mean that is hardly broken in.

Rex Gines is the sales manager at Jody Wilkonson and he always carries a few high end audi and bimmers, way good guy too. :)

I'm hoping to invite you guys (& Gals) over for breakfast in April on the day of the SL marathon. It goes right by my house, and it's fun to cheer on the runners as they go by. I had a vision of about 10 BMW's parked on the street to inspire the runners. I've got a trial that starts two days after that, so everything will depend on how prepared I am.

This Sat I'm gone for Spring Break. Adios.

Chas

I wish I could go on spring break :(

Oh well, have fun Chas :wave

I'm hoping to invite you guys (& Gals) over for breakfast in April on the day of the SL marathon. It goes right by my house, and it's fun to cheer on the runners as they go by. I had a vision of about 10 BMW's parked on the street to inspire the runners. I've got a trial that starts two days after that, so everything will depend on how prepared I am.

This Sat I'm gone for Spring Break. Adios.

Chas

Nice, sounds fun on the b-fast gig.

Where's spring break taking you? Im pondering a Moab jaunt.

Puerto Vallarta. I'm cashing in a ton of Marriott points.

I was in Moab last weekend for the 1/2 marathon. It was beautiful. Enjoy.

Chas

Puerto Vallarta. I'm cashing in a ton of Marriott points.

I was in Moab last weekend for the 1/2 marathon. It was beautiful. Enjoy.

Chas


That's when we were there too. (my only running was to the donut shop though).

Stay clear of any "fish stew" in PV. A friend just returned after a extremely short trip there. He was hospitalized for Ecoli. :eek:

Have fun!

Puerto Vallarta is fun... but spring break was last week.

From what I have read DSG is a bit better than SMG.

http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/uploads/01_014.jpeg




You can read the rest of the article Here (http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publish/article_317.shtml)
How much more does this weigh? SMG is already heavy enough.

It doesn't look very neat either. Just a plain Jane auto.

I looks like a regular tip, but it's not. The sport setting keeps your RPM above 4k. I'm sure it weighs quite a bit.

bump :devillook

poast as many pics of Jet as you have! quick.

Ive exceeded my alotted disk space

:(

:lol Did you really? Hahahah... SNAP!