View Full Version : Texas Petition - Front Plate removal - Sign it!
Robert 02-22-2005, 07:17 AM http://www.petitiononline.com/txplate/petition.html
We all want to get rid of our front license plates. They are worthless.
http://www.petitiononline.com/txplate/petition.html
Please sign it. There is already over 10,000 signatures.
MaloventEvil 02-22-2005, 07:31 AM these stupid online petitions dont do crap
Robert 02-22-2005, 07:33 AM Ya, I know. :(
Doesn't hurt to try. :)
texasbimmer 02-22-2005, 10:30 AM Let me get this straight, you are asking the State to allow us to remove the front license plates that are used by DPS to right MORE tickets with the laser guns making MORE money for the State? Hmmm .. They might go for it.
Tickets are big money for DPS, however DPS also uses every excuse in the book to pull someone over. Once on the side of the road, they can/will run for warrants, drug checks, etc, etc. And the successful hit rate is amazing! My old neighbor was DPS, and he says not a day goes by where at least one normal traffic stop doesn't results in an arrest. cha-ching! Job Security!
Oh wait, the State also sells those plates to us, making more money. Hmm..
Okay (stepping down from soap box again State logic), what is the logical reason for removing the plates? While I am for it, it is like talking to my kids. They WANT to remove it, but they certainly do not NEED to remove it. There are lots of reason, most of which are BS, to have it, but very few to remove it.
When is the last time a LP can flying off during a wreck and killed a bus full of nuns? When is the last time a front LP caused any trouble in public?
Like I said, I do not agree with why we have them, I would honestly rather our small-minded law officials concentrate (they need all the help they can get) on laws and changes that are even remotely useful into making this place a safer place.
Okay - i feel better now. Sorry had to get it out.
Matt
Robert 02-22-2005, 10:53 AM lol
I would just love to get rid of that front plate..
I saw this petition on bavarianspeed.com so I posted it here. LOL that stuff on the petition is pretty much poop. I just want to remove my front plate, looks like poop.
EIAlfonso 02-22-2005, 11:30 AM these stupid online petitions dont do crap
You're wrong!!
Just think of how many e-mails they've procured with this petition and now they can go out and sell them, many times over, and make a few hundred and or maybe a few thousands of dollars
America the land of oppurtunity :buttrock
hinzm3 02-22-2005, 11:54 AM Or you can be like most people and just not run one....
luckytopher 02-22-2005, 12:44 PM there are no reasonable safety/etc reasons to keep it on there
but i didnt need a petition for front plate removal.. i just needed the $10 part and said "F it" and took it off myself :)
if i get a ticket, i'll put the other one back on, go to court, show a pic, get it thrown out...
it's just a looking good tax ;)
texasbimmer 02-22-2005, 01:07 PM my buddy got tagged by DPS for not having a front LP on his vette. It cost him $250 .. even after he put i back on. The judge said it was not like inspection in that you can't just add it, pay a paperwork fee and go away. He had to pay the money, even after TRYING to explain that the dealership never provided him with a front LP.
oh well. As for me, I am looking into the Lp covers. This is the one that fades the letters when seen from an angle, like a tollbooth camera :redspot . It also is SUPPOSED to block laser hits by redirecting the beam elsewhere :buttrock . Users of the Lasers are trained to aim at a flat surface to get a good return signal. On most new cars the only flat surface is the LP, which is what DPs is trained to aim at.
luckytopher 02-22-2005, 01:13 PM my buddy got tagged by DPS for not having a front LP on his vette. It cost him $250 .. even after he put i back on. The judge said it was not like inspection in that you can't just add it, pay a paperwork fee and go away. He had to pay the money, even after TRYING to explain that the dealership never provided him with a front LP.
oh well. As for me, I am looking into the Lp covers. This is the one that fades the letters when seen from an angle, like a tollbooth camera :redspot . It also is SUPPOSED to block laser hits by redirecting the beam elsewhere :buttrock . Users of the Lasers are trained to aim at a flat surface to get a good return signal. On most new cars the only flat surface is the LP, which is what DPs is trained to aim at.
this is one of those 'buddy' stories that gets morphed...
i am almost positive that the front plate fine is $110... that is a flat amount.. i got a no cats ticket from DPS and it was $135 i believe... the front plate isn't more ;) ... but it is just an equipment issue (which doesn't affect insurance)... and some judges throw it out if you 'correct it'.. some don't.. it's not a guarantee...
fyi the cover for the LP is illegal in texas as of last year... any cover is illegal, even a clear one
EIAlfonso 02-22-2005, 01:39 PM I received a citation last month in Plano 76 in a 60 (Central Expressway), about $160 fro speeding and I also received a ticket for the no Teaxs Drivers license (Colorado Lic) that was about $150.
He also stated, "Did you know you're supposed to have a front plate" I told him that's the way it came when I bought it. He probably felt my wallet was hurting enough and didn't write me up for the front plate.
With the deffered disposition it came out to over $350 in citations :eek:
Plano Police = cash cow. Nice guy though, hard to spot those motorbikes.
I got a ticket for it and signed the fucking petition. It will never be changed. It is one of those gay ass laws like you can eat peanuts in church or something....
Greg S 02-22-2005, 02:50 PM 10472
ParadigmGuy 02-22-2005, 10:03 PM these stupid online petitions dont do crap
Actually they helped to get the former Governor of California (Gray Davis) out of office.
m3pastu 02-22-2005, 10:11 PM Or you can be like most people and just not run one....
:angel...hehehehe
uuc328 02-22-2005, 10:42 PM 10482
texasbimmer 02-22-2005, 11:03 PM this is one of those 'buddy' stories that gets morphed...
i am almost positive that the front plate fine is $110... that is a flat amount.. i got a no cats ticket from DPS and it was $135 i believe... the front plate isn't more ;) ... but it is just an equipment issue (which doesn't affect insurance)... and some judges throw it out if you 'correct it'.. some don't.. it's not a guarantee...
fyi the cover for the LP is illegal in texas as of last year... any cover is illegal, even a clear one
You are correct. I called my friend tonight to find out the cost. He paid $250, but only $150 was for the LP. He apparently had a "few other issues" that cost the extra $100. Oops!
TrunkImpaired 02-22-2005, 11:41 PM I've thought about getting a euro looking plate with my license plate numbers on it. That way it looks cool and is still SORTA legal
m3pastu 02-22-2005, 11:45 PM same here
Iron Chef 02-22-2005, 11:48 PM Plano Police = cash cow. Nice guy though, hard to spot those motorbikes.
That's all the Plano police do, traffic citations. I'm not even going to bother signing the petition cus it's not going to work.
fast1 02-23-2005, 01:13 AM Heres what you do. You get personalized plates that read 8BB 88B :) It confuses the shit out of the police and will get you pulled at least twice a day.
Blke36 02-23-2005, 12:32 PM Oh wait, the State also sells those plates to us, making more money. Hmm..
If the State sez the plate fee is, say, $50 for two, who's to say it won't remain $50 for 1? The State would save approximately $4.84M/yr if they dropped front plates: "Each year we issue 8 million new plates around the state of Texas and our per-plate cost is $1.21."
Blke36 02-23-2005, 12:37 PM Found some more interesting reading: "Your other comment on do we envision seeing that in the future, yes, in theory we do, we see a chip either in a registration sticker or on a license plate, but there's so many political and privacy and the Big Brother issues that there's not another state in the nation at this time planning to do that. We've been at a number of meetings with the Turnpike Authority Division and other entities around the country that see that. For example, if in Texas in ten years we have 2 million people that go through tolls, we would want to or need to do something like that rather than having a separate transponder, give them the option of having it on the license plate or on the windshield registration sticker or a safety inspection sticker, and I believe one of the commissioners has a prototype in their pocket right now. But that technology is possible, it just would require fairly significant additional cost." :(
DallasE46 02-27-2005, 06:15 AM I signed it, but it won't do any good. Just another revenue producer in MANY ways. I have not run one on many vehicles and just kept it under my seat and put it in the windshield when I came close a few times. The officer didn't seem to know the exact law and just let me go out of fustration I imagine.
SecretAznSauce 02-27-2005, 06:16 AM i'm a rebel. see any front plates below?
stuntride 02-27-2005, 06:44 AM I've thought about getting a euro looking plate with my license plate numbers on it. That way it looks cool and is still SORTA legal
when u register your car you can order euro plates, extra $40 i believe and its all legal
SecretAznSauce 02-27-2005, 06:47 AM they don't have any, i asked when i registered the vert friday
http://www.dot.state.tx.us/vtr/spplates/allplates.htm#misc
uberKRAUT 03-28-2005, 02:44 AM these stupid online petitions dont do crap
Ya you have to march on Austin....uh over license plates! :biglaughb
bmwdvr956 04-08-2005, 02:17 PM I got a 300 dollar ticket for no front lp and brake light out. they look ugly on bimmers.
Pepe240sx 04-08-2005, 02:19 PM I got a 300 dollar ticket for no front lp and brake light out. they look ugly on bimmers.
Where in TX? I hope it's not Lewisville.
bmwdvr956 04-08-2005, 02:31 PM I got it in webb county by a sheriff. but look at my car now. i will get another if i have to. :buttrock
weaksauce 04-08-2005, 02:33 PM Just let it go guys. If you like the way it looks leave it off. You have to pay to play.
luckytopher 04-08-2005, 03:08 PM Just let it go guys. If you like the way it looks leave it off. You have to pay to play.
yep..
no plate ticket = "look good tax"
no cats ticket = "sound good tax"
Pepe240sx 04-11-2005, 11:47 AM yep..
no plate ticket = "look good tax"
no cats ticket = "sound good tax"
:lol Well said.
SecretAznSauce 04-11-2005, 12:15 PM :lol Well said.
dont you have a jap board to admin to something like that?
Pepe240sx 04-11-2005, 01:03 PM dont you have a jap board to admin to something like that?
You shouldn't be using the word Jap like that :nono
:D ;)
SecretAznSauce 04-11-2005, 01:07 PM You shouldn't be using the word Jap like that :nono
:D ;)
will there be places to post p0rn?
luckytopher 04-11-2005, 01:08 PM You shouldn't be using the word Jap like that :nono
:D ;)
okay, don't you have a slow, old, outdated, shrinkwrapped, birdshitstained forum to admin?
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Pepe240sx 04-11-2005, 01:12 PM will there be places to post p0rn?
I dont know if we will do that though. Our emphasis is to be a car forum, not a porn forum.
Pepe240sx 04-11-2005, 01:13 PM okay, don't you have a slow, old, outdated, shrinkwrapped, birdshitstained forum to admin?
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You are so gonna get owned hairdresser boy :redspot
luckytopher 04-11-2005, 01:19 PM You are so gonna get owned hairdresser boy :redspot
not while i have the wetsanding/buffing skills i won't
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Pepe240sx 04-11-2005, 01:20 PM Damn :(
I don't have a front plate... :)
I dont even run back plates :)
95beema 04-13-2005, 10:28 AM My Air Force base is saying I have to have a front plate by the end of the week or I cannot come through the gate. I have it laying up on my dash right now and I take it down when I leave. What a crock. I hate front plates. The gate gaurds are so gay you would think they are real cops or something.
SecretAznSauce 04-13-2005, 10:33 AM My Air Force base is saying I have to have a front plate by the end of the week or I cannot come through the gate. I have it laying up on my dash right now and I take it down when I leave. What a crock. I hate front plates. The gate gaurds are so gay you would think they are real cops or something.
rent a cop = milatary rejects
everytime I go inside lockheed martin, they always search our van with a glance and expect to really find something
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I just had to do that....
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